PS3 Recommendations

[17daysolderthannes]

I thought there was a thread for this, but it was either locked or it's long been buried.

Anyway, I'll be getting a PS3 soon and this is what I plan to buy so far (and no, I will not consider the failbox 360 from microfail):

-Little Big Planet
-Street Fighter IV (should I wait for Super SF IV?)
-GTA IV
-Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (or should I wait for the full release and play GT3 in the meantime?)
-Mirror's Edge
-Skate 2 (should I wait for Skate 3?)
-SF II HD Remix

I think there was more, I'll add them as I think of them.

I've only played SF IV, SF II HD Remix, and Skate 2, the rest I've only played for an insignificant amount of time or only saw someone else play it briefly. I'm open to suggestions, particularly if I should opt for the cheaper original release or the special editions that exist for many of these games. I don't care about stupid pack-in items, only special editions that add something to the game itself.

Stuff I'm interested in:

-racing games
-unique games
-fighting games
-flight sims

Stuff I'm NOT interested in:

-most FPS (did the Perfect Dark HD remake come out for PS3 in addition to XBOX 360? also, how is Unreal Tournament on PS3?)
-ALL RPGS
-strategy games
-sports games

[Joe Redifer]

Mirror's Edge is like $2 nowadays so why not? I wasn't even able to complete the demo so I passed on the retail game.

Wait for Super Street Fighter 4

Wait for Gran Turismo 5.

You need:

-Uncharted (this is not an FPS nor would I ever suggest one to anybody)
-Uncharted 2
-Burnout Paradise (really cheap, you can even download the entire game with all of the DLC included).
-Demon's Souls is good. Technically it is an RPG, but not as you know it. There are no towns, no fruity characters, no walls of text, no story. Mostly it is just battling. 97% of the game is battling. You buy your levels and you buy items. There is no selling or trading.
-Flower. This is PSN only, but you MUST have it. It is 100% motion controlled, but still so very worth it.
-Tekken 6 is pretty cool.

Probably a few others that I can't think of.

[17daysolderthannes]

oh yeah, I forgot about Uncharted. I heard the first one was awesome and the second one was one of the best, if not THE best, PS3 games.

And what about Flower? I don't get it. I watched a youtube video, but I don't really understand what was going on. Yes it's pretty and all, but I don't want to pay for a game that just lets me fly through grass indefinitely.

[InternalPrimate]

Uncharted is reason enough to own a PS3. Besides that (I'm no PS3 expert), I'd absolutely go with Arkham Asylum and Ratchet and Clank Future Perfect.

[cj iwakura]

Fighters?

BlazBlue, end of story. Great online, lots to do in story mode, awesome music.

[Chilly Willy]

Burnout Paradise is AWESOME. It's cheap and you can spend all day just driving around town... forget about racing! Just explore until you get bored. :D

[kool kitty89]

-Demon's Souls is good. Technically it is an RPG, but not as you know it. There are no towns, no fruity characters, no walls of text, no story. Mostly it is just battling. 97% of the game is battling. You buy your levels and you buy items. There is no selling or trading.
And if he's still unsure, there's Mark's Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPThY2U0rI
8NPThY2U0rI



Edit, not sure how you feel about satirical action/FPS (3rdPS in this case) kind of games, but Matt Hazard might be worth looking into. Orange box if you don't have it for PC perhaps? (even if you don't care for FPSs so much, there's Portal)

[johj1987]

the best games are

Saints Row 2:great game you could build your own character and customize cars

Red Faction: Guerrilla: good game you blow up bulidings and smash stuff



these are best GTA clones

[17daysolderthannes]

oh yeah, Orange Box, how could I forget that!?

*sigh* it seems PS3 is on the pricey side for alot of the multi-platform stuff, particularly with Orange Box. Was it a limited release since it came out right after PS3 launch?

[gamevet]

Orange Box isn't a rare release for the PS3. I guess since it's not as common as the 360 version, that would explain the $30 price tag, vs. $20 for 360. GOTY Edition of Oblivion is the same way.




Edit, not sure how you feel about satirical action/FPS (3rdPS in this case) kind of games, but Matt Hazard might be worth looking into.

It's poorly done humor, covering up a very mediocre FPS. I can't believe I've actually wasted enough time with the game to open up 55% of the trophies.

[Kollision]

If you're at least a bit interested in shmups you might want to keep an eye out for Söldner-X 2, coming out for PSN in May.

It's supposed to be a great development over the 1st one, which wasn't bad by any means. :)

[Chilly Willy]

oh yeah, Orange Box, how could I forget that!?

*sigh* it seems PS3 is on the pricey side for alot of the multi-platform stuff, particularly with Orange Box. Was it a limited release since it came out right after PS3 launch?

I got Orange Box at WalMart on the cheap rack. They normally have a few copies on the cheap rack all the time. It's also a "must have" game. :D

If you're into FPS/RPGs, Fallout 3 is great on the PS3. The Game of the Year Edition is out, which gives you all the DLC along with the game.
:cool:

[MrMatthews]

If you're into FPS/RPGs, Fallout 3 is great on the PS3.


17days sez: "A FPS/RPG??? I's in heaven?"

[17daysolderthannes]

17days sez: "A FPS/RPG??? I's in heaven?"

The funny thing is, when I was saying "NO FPS!" I was thinking of Fallout 3. No. thank. you.

[Chilly Willy]

17days sez: "A FPS/RPG??? I's in heaven?"

If you ever played King's Field for the PSX, Fallout 3 is a modern version of that (not the game storyline, the style of the game). King's Field was a favorite of mine at the time (played through KF1 and 2), so I rather like Fallout 3.

[gamevet]

I've heard Demon's Souls plays more like Kings Field, though I've never played a King's Field game.

[Chilly Willy]

I've heard Demon's Souls plays more like Kings Field, though I've never played a King's Field game.

If it does, I'll have to get it. I like those kinds of games. :D

[Hidden_Darkness]

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[snakesqzns]

Demon's Souls, Demon's Souls, Demon's Souls!

Fallout 3, Super Street Fighter IV (when it's out), Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles, Genesis Collection, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resident Evil 5

And I'll recommend Final Fantasy XIII because a) the JRPGS all pretty much suck on PS3, and b) the artwork is insane.

[Why-Disciple]

-unique games
Heavy Rain, absolutely. Surprised no one's mentioned it.
Flower
Megaman 9, if you consider it unique.


-fighting games

I'm big on Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6, and Blazblue- *Points to sig*. CJ's got it right. Definitely try them out.

Yes, wait for Super SF4. It's out in, like, a week.

Other than that, I'll suggest Resident Evil 5 and Metal Gear Solid 4 (unless you're opposed to it) and whatever PS1 classics you might find on PSN.

[17daysolderthannes]

Heavy Rain, absolutely. Surprised no one's mentioned it.
Flower

I keep seeing stuff about Heavy Rain, but I have no clue what it's actually about. I am trying to stay away from new releases, though, as Skate 3 and Super SF IV are all I'm considering in the new release department (Skate 3 if gameplay is improved and SSF IV b/c everyone will start playing it online instead of regular SF IV).



Megaman 9, if you consider it unique.

I do not.

In fact, I consider Mega Man 9 and 10 to be the biggest horse shit copouts in video game history. I have MM9 for Wii and IMO it is completely unjustified and is just another unnecessary MM iteration like MM4-6.



I'm big on Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6, and Blazblue- *Points to sig*. CJ's got it right. Definitely try them out.



Holy fuck no. Soul Calibur and Tekken should burn in hell with all other button mashing bullshit. I hate those games with a burning passion. BlazBlue is out for anime faggotry (I do not care for anime)



Other than that, I'll suggest Resident Evil 5 and Metal Gear Solid 4 (unless you're opposed to it)

Seen both played, not really interested in either one.


and whatever PS1 classics you might find on PSN.

I don't buy DLC games when physical copies exist. Besides, that's what ePSXe and PSX2PSP is for. My HDTV I will soon have+VGA+ePSXe graphics improvements>PSN PSX downloads.

Don't take my shitting on your suggestions personally, but you just happened to mention just about everything I hate with a burning passion.

[kokujin]

Virtua Fighter 5, Demon Souls, Resonance of Fate(the presentation is gay, but it's a good game),same for Valkyria Chronicles, you can get Bayonetta, but I heard the PS3 version had problems.There aren't that many PS3 exclusives that are worth buying, but that's just me.

[Why-Disciple]

Holy fuck no. Soul Calibur and Tekken should burn in hell with all other button mashing bullshit. I hate those games with a burning passion. BlazBlue is out for anime faggotry (I do not care for anime)

I can understand that about SC, but Tekken is NOT button masher friendly. Not near as much as SF4, which I personally consider to be a beginner's game. It takes long hours of practice to get good at it, and even then, you've got a lot of competition if you play against humans, online or off.

I'm not big on anime either, but gameplay-wise, BB is fucking epic. Just to throw that out there.

The only other fighting game I can think of on PS3 is Virtua Fighter 5, but that's not online and doesn't have much of a community. Not to mention I personally don't care for it.

[gamevet]

I can understand that about SC, but Tekken is NOT button masher friendly. Not near as much as SF4, which I personally consider to be a beginner's game. It takes long hours of practice to get good at it, and even then, you've got a lot of competition if you play against humans, online or off.


No offense, but SF4 stomps all over the half-assed Tekken. If you like solid 3D fighting, Virtua Fighter 5 is the real deal. Tekken is the fighter for people who don't want to spend their whole life mastering a game, which some do with Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter.

