Sega at E3 2006

[Melf]

Several games have been announced already, like another Monkey Ball title for the Rev...um, Wii. The only one that stands out to me so far is Sega Rally Revo, with is being done by some of the folks that made Collin Mcrae 2005.

Then there's always Phantasy Star Universe...

Anyone else anticipating some games?

[Obviously]

I'm hoping for a Sonic Rush 2 but it may be too soon. Also I'm hoping they talk about the Sonic game for the Wii since rumor has it they're making a different Sonic title than the one that's being developed for the X-Box 360 and Playstation 3. That has me a little worried although it seems like Sega is really pulling out all the stops in preperation for the hog's fifteenth anniverary.

Mostly I'm interested in what Nintendo has to say about the terribly named "Wii" and if Sony has anything worth noting. I know that Sony is supposedly unveiling the replacement for the PS3's "Batterang" controllers that everyone absolutely hated.

I'm expecting Nintendo to steal the show this year, everyone's curious about the Wii now and I'm convinced that unveiling the name so close to E3 was just a tactic to get everyone's attention. It also seems like everyone I talk to these days is dying to get their hands on a DS Lite and New Super Mario Brothers.

Microsoft has already shot off their big gun, Sony's been quiet, and Nintendo has already opened fire. It'll be an interesting E3 I think, and the first E3 I've actually be excited about for years.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

I'm definetly not interested in all the, "who will garner the most hype!?" and "who will be the best!?" D-bag diatribe that unfortunately pervades forums everywhere. I'm actually interested in the games and what they will be like. I don't mean to hate on anybody, but the concept of predicting game companies' financial success and judging their marketing acumen is disgusting and it makes that person no different than what the E entertainment channel does with movies. In otherwords, take the focus away from movies (games) and put it on the money and the popularity.

ANYWAY, the link to Sega's pre-E3 announcements can be found here: http://www.sega.com/e3/2006/index.php They are revealing a new game each day before E3.

[Joe Redifer]

I am not looking forward to Phantasy Star Universe. It has nothing to do with Phantasy Star and instead is just another edition of the Phantasy Star Online franchise, which sucks the big one. If Naka leaves Sega, then maybe Sega's games will improve.

Super Monkey Ball is one of my favorite games of all time, but I am not looking forward to controlling it with the Revolution's remote. Also the jump feature seems kind of lame. I'll have to "wait and see" on this one.

Sega Rally has always been super crappy with the exception of the godly saturn version. Sega Rally 2 = Crap. Sega Rally 2006 = crap. This new Sega Rally which isn't even programmed by Sega (and will be multiplatform) will most likely be crap. Never cared for Colin McCrea.

Sega sure isn't the company they used to be. I remember when they made games that were actually good. Hopefully I will be surprised and there will be some good games from them at the E3.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

You've got more than a spider living in that ass, Joe.

[Joe Redifer]

Seriously dude, what is your problem? Your comment doesn't even contribute to the thread.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

Seriously dude, what is your problem? Your comment doesn't even contribute to the thread.

I was telling you to chill. If you think I have a problem you should probably ask yourself whether or not it's worth it to launch into aggressive hate speeches against something as intrinsically judged and usually trivial as video games.

[Joe Redifer]

No hate speeches here. That's just the way I post. If you want to tell me to chill, then do so. No need to throw personal insults around at other forum members.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

No hate speeches here. That's just the way I post. If you want to tell me to chill, then do so. No need to throw personal insults around at other forum members.

I would be inclined to take advice from anyone had they not completely soiled their respect with the kind of garbage I've seen from you of late.

In that vein, I've never thrown an insult at you that you didn't deserve. So take heart for the future :)

[Joe Redifer]

Just one last comment:

If you think my posts are of an angry low-level mind or whatnot, why lower yourself by "stooping to the same level"? Let me embarrass myself with my crappy, arrogant, and dumbass posts. With you responding the way you do with personal insults and name calling, it brings you right down to the same level as you see me at if not even lower. Everyone else will then view us both as whiney babies.

[Melf]

Guys, insults are not needed at all, from anyone. Heated debate is always good, but there's no need to make it personal, especially over Sega games.

