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Guntz
02-28-2012, 02:57 PM
The direct sister thread to the Sega CD mfg date/serial no. thread. If you're at all familiar with Sega CDs and have a Saturn and/or Dreamcast, the process of adding to the registry is exactly the same! (unlike Genesis and 32X registries, which would be a bit too difficult for most people).

Information Needed

1) System Model*
2) Manufacture Date
3) Serial Number
4) Does it play backups**? (Dreamcast only)

*And specify if it's a limited edition model, like the Derby Stallion Saturn or Hello Kitty Dreamcast.
**Technically speaking, does it have MIL-CD support? I ask this because some Dreamcasts don't after a specific date and it's interesting statistical information.

UPDATE: In case you can't determine if your Dreamcast can play backups or not, look for a number in a circle near the word "PAL" or "NTSC" on the underside label. If that number is a 0 or a 1, it can play backups. If it's a 2 or higher, it cannot.

Instructions

First up is the Saturn. The Model 1 and 2 are 100% identical in their placement of the mfg date and serial number. I'm aware there are different flavors of the Model 1 and 2 (like the Derby Stallion Saturn) but I can't imagine they'd be any different in their sticker placement. Here's some photos showing where they are found:

Underneath the console:
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9623/dsc04379l.jpg
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7817/dsc04380p.jpg

On the back end of the console, where the expansion door is found:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3363/dsc04381w.jpg

Next is the Dreamcast. Only one model was ever made so theoretically only one set of pictures will be needed. Here's the pictures showing where to find the info:

Underneath the console:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5544/dsc04376n.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5751/dsc04377ax.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9751/dsc04378a.jpg

Now something to note with the serial number on the Dreamcast; don't be surprised if that sticker isn't there. It's made out of cheap paper that can wear away with ease, much like on Game Boy systems. It's okay if the sticker is gone or illegible, the manufacture date is still useful!

The List

Saturn Model 1



April 1995 ------ B5009716 ---- US --- steve4
July 1995 ------- 050048863 --- US --- steve4
August 1995 ----- 051013284 --- US --- Guntz
March 1996 ------ AE62035881 --- US --- SEGACOOL

Unknown -------- 050020249 ---- EU --- bultje112
Unknown -------- 050039208 ---- EU --- bultje112
Unknown -------- AD51016440 --- EU --- bultje112


Saturn Model 2



March 1996 ------- AE62033224 --- US --- SEGA.GENESIS1989
August 1996 ------ AF67013083 --- US --- Lastcallhall
August 1996 ------ AE68073520 --- US --- profholt82
August 1996 ------ AE68073912 --- US --- TrekkiesUnite118
September 1996 --- 067090739 ---- US --- kokujin
October 1997 ----- B7D256479 ---- US --- bgvanbur
Unknown ---------- AD69041546 --- EU --- The Jackal

Unknown ---------- P8F063898 --- Derby Stallion --- US --- Da_Shocker


Dreamcast



May 1999 --------- DU940133738 --- US --- Plays Backups --- steve4
May 1999 --------- DU940351736 --- US --- Plays Backups --- steve4
September 1999 --- DU911071595 --- US --- Plays Backups --- Devil N
September 1999 --- DU965978819 --- US --- Plays Backups --- profholt82
October 1999 ----- DU931466524 --- US --- Plays Backups --- AlecRob
October 1999 ----- DU968439577 --- US --- Plays Backups --- steve4
March 2000 ------- DU06134009 ---- US --- Plays Backups --- Chibisteven
April 2000 ------- DU062359702 --- US --- Plays Backups --- xelement5x
May 2000 --------- DU063686852 --- US --- Plays Backups --- Obviously
May 2000 --------- DU064221540 --- US --- Plays Backups --- kokujin
June 2000 -------- DU000614061 --- US --- Plays Backups --- Lastcallhall
June 2000 -------- DU065632413 --- US --- Plays Backups --- Guntz
June 2000 -------- DU067796298 --- US --- Plays Backups --- TrekkiesUnite118
Unknown ---------- DE010575910 --- EU --- Unknown --------- bultje112
Unknown ---------- DE075134730 --- EU --- Plays Backups --- The Jackal
Unknown ---------- DE974677376 --- EU --- Plays Backups--- bultje112
Unknown ---------- DE975658756 --- EU --- Plays Backups--- bultje112
September 2000 --- DU083361982 --- US --- Plays Backups --- SEGACOOL
September 2000 --- DU084240866 --- US --- Plays Backups --- kokujin

August 2000 ------ DU080201595 --- Sports Edition --- US --- Unknown --- SEGA.GENESIS1989


List updated as of the date and time specified below:

kokujin
02-28-2012, 03:53 PM
Dreamcast
May 2000- DU064221540(plays back ups)
September 2000-DUO84240866(plays back ups)

The Jackal
02-28-2012, 05:30 PM
Okay Guntzy, here's the serial number for my Saturn: AD69041546 (again, like in the Sega Cd thread, there's no sticker that indicates production date on a European machine); the SAT's a model 2. My Dreamcast's serial is DE075134730 (again, no production date). The DC I have can play backups. If it's possible to get a production date from the motherboard of a SAT or DC, I don't mind opening up either of them, but tomorrow would be the latest.