[Why-Disciple]

Explain to me how Tekken is half-assed. It's fairly balanced, moreso than SF4 (I'm talking about Sagat), it's got 40 characters, all with over 100 moves and combos, most of which you need to learn in practice mode to know how and when to use, while SF4 has only around 3 special moves per character, several of which are rehashes of other characters' moves (it's easy to learn, which is why I feel it's more of a beginner's game). Plus you've got flowchart Kens floating all over the place- Tekken is way too complicated to have any flowchart characters. And yes, you do need to spend a shitload of time to master it. With so many characters and moves, you have to memorize all the frame data for each and every one of them to master it, and also how to juggle with which moves. SF has, what, 25-30 moves per character? For the record though, most of what I said about Tekken can also be said about VF. I just personally don't find it as fun, so to each his own.

[gamevet]

Explain to me how Tekken is half-assed. It's fairly balanced, moreso than SF4 (I'm talking about Sagat), it's got 40 characters, all with over 100 moves and combos, most of which you need to learn in practice mode to know how and when to use, while SF4 has only around 3 special moves per character, several of which are rehashes of other characters' moves (it's easy to learn, which is why I feel it's more of a beginner's game). Plus you've got flowchart Kens floating all over the place- Tekken is way too complicated to have any flowchart characters. And yes, you do need to spend a shitload of time to master it. With so many characters and moves, you have to memorize all the frame data for each and every one of them to master it, and also how to juggle with which moves. SF has, what, 25-30 moves per character? For the record though, most of what I said about Tekken can also be said about VF. I just personally don't find it as fun, so to each his own.

Part of mastering Street Fighter, is knowing the frame-count to cancel out moves by the opponent. I honestly don't know how much that plays into the gameplay of Street Fighter 4 though, but judging by how well respected Street Fighter is in the tournament community, I'd guess Capcom hasn't deviated away from that.

QgSAOxwr0xE

[Roussimoff]

"anime faggotry"....wow...good to see that idiocy and homophobia among closeted latent angry young homosexuals does NOT exist here at Sega-16!! ;) I dont care for the watered-down, Americanized recent anime either, but considering that 3/4 of the members here have some sort of anime character/monster as their AVATAR, maybe, just MAYBE, that was a horribly offensive and stupidly closed-minded thing to say, no??

Out of curiosity, how does one HATE a video game with a "burning passion"..?? Yikes...someone needs more fresh air and their first taste of vagina! (Or, if YOU prefer, the other...)

LOL...too funny...great reads!

:D

[Knuckle Duster]

"anime faggotry"....wow...good to see that idiocy and homophobia among closeted latent angry young homosexuals does NOT exist here at Sega-16!! ;) I dont care for the watered-down, Americanized recent anime either, but considering that 3/4 of the members here have some sort of anime character/monster as their AVATAR, maybe, just MAYBE, that was a horribly offensive and stupidly closed-minded thing to say, no??

Out of curiosity, how does one HATE a video game with a "burning passion"..?? Yikes...someone needs more fresh air and their first taste of vagina! (Or, if YOU prefer, the other...)

LOL...too funny...great reads!

:D

Just write it off as "Nerd Rage"

[Why-Disciple]

Part of mastering Street Fighter, is knowing the frame-count to cancel out moves by the opponent. I honestly don't know how much that plays into the gameplay of Street Fighter 4 though, but judging by how well respected Street Fighter is in the tournament community, I'd guess Capcom hasn't deviated away from that.

QgSAOxwr0xE

You're right about having to know frame data in SF as well, but my point is that it's harder to master Tekken because there are at least 3 times as many moves to memorize, and none of them are rehashes like in SF.

Also, glad to know someone else here prefers 3rd Strike, heheh.

[gamevet]

You're right about having to know frame data in SF as well, but my point is that it's harder to master Tekken because there are at least 3 times as many moves to memorize, and none of them are rehashes like in SF.

Also, glad to know someone else here prefers 3rd Strike, heheh.

If Tekken is finally down to that much detail, it's a good thing. The first 2 Tekken games were just horrible, in that manner.

[17daysolderthannes]

"anime faggotry"....wow...good to see that idiocy and homophobia among closeted latent angry young homosexuals does NOT exist here at Sega-16!! ;) I dont care for the watered-down, Americanized recent anime either, but considering that 3/4 of the members here have some sort of anime character/monster as their AVATAR, maybe, just MAYBE, that was a horribly offensive and stupidly closed-minded thing to say, no??

First of all, faggotry was not a homophobic use, it was akin to saying "you let your mommy cut the crust off of your sandwich? fag." Besides, don't you watch South Park? the new fags are harley riders.

I'm not talking "watered down American anime," I'm talking ALL anime. The only anime I can even tolerate is more realistic stuff like Initial D and Wangan Midnight, which could easily both be live action. More than the anime itself, I hate the fanbase, they're all of the most awkward creepo people on the planet. Anime fans have ruined video games for the most part and I would LOVE to offend each and every one of them.

Video games used to be represented by characters like this:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Chaoswindx/kidvid.gif

now they're represented with stupid ass shit like this:

http://z.about.com/d/manga/1/0/S/9/-/-/NYAF_Link_500.jpg

and this

http://www.guzer.com/pictures/anime-costume-girl.jpg

I mean, what the shit!?

I don't like being lumped in with these cosplaying, anime porn watching, unbathed, acne encrusted, cheeto stained, basement dungeon lurking, D&D playing douchenozzles every time I say to someone "yeah, I play/like video games"

I just want to go to an anime convention and do this:

gZEdDMQZaCU

C3njjD41f48




Out of curiosity, how does one HATE a video game with a "burning passion"..?? Yikes...someone needs more fresh air and their first taste of vagina! (Or, if YOU prefer, the other...)

LOL...too funny...great reads!

:D

Because I don't like shitty button mashers, anime bullshit, and other shitty games being made in place of better games that could use those resources. Also, it's called hyperbole, look it up dumbshit.



P.S. as for the "latent homosexual" comment, let's have a vote, do I REALLY need to post pics of every girl I've hooked up with AGAIN? no, because then people would just bitch.

Suffice it to say, I've gotten more female ass than anyone you know, so let's leave it at that.

[Knuckle Duster]

First of all, faggotry was not a homophobic use, it was akin to saying "you let your mommy cut the crust off of your sandwich? fag." Besides, don't you watch South Park? the new fags are harley riders.

I'm not talking "watered down American anime," I'm talking ALL anime. The only anime I can even tolerate is more realistic stuff like Initial D and Wangan Midnight, which could easily both be live action. More than the anime itself, I hate the fanbase, they're all of the most awkward creepo people on the planet. Anime fans have ruined video games for the most part and I would LOVE to offend each and every one of them.

Video games used to be represented by characters like this:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Chaoswindx/kidvid.gif

now they're represented with stupid ass shit like this:

http://z.about.com/d/manga/1/0/S/9/-/-/NYAF_Link_500.jpg

and this

http://www.guzer.com/pictures/anime-costume-girl.jpg

I mean, what the shit!?

I don't like being lumped in with these cosplaying, anime porn watching, unbathed, acne encrusted, cheeto stained, basement dungeon lurking, D&D playing douchenozzles every time I say to someone "yeah, I play/like video games"

I just want to go to an anime convention and do this:

gZEdDMQZaCU

C3njjD41f48




Because I don't like shitty button mashers, anime bullshit, and other shitty games being made in place of better games that could use those resources. Also, it's called hyperbole, look it up dumbshit.



P.S. as for the "latent homosexual" comment, let's have a vote, do I REALLY need to post pics of every girl I've hooked up with AGAIN? no, because then people would just bitch.

Suffice it to say, I've gotten more female ass than anyone you know, so let's leave it at that.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/11/dat_ass1.jpg

"I hate anime because it makes me look like a douchebag, so I act like a douchebag to make anime look bad." [/broken logic nerd rage]

I find it ironic how a man (Haha. Yeah. :|) who regularly dressed up to make Youtube 'game videos' while mimicing a VietNam veteran, would take issue with Anime fans into cosplay at conventions or elsewhere.

LuL20ty9-Y4

How close minded and arrogant one must be to view how other people lead their lives, or express themselves, as a threat to your own personal expression perceived by others.

Saying "I like video games" doesn't bring anime cartoons to mind in the slightest way to anybody ignorant these days. It brings about images of cheeto eating lazy assholes sitting in front of Madden 2010, an FPS, or Grand Theft Auto.

Congratulations on letting paranoia dictate your lifestyle and opinions.

[Why-Disciple]

If Tekken is finally down to that much detail, it's a good thing. The first 2 Tekken games were just horrible, in that manner.

Oh wow, you were judging by the first two Tekkens? Lol, it's changed a TON since then. It's a totally different game. Tekken 1-2 sucked. Everything after that changed its pace and improved drastically.

[Knuckle Duster]

Oh wow, you were judging by the first two Tekkens? Lol, it's changed a TON since then. It's a totally different game. Tekken 1-2 sucked. Everything after that changed its pace and improved drastically.

Tekken 3 was revolutionary.

[Roussimoff]

LOL...great stuff!

So then, to re-cap:

Cosplay/anime = BAD and NERDY

Spouting venom and making over generalized, hate-filled comments throughout 98% of your posts on a SITE FOR VIDEO GAMES = AWESOME!!

So let me get this straight, the Burger King Kids Club/Mac Culkin dorkified "mascot" drawing is ACCEPTABLE to you, yet the cute chick dressed in a Zelda-themed suit is "NERDY"? Hmmm...are you SURE about that "female ass"??? ;)

Check and check...LOL...ok ok I'm done...harassing socially stunted shut-ins that only live to troll and torment is CRUEL!!
;)

"17day" = EPIC WINNER!!! What would this forum or ANY forum for that matter be without your worldly insights and compassionate humanity good sir? :bday::bull:

[AD2101]

Leisure Suit Larry

[cj iwakura]

This topic took a turn for the stupid real fast.

[17daysolderthannes]

I find it ironic how a man (Haha. Yeah. :|) who regularly dressed up to make Youtube 'game videos' while mimicing a VietNam veteran, would take issue with Anime fans into cosplay at conventions or elsewhere.

