What wires does a 32x need? Are they easy to get?

[Kikoskia]

There is a cheap looking 32x going on eBay and I was thinking of trying to get it. The only problem is, it doesn't seem to have any wires.

What wires would it need to work? Are they easy to get?

[Obviously]

The AC Adaptor, and the wire that connects the 32X to the Genesis. Both are pretty difficult to find lose without a 32X. I suggest you just get a 32X that comes with the wires, you won't pay much more.

[Kikoskia]

Full 32x consoles in England cost an absolute fortune. No 32x I see in england goes for less then £40 - That's about $70 in american money.

EDIT: Is the wire that you need called an AV In cable? And is the other wire you need just an AC adapter like the ones a normal megadrive has to get power?

[Obviously]

I'm not sure if the adaptor for the Megadrive and the 32X is identical and I don't have my Genesis here with me to test that right now but I do know that the cable that connects the the 32X with the Megadrive isn't a normal AV cable and a unique pin layout.

[Kikoskia]

Hmmm. Thanks. I shall not bid on the item I saw then. I shall just have to save up some money and buy the whole thing at once. :)

[David J.]

It's the same, I think you could build one of the cables -- forgot which one.

Since 32X's are so expensive there, I personally wouldn't bother if I lived in Europe, but that's your call.

[Kikoskia]

Yeah, the console itself is costly, but the games are just like any normal megadrive game. The basis on that is that so few people have a 32x that people find it hard to sell the games.

[David J.]

OK, I am curious, I take it that PAL 32X games are not that expensive, but the console itself is?

[Kikoskia]

Oh yes. There are barely ever any 32x's available anywhere. You cannto find them in stores for love nor money and on the net they go for small fortunes.

[Obviously]

I guess people just want them for the obscure, "Look I have a 32X!" thing. I'd have never payed over ten bucks for one. I still don't think I would've bought it but the guy at the flea market through in NBA Jam TE.

[Kikoskia]

Heh, well they aren't that easy to get ahold of over here. If I got one, I would have my pick of the games I wanted cheap, barring the really costly ones like knuckles chaotix and the assorted ones people pay through their nose for.

[Cataulin]

so you really need that cable that connects the genny and 32x?

[Genesis Knight]

Uh...yes. That's sort of important.

[Cataulin]

damn

I was wondering why the thing would only show the background and nothing else. I thought it was broken. :confused:

[Joe Redifer]

If you have an original model Genesis/Megadrive you'll ALSO need the short adaptor cable that converts the Genesis RGB pin output to the newer Genesis 2 style pin out put so the RGB video from the Genesis can go in to the 32X (composite video is not carried into the 32X). I'll post pics of the cables in a short bit.

[Joe Redifer]

OK here is what wires you need for each model (in addition to the AC Adaptor, of course):


http://pixelcraze.film-tech.net/crap/32x1.jpg
Composite Video Cable - Genesis 2 Style - Mono
This outputs video directly from your 32X to your TV, obviously.
Needed for: Genesis/Mega Drive model 1. You may already have one that came with your Genesis 2 or CDX. The stereo version of this cable will work with the Genesis 2 and CDX, but not with the Genesis 1 as it will not transmit sound at all. To get stereo sound from your Genesis 1, run a wire from the headphone jack to your high-powered stereo.


http://pixelcraze.film-tech.net/crap/32x2.jpg
Male to male interconnect cable - Genesis 2 style
This sends Genesis RGB video into the 32X for processing.
Needed for: All makes and models of the Genesis (except Genesis 3, Nomad and other units that can't use a 32X, of course. And probably LaserActive and other oddball units).


http://pixelcraze.film-tech.net/crap/32x3.jpg
Male Din-8 to female mini-Din converter AKA Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 style
This enables your Genesis one to use Genesis 2 style video cables (audio will not transfer if you use a Genesis 2 stereo cable).
Needed for: Genesis 1 only. I have no idea about Wondermega and stuff like that.

[Cataulin]

Okay I get you, but where can I get these cables from? Ive searched everywhere and I cannot find them. its horrible I tell you, as I really wanna try the games I got along with the 32x I got(along with a gen1 and sega cd gen1). Also can I get stereo sound from teh sega cd if Im using the 32x?

[Joe Redifer]

The problem is that most people on the planet are morons and as a result they lose the cables that came with their unit. They probably bought the unit and a few games, played it for a bit, didn't like it and disconnected it forever. When they dug it out to sell on eBay, they had no clue that the cables needed to be included or no clue where they went. Other people who owned the Genesis 2 probably threw away their Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 adaptor since they didn't need it. Other 32X units didn't even come with the adaptor since they figured that nobody owned Genesis 1's.