Now get back on topic!

[Obviously]

I wonder if we'll here anything from Yuji Naka and his camp who're producing the sequel to Nights according to the rumor mill.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

If you think my posts are of an angry low-level mind or whatnot, why lower yourself by "stooping to the same level"? Let me embarrass myself with my crappy, arrogant, and dumbass posts. With you responding the way you do with personal insults and name calling, it brings you right down to the same level as you see me at if not even lower. Everyone else will then view us both as whiney babies.

You've seen fit for yourself to make this personal. I can't say anything if you want it to be personal because it's not worth it.

[Kikoskia]

You never know, Sega could pull the ultimate trump card and reveal a new console.

...Of course, then I would have to wake up and face reality. :p

[j_factor]

I wonder if we'll here anything from Yuji Naka and his camp who're producing the sequel to Nights according to the rumor mill.

According to the rumor mill that we hear every single year since 1997, and which has been a load of crap every single year since 1997. I for one am not holding my breath for NiGHTS 2, as much as I would like one.

I'm hoping something from Digital Rex (ie Yu Suzuki) gets shown. Psy Phi may have been canned. Now it's been like, 3 years since Yu left AM2, and we've seen nothing from him.

Speaking of people we've seen nothing from, does Reiko Kodama even work at Sega anymore? She was the head of Overworks and then she disappeared. I was expecting her to be involved in Finny the Fish (because it was developed by Wow after the merger with Overworks), but she wasn't (her name didn't appear in the credits anyway).

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

I'm hoping something from Digital Rex (ie Yu Suzuki) gets shown. Psy Phi may have been canned. Now it's been like, 3 years since Yu left AM2, and we've seen nothing from him.


I can't believe that. :confused:

[David J.]

You never know, Sega could pull the ultimate trump card and reveal a new console.

...Of course, then I would have to wake up and face reality. :p

Kamen Rider Blade?

[j_factor]

I can't believe that. :confused:

Well it was test marketed, and I guess it tested badly because it's still not been released.

[mish]

Joe,


Sega doesn't make good games anymore?

Condemned
Chrome Hounds
Full Auto
Spartan: Total Warrior
Medieval: Total War
SUPER MONKEY BALL WHOOOO!!!
Feel the Magic
Rub Rabbits

Sega doesn't make good games anymore?

[janus]

How many of those did Sega actually make?

More to the point, which are the good games on that list?

[GeckoYamori]

Rub Rabbits

Wait... Isn't that the masturbation game from Ubisoft?

[janus]

Oh man please tell me you're kidding.

I think the Wii could be the home of hentai though. Just imagine all the thrusting!

[GeckoYamori]

I shit you not. They were working on some DS game which involved petting and stroking rabbits so they could reach the 'magical happy place' in the sky. The designer said the point of the game was to teach women about the wonders of touching yourself.

[janus]

Ubisoft should hurry up and release another Splinter Cell game before I lose all respect for them.

[j_factor]

Joe,


Sega doesn't make good games anymore?

Condemned
Chrome Hounds
Full Auto
Spartan: Total Warrior
Medieval: Total War
SUPER MONKEY BALL WHOOOO!!!
Feel the Magic
Rub Rabbits

Sega doesn't make good games anymore?

Not to mention Out Run, Sonic Rush, The Tower SP... And I can't wait for Yakuza, Virtua Tennis 3, Virtua Fighter 5, and the new Monkey Balls.

[mish]

More to the point, which are the good games on that list?

Have you played any of those games???

How can you argue that award-winning games aren't even 'good?'

If you liked Snatcher, there's literally no way you can dislike Condemned.

[Joe Redifer]

The new Monkeyballs suck ass. The only good ones are SMB 1 and 2 on the Gamecube. Deluxe is awful. The GBA one is OK, the DS one is pretty bad. Dunno about the upcoming one, we'll have to wait and see. I really didn't like Sonic Rush at all. I felt like it was made for the Tony Hawk crowd or something. There are way too many bottomless pits in that game. And... tricks?