LuL20ty9-Y4


So twice=regularly?

Also, hi, it's a joke. I don't know how you could even remotely compare someone ACTING like a cracked out vietnam vet AS A JOKE FOR A VIDEO could be compared to someone that dresses up like a Pokemon...for fun?

I mean, you're comparing me to this?:

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fat-wolverine.jpg




LOL...great stuff!

So then, to re-cap:

Cosplay/anime = BAD and NERDY

Spouting venom and making over generalized, hate-filled comments throughout 98% of your posts on a SITE FOR VIDEO GAMES = AWESOME!!

um, yeah, pretty much.



So let me get this straight, the Burger King Kids Club/Mac Culkin dorkified "mascot" drawing is ACCEPTABLE to you, yet the cute chick dressed in a Zelda-themed suit is "NERDY"? Hmmm...are you SURE about that "female ass"??? ;)

Cute chick in a Zelda outfit! LMFAO! no wonder no one understands me when I say playing a PSP in public will dry every woman's vagina in a 12 mile radius, it's because you think some lumpy fat chick is hot!

Kid Vid is an over-the-top 80's mascot character, and yes, I'd much rather that than some poorly animated, stupidly drawn, crappy soap opera anime bullshit.




Check and check...LOL...ok ok I'm done...harassing socially stunted shut-ins that only live to troll and torment is CRUEL!!
;)



you're harassing yourself?


This topic took a turn for the stupid real fast.

yes it did.

Anime is fucking stupid, lets move on.

Back on topic:

can you put GameFAQs saves on a PS2 memory card via PS3? I was thinking GameFAQs->thumb drive->PS3->PS2 to PS3 adapter->PS2 memory card->enjoy

[cj iwakura]

It's feasible, but that's all assuming you have a PS3 that supports PS2 data.



And anime's like anything with an unappealing fanbase. Some of it's worth watching, you shouldn't let idiots deter you from it.

Though the quality ratio is way down as of late.

[MN12BIRD]

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fat-wolverine.jpg


LOL I thought that was Pikachu at first glance. %100 serious too!

[Puffy2k316]

i didnt know wolverine was a vampire

Oh btw i agree with 17 somewhat. Blazblue is an amazing looking game with fantastic gameplay that's basically ruined by shitty character design. I wouldn't call it "anime faggotry" though. It's easy for forget that Street Fighter is pretty heavily anime influenced, it's just not obnoxious like Blazblue

[17daysolderthannes]

i didnt know wolverine was a vampire

Oh btw i agree with 17 somewhat. Blazblue is an amazing looking game with fantastic gameplay that's basically ruined by shitty character design. I wouldn't call it "anime faggotry" though. It's easy for forget that Street Fighter is pretty heavily anime influenced, it's just not obnoxious like Blazblue

Well, Street Fighter kinda evolved into anime-looking characters. Also, I think that's part of the reason why I prefer SF II over later iterations. I can tolerate human characters that have a slight anime look (again, like Initial D and Wangan Midnight), but the over the top anime "fantasy" characters are not to my liking.

[Roussimoff]

Wow....

:lawl::lawl::bull:

[OldSchool]

I thought there was a thread for this, but it was either locked or it's long been buried.

Anyway, I'll be getting a PS3 soon and this is what I plan to buy so far (and no, I will not consider the failbox 360 from microfail):

-Little Big Planet
-Street Fighter IV (should I wait for Super SF IV?)
-GTA IV
-Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (or should I wait for the full release and play GT3 in the meantime?)
-Mirror's Edge
-Skate 2 (should I wait for Skate 3?)
-SF II HD Remix

Those are better on PC.


duh


Tekken 3 was revolutionary.

I recently picked up Tekken Tag Team and have 4 on the way...


Do I fail? :| :o


blah blah blah

P.S. as for the "latent homosexual" comment, let's have a vote, do I REALLY need to post pics of every girl I've hooked up with AGAIN? no, because then people would just bitch.

Suffice it to say, I've gotten more female ass than anyone you know, so let's leave it at that.

Lol... wow, you've had pussy before... please do tell... what's that like?

[gamevet]

Mirror's Edge sucks on PC, even if it does have better graphics.

[OldSchool]

Mirror's Edge sucks on PC, even if it does have better graphics.

How so?

[gamevet]

The controls were not made for a keyboard and mouse. The game doesn't even support a control pad, even though it was designed alongside consoles. I could map keyboard and mouse inputs to a controller, but it still won't control as well as the console game.

[Joe Redifer]

It's kind of a crappy game to begin with as well.

[OldSchool]

The controls were not made for a keyboard and mouse. The game doesn't even support a control pad, even though it was designed alongside consoles. I could map keyboard and mouse inputs to a controller, but it still won't control as well as the console game.

It's an FPS game so I disagree with you completely. I've seen videos, it's a platformer, but it's in FP, so.... yeah

From what I just read on a couple sites, it does albeit with some issues:


http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/mirrors-edge/379576-pc-gamepad-problems.html

Looks like it'll take some configuring to get Gamepads to work the way one wants them to.... but they do work.

This is another great example of Ports being (imo) fubarred on purpose for PC in order to steer people clear of gaming on PC (not sure why the money is wasted on the port then).


Honestly, I could give two shits less as long as an FPS game runs as normal... i.e. with a KB&M.

FP Gaming is meant for KB&M. All these FPS games I've picked up recently for PS2 are WEIRD playing with a gamepad... I'll get used to them, and they'll definitely be a unique experience for me because of the control scheme, but on the PC, lol... get out of here, better be a KB&M.

$6 sealed at Half Priced Books

[WarmSignal]

I think that you should wait and consider the possibility of a Failbox 360 Slim, from our good friends at Microfail.

[gamevet]

It's an FPS game so I disagree with you completely. I've seen videos, it's a platformer, but it's in FP, so.... yeah

From what I just read on a couple sites, it does albeit with some issues:


http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/mirrors-edge/379576-pc-gamepad-problems.html

Looks like it'll take some configuring to get Gamepads to work the way one wants them to.... but they do work.

This is another great example of Ports being (imo) fubarred on purpose for PC in order to steer people clear of gaming on PC (not sure why the money is wasted on the port then).


Honestly, I could give two shits less as long as an FPS game runs as normal... i.e. with a KB&M.

FP Gaming is meant for KB&M. All these FPS games I've picked up recently for PS2 are WEIRD playing with a gamepad... I'll get used to them, and they'll definitely be a unique experience for me because of the control scheme, but on the PC, lol... get out of here, better be a KB&M.

$6 sealed at Half Priced Books

Yeah, I'd bought the PC version from HPB over a month ago.

The game is not an FPS either; The game is more of a first person platformer, than a FPS; You could actually go through an entire level, and not fire one shot.

[cj iwakura]

Wait, what? I finished Mirror's Edge on PC without any problem, and I enjoyed it.


Granted, I got it for $5 during the Steam Christmas sale, but hey.

[OldSchool]

I think that you should wait and consider the possibility of a Failbox 360 Slim, from our good friends at Microfail.

What's wrong with getting a 360 for it's exclusive games and getting a P3 for it's exclusive games? I don't see the issue here....


Yeah, I'd bought the PC version from HPB over a month ago.

The game is not an FPS either; The game is more of a first person platformer, than a FPS; You could actually go through an entire level, and not fire one shot.

Yeah, from what I saw... it definitely didn't look like a shooter, so fair point.
Still, any FP game that's available for PC should be played with KB&M imo.


Wait, what? I finished Mirror's Edge on PC without any problem, and I enjoyed it.


Granted, I got it for $5 during the Steam Christmas sale, but hey.

Damn... $5 and you didn't get a box and a disc.

DLC = rip off.
:|

[gamevet]

Yeah, from what I saw... it definitely didn't look like a shooter, so fair point.
Still, any FP game that's available for PC should be played with KB&M imo.



Platformers should be played with a controller, even if said platformer is first person.

[17daysolderthannes]

Lol... wow, you've had pussy before... please do tell... what's that like?

kinda like fucking a jar of jelly...with boobs.


I think that you should wait and consider the possibility of a Failbox 360 Slim, from our good friends at Microfail.

this amused me. "consider" and "failbox 360" in the same sentence. Uhhhhhh...no.



Damn... $5 and you didn't get a box and a disc.

DLC = rip off.
:|

For $5, I think that's A OK. The way I look at it is if it's cheaper than a Blockbuster rental, DLC is fine. On the other hand, $50 DLC can burn in eternal hellfire.


Platformers should be played with a controller, even if said platformer is first person.

indeed, especially if it was designed around using a controller.

[PimpUigi]

-SF II HD Remix
Snap, we gotta play once you get it. Let me know what your PSN name is.
I recommend Flower, and Sonic Unleashed (as well as the PS2/Wii version of Sonic Unleashed)


---
AND OMFG guys with the PC talk again?!
Gamevet, didn't someone post a freeware keyboard to game pad mapping program for you?
GTA4 feels like crap everywhere TBH, it's draw distance pisses me off, and you can't disable the draw distance stuff in the PC version either (Enhance yes, disable no; I hate draw distance, it's even in Crysis and FarCry 2, but at least you can make autoexec files that disable it completely and draw everything, of course it hurts performance...but totally worth it)

Yes, Portal can be downloaded for free on PC, but seriously, just drop the PC talk OldSchool.
---


PS
The PSN/XBL editions of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 are supposedly arcade perfect, but with widescreen and three sprite smoothing graphic filters (one of which is no filter at all)
It even comes with a full unlock utility so you don't have to earn any characters or colors.
Best version of the game IMHO until someone shows me a way it isn't arcade perfect.
At first, they had left the juggernaut glitch out, but they patched it in thankfully.

[OldSchool]

kinda like fucking a jar of jelly...with boobs.

this amused me. "consider" and "failbox 360" in the same sentence. Uhhhhhh...no.