[Cataulin]

The problem is that most people on the planet are morons and as a result they lose the cables that came with their unit. They probably bought the unit and a few games, played it for a bit, didn't like it and disconnected it forever. When they dug it out to sell on eBay, they had no clue that the cables needed to be included or no clue where they went. Other people who owned the Genesis 2 probably threw away their Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 adaptor since they didn't need it. Other 32X units didn't even come with the adaptor since they figured that nobody owned Genesis 1's.


(I got all the stuff mentioned for free)

Anyways so what your basicly saying is that Im shit outta luck on finding those 2 cords? what about getting stereo sound from the sega CD when using teh 32x?

[Joe Redifer]

When hooked up to a Genesis 1, the 32X has no impact on the way you'd normally hook up the sound. Hook up the sound the same way from your Sega CD as you would would without a 32X.

[Cataulin]

OK here is what wires you need for each model (in addition to the AC Adaptor, of course):

http://pixelcraze.film-tech.net/crap/32x2.jpg
Male to male interconnect cable - Genesis 2 style
This sends Genesis RGB video into the 32X for processing.
Needed for: All makes and models of the Genesis (except Genesis 3, Nomad and other units that can't use a 32X, of course. And probably LaserActive and other oddball units).


http://pixelcraze.film-tech.net/crap/32x3.jpg
Male Din-8 to female mini-Din converter AKA Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 style
This enables your Genesis one to use Genesis 2 style video cables (audio will not transfer if you use a Genesis 2 stereo cable).
Needed for: Genesis 1 only. I have no idea about Wondermega and stuff like that.


Okay I was looking thru Segaparts.com and they have a this (http://secure-shopping-cart.com/serviceconcepts/cart/cart265.html) and this (http://secure-shopping-cart.com/serviceconcepts/cart/cart268.html) but with out pics I cant tell what it is. does anyone have the extra cords they have for sale?

[Joe Redifer]

I don't know why they continue to list the conversion cable (which is what you'd need for the Genesis 1) as they don't have it. Feel free to e-mail them and they will respond. I guess they are too lazy to take the listing down.

The other cable is just an AV cable I would think. Again, you can e-mail them (during the weekdays).

[Cataulin]

so Sega parts wouldnt have teh conversion cable. is there any other place that would have the conversion cable?

[Cataulin]

so I cant find the cables. Instead I to some wire I have and plugged it in hole to hole. and it works like it was brand new. My new problem is turing the system off. How do I go about doing this?

[Joe Redifer]

There is a power switch on the Genesis. There are two positions. One is "ON". The other is "OFF". In order to power the system down, move the power switch to the "OFF" position. [/patronizing mode]

[Cataulin]

There is a power switch on the Genesis. There are two positions. One is "ON". The other is "OFF". In order to power the system down, move the power switch to the "OFF" position. [/patronizing mode]


Oh I did not know that Captian obvious.:p


But really tho. It dosent power down on my sega gen2 Ill hit the button all day and it wont power down.

[Joe Redifer]

Please give me a clearer description. Did it power down BEFORE you did the thing with the wiring? If so, then it is a matter of removing one wire, the +5v wire. I actually had my Genesis powering up my Super Nintendo before (they were both hooked to the same RGB SCART switch) even though the SNES was powered off and wasn't even connected to a power supply. Check the pinout below:

http://www.gamesx.com/grafx/32xpin.jpg

Disconnect the wire that goes to pin 2 and you should be able to power down. What is happening is that since the 32X is constantly powered it is sending 5 volts through this wire to the Genesis, powering it up as well. Even if you disconnect the Genesis 2's AC adaptor, it wll power up as long as that wire is present and the 32X is plugged into the AC.

[Cataulin]

oh that did it. I wasnt aware of the 5v doing that as nothing showed up on google.

[Joe Redifer]

I found out by accident myself when my Genesis was powering up my SNES. I'm not surprised there isn't anything on Google. I'm glad it worked!

[Cataulin]

ANother question. How do I go about hooking the 32x to the series 1 gen?

[Joe Redifer]

You can do the same thing you did with the Genesis 2, only you'll need to match the RGB lines.

http://www.gamesx.com/grafx/gen1.jpg

Don't worry about the 5v line, the audio line or the composite line. All of your audio will come out of the Genesis headphone jack and none will come out of the 32X itself.

[Cataulin]

so then if I connect my sega cd too, then i just run the audio from there?