Guntz
02-28-2012, 05:41 PM
Thanks for the entries Jackal. Again I've never owned European Sega hardware before so I don't know where to locate that information. Somebody here will have to eventually figure it out.

Lastcallhall
02-28-2012, 05:48 PM
My Sega Saturn:

System Model: US Model 2
Manufacture Date: August 1996
Model No: MK-80000A
Serial Number: AF 67013083
*Modded to play backups and imports


My Sega Dreamcast:

Manufacturing Date: June, 2000
Serial Number: DU000614061
Can play backups.

Guntz
02-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the entries, list updated. :) The "plays backups" thing only applies to the Dreamcast. The Saturn has to be modded in order to do that. Also the model number isn't needed, it just specifies which Saturn model you have.

kokujin
02-28-2012, 08:29 PM
Saturn

September 1996- 067090739

TrekkiesUnite118
02-28-2012, 08:57 PM
My Saturn:

Model 2
August 1996 - AE68073912

My Dreamcast:
June 2000 - DU067796298

Both are US models.

Guntz
02-28-2012, 11:15 PM
Updated. I trust you have a Model 2 Saturn kokujin? And your Dreamcast plays backups Trekkies?

kokujin
02-29-2012, 12:00 AM
Updated. I trust you have a Model 2 Saturn kokujin? And your Dreamcast plays backups Trekkies?

Yeah, my Saturn is a model 2.

SEGA.GENESIS1989
02-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Another one of these threads? Oh boy! Now you are going to make me work! I'll get you the info in the next day or two! :p

While we're on the topic, what is the purpose of this thread Guntz?

TrekkiesUnite118
02-29-2012, 12:38 AM
I honestly don't know if my Dreamcast plays backups. I haven't had a chance to try. Though I would assume it can since it's from the same production run as ones that can.

Guntz
02-29-2012, 01:19 AM
While we're on the topic, what is the purpose of this thread Guntz?

Once the video game economy tanks, all consoles registered in these threads will be captured and put into VEMA camps where... Oh wait, that was classified information! Oops...

... In all seriousness though, I've seen this kind of thing done on other forums and the statistical information is very intruiging. These lists could also prove useful in identifying dates in history where a hardware revision took place and things like that.

@Trekkies: That's okay. See? The list is helping already!

Posted painstakingly from my Nintendo 3DS

Da_Shocker
02-29-2012, 09:11 AM
Derby Stallion Saturn
Model No. HST-3220
Serial No. P8F063898
Made in Japan
No manufacturing date

I have black sports DC and a regular one somewhere in my closet.

Moirai
02-29-2012, 09:26 AM
My Dreamcast:

Manufactured: October 1999.
Serial number: DU931466524.
Made in Japan.
Plays Backups/MIL-CD's

Guntz
02-29-2012, 12:07 PM
Awesome, the entries are much appreciated. List updated. :)

Since I don't know whether the Derby Stallion is directly derivative of the Model 1 or Model 2, I'm gonna put it in it's own section. Strange how neither the European or Japanese systems mention their manufacturing date. The only other way to check would be to open the system up and inspect the plastic shell halves and the motherboard for signs.

And so far AlecRob has the oldest Dreamcast.

xelement5x
02-29-2012, 12:25 PM
I was told before (though I question the accuracy), that the number in the circle in front of the NTSC is part of the revision or manufacture batch or something. I was told that the Dreamcasts which have a 2 or 3 (I can't remember which) are the last ones produced and are those that can't play backups.

None of this has ever been substantiated by me but it's still an interesting hypothesis.

TrekkiesUnite118
02-29-2012, 12:28 PM
If I remember correctly the Skeleton Saturn and Derby Saturn's are just Model 2 Saturns with transparent cases. Though I have heard one of them has an issue playing Space Harrier.

Devil N
03-01-2012, 05:01 AM
My Dreamcast:

System Model: US Model HKT-3020
Manufacture Date: September 1999
Serial Number: DU911071595
Does it play backups: It's chipped, so it plays anything I throw at it, but I'm pretty sure it's MIL-CD compatible.
Made in Japan.