For $5, I think that's A OK. The way I look at it is if it's cheaper than a Blockbuster rental, DLC is fine. On the other hand, $50 DLC can burn in eternal hellfire.

indeed, especially if it was designed around using a controller.

Wow, you must have had lots of it judging from that excellent depiction.

A system is worth buying if it has quality exclusive games.

I don't. I paid $5 and I got a box and DvD.

Meh, FP = M&KB all day long.


Platformers should be played with a controller, even if said platformer is first person.

We'll have to agree to disagree. FP Gaming is best played with a M&KB imo.


---
AND OMFG guys with the PC talk again?!
Gamevet, didn't someone post a freeware keyboard to game pad mapping program for you?
GTA4 feels like crap everywhere TBH, it's draw distance pisses me off, and you can't disable the draw distance stuff in the PC version either (Enhance yes, disable no; I hate draw distance, it's even in Crysis and FarCry 2, but at least you can make autoexec files that disable it completely and draw everything, of course it hurts performance...but totally worth it)

Yes, Portal can be downloaded for free on PC, but seriously, just drop the PC talk OldSchool.
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Wanna cuddle? We can slow talk about how fast your budget dualcore is.
:o

Btw... Crytek uses 4 cores, lol.


I'm going to get a PS3 when it's $200 or less. Same for 360. Only game I can recommend for either of those (not sure if it's an exclusive or not) is the new Ninja Guiden... looks badass on the box, I haven't watched a youtube of it. Should definitely be worth $30 new at some point I'm sure... $20'd be even better though.

[17daysolderthannes]

Snap, we gotta play once you get it. Let me know what your PSN name is.

That won't be for another 2 months when I move to New York. The PS3 I have right now is technically my dad's and I don't want to go through all of the hassle of transferring DLC and what not.




PS
The PSN/XBL editions of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 are supposedly arcade perfect, but with widescreen and three sprite smoothing graphic filters (one of which is no filter at all)
It even comes with a full unlock utility so you don't have to earn any characters or colors.
Best version of the game IMHO until someone shows me a way it isn't arcade perfect.
At first, they had left the juggernaut glitch out, but they patched it in thankfully.

Well, I already have the DC version and I can unlock everything with VMU Explorer (or whatever it's called), but I don't like that game anyway.

@OldSchool: The XBOX 360 is NEVER worth it simply because the reliability is completely non-existant. I will never buy a system with the kind of failure rate the 360 has. At least an NES is reliable excluding the pin connector (which can easily and cheaply be changed, though it won't need it if you're gentle), the XBOX 360 pretty much inevitably fails no matter what you do and even when "fixed" with the screw and washer fix, I still don't believe it'll last forever.

[OldSchool]

That won't be for another 2 months when I move to New York. The PS3 I have right now is technically my dad's and I don't want to go through all of the hassle of transferring DLC and what not.

@OldSchool: The XBOX 360 is NEVER worth it simply because the reliability is completely non-existant. I will never buy a system with the kind of failure rate the 360 has. At least an NES is reliable excluding the pin connector (which can easily and cheaply be changed, though it won't need it if you're gentle), the XBOX 360 pretty much inevitably fails no matter what you do and even when "fixed" with the screw and washer fix, I still don't believe it'll last forever.

And yet another reason why (imho) DLC = failure.


:?


No kidding? Hmmm, looks like I need to edemecate myself on it... this is the first I've heard of it being an unreliable system as far as build goes. I heard about the Red Ring fiasco (faintly anyhow) that plagued the (first run?) of 360s. I'll take a look into it.

[17daysolderthannes]

And yet another reason why (imho) DLC = failure.


:?

Well, you can call up Sony and transfer it IIRC, but it's not worth even that when I'm moving in 2 months and will be pretty booked up until then anyway. If my PS3 crashed, however, it would be worth the trouble.

[OldSchool]

Well, you can call up Sony and transfer it IIRC, but it's not worth even that when I'm moving in 2 months and will be pretty booked up until then anyway. If my PS3 crashed, however, it would be worth the trouble.

If you had the discs, you wouldn't have to worry about anything.

:?

[PimpUigi]

...PS3 DLC can be re downloaded multiple times no worries.
So long as you keep using your own original account.

I've downloaded HD Remix three times already (though that third person really didn't deserve it, and conned me quite a bit...I did get back at him though)

You don't even have to activate your profile like with 360.
PS3 does it much much better.

[sketch]

Grid is a great racing game. Highly underrated, and probably cheap by now.

BTW, your generalization of anime suggests you don't know much about it. The kinds of anime gamut from the nerdy, gay, girly, pornographic, action, mundane/salaryman, high school, sci fi, horror, and everything else you can think of. There's a lot of crap, but a lot of great stuff too.

And some people think retro gamers are fags. But hey, you've had more tail than I'll ever see, so what do I know?

[PimpUigi]

: o

I agree with him about the anime style TBH.
The anime style HD Remix has goes too far with most of the people in backgrounds, as well as Cammy's face.

Ick, Cammy's face.
What did they do to it?!

And the artists in HD remix were clearly just lazy.
The dancers in Spain only have 1 frame of "animation."
(similar to the inferior SNES versions of SF2)

I'm surprised they kept the girl with her hand on the guys crotch in Guile's stage.

They threw out awesome inside jokes like the Nin Nin Hall/Ball, but thankfully kept ones like "Buppo" the boat.

And of course they were completely lazy with the soundtrack, letting OC Remix provide all the music - resulting in many slow/unappleaing tracks that just don't work for fighting games being included.

They didn't even include the option for CPS1 music, or original backgrounds.

They also couldn't leave well enough alone with the controls, and removed important things like 3P and 3K...


Overall HD Remix is amazing though.
: )

[sketch]

I agree about the anime style of Street Fighter HD, or whatever they call it. I don't love the style. I'm also not a fan of BlazBlue's animation. But not just because it is anime...

[OldSchool]

...PS3 DLC can be re downloaded multiple times no worries.
So long as you keep using your own original account.

I've downloaded HD Remix three times already (though that third person really didn't deserve it, and conned me quite a bit...I did get back at him though)

You don't even have to activate your profile like with 360.
PS3 does it much much better.

Installing/Running a game directly from the disc is even better.

[PimpUigi]

...uh, no.
But what would be better is if I could edit the games files to replace all the music with CPS1 variants of every song, and disable the annoying menu music.

[17daysolderthannes]

If you had the discs, you wouldn't have to worry about anything.

:?

Except the drive wearing out (HI INTERNAL PRIMATE, CARE TO JOIN!?)

This is especially an issue if you aren't technically inclined enough to fix it.


...PS3 DLC can be re downloaded multiple times no worries.
So long as you keep using your own original account.

I've downloaded HD Remix three times already (though that third person really didn't deserve it, and conned me quite a bit...I did get back at him though)

You don't even have to activate your profile like with 360.
PS3 does it much much better.

Do you know of a good tutorial explaining everything you have to do? I'll download it soon (tonight?) if I can transfer it to my new PS3 without the lame restrictions like the XBOX 360 thing where you have to be logged in to your account to play it on any other XBOX 360.


Grid is a great racing game. Highly underrated, and probably cheap by now.

BTW, your generalization of anime suggests you don't know much about it. The kinds of anime gamut from the nerdy, gay, girly, pornographic, action, mundane/salaryman, high school, sci fi, horror, and everything else you can think of. There's a lot of crap, but a lot of great stuff too.

And some people think retro gamers are fags. But hey, you've had more tail than I'll ever see, so what do I know?

Grid is indeed awesome, but it's about $20 on Amazon right now and with GT3 already in my possession, GT5 on the way, and so many other great unique games at or below that price, I'll wait a little bit before I pick it up.

I've seen plenty of anime as at times it has overrun Adult Swim and there used to be "Toonami" in the afternoons on Cartoon Network. About 15 minutes into any of it I say "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!?" and never watch it again. I had a friend that watched DBZ every day religiously and I watched it with him. I don't see what is entertaining about a super convoluted story that plays out in 5 FPS with soap opera emotion. Also, if I see another fucking anime character close their eyelids up and screech in a high pitched voice, I'm going to kill myself. Like I said, I can tolerate stuff like Initial D and Wangan Midnight because almost none of the typical anime conventions are there, it's literally live action movies that just happen to be animated instead. Though, I must say, the live action Initial D and Wangan Midnight blow the pants off of the anime versions. The thing that annoys me most about anime, though, is just the fans. They need to tone down the dork, they're about an 11, I need them at about a 3.

And no one thinks retro gamers are fags, at most they think they're just not "in the know." Retro game T-shirts are the one video game item you can wear in public and not be a massive tool.


Installing/Running a game directly from the disc is even better.

Unless your drive is worn out, the disc has scratches, or it costs significantly more on disc. Believe me, I'm captain of the "I dunno about this DLC" boat, but if it means games will launch at $20-$30 instead of $60 and companies offer significant measures to make sure you keep the game forever, I can deal with it. It's only really a problem if you like to sell/trade games or often sell systems, which I don't do, so it's not an issue for me. For the time being, though, I am keeping DLC at a minimum and I only download games I can't get any other way. Oh yeah, DLC games load faster than disc-based games too.

[PimpUigi]

Do you know of a good tutorial explaining everything you have to do? I'll download it soon (tonight?) if I can transfer it to my new PS3 without the lame restrictions like the XBOX 360 thing where you have to be logged in to your account to play it on any other XBOX 360.

I guess I can search google for a tutorial.
I never needed one myself.

And yea, the best thing about it is PSN doesn't have that stupid restriction.
I thought I could buy my friend HD Remix for his 360, and log in as him when I go to other peoples houses to just download it...nope.

And you can only have your account on one Xbox at a time.

I miss Xbox 1, everything was perfect about that.
Xbox 360 is fail box.

[OldSchool]

Except the drive wearing out (HI INTERNAL PRIMATE, CARE TO JOIN!?)