[Joe Redifer]

Yes, just as long as the Genesis has the mixing cable going from the headphone jack into the Sega CD. Otherwise it must all come out from the headphone jack.

[Cataulin]

Mixing jack?

Where do I get the cord for that?

Nvrmind I just found one.

Oddly enough I cant get the genesis to display a pic. maybe my wires are too small?

[Cataulin]

Just to bump this up.

How do I attach the ground wires? Do i just glue it to the metal shieldings?

[Joe Redifer]

The same way you did it going from your Genesis 2 to the 32X.

[Cataulin]

so then 4 is the ground for both of them?

[Joe Redifer]

Just match them like you did witht he Genesis 2. Should work the same, only the pin layout is different. That's it (besides the audio).

[Black_Tiger]

I figured that it would be best to ask this question in this thread.

The 32X enhances sound in games that utilize it's sound features right?

So is it possible to get stereo sound out of a 32X/Genesis 1 combo? If so, how do you set it up?

[evildragon]

Headphone jack.

The 32X pipes it's audio into the Genesis via the Cartridge connector. So, just grabbing stereo sound from the headphone jack works best.

[Black_Tiger]

Headphone jack.

The 32X pipes it's audio into the Genesis via the Cartridge connector. So, just grabbing stereo sound from the headphone jack works best.

Awesome, I was afraid that the audio might be carried through the cable that connects the two. :)

[evildragon]

nope, Sega was smart to make all mixing for all attachments internally on the genesis, so you were assured highest quality sound...

[Black_Tiger]

nope, Sega was smart to make all mixing for all attachments internally on the genesis, so you were assured highest quality sound...

Too bad they didn't design the 32X so that all video transfered internally and for the combo to use a single AC adaptor. ;)

[evildragon]

The video couldn't be done internally, the Genesis never had overlay circuitry, but did have a mixer.

[barugi]

Please give me a clearer description. Did it power down BEFORE you did the thing with the wiring? If so, then it is a matter of removing one wire, the +5v wire. I actually had my Genesis powering up my Super Nintendo before (they were both hooked to the same RGB SCART switch) even though the SNES was powered off and wasn't even connected to a power supply. Check the pinout below:

http://www.gamesx.com/grafx/32xpin.jpg

Disconnect the wire that goes to pin 2 and you should be able to power down. What is happening is that since the 32X is constantly powered it is sending 5 volts through this wire to the Genesis, powering it up as well. Even if you disconnect the Genesis 2's AC adaptor, it wll power up as long as that wire is present and the 32X is plugged into the AC.

I had the same problem, I made my own 9pin cable. the genesis wont shut down if 2 power adaptors are connected, but if I take the adaptor from the 32x it shuts off. Is it ok to leave it as is, using just one adaptor?

[Joe Redifer]

It probably would be best to remove pin #2 from one side and use both power adapters since that's what it was designed for and expects. I'm not an electrical engineer, though.

[evildragon]

The official 32X adapter does carry the 5v line. perhaps you wired it incorrectly? (maybe even have the in-out backwards on the 32X?)

i tried, if my 32X's out is connected to the genesis out, i do get that odd behavior too..

[Joe Redifer]

I don't get any odd behavior with my 32X.

[evildragon]

there are multiple revs of the 32X.. mines the very early one, one that can use the RF box (later ones can't i believe)..

trick is, don't power on the genesis, i didn't even try, incase that shorted something out..

[Joe Redifer]

mines the very early one, one that can use the RF box (later ones can't i believe)..
Mine is a launch day 32X. No RF port anywhere, though I'm sure the external Genesis 2 RF converter would work. I don't see why it wouldn't work with any model since it just takes the composite out + the sound and makes it into an RF signal.

[evildragon]

Mine is a launch day 32X. No RF port anywhere, though I'm sure the external Genesis 2 RF converter would work. I don't see why it wouldn't work with any model since it just takes the composite out + the sound and makes it into an RF signal.
that's what i meant, the RF box from the genny 2

the genny 2 RF box takes more than just comp video and comp audio.. it also takes that 5v line.. rumor is that some 32X's don't spit out the 5v required to power the RF boxes modulator.

perhaps some genny models have diodes on the 5v output, which can explain why some don't do this and some do. that would have been smart of sega to do anyway.

[Zebbe]

RF doesn't work on my 32X. I must have a later model. It has Japanese cartridge vagina lips.

[Iron Lizard]

RF doesn't work on my 32X. I must have a later model. It has Japanese cartridge vagina lips.
:rofl:

[The Sports Guy]

RF works on mine. i really need to get chaotix for mine.

[Joe Redifer]

I wish I could try out RF on my 32X. That would rock!