A lot of the games you guys mention aren't even out yet, but you assume they are good. A lot of them are not programmed by Sega and therefore they do not count as "Sega". A lot of the Xbox360 games mentioned seem like total snooze-fests to me. I have yet to see an Xbox360 game that really makes me want the console, though that Ghost Recon game looks pretty cool. Feel the Magic is pretty cool as are a lot of older Sega games from this Generation like Outrun 2 and F-Zero GX. I'm talking here and now. Sega is still a shadow of its former self.

[David J.]

Hmm.. now I'm just curious, but wasn't SMB Deluxe just a compltation of part 1 and 2?

I don't keep up with next-gen and modern gaming. I do however, want to see Sega teamup with Monolith again and make a sequel to Shogo. Screw FEAR and Condemmed.

[Joe Redifer]

Hmm.. now I'm just curious, but wasn't SMB Deluxe just a compltation of part 1 and 2?
Glad you asked! Yes, it is a compilation of 1 and 2 with a few new levels as well. The Super Monkeyball 1 levels are even enhanced with 16:9 widescreen and 480p which the first game did not feature. How could this possibly be bad? Well the game controls horribly. There is a huge dead spot in the center of the analog stick which makes it very difficult for precise control. The dead spot is bigger on the Xbox version than the PS2, but neither is close to the degree of precision that can be achieved with the Gamecube versions, and you really need that precision! I don't know if this is the fault of the controllers themselves or the programmers, but I will assume that it is the game since I can't imagine other games like first person shooters working well with a built-in dead spot.

[Melf]

And I can't wait for the new Monkey Balls.


That just sounds SO wrong... :p

[j_factor]

Feel the Magic is pretty cool as are a lot of older Sega games from this Generation like Outrun 2 and F-Zero GX. I'm talking here and now.

What games qualify as "here and now"? Their most recent release is Out Run 2006 and everybody loves it.

The Tower SP came out last month, and is pretty damn good. I enjoyed The Rub Rabbits quite a bit. I think Monkey Ball DS is pretty good. I still haven't played Sonic Riders, so maybe that sucks. I did play a demo of Full Auto and it was a lot better than I expected.


Sega is still a shadow of its former self.

Agreed, but that's kind of different from making no good games.

[Joe Redifer]

I didn't say they make no good games, but their ratio of good to mediocre has dramatically increased... on the mediocre side. Sega does not make Full Auto. They published it. OutRun 2006 has inferior graphics than OutRun 2, even on the Xbox. The Xbox version is like a port of the PS2 game. I've never even heard of the Tower SP so I can't comment on that. I must admit I do not pay a lot of attention to PS2/Gamecube/Xbox games anymore because to be quite honest, this generation has really bored me like crazy this past year or so. That's why I hang out here at a retro site.

Maybe some of their new arcade-style games coming out will be good. That's what I miss. Arcade Sega.

[Elusive]

I didn't say they make no good games, but their ratio of good to mediocre has dramatically increased... on the mediocre side. Sega does not make Full Auto. They published it. OutRun 2006 has inferior graphics than OutRun 2, even on the Xbox. The Xbox version is like a port of the PS2 game. I've never even heard of the Tower SP so I can't comment on that. I must admit I do not pay a lot of attention to PS2/Gamecube/Xbox games anymore because to be quite honest, this generation has really bored me like crazy this past year or so. That's why I hang out here at a retro site.

Maybe some of their new arcade-style games coming out will be good. That's what I miss. Arcade Sega.

This is a Sega fansite. WE HAVE A TRAITOR IN OUR MIDST >=(


Sega is still a shadow of its former self.

No, they've evolved from what they were ten years ago. With what was going down during the nineties, surely that's a good thing?

I mean seriously. Rather than decrying everything and everything with the blue logo on it, how about embracing it? Think of it like movies - to afford the massive Mission Impossible III blockbusters, Hollywood has to churn out the fodder that puts bums on cinema seats en masse, like the Scary Movie series.


As for E3, I really really hope the new Sonic the Hedgehog game makes an appearance. Plus, I can always hold out hope for things that'll never happen, like a NiGHTS sequel or Streets of Rage 4 or Daytona USA 3.