Unless your drive is worn out, the disc has scratches, or it costs significantly more on disc. Believe me, I'm captain of the "I dunno about this DLC" boat, but if it means games will launch at $20-$30 instead of $60 and companies offer significant measures to make sure you keep the game forever, I can deal with it. It's only really a problem if you like to sell/trade games or often sell systems, which I don't do, so it's not an issue for me. For the time being, though, I am keeping DLC at a minimum and I only download games I can't get any other way. Oh yeah, DLC games load faster than disc-based games too.

Which system are you referring to as far as the drive wearing out?
Even at $20-30, it's still a rip off that one doesn't get a physical disc and a box.

For Console perhaps, but not for a game that's installed on PC.

[Knuckle Duster]

ITT: Selective ignorance, padding long winded posts to justify condescending remarks & troll bait.

[17daysolderthannes]

I guess I can search google for a tutorial.
I never needed one myself.

And yea, the best thing about it is PSN doesn't have that stupid restriction.
I thought I could buy my friend HD Remix for his 360, and log in as him when I go to other peoples houses to just download it...nope.

And you can only have your account on one Xbox at a time.

I miss Xbox 1, everything was perfect about that.
Xbox 360 is fail box.

I just want to know how it works exactly so I know if it meets my criteria for being "easy" and "effective".

i.e. how is it that you can download it on multiple systems at the same time? do you have to be logged in/online on all but the original system? Are PS3 accounts linked to a particular PS3? questions like that I want answered before I go making an account and downloading only to find I'm stuck having to be online like you have to on XBOX 360 if you aren't on the original 360.


Which system are you referring to as far as the drive wearing out?
Even at $20-30, it's still a rip off that one doesn't get a physical disc and a box.

For Console perhaps, but not for a game that's installed on PC.

Any of them. XBOX 360 is horrendous as far as drive reliability is concerned, especially if you have a Hitachi drive. Physical discs are nice for archival, but boxes are really overrated. Woo, a generic plastic DVD case and a 10¢ paper insert, SIGN ME UP! Personally, I would prefer if I could back the games up on my computer or something. Still, I don't see how half price is a ripoff, especially if you're the kind of person that would trade it in to GameStop for $5 in a few years. I do collect, so I do like physical discs and cases, but when I move to NYC I won't have room for that and I'll have to leave most of my collection at my parent's house. So for me, DLC is almost a necessity (again, if prices are reasonable). My biggest concern is guaranteed future proof ownership, once that is addressed, DLC is fine with me.

OK, fine, back to the PC thing again. I've already explained why PC will never be cheaper than console when all sides are taken into account [/argument]


ITT: Selective ignorance, padding long winded posts to justify condescending remarks & troll bait.

who are you even insulting here?

[PimpUigi]

PC's are cheaper than consoles.
Every single PC game is free the second it comes out.
LOL![/PC jokes]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network/the-psn-download-limit/m-p/37371817

Apparently it's a 5 different PS3's limit.
You may be able to call Sony to get around it an extra time...

Personally I think 5 is a fair amount.

It's more than 360's one while technically infinite.

[Knuckle Duster]

who are you even insulting here?

Nobody. Unless you feel 'insulted' for someone insinuating that you're a troll after you continually write entire novellas, dedicated to explaining why one group of people are inferior to another.


PC's are cheaper than consoles.
Every single PC game is free the second it comes out.
LOL![/PC jokes]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network/the-psn-download-limit/m-p/37371817

Apparently it's a 5 different PS3's limit.
You may be able to call Sony to get around it an extra time...

Personally I think 5 is a fair amount.

It's more than 360's one while technically infinite.

AFAIK it was 5 active consoles. PSP or PS3.
You can deactivate & reactivate a different console.

[PimpUigi]

Ah, that explains the activate/deactivate console option I've seen a few times.

Sweet!

[Knuckle Duster]

Ah, that explains the activate/deactivate console option I've seen a few times.

Sweet!

I've never done it myself, and apparently Sony have been cracking down on shared accounts that violate the EULA. How exactly, is another question. I can see them pulling support for it entirely in the future to be lazy.

[PimpUigi]

That's lame.
And IMHO Sony is the definition of lazy, so that worries me.

[17daysolderthannes]

Ah, that explains the activate/deactivate console option I've seen a few times.

Sweet!

Sounds like they took a page from the way iTunes works with iPhones, etc. You can activate up to either 3 or 5 computers and put it on up 3 or 5 devices (I don't remember the actual number). I think the point is for people that have multiple PS3s in one house and would complain about not being able to use their DLC on any system vs. a disc that could be used anywhere. Honestly, I'd be fine with one system as long as I can deactivate one system and switch to a new system with no limit on downloads of the game.


I've never done it myself, and apparently Sony have been cracking down on shared accounts that violate the EULA. How exactly, is another question. I can see them pulling support for it entirely in the future to be lazy.

I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to download it on a friend's PS3. I don't want them dicking around with my account. My account will stay on my PS3 and nowhere else. They probably detect violations by two different modems playing online at the same time.

[PimpUigi]

You have to have the password to log on to the account every time, unless of course you save it, but yea, that'd be dumb.

[OldSchool]

Any of them. XBOX 360 is horrendous as far as drive reliability is concerned, especially if you have a Hitachi drive. Physical discs are nice for archival, but boxes are really overrated. Woo, a generic plastic DVD case and a 10¢ paper insert, SIGN ME UP! Personally, I would prefer if I could back the games up on my computer or something. Still, I don't see how half price is a ripoff, especially if you're the kind of person that would trade it in to GameStop for $5 in a few years. I do collect, so I do like physical discs and cases, but when I move to NYC I won't have room for that and I'll have to leave most of my collection at my parent's house. So for me, DLC is almost a necessity (again, if prices are reasonable). My biggest concern is guaranteed future proof ownership, once that is addressed, DLC is fine with me.

You don't?... If I can buy a game SEALED in a BOX for $5-10, and you're spending $20-30 for a digital file with NO box and NO physical media, then you're getting shafted.... not to mention that I have the right to make a backup copy of my DvD while you have ZERO right to make a backup of your digital purchase to any medium.

Only Morons do that.


Fair point in regard to space... but that ^ still remains true.

[Knuckle Duster]

I have the right to make a backup copy of my DvD while you have ZERO right to make a backup of your digital purchase to any medium.

Says who? The EULA? It's not legally binding. Unless you're violating copyright by providing a financial loss to the company (sharing pirated content), they don't give a shit if you back up what you paid for with Digital Distribution.

You can back up your content quite easily for Xbox, PS3, Wii, & various PC Digital Distribution platforms.

The only issue arises from having a client able to run the content in the future. (What if my Wii is dead!/What if Steam isn't around!/What if the sky falls on my head and crushes me!) This is the same ridiculous argument I see by looking at DOS games CIB on floppy discs from 20 years ago. ("Oh yeah, owning a magnetic strip with game code that won't run on any modern PC without 'NEW CLIENTS' is waaaay better than owning a digital file I had to burn on a disc myself!" :roll:)

[17daysolderthannes]

You don't?... If I can buy a game SEALED in a BOX for $5-10, and you're spending $20-30 for a digital file with NO box and NO physical media, then you're getting shafted.... not to mention that I have the right to make a backup copy of my DvD while you have ZERO right to make a backup of your digital purchase to any medium.

Only Morons do that.


Fair point in regard to space... but that ^ still remains true.

You apparently aren't listening. If a game is $60 RIGHT NOW, $30 RIGHT NOW for a DLC version is HALF THE PRICE. If you can buy a physical copy for $5 vs. $30 for DLC, no shit that's a better deal. If companies start adopting the iTunes model, DLC often won't cost more than $10.

As for making backups, shit yeah you can make a backup! Actually, making a DVD backup IS illegal if they have anti-copy measures implemented whereas making copies of DLC isn't because the security measures are usually from being tied to the computer or having to be logged into an account, etc. Either way, knowing how things have worked so far, once the download is considered obsolete and no longer available, pirate sites and torrents will start cropping up with hacked versions to replace your missing purchased DLC. Remember the Famicom Disk System? that was technically all DLC (you brought the disc to a store and they copied the game onto it for you), but people have ripped all of the games to digital files and now they're no different than NES ROMs. Like I keep saying, I like discs too, but if there's no choice and the price is low enough, I can deal. Oh, and have you forgotten that many companies are now employing limited-install registration? Spore only lets you install 3 times and then you have a coaster and you can bet many others are going to follow.


Says who? The EULA? It's not legally binding. Unless you're violating copyright by providing a financial loss to the company (sharing pirated content), they don't give a shit if you back up what you paid for with Digital Distribution.

You can back up your content quite easily for Xbox, PS3, Wii, & various PC Digital Distribution platforms.

The only issue arises from having a client able to run the content in the future. (What if my Wii is dead!/What if Steam isn't around!/What if the sky falls on my head and crushes me!) This is the same ridiculous argument I see by looking at DOS games CIB on floppy discs from 20 years ago. ("Oh yeah, owning a magnetic strip with game code that won't run on any modern PC without 'NEW CLIENTS' is waaaay better than owning a digital file I had to burn on a disc myself!" :roll:)

How do you backup PS3 DLC? can you copy it to a large flash drive? I'd definitely be interested in backing up all of my DLC games (and when I say "all of them" I mean the 4 or 5 I might get in the life of the console) on my external hard drive for my computer.

[OldSchool]

You apparently aren't listening. If a game is $60 RIGHT NOW, $30 RIGHT NOW for a DLC version is HALF THE PRICE. If you can buy a physical copy for $5 vs. $30 for DLC, no shit that's a better deal. If companies start adopting the iTunes model, DLC often won't cost more than $10.