[evildragon]

I wish I could try out RF on my 32X. That would rock!
......not

[chriskrazy]

can anybody help or know where to get the wires for connecting the 32x to a megadrive 1 ?

[evildragon]

If you can get me the connectors, I can build them. :)

Thing is, finding the mini-9 pin male connector with the right orientation is hard.

[chriskrazy]

If you can get me the connectors, I can build them. :)

Thing is, finding the mini-9 pin male connector with the right orientation is hard.
ok can u give me as much detail of the connecters that i wud need to track them down ?

[evildragon]

http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/genesisav.htm

That's what they look like on the console it self. I need a connector (that obviously is mirrored horizontally, and male, so it fits) that matches those.

My cables include a stereo patch cable that goes into the headphone jack.

I'd recommend you trying eBay first for a real cable. You know, if you live too far away from me, this can take a LONG time to do. (i can build them within 2 days, but shipping...)

[chriskrazy]

http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/genesisav.htm

That's what they look like on the console it self. I need a connector (that obviously is mirrored horizontally, and male, so it fits) that matches those.

My cables include a stereo patch cable that goes into the headphone jack.

I'd recommend you trying eBay first for a real cable. You know, if you live too far away from me, this can take a LONG time to do. (i can build them within 2 days, but shipping...)
ive tried only complete units and they go for silly money over here

[evildragon]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sega-Genesis-32X-Connector-Cable-model-1_W0QQitemZ290163441865QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3642QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Someone pre-made one. I'd snatch it if I were you.

I'm in the US, don't know where you are.

That one doesn't require the "other half" of the passthrough cable either. It's the one you'll want.

[chriskrazy]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sega-Genesis-32X-Connector-Cable-model-1_W0QQitemZ290163441865QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3642QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Someone pre-made one. I'd snatch it if I were you.

I'm in the US, don't know where you are.

That one doesn't require the "other half" of the passthrough cable either. It's the one you'll want.
im uk wud that make a dif on the lead cuz mines a pal system

[evildragon]

no, pinouts remain the same..

just makes your your MegaDrive, and 32X are PAL..

[chriskrazy]

no, pinouts remain the same..

just makes your your MegaDrive, and 32X are PAL..
yes both are pal, ive message that ebay seller to see what the P&P is to uk, the other lead u need is fairly comman isnt it ?

[evildragon]

what other cable? the one to connect from the AV out to the TV? that is VERY common. just get a 32X, Genny 2, CDX cable, they are all the same.

[chriskrazy]

what other cable? the one to connect from the AV out to the TV? that is VERY common. just get a 32X, Genny 2, CDX cable, they are all the same.
yes thats the one i mean haha, im up with my megadrive sega cd an master system but only just lookin at the 32x but hey we all gott start somewhere

[chriskrazy]

this one do it ? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEGA-MEGADRIVE-2-MEGA-DRIVE-II-NOMAD-STEREO-AV-LEAD-NEW_W0QQitemZ160160954863QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3642QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[evildragon]

that's the cable..

but what are you now talking about a master system? That takes a different cable type (the one the Genny model 1 takes, but the ebay post i linked you to won't work with a master system, as it's only for connecting the genny 1 to the 32X directly)

[chriskrazy]

oh no i was just saying im not up on the 32x yet but im good with all the other stuff

[Joe Redifer]

I think someone is selling one of these cables in the Sonic's Bazaar part of this forum.

[evildragon]

oh no i was just saying im not up on the 32x yet but im good with all the other stuff
oh ok..

[chriskrazy]

yes messaged earlier on sonics bazaar but had no reply yet to it

[swoslover]

Anyone able to help me out with one of these cables I have a megadrive 1 but have the connector for the back of it but no cabls to connect to the 32x from this cable.

[AD2101]

Anyone able to help me out with one of these cables I have a megadrive 1 but have the connector for the back of it but no cabls to connect to the 32x from this cable.

People on here have tried to find other places but I think really Ebay is the only source unless someone here would be so kind as to sell you one. I was in the same bind I ended up shelling out 15 bucks for one on ebay. More than the 32x goes for and more than its worth but it just looks sooooo cool on top of my Sega CD and Genesis ;)

[swoslover]

People on here have tried to find other places but I think really Ebay is the only source unless someone here would be so kind as to sell you one. I was in the same bind I ended up shelling out 15 bucks for one on ebay. More than the 32x goes for and more than its worth but it just looks sooooo cool on top of my Sega CD and Genesis ;)

But even ebay doesnt appear to have any.

It seems they are impossible to get hold of.

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