Guntz
03-01-2012, 01:01 PM
I was told before (though I question the accuracy), that the number in the circle in front of the NTSC is part of the revision or manufacture batch or something. I was told that the Dreamcasts which have a 2 or 3 (I can't remember which) are the last ones produced and are those that can't play backups.

None of this has ever been substantiated by me but it's still an interesting hypothesis.

Interesting... Though it'd be nice to know the technical significance of that number.

From what I gather, MIL-CD-less Dreamcasts started being manufactured in September or October 2000... Can't remember for certain and I'm not sure how reliable that information is either. That's why it'd be nice to have a Dreamcast registry to find out for ourselves where that turning point is in Dreamcast production.


If I remember correctly the Skeleton Saturn and Derby Saturn's are just Model 2 Saturns with transparent cases. Though I have heard one of them has an issue playing Space Harrier.

Okay, thought so. I'll leave a space between the regular Model 2s and put the special editions below for now, Da_Shocker's entry still says "Derby Stallion" in it.


My Dreamcast:

System Model: US Model HKT-3020
Manufacture Date: September 1999
Serial Number: DU911071595
Does it play backups: It's chipped, so it plays anything I throw at it, but I'm pretty sure it's MIL-CD compatible.
Made in Japan.

Thanks. For a Dreamcast that old I'm sure it's MIL-CD compatible. Interesting you imported one though.

TmEE
03-01-2012, 01:46 PM
For DC, there is a number inside a circle near PAL or NTSC, if its 0 or 1 then it plays burned CDs, if its 2 it won't. It corresponds to mobo version.

Devil N
03-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Thanks. For a Dreamcast that old I'm sure it's MIL-CD compatible. Interesting you imported one though.
I'll tell you why. Some years ago, Lik-Sang had received a bucketload of refurbished and modded US Dreamcasts that they were selling for cheap. At the time I was pretty fed up with European consoles, mostly because of poor PAL conversions and late releases (neither of which are really a problem for the Dreamcast, but whatever), so I liked the idea of having a Dreamcast that would eat everything I'd throw at it guaranteed. What I didn't realize when I ordered it though, was that shipping through DHL and import customs would increase the price by about 30%, making it a whole lot more expensive than I had initially expected. But I can't say I've ever regretted buying this baby.

steve4
03-02-2012, 08:13 PM
Saturn Model 1:
Serial No.: B5 009716
Manufacture Date: April, 1995

Serial No.: 050048863
Manufacture Date: July, 1995

Dreamcast:
Serial No.: DU940133738
Manufacture Date: May, 1999
Plays Backups
*This console has a different sticker placement and has no modem

Guntz
03-03-2012, 02:04 AM
@TmEE: Thanks for the information. :)

@Devil N: Interesting story. I've never imported a console before.

@steve4: Thanks for the entries. So far you have the oldest Model 1 Saturn and Dreamcast. I though the latter was released in Fall '99...

About the modem, does it still have the port for the Modem or is that whole corner filled in? Can you take a picture?

steve4
03-03-2012, 11:12 AM
@steve4: Thanks for the entries. So far you have the oldest Model 1 Saturn and Dreamcast. I though the latter was released in Fall '99...

The Dreamcast was released in fall 1999, but hollywood video started renting consoles in July, which is where my console may have come from.




About the modem, does it still have the port for the Modem or is that whole corner filled in? Can you take a picture?

There is a plastic piece that fills in the space for the modem

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg17/scaled.php?server=17&filename=dsc00071au.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg191/scaled.php?server=191&filename=dsc00074tq.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg577/scaled.php?server=577&filename=dsc00075fg.jpg&res=medium

Guntz
03-03-2012, 01:33 PM
Wow, that's pretty interesting. I suppose that plastic thing was used until the Modem was bundled with the system?

Knuckle Duster
03-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Wow, that's pretty interesting. I suppose that plastic thing was used until the Modem was bundled with the system?

I had a launch Dreamcast that was originally a rental unit at a video store. It had the plastic piece instead of the modem too.

xelement5x
03-03-2012, 07:03 PM
Yeah, as far as I know all Dreamcast units that were sold retail in the US came bundled with the 56k modem. That little plastic block instead of a modem is an interesting caveat as I've never seen one before.