As for making backups, shit yeah you can make a backup! Actually, making a DVD backup IS illegal if they have anti-copy measures implemented whereas making copies of DLC isn't because the security measures are usually from being tied to the computer or having to be logged into an account, etc. Either way, knowing how things have worked so far, once the download is considered obsolete and no longer available, pirate sites and torrents will start cropping up with hacked versions to replace your missing purchased DLC. Remember the Famicom Disk System? that was technically all DLC (you brought the disc to a store and they copied the game onto it for you), but people have ripped all of the games to digital files and now they're no different than NES ROMs. Like I keep saying, I like discs too, but if there's no choice and the price is low enough, I can deal. Oh, and have you forgotten that many companies are now employing limited-install registration? Spore only lets you install 3 times and then you have a coaster and you can bet many others are going to follow.

For starters, I don't usually buy games when they're new so this doesn't apply to me in the slightest but I see where YOU'RE coming from now.

doubt it, lol... I've seen the literature in some of these PS2 and Wii games manuals... you aren't allowed to make backup copies of those hard copies so why in the world would you be allowed to do it with a digital copy...

Every PC game of mine that I've read the User License Agreement for states that I'm allowed to make 'a' backup copy purely for Archival Purposes.

If you wish to rely on such methods in order to be able to play your game come the day you lose your downloaded game and the Pub goes out of business, then that is YOUR business. Not my cup of tea though...

Nope... and don't care to.


If there's a choice between DLC and not owning the game, I decide to not own the game so there's ALWAYS a choice.


Again with that sad argument? I took a giant shit on that last time you brough that up... I can count the PC games I own that have such a requirment on my hands and all of them have had that restriction lifted thankfully. Spore ain't one of 'em either, lol.


Says who? The EULA? It's not legally binding. Unless you're violating copyright by providing a financial loss to the company (sharing pirated content), they don't give a shit if you back up what you paid for with Digital Distribution.

You can back up your content quite easily for Xbox, PS3, Wii, & various PC Digital Distribution platforms.

The only issue arises from having a client able to run the content in the future. (What if my Wii is dead!/What if Steam isn't around!/What if the sky falls on my head and crushes me!) This is the same ridiculous argument I see by looking at DOS games CIB on floppy discs from 20 years ago. ("Oh yeah, owning a magnetic strip with game code that won't run on any modern PC without 'NEW CLIENTS' is waaaay better than owning a digital file I had to burn on a disc myself!" :roll:)

If I'm wrong and you can backup your DLC, then I'm wrong. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.


Paying the same price for DLC which comes with no disc and no box as a game in a Box with a Disc and sometimes a manual doesn't work for me.

It's your money, do whateverTF you want with it... just don't expect me to follow your lead because I'm not a follower.

[Knuckle Duster]

If there wasn't a ton of storage options available to PS3, you could always remove the HDD and backup the image in a PC. Nothing is worthy of the: "LOLZOMG ILLEGAL BACKUPS WITHOUT RIGHTS!" that gets thrown around all the time.

Like I said, everybody's always barking up the wrong tree. Support public domain laws to enable DRM cracking on old clients or required openness from offical sources, not piracy for the sake of it being old and inferior. Otherwise you're a hypocrite, circle jerking reform for better consumer rights, while removing yourself from legitimacy in the argument.


Seriously.

Everyone 'Complains' about the state of the industry. Saying they actually 'Care' yet all they do is piss and moan about it, and point to piracy as an alternative. Rather than proactively push for reform.

It's a circle jerk. It's tiresome stupidity.
Get legitimately proactive about it or fuck off, I say.

[17daysolderthannes]

It's a circle jerk. It's tiresome stupidity.
Get legitimately proactive about it or fuck off, I say.

You keep saying this, but what is your great plan to achieve this? You haven't once given an effective way to express our concern in any way that makes a shit bit of difference. Unless you have some great plan that works out better, the only way to prevent DLC tyranny is boycotting.

[Knuckle Duster]

You keep saying this, but what is your great plan to achieve this? You haven't once given an effective way to express our concern in any way that makes a shit bit of difference. Unless you have some great plan that works out better, the only way to prevent DLC tyranny is boycotting.

Justifying piracy as a reason to complain != Boycotting with the intent to change anything.

I'm not proposing anything, other than saying to shut the fuck up and stop complaining over and over again if you DON'T intend to get proactive about it.

It's fairly obvious what needs to be done, lobbying law makers until something happens. That won't happen because nobody really cares...yet the bitching continues.

[Roussimoff]

I once tore a "DO NOT REMOVE UNDER PENALTY OF LAW" tag from a mattress I had...I only hope that I did not in some way do harm to the fine peoples at Sealey and Simmons....

With the state of world affairs, the crumbling democratic state, the rampant surge in every conceiveable form of cruelty and abuse, and the rapidly coming final days of planet earth, I cannot believe that anyone honestly gives a flying FUCK about something so utterly inane as "video game piracy"....my god...tsk tsk...I personally couldnt give a fly's balls LESS if some 'developer' has enough stored for the coming fiscal year to buy a fifth BMW, or if the CEO of Sony can get a hard-on, really now, c'mon kids...have FUN for god's sake!! Video games are a form of escape and pleasure for me, not my reason for feeling guilt-ridden and angry/sad...

ARGHHHHH M8s!! ;) :love:

[Melf]

I swear to God, if we have this "PC vs..." argument in yet ANOTHER thread, someone's getting permabanned. We have a thread for that already.

I don't know about DLC on the PS3. With what Capcom pulled with Final Fight: Double Impact, I'm more inclined to get it on the 360. Granted, that's the only game this has happened with, but it might be the start of something.

Personally, I don't believe the whole "DLC is cheaper because there's no overhead" argument. DLC has gotten progressively more expensive on consoles in the last two years, and now companies like EA are pulling shit like and "extended demos" for $10 or $15.

[Knuckle Duster]

We have a thread for that already.
To be fair ...

It's locked. :p

[17daysolderthannes]

I swear to God, if we have this "PC vs..." argument in yet ANOTHER thread, someone's getting permabanned. We have a thread for that already.

Well, in this case it was DLC related and somewhat relevant, though unnecessary as console vs. PC is like Baptist vs. Catholic: similar disciplines, but no one's budging.



I don't know about DLC on the PS3. With what Capcom pulled with Final Fight: Double Impact, I'm more inclined to get it on the 360. Granted, that's the only game this has happened with, but it might be the start of something.

Who said it won't have the same restriction on the 360? Still, I must say, the only reason I would buy/play FF is to play online, so it's practically moot. Otherwise, I'd be playing the Sega CD version either in Fusion or on my actual Sega CD.



Personally, I don't believe the whole "DLC is cheaper because there's no overhead" argument. DLC has gotten progressively more expensive on consoles in the last two years, and now companies like EA are pulling shit like and "extended demos" for $10 or $15.

Do you mean "I don't believe DLC is cheaper" as in "I don't see how it saves companies money" or "I don't believe DLC is cheaper" as in "It should be cheaper, but it isn't"?

In theory, DLC should allow game developers (you really don't even need a publisher) to sell games solely to cover the cost of development since there is no markup from publishers, cost of manufacture of the game, wholesalers, retailers, etc. This would mean a $60 game could easily be sold for $10-$20 new instead, perhaps even less than that, and still make the developers (the people that deserve the money) just as much money (or more since cheaper games usually means more sales if quality is the same). In reality, however, I think people reliant on physical copies are instilling restrictions to keep DLC from dominating physical copies. I know in the case of iTunes the record companies mandate that a full CD cost as much on iTunes as a physical disc, thus making an MP3 download kinda stupid when you could get a nice disc with album artwork that you can archive on a shelf in addition to ripping to your computer (if it doesn't have DRM, which MP3s usually have as well). So, until places like Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, etc and all of the manufacturers and publishers are willing to bow out of the music/movie/video game/software market, DLC is going to kinda be stuck in a "gotta charge alot because we have to" conundrum, except in the case of My iPhone My iPhone my iPhone!

[Melf]

Who said it won't have the same restriction on the 360? Still, I must say, the only reason I would buy/play FF is to play online, so it's practically moot. Otherwise, I'd be playing the Sega CD version either in Fusion or on my actual Sega CD.

I have it on 360, and AFAIK, it doesn't have that restriction. The drop in/out co-op player is worth it to me, as is having Magic Sword there. Not a bad set for $8.


Do you mean "I don't believe DLC is cheaper" as in "I don't see how it saves companies money" or "I don't believe DLC is cheaper" as in "It should be cheaper, but it isn't"?

It should be cheaper, but it's getting more expensive. That's the opposite of the whole spiel they gave us about it when it started on consoles. Now, I'm not talking about PC here, only consoles.


So, until places like Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, etc and all of the manufacturers and publishers are willing to bow out of the music/movie/video game/software market, DLC is going to kinda be stuck in a "gotta charge alot because we have to" conundrum, except in the case of My iPhone My iPhone my iPhone!

Square/Enix's new iPhone RPG costs $13. That's actually more expensive than most WiiWare/VC, XBLA and PSN games. Think it might be a one-time thing?

[17daysolderthannes]

Well, Melf, like I said, we all need to draw the line with DLC and speak with our wallets, there's nothing else we can do. Also, wasn't the WiiWare Final Fantasy game $15? still more...though I do know for a fact that Mirror's Edge for iPhone, which is basically Canabalt with graphical flash, is $15. *Sigh*

[OldSchool]

I swear to God, if we have this "PC vs..." argument in yet ANOTHER thread, someone's getting permabanned. We have a thread for that already.

I don't know about DLC on the PS3. With what Capcom pulled with Final Fight: Double Impact, I'm more inclined to get it on the 360. Granted, that's the only game this has happened with, but it might be the start of something.

Personally, I don't believe the whole "DLC is cheaper because there's no overhead" argument. DLC has gotten progressively more expensive on consoles in the last two years, and now companies like EA are pulling shit like and "extended demos" for $10 or $15.

You don't? Why?