[Joe Redifer]

I'm still a bigger Sega fanboy than most, and because of that I hold them in very high regard and have high expectations. I want nothing more than to love Sega games. I think there is plenty of hope that we'll once again get the creative Sega that we used to know. The Yakuza game seems pretty good (it's not like Shenmue. I wish the Shenmue comparisons would stop) but I've only played the Japanese version.

I have no intention of seeing Mission Impossible 3, at least not for a long while. Part 1 was fun. Part 2 was more of the same. Part 3 looks to be as well. Mission Impossible 3 is an example of a movie designed to put butts in theater seats.


This is a Sega fansite.
This is a Mega Drive/Genesis fansite.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

The new Monkeyballs suck ass. The only good ones are SMB 1 and 2 on the Gamecube. Deluxe is awful. The GBA one is OK, the DS one is pretty bad. Dunno about the upcoming one, we'll have to wait and see. I really didn't like Sonic Rush at all. I felt like it was made for the Tony Hawk crowd or something. There are way too many bottomless pits in that game. And... tricks? .

First, Deluxe is a compilation package of 1 and 2, so it can't stand on its own merits as an original game. Secondly, the other versions (mobile/handheld) are not console versions. There is no reason to expect less than the monkey ball standard for the upcoming games.

Sonic Rush was an okay game, I do know that you are wallowing a subjective opinion on this one, and that critics liked it.


A lot of the games you guys mention aren't even out yet, but you assume they are good. A lot of them are not programmed by Sega and therefore they do not count as "Sega". A lot of the Xbox360 games mentioned seem like total snooze-fests to me. I have yet to see an Xbox360 game that really makes me want the console, though that Ghost Recon game looks pretty cool. Feel the Magic is pretty cool as are a lot of older Sega games from this Generation like Outrun 2 and F-Zero GX. I'm talking here and now. Sega is still a shadow of its former self.

There's alot of contradiction here. First, Outrun 2 was not internally developed. Secondly, your statement about external development not counting is bonkers. Whomever publishes deserves its credit.

[j_factor]

Sega does not make Full Auto. They published it.

Technically, Sega doesn't make any games, and only publishes them.

[Joe Redifer]

If the development team is wholly owned by Sega, then Sega programs it. So yes, Sega makes games. Virtua Fighter is a good example. Sega designed Outrun 2 and Outrun 2 SP, so I'm willing to let that one slide even though the home versions were brought to us by Sumo Digital.

Publishers definitely deserve some credit, but I think the developers deserve far more, since they are the ones who actually design and make the game and all. It's like people saying Kill Bill is a fantastic Miramax movie. Few in the general public associate Kill Bill with Miramax... most people will say "Kill Bill is a great Tarantino movie" or similar.

[janus]

Miramax have always done loads of editing/producing/cutting to their films, though. I wonder if this happens to the same extent in the video game industry?

[Joe Redifer]

Publishers always have the final say, but they aren't the ones who do the work or edits. Publishers may tell the developer "Hey, this game is fun. You need to change it to be modern and post-apocalyptic. Also put in some NFL players and some great EA Trax." The developer grudgingly does it because they want to get paid, but it is up to the developer's skill if those changes are well done or not.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

If the development team is wholly owned by Sega, then Sega programs it. So yes, Sega makes games. Virtua Fighter is a good example. Sega designed Outrun 2 and Outrun 2 SP, so I'm willing to let that one slide even though the home versions were brought to us by Sumo Digital..

I forgot about the arcade factor. However, Sumo Digital did the porting, and they are not owned by Sega.


Publishers definitely deserve some credit, but I think the developers deserve far more, since they are the ones who actually design and make the game and all. It's like people saying Kill Bill is a fantastic Miramax movie. Few in the general public associate Kill Bill with Miramax... most people will say "Kill Bill is a great Tarantino movie" or similar.

Even so, had Miramax not been there there would be no movie. To say Sega is horrible when they aggressively publish good titles regardless of the developer is a gigantic mistake, they are responsible for its existence as much as the developer. Furthermore, I seriously doubt anyone with taste would call Kill Bill a great Tarantino Movie, or good movie at all, if you drink his cool aid.