Here's the info on my thrift Dreamcast:
DU062359702; April 2000

profholt82
03-03-2012, 10:58 PM
Saturn, I believe it's a standard Model 2, the model is MK-8000A.
serial- AE68073520, date- Aug 96

Dreamcast HKT-3020, I've never tried to play backups on it.
serial- DU965978819, date- Sep 99

Guntz
03-03-2012, 10:58 PM
I had a launch Dreamcast that was originally a rental unit at a video store. It had the plastic piece instead of the modem too.


Yeah, as far as I know all Dreamcast units that were sold retail in the US came bundled with the 56k modem. That little plastic block instead of a modem is an interesting caveat as I've never seen one before.

Indeed, very peculiar. It'd be interesting to know what it's purpose is and when it might have been included on Dreamcasts... You guys are positive these are US Dreamcasts?


Here's the info on my thrift Dreamcast:
DU062359702; April 2000

Thanks, added to the list. :)

@proftholt82: Thanks for the entries. :D I think it's becoming clear that at least as far as the Saturn Model 2 is concerned, the serial numbers are indeed sequential. Just look at your Model 2's serial compared to Trekkies's. They are very, very close.

profholt82
03-03-2012, 11:10 PM
I admittedly know very little about DC hardware, but IIRC there was a revision. Some models are a darker grey and others are whiter. The darker models are heavier as well. Maybe I'm crazy, but I seem to remember this. I'm not talking about any special additions either, these were just the standard stock DCs. I don't have any factual evidence of this at the moment, but I know I've read it somewhere before, and I believe the current unit I own is heavier than the one I had back during the DC's original lifespan. Can anyone here elaborate on this, or am I just talking crazy?

Guntz
03-03-2012, 11:27 PM
No, I vaguely remember such a thing as "darker gray" and "whiter" Dreamcasts. Not sure where I read that though. I didn't pay much mind to it since I only owned one Dreamcast.

Perhaps somebody with a 1999, or close to launch Dreamcast and someone with a late era Dreamcast (as close to 2001 as possible) could each take pictures of their systems in good lighting? If this plastic color thing is real, I for one would want to see how subtle or stark the contrast is between the two.

Not sure if my Dreamcast would work in a comparison like that though, it's in the middle of 2000.

TrekkiesUnite118
03-04-2012, 12:25 AM
Indeed, very peculiar. It'd be interesting to know what it's purpose is and when it might have been included on Dreamcasts... You guys are positive these are US Dreamcasts?



Thanks, added to the list. :)

@proftholt82: Thanks for the entries. :D I think it's becoming clear that at least as far as the Saturn Model 2 is concerned, the serial numbers are indeed sequential. Just look at your Model 2's serial compared to Trekkies's. They are very, very close.

That is pretty neat. Are you the original owner of your Saturn proftholt? If so what region did you buy it in. If we find close serial numbers were bought in similar regions it might be an interesting way to tell where a system was originally shipped to as well as an idea of which regions got more Saturn exposure.

Mine was bought in the Saint Charles/South Elgin region of Illinois.

steve4
03-09-2012, 09:48 PM
I admittedly know very little about DC hardware, but IIRC there was a revision. Some models are a darker grey and others are whiter. The darker models are heavier as well. Maybe I'm crazy, but I seem to remember this. I'm not talking about any special additions either, these were just the standard stock DCs. I don't have any factual evidence of this at the moment, but I know I've read it somewhere before, and I believe the current unit I own is heavier than the one I had back during the DC's original lifespan. Can anyone here elaborate on this, or am I just talking crazy?

Earlier models of the DC had a different cooling system, like this one.

http://www.gamesx.com/dreamcast/mainboard.jpg

SEGA.GENESIS1989
03-09-2012, 10:08 PM
SEGA Dreamcast - Sport's edition - Manufacture date: August 2000 - Model #: DU080201595 - North American console manufactured in Japan

SEGA Saturn - Model 2 - Manufacture Date: March 1996 - Model #: AE62033224 - North American console manufactured in Japan

steve4
03-15-2012, 09:50 PM
Just picked up another Dreamcast today
Serial No.: DU968439577
Manufacture Date: October 1999
Plays Backups

Guntz
03-15-2012, 10:34 PM
List updated, thanks.

Chibisteven
03-16-2012, 02:16 AM
Model: HKT-3020
Color: Standard Gray Model
Region: NTSC-U (1)
Made In China
Serial Number: DU06134009
Manufactured: March 2000

Note: I broken alot of Dreamcasts when I younger, I had my first one Christmas 1999 and got my last one in October 2000 (the only one I still have).

Guntz
03-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Thanks, list updated. :)

Guntz
04-01-2012, 03:47 AM
Bump.

bgvanbur
04-01-2012, 08:50 PM
I bought my first Sega Saturn today!

US Sega Saturn
Model 2 (MK-80000A)
Serial: B7D 256479
October 1997

Guntz
04-02-2012, 09:56 PM
Updated, thanks!

Moirai
04-02-2012, 10:03 PM
Whats the latest/newest Sega saturn ever made?

Moirai
04-25-2012, 05:26 PM
Just got a Saturn!

Manufactured:

July, 1996

MODEL NO.: MK-80000A

Serial No. 065037446


So I heard the Saturn was discontinued on April 3, 1999 in the united states (according to Sega Retro). Has anybody ever seen a US saturn with a 1999 Manufacture date?

TrekkiesUnite118
04-25-2012, 05:28 PM
I don't think they exist for the US. Most likely from about 1998 on they were just selling old stock they had build up to that point.

Now you might find Japanese Saturn's with 1998 and possibly 1999 manufacturing dates.

Guntz
05-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Bump

Hidden_Darkness
05-22-2012, 09:34 PM
i've got a couple saturn's and dreamcast's to post up, i'll post the info for those in a little while.

bultje112
05-24-2012, 03:01 PM
Model: no. HKT-3030
Color: Standard Gray Model, is now brown and yellow decolored like a snes
Region: Pal (bought during release 99)
Made In Indonesia
Serial Number: DE974677376
Manufactured: ?? can't find that

next:
Model: no. HKT-3030
Color: Standard Gray Model, still looks good
Region: Pal (bought 2nd hand in 2002)
Made In Indonesia
Serial Number: DE975658756
Manufactured: ?? can't find that again

3rd dreamcast:
Model: no. HKT-3030
Color: Standard Gray Model, looks good still
Region: Pal (bought 2nd hand in 2012)
Made In Japan
Serial Number: DE010575910
Manufactured: ?? can't find that

all dreamcasts play backups



saturn 1:
Model 1
Manufactured: no idea
Made in Taiwan
MODEL NO: MK-80200-50
Serial No. 050039208

saturn 2:
Model 1
Manufactured: no idea
Made in Taiwan
MODEL NO: MK-80200-50
Serial No. 050020249

saturn 3:
Model 1
Manufactured: no idea
Made in Indonesia
MODEL NO: MK-80200-50
Serial No. AD51016440

all saturns are pal

Guntz
05-24-2012, 03:26 PM
List updated. bultje112, could you check if your Dreamcasts and play CD-R games? You know, bootleg Dreamcast games downloaded from online.

bultje112
05-24-2012, 03:30 PM
List updated. bultje112, could you check if your Dreamcasts and play CD-R games? You know, bootleg Dreamcast games downloaded from online.

yes they play them all and I can't find manufacture dates on any of my pal systems

SEGACOOL
05-24-2012, 03:55 PM
Saturn:

System Model: Not sure which but has Oval Buttons
Manufacture Date: March 1996
Serial Number: AE 62035881


Dreamcast:

Manufacturing Date: Sept. 2000
Serial Number: DU 083361982
Plays backups.

steve4
07-28-2012, 04:14 PM
Found another dreamcast at goodwill today.

DU940351736, May 1999

This is exactly the same as my other may 1999 machine except this one has a sticker on the bottom that says "Hollywood Video Rental Machine"

Guntz
07-29-2012, 04:57 PM
Thanks for the entries, list updated.

Genesis32XCD
07-30-2012, 10:05 PM
Here is a comprehensive Saturn serial list:
http://segasaturngroup.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hardware&action=display&thread=4427

Obviously
07-30-2012, 10:31 PM
My Dreamcast:

USA

Manufactured May, 2000

Serial # DU063686852

Plays backups.

Guntz
07-31-2012, 12:29 AM
Added, thanks.

That Saturn registry kinda makes this effort a bit... Obsolete. Perhaps someone on that forum should submit our serials?

zyrobs
09-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Hi ~~~
http://evilboris.sonic-cult.net/saturn/

madhatter
05-12-2013, 12:29 PM
Dreamcast 3020
DU083007040
Sept 2000
Plays backups

steve4
04-11-2016, 01:10 AM
I know this is quite a bump, but I happened to buy something kinda amazing off of craigslist earlier today. I came across a complete rental unit set with the console, cords, carrying case, and controllers close to me for cheap, so I had to buy it. The console is an original rental unit , S/N DU940152029, and I found a sticker in the case with the console serial number on it, too, but the numbers didn't match... but the number on the case is DU940351736... which happens to be the exact number of a console I bought out of a goodwill (and posted on here) 3 years ago!
Unfortunately, I don't own that console anymore, but I'm trying to find the contact info for the guy I sold it to to buy it back and reunite it to it's original case.