To be fair ...

It's locked. :p

yup

:rolls eyes:


It should be cheaper, but it's getting more expensive. That's the opposite of the whole spiel they gave us about it when it started on consoles. Now, I'm not talking about PC here, only consoles.

How?


Quantify your statements, mr. "admin/know it all".

[snakesqzns]

Anyone get the Monkey Island remake on PSN? How is it?

[gamevet]

How do you backup PS3 DLC? can you copy it to a large flash drive? I'd definitely be interested in backing up all of my DLC games (and when I say "all of them" I mean the 4 or 5 I might get in the life of the console) on my external hard drive for my computer.

You can backup every file on your PS3 with an external HDD. It's one reason why I love how Sony has handled DLC and files in general. It's not a good thing if your PS3 completely dies, but it's a great option should your PS3 HDD fail.

[Melf]

Quantify your statements, mr. "admin/know it all".

Or what, you'll derail another thread?

DLC on consoles has gotten progressively more expensive in the past two years. Here's some examples:

- On Xbox 360, Live Arcade games began at 400 points, then moved to 800, and now they're often reaching 1200 points.

- EA is now going to eliminate free demos and offer extended ones that you have to pay to play.

- Things like avatars and themes are now practically all premium, when they used to be free or much cheaper.

The only excuse for this is that people buy, so companies get away with it. There's no reason at all why DLC should go up in price.

[InternalPrimate]

Or what, you'll derail another thread?

DLC on consoles has gotten progressively more expensive in the past two years. Here's some examples:

- On Xbox 360, Live Arcade games began at 400 points, then moved to 800, and now they're often reaching 1200 points.

- EA is now going to eliminate free demos and offer extended ones that you have to pay to play.

- Things like avatars and themes are now practically all premium, when they used to be free or much cheaper.

The only excuse for this is that people buy, so companies get away with it. There's no reason at all why DLC should go up in price.


Just a quick example: The Stimulus Map Pack for Modern Warfare 2 is $15. Yes, it's so ironic it makes you want to laugh. Not only that, but it contains five maps, three new maps, and two classics. Sure, the classics are fun, but $5 per new map? That's just ridiculous. I still haven't purchased it, and I love the series.

[OldSchool]

DLC on consoles has gotten progressively more expensive in the past two years. Here's some examples:

- On Xbox 360, Live Arcade games began at 400 points, then moved to 800, and now they're often reaching 1200 points.

- EA is now going to eliminate free demos and offer extended ones that you have to pay to play.

- Things like avatars and themes are now practically all premium, when they used to be free or much cheaper.

The only excuse for this is that people buy, so companies get away with it. There's no reason at all why DLC should go up in price.

Fair enough... all the more reason 'not' to support DLC.


Just a quick example: The Stimulus Map Pack for Modern Warfare 2 is $15. Yes, it's so ironic it makes you want to laugh. Not only that, but it contains five maps, three new maps, and two classics. Sure, the classics are fun, but $5 per new map? That's just ridiculous. I still haven't purchased it, and I love the series.

Lol... that's sick... and yet people support it.

:|

[17daysolderthannes]

OK, back on topic:

I know we've already covered that the PS3 can be backed up to an external hard drive, but what if I don't want to back up EVERYTHING?

If I play through a game on my Dad's PS3 with my own user name, can I transfer my account and saves ONLY with a flash drive and not be hit with any "activate/deactivate" riff raff (in other words, dropped down to 3 more available PS3s instead of 4 for DLC, etc.)?

[gamevet]

Firmware update 3.15 made it possible to transfer your save files from one PS3 to another.

http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Online/ps3-firmware-3-15-update-is-now-available/

[17daysolderthannes]

Firmware update 3.15 made it possible to transfer your save files from one PS3 to another.

http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Online/ps3-firmware-3-15-update-is-now-available/

yeah, but that's for a full system transfer, which I wouldn't be able to do (nor would I want to) because I plan on buying my PS3 in New York and I can't ethernet the two if I do that.

I looked in the manual and it says you can go to a game save and then go to "copy" and copy the save to an external ?drive?, but I plugged in a flash drive and it wouldn't recognize it, it just kept saying something to the effect of "plug in a drive to copy to". Is there some kind of specifications for a drive to be compatible?

I have some other questions too:

1. If I was to replace the hard drive in a PS3...
a. what standard is it? 2.5" (laptop) SATA?
b. what is the size limit for the PS3?
c. Assuming I did this immediately after purchasing a PS3 (no content transfer), could I just put in the drive and it would automatically try to format it?
d. Should I just opt for the 250GB off-the-shelf PS3? From the looks of things, any larger hard drives are about the same price or more than the extra $50 for the 120->250GB upgrade. Also, are there any other differences between the 120 and 250 GB models? I only plan on using my PS3 for games, Blu Rays, and streaming media, so the hard drive will only have game data on it.

2. Let me see if I have this straight:

a. the Users on a PS3 are kinda like Users in Windows XP and by that I mean it's just to have "your own" save files and settings profiles instead of having to reconfigure everything to your liking or be stepping on other people's feet when it comes to saving games? Are saves attached to that User ID? i.e. if I finally got my saves to copy over to another PS3, could I put them on any user's profile (or, say, copy the saves under my user profile to a "guest" user profile, etc.?)? Also, you can't "log in" as your user name on another PS3, you can only transfer it with a PS3 backup/transfer, yes?

b. The PSN network ID (or whatever it's called) is totally separate from the User ID and is solely for online play and PSN store stuff. All DLC is tied to THIS account (not the User ID). Can you log in with your PSN ID on another PS3 without stepping on the toes of a user profile, etc. (say, on a friend's PS3).

3. What are all the ins and outs of USB controllers? I know you can use them, but people say you can only use them on certain games, etc. How do you know which games support it? Do you just plug it in and go? People keep mentioning the PS3 home button, does that just mean you can't go back to the main PS3 menu without having a PS3 controller synced? If so, how do you do that so it puts your USB controller as controller 1 instead of the synced controller?



I love that PS3 has all this flexibility, but it sure is confusing and vague to get it all sorted out.

Oh yeah, I noticed that with my actual games (not demos) it had to update the game before I could play it (in addition to installing the set data partial install thing). What will happen if Sony stops supporting the PS3? Will these games no longer work if they don't already have the update, or are these updates only for online play (is GTA 4 online?). I will be PISSED if I gather a library of PS3 games only to have PSN stop supporting it and my hard drive crash, thus making me lose all of those updates (if they are mandatory). This is actually very important to me because these games might as well be DLC if a lack of these updates will prevent me from playing games (though I imagine this is not the case since some people never connect their PS3 to the internet).

[gamevet]

yeah, but that's for a full system transfer, which I wouldn't be able to do (nor would I want to) because I plan on buying my PS3 in New York and I can't ethernet the two if I do that.

I looked in the manual and it says you can go to a game save and then go to "copy" and copy the save to an external ?drive?, but I plugged in a flash drive and it wouldn't recognize it, it just kept saying something to the effect of "plug in a drive to copy to". Is there some kind of specifications for a drive to be compatible?

The drive needs to be formatted to FAT32. You can do it with a program called swiss Knife and it will even partition the HDD for use with a PC and PS3.


I have some other questions too:

1. If I was to replace the hard drive in a PS3...
a. what standard is it? 2.5" (laptop) SATA?
b. what is the size limit for the PS3?
c. Assuming I did this immediately after purchasing a PS3 (no content transfer), could I just put in the drive and it would automatically try to format it?
d. Should I just opt for the 250GB off-the-shelf PS3? From the looks of things, any larger hard drives are about the same price or more than the extra $50 for the 120->250GB upgrade. Also, are there any other differences between the 120 and 250 GB models? I only plan on using my PS3 for games, Blu Rays, and streaming media, so the hard drive will only have game data on it.

A 2.5" SATA laptop HDD is what you'll need. I've heard of people putting in a 500GB HDD, but I don't know if it will go beyond that. Once you put the drive in the PS3, it will format it for you.


2. Let me see if I have this straight:

a. the Users on a PS3 are kinda like Users in Windows XP and by that I mean it's just to have "your own" save files and settings profiles instead of having to reconfigure everything to your liking or be stepping on other people's feet when it comes to saving games? Are saves attached to that User ID? i.e. if I finally got my saves to copy over to another PS3, could I put them on any user's profile (or, say, copy the saves under my user profile to a "guest" user profile, etc.?)? Also, you can't "log in" as your user name on another PS3, you can only transfer it with a PS3 backup/transfer, yes?

b. The PSN network ID (or whatever it's called) is totally separate from the User ID and is solely for online play and PSN store stuff. All DLC is tied to THIS account (not the User ID). Can you log in with your PSN ID on another PS3 without stepping on the toes of a user profile, etc. (say, on a friend's PS3).


You'll have to create a user name, before you can log onto PSN with someone elses PS3.

As far as DLC goes, anyone on your PS3 can play those games, but they'll have their own save files. I made up a fake account, disconnected the PS3 from the network and was still able to play Afterburner Climax, but had to create a save file for the new user. You can't even play DLC on a 360, without being signed into LIVE.


3. What are all the ins and outs of USB controllers? I know you can use them, but people say you can only use them on certain games, etc. How do you know which games support it? Do you just plug it in and go? People keep mentioning the PS3 home button, does that just mean you can't go back to the main PS3 menu without having a PS3 controller synced? If so, how do you do that so it puts your USB controller as controller 1 instead of the synced controller?

That's a somewhat tricky question. I do know that I can hook up a USB keyboard to the PS3 and I've hooked up PS2 controllers using a USB adapter as well. My Logitech Pro Driving Force (PS2) works with the USB ports also.