[Joe Redifer]

No matter your opinion of Kill Bill, The Bridges of Madison County, Yentl or any other movie in the world, my point is that most people hardly ever refer to it by the studio's name, like I said. You'll most likely never hear: "Wow, I really hate what 20th Century FOX did with Star Wars Episode I". Only Disney gets that type of recognition.

[j_factor]

If the development team is wholly owned by Sega, then Sega programs it. So yes, Sega makes games.

So wait, Sega doesn't own Pseudo Interactive? I thought Sega acquired them a while back.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

No matter your opinion of Kill Bill, The Bridges of Madison County, Yentl or any other movie in the world, my point is that most people hardly ever refer to it by the studio's name, like I said. You'll most likely never hear: "Wow, I really hate what 20th Century FOX did with Star Wars Episode I". Only Disney gets that type of recognition.

Again, you fail to the see the point. Regardless of who gets public, Sega is the one who publishes the game. Now, imagine if there wasn't a publisher? If that game couldn't find another voice for this reason or that?

Don't deny Sega credit for publishing games, publishing is important to. It's distrubition to the people. I fully understand the role of a publisher and developer, and each deserves its credit.

Give respect where respect is due. And respect is due to Sega for both publishing and developing.

[Joe Redifer]

So wait, Sega doesn't own Pseudo Interactive?
I have no idea, I've never heard of them before. Did they make Full Auto?

[Obviously]

Again, you fail to the see the point. Regardless of who gets public, Sega is the one who publishes the game. Now, imagine if there wasn't a publisher? If that game couldn't find another voice for this reason or that?

Don't deny Sega credit for publishing games, publishing is important to. It's distrubition to the people. I fully understand the role of a publisher and developer, and each deserves its credit.

Give respect where respect is due. And respect is due to Sega for both publishing and developing.

I love Wing Commander games. Wing Commander is probably one of my favorite video game franchises. Do I credit Electronic Arts for making Wing Commander because the published it? No, the credit goes to Origin, the developers of the game. The publisher may make some executive decisions and ultimately decides the budget of the game, but the developers are the ones who make it good or bad. Granted without the millions of dollars EA sunk into the development costs of the later Wing Commander games, they may not have been as successful, but Digital Anvil which spawned from Chris Roberts leaving origin have still managed to create great games with a smaller budget.

I don't say, "Nintendo made a good game with Metroid Prime." even though it's a Nintendo series. I always say "Retro Studios made a good game with Metroid Prime." The same goes for Treasure and Gunstar Heroes which is even a Sega published game. I've never in my life (knowingly as I've probably done it accidentally on several occasions) creditted the publisher for making a game, because the publisher does not make the game.

That's not to say the publisher deserves zero credit, they deserve to have their name stamped on the product and that's the reason they're paying for the product to be made and distributed. Their job is to make money and be successful so the developers can be successful, rise in the ranks and make money too.

I remember when I was younger games were either "Sega games" or "Nintendo games" but in recent years developers are getting more credit for their work than they used to and the publishers aren't hogging the spotlight. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

I'm not comparing the role of a developer vs. a publisher. I'm just saying that even if Sega publishes they deserve credit.

To say Sega is stagnating when they are publishing great games is a stretch. You simply can't argue with that. Developing/Publishing, it doesn't matter, Sega gives a voice to the games.

Again, this is no silly comparison between roles. This is just giving credit to Sega for publishing good games. Actually, strike that, it's not knocking on Sega for publishing good games. I"m not going to bellyache, "Sega is a horrible stagnating company" while they continually publish and/or develop good games.

I can't understand why anyone would contest this.

[Obviously]

I get it, I was just misunderstanding you a bit.

[j_factor]

I have no idea, I've never heard of them before. Did they make Full Auto?

Yeah, they made Full Auto, they're making its sequel, and previously they had been working on Vectorman 3 (ugh).

[Elusive]

I'm not comparing the role of a developer vs. a publisher. I'm just saying that even if Sega publishes they deserve credit.

To say Sega is stagnating when they are publishing great games is a stretch. You simply can't argue with that. Developing/Publishing, it doesn't matter, Sega gives a voice to the games.

Again, this is no silly comparison between roles. This is just giving credit to Sega for publishing good games. Actually, strike that, it's not knocking on Sega for publishing good games. I"m not going to bellyache, "Sega is a horrible stagnating company" while they continually publish and/or develop good games.

I can't understand why anyone would contest this.

Because people with vague memories of playing Sonic and Knuckles when they were four make up the vast majority Internet SEGA & Sonic fandom. How can a company win over zealous teenaged 'fans' who automatically condemn everything SEGA are affiliated with because it can't compare with their precious childhood?

[j_factor]

I agree that publishing it counts for something.

I also agree that Sega isn't really stagnating. I think come next January, we'll be looking back at 2006 as a pretty good year for Sega. No, it's not going to be 1992 or '96 again, but in terms of quality and quantity (of quality), 2006 looks like it will be a big improvement over the past couple years.

But I still agree with Joe's sentiment that Sega isn't nearly as good as it was. It's not just the fact that they had hardware, but it seems that somehow having hardware out was what motivated Sega to push out so many good games. Or maybe it's the death of arcade gaming that got them. Or maybe it's something to do with Sammy, or their lame restructuring of in-house developers in 2003. Probably a combination of these and other factors.

Sega published a lot of games in 2000. And in that year, Sega was the #6 videogame publisher in the US, and they were restricted to DC's 35% of the market. In 2005, Sega published for every system and wasn't even in the top 10. I know I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. And it's no coincidence.

[Melf]

According to GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149349.html), Virtua Fighter 5 is going to be a PS3 exclusive.

Poo.

[j_factor]

No big surprise... what else would it come out for?

[Melf]

360? Wii?

Tell me you wouldn't want to have this on your Wii?



I'm never going to get tired of this, I swear! :D

[j_factor]

Well, I'd love it on Wii, but it never seemed likely in the first place.

Then again, if PS3 does poorly, I'm sure it won't remain exclusive.

[David J.]

Most all of Virtua Fighter's fanbase is in Japan, and Japanese gamers aren't huge on the Xbox 360 it seems, so....

[Elusive]

Most all of Virtua Fighter's fanbase is in Japan, and Japanese gamers aren't huge on the Xbox 360 it seems, so....

Exactly. You can't blame them for going where the money is.

"Virtua Fighter? You mean like Tekken?"

[j_factor]

Most all of Virtua Fighter's fanbase is in Japan, and Japanese gamers aren't huge on the Xbox 360 it seems, so....

Yet. We'll see how things go. If PS3 doesn't do that great, you can bet it won't stay a PS3 exclusive. Virtua Fighter is probably Sega's biggest cash cow in Japan (aside from maybe Sakura Taisen), and it is guaranteed to go to the #1 selling system.

[Obviously]

Being a purist of fighters I'm not sure how I'd feel playing a fighter on the Wiimote, though I know they're releasing a seperate more traditional controller for the Wii as well apparently.

[Melf]

I'm liable to belt my wife in the teeth accidentally while trying to pull off a combo or something.

"It's motion-sensitive dear! I'm sorry!"

[AmyDoesn'tDouche]

I don't think anybody has to worry about the PS3 not doing well. While Sony bungled up their pre-E3 press conference, it won't factor into sales a lick.

Furthermore, while the owners of xbox 360 in Japan are less numerous than japanese owners of large penises, the arcades in Japan are uber popular. This is important because VF5 is foremost an arcade game, one that will do well in Japan as an arcade game. The console port could be moved to the xbox 360 because that's the only way that VF5 could do well in North American markets, via a console.

Also, Sega's E3 was spectacular. Every single game looks promising.

[Obviously]

VF5 is looking better and better every time I see it.

[Elusive]

I really, really want to see more of Afterburner Climax.

Really, really, really.

If I can once more be the HMS Sega Enterprise's best pilot, screaming through the blue, blue skies to the sound of a remixed Final TakeOff in high-definition glory, I will forgive Sega everything. Everything. I'll even overlook SA2, honest.

GOD, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME PLEASE BRING THIS TO EUROPEAN SHORES OK not like how you screwed up with Planet Harriers >:[

[Joe Redifer]

God I hope the new Afterburner turns out better than the turd that was Planet Harriers.

[j_factor]

Sega's E3 was somewhat disappointing overall. Where the hell is Carbondale? Where's Space Channel 5 Part 3? Where's that game they were working with Michael Crichton on? Whatever happened to Clockwork Knight 3? Why didn't they show that new Shining game? What's Digital Rex working on? What became of that "Project S"? Where's the games for the Aurora arcade system, or is that even still coming?

[Dartagnan1083]

Digital Rex was disbanded before they could pump out a single game.
Rex was formed before the great 're-intergration' of 2005. . .so AM2 is all back together again.

Which effectivly ensures that we won't need to deal with another Virtua Quest.

Space Channel 5 would require Mitzuguchi's cooperation. . .
which won't come easy as he is working on 3 or 4 other projects.

[Dartagnan1083]

. . .The console port could be moved to the xbox 360 because that's the only way that VF5 could do well in North American markets, via a console.

Also, Sega's E3 was spectacular. Every single game looks promising.


VF4 had an AWESOME run on the PS2 in the states. . .going as far as #3 overall for the month it was released.

Considering that 360 hype is dying down. . .it's not inconceivable that the franchise would still do well on the PS3.


But yeah. . .Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with that price.

[Melf]

Rex was formed before the great 're-intergration' of 2005. . .so AM2 is all back together again.

Isn't Yu Suzuki heading AMPlus now?

[Joe Redifer]

I kinda enjoyed Virtua Quest. It kept me going until the end... the Gamecube version anyway. Great music!

[j_factor]

Space Channel 5 would require Mitzuguchi's cooperation. . .

No it wouldn't; it's Sega's property.

And anyway, there was a specific announcement some time ago about a third Space Channel 5 being in development. That's why I mentioned it.

And I still want Carbondale.

[Obviously]

Space Channel 5 part 2 has already left my brain a smouldering mess. It amazes me how something that simple can be that entertaining but I guess that's usual in Mizuguchi games.

[Dartagnan1083]

Mitzuguchi is a large part of what made his own games what they were.
So a proper SCh5 would benefit from his involvement. . .

lest you want hardcore fans to piss&moan while THQ releases another GBA version.

[j_factor]

Mitzuguchi is a large part of what made his own games what they were.
So a proper SCh5 would benefit from his involvement. . .

Well yeah it would benefit from his involvement, but he's not strictly required. It could easily be made by Sonic Team; not only do they have most of the old UGA staff, but Sonic Team themselves made a music game and it turned out damn good.

[Revenge of Joe Musashi]

Sega's E3 was somewhat disappointing overall. Where the hell is Carbondale? Where's Space Channel 5 Part 3? Where's that game they were working with Michael Crichton on? Whatever happened to Clockwork Knight 3? Why didn't they show that new Shining game? What's Digital Rex working on? What became of that "Project S"? Where's the games for the Aurora arcade system, or is that even still coming?


Wait for the Tokyo Game Show for the answer to many of your questions.

Also watch out for China's version of E3 in July where a few Sega games will be revealed including SHENMUE ONLINE(finally.)

[Cataulin]

Whats carbon dale? This is teh first time Ive ever heard of it.

[j_factor]

Carbondale is a game that takes place in the real-life small city of Carbondale, Illinois. Sega paid the town a visit and photographed several buildings and sites to use. They even digitally photographed a few residents of the town to use their likenesses in the game. In Carbondale, a freak blizzard isolates your city from the outside world, and aliens decide to land there and start attacking people and stuff.

[Cataulin]

Oh that sounds hell cool. its too bad they couldn't use the whole town.

[Benjamin]

Which effectivly ensures that we won't need to deal with another Virtua Quest.

Virtua Quest is not a bad game. Granted, it starts off horribly, but it does pick up and become fun as you progress through the game. The comboes and whip use is very enjoyable, and as a big VF fan, I love the tidbits about the series sprinkled throughout the game, even if the voices are cheesy. The enemy variety doesn't kick in soon enough, and that first level makes for a horrid starting point, but it is fun. Again, not a great game, but not something to be trashed as garbage either (see Shadow the Hedgehog).

I was going to respond to the undeserved Sega Rally 2006 trashing earlier posted, too, but that's too old I think, and I don't want to reference a stupid old flame war. :p