Oh yeah, I noticed that with my actual games (not demos) it had to update the game before I could play it (in addition to installing the set data partial install thing). What will happen if Sony stops supporting the PS3? Will these games no longer work if they don't already have the update, or are these updates only for online play (is GTA 4 online?). I will be PISSED if I gather a library of PS3 games only to have PSN stop supporting it and my hard drive crash, thus making me lose all of those updates (if they are mandatory). This is actually very important to me because these games might as well be DLC if a lack of these updates will prevent me from playing games (though I imagine this is not the case since some people never connect their PS3 to the internet).

I'm not quite sure about the updates, but I don't think a game will ask you to update, unless you're connected to the internet.

[17daysolderthannes]

hmm, I'll try reformatting my flash drive and see if it helps. I mean, it should be in FAT 32 because that's what I formatted it to to try and install Free MC Boot, but the PS2 didn't recognize it either. What's the difference between FAT and FAT32 in Windows? Should I just select FAT and try it? I don't want to buy a full hard drive as save files are only a few MBs and that's all I really care about. Like I said before, though, I can copy save files to other accounts with this, yes?

[gamevet]

You have to name a folder PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGVduImrPM&feature=related

Are you trying to load up save data to fatten you trophy count?

[17daysolderthannes]

You have to name a folder PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGVduImrPM&feature=related

Are you trying to load up save data to fatten you trophy count?

PPFFFTTT!!! fuck no! I don't even know what all that trophy shit is, I could care less about that crap!

I just want to be able to transfer my GTA IV and Mirror's Edge save (can't transfer Skate 2 thanks to it being a locked save) to my new PS3 with no riff raff or lockouts, etc. when I move to NYC.

I'll try again later with a PS3 folder. I knew you would have to something, but the "online manual" is a crock of shit and doesn't cover anything a 5 year old couldn't figure out.

Can you have two save files for the same game in the same user profile? i.e. if I made a user profile, could I download a 100% save from GameFAQs and also have a normal save file to play through the game myself? I want to unlock everything for screwing around yet still play through the game normally. If not, I guess I could make a "guest" account for the 100% saves.

edit: this shit isn't working. I could transfer/copy the saves, but when I try to load the game, it tells me "You did not create this save game data. It cannot be loaded"

So what good is backing up these files if it's just going to reject it on the basis that it's not the exact same profile? Does it just look for profiles with the same name?

double edit: OH MY FUCKING FUCK! The reason it won't let me transfer the files between accounts or use files from GameFAQs is because of that faggot ass trophy nerd shit. FUCK! Thank you nerds for ruining the PS3 for me, thank you. Because some fucktards want to run around bragging about their "video game acheivements", I can't enjoy my game unless I cripple it by shutting off the internet anytime I boot it up (and reinstall the main data at that). Even if I beat it legitimately, I can't transfer it and I can't recover it if my hard drive fails. Sony/Rockstar better fucking fix this horse shit.

OOOOH this makes me mad:

gZEdDMQZaCU

[snakesqzns]

I just got Monkey Island: Special Edition from PSN. It's really a good remake.

It's got a neat feature that when you hit SELECT it switches to the original Monkey Island graphics.

[PimpUigi]

On the controller adapters issue...

My specific PS2 to PS3 adapter lets all * to PS2 controllers work.
The analog button becomes the home button.
This is also the only way I know of to get Xbox 1 controllers to work on the PS3, and it's pretty hard to find the Xbox to PS2 adapter, so I'm glad I have two...

PS2/GC to PC adapter works on the PS3, and so does my Genesis to PS3 adapter, but neither have any home button support...so you have to live without the home button completely in regards to those.

GC/Genesis button placement is all over the place, so you have to hope whatever game you play has fully reassignable buttons.
I wish they would make this an option from the XMB, so then no specific game would have to have many controller options, since most controller options would be in the XMB/Firmware.

Fully configurable controls down to the stick axis should be a reality on consoles by now, especially since it's been a reality on PC's for sooooo long.

[OldSchool]

On the controller adapters issue...

My specific PS2 to PS3 adapter lets all * to PS2 controllers work.
The analog button becomes the home button.
This is also the only way I know of to get Xbox 1 controllers to work on the PS3, and it's pretty hard to find the Xbox to PS2 adapter, so I'm glad I have two...

PS2/GC to PC adapter works on the PS3, and so does my Genesis to PS3 adapter, but neither have any home button support...so you have to live without the home button completely in regards to those.

GC/Genesis button placement is all over the place, so you have to hope whatever game you play has fully reassignable buttons.
I wish they would make this an option from the XMB, so then no specific game would have to have many controller options, since most controller options would be in the XMB/Firmware.

Fully configurable controls down to the stick axis should be a reality on consoles by now, especially since it's been a reality on PC's for sooooo long.

Can I go backwards? Can I buy (say) this new Tournament Edition Super Street Fighter 4 Sanwa Arcade Stick for PS3 and use it on my PS2???

[17daysolderthannes]

Can I go backwards? Can I buy (say) this new Tournament Edition Super Street Fighter 4 Sanwa Arcade Stick for PS3 and use it on my PS2???

nope. PS3 controllers are USB or Bluetooth only. You can't convert USB controllers back to PS2 style controllers (to my knowledge).


On the controller adapters issue...

My specific PS2 to PS3 adapter lets all * to PS2 controllers work.
The analog button becomes the home button.
This is also the only way I know of to get Xbox 1 controllers to work on the PS3, and it's pretty hard to find the Xbox to PS2 adapter, so I'm glad I have two...

PS2/GC to PC adapter works on the PS3, and so does my Genesis to PS3 adapter, but neither have any home button support...so you have to live without the home button completely in regards to those.

GC/Genesis button placement is all over the place, so you have to hope whatever game you play has fully reassignable buttons.
I wish they would make this an option from the XMB, so then no specific game would have to have many controller options, since most controller options would be in the XMB/Firmware.

Fully configurable controls down to the stick axis should be a reality on consoles by now, especially since it's been a reality on PC's for sooooo long.

So is the analog button the home button on all PS2 controllers? Unfortunately, that doesn't help much seeing as all the controllers I want to use are joysticks and such that don't have analog sticks. Do I REALLY need a home button? couldn't I just sync a PS3 controller in addition to the PS2 controller and get back that way?

Oh yeah, and it appears my PS3 slim can make PS2 memory cards in addition to PSX cards, does that mean I could dump saves to a PS2 memory card via my PS3 or backup my PS2 saves to a flash drive and then to my computer? That would be awesome.

[Melf]

All PS3s can make virtual PS2 and PSX memory cards. AFAIK, you can't transfer the data, though I could be wrong.

[gamevet]

All PS3s can make virtual PS2 and PSX memory cards. AFAIK, you can't transfer the data, though I could be wrong.

Sony had a memory card (http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Remote-Controller-and-Memory-Card-Adapter-for-Sony-PS2-to-PS3/4269252/product.html?cid=146609&fp=F&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=12254045) transfer kit you could buy for $14. I pretty much moved all of my PSOne and PS2 files to virtual memory cards on my PS3.

[17daysolderthannes]

Sony had a memory card (http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Remote-Controller-and-Memory-Card-Adapter-for-Sony-PS2-to-PS3/4269252/product.html?cid=146609&fp=F&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=12254045) transfer kit you could buy for $14. I pretty much moved all of my PSOne and PS2 files to virtual memory cards on my PS3.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32275

yep, I know ;)

The question is, can I download something from GameFAQs, put it on a flash drive, put it on my PS3, then use my PS3 to transfer it to a memory card? Also, do you have to back up the whole card/download the whole card or can you transfer individual saves? Worst case, I could just keep a memory card blank, add the full-card save, then transfer individual files on the PS2.

[chrisbid]

software updates have made that transfer kit now work as a standard memory card slot.

[gamevet]

I'm not surprised by that move, since Sony is doing its best to remove any hint that a PS3 could once play PS2 games from a disc.

[OldSchool]

nope. PS3 controllers are USB or Bluetooth only. You can't convert USB controllers back to PS2 style controllers (to my knowledge).

Hmmmm, I just looked at my 9000 Series P2 Slim and it has two USB inputs on the front... might this be usefull in this specific case??

I doubt it has forward compatibility, but maybe the P3 controllers will go backwards which is just as good?

[17daysolderthannes]

Hmmmm, I just looked at my 9000 Series P2 Slim and it has two USB inputs on the front... might this be usefull in this specific case??

I doubt it has forward compatibility, but maybe the P3 controllers will go backwards which is just as good?

Actually, you can easily use PS2 controllers on the PS3 via a super cheap adapter ( http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32611 ), I tried it out last night and it worked great, though the analog button didn't work as the Home button like Pimpuigi said, but I JUST read that start+select works, so I'll have to try that. Either way, you can sync a PS3 controller and go back to the XMB that way and it'll just go to sleep while you use the PS2 controller.

The USB ports on the PS2 were rarely used, the only things I know that use those ports were early USB modems before the network adapter came out, flash drives when used with cheat discs, printers for Gran Turismo photo mode, and the Logitech force feedback steering wheels. I have never heard of a standard controller using those USB ports and all of the joysticks I've seen that claim PS2 compatibility have an actual PS2 plug. Honestly, I say buy all PS2 controllers (they're cheaper anyway) and just keep one actual PS3 controller around for games that use six axis or if that start+select home button thing doesn't work.

[gamevet]

I had a usb Logitech keyboard hooked up to the PS2, so I could type messages while playing Phantasy Star Universe.

[17daysolderthannes]

I had a usb Logitech keyboard hooked up to the PS2, so I could type messages while playing Phantasy Star Universe.

that's true, you can use keyboards too, I actually did that once when I first got it just to check it out. I think you might be able to use USB mice too, if any games support it. Still, primary game controllers don't use that as far as I know.

[OldSchool]

Well shitbeans... I guess in order to get a 2nd "fighting stick" for my PS2 when friends come over, I'm gonna have to go with that cheap $40 stick you'd recommended, 17days.


Thanks, guys for the input
:rock: