View Full Version : Megadrive vs Genesis
Larrylaffer606
11-17-2006, 12:34 AM
Which name for the console do you prefer?
Joe Redifer
11-17-2006, 01:23 AM
I would have been happy if they had kept the name Mega Drive for the US. Genesis just sounds too much like corporate America (of that era). However I have gotten used to Genesis, and it doesn't really bother me too much. At least they kept the color scheme from the Japanese Mega Drive (red plastic around the power LED).
I REALLY hated the gigantic "SEGA CD" text that they put on the US unit, though. Could they have chosen a bigger font point? I'm sure if they could have, they would have. And Copperplate Gothic? I liked the custom MEGA CD font better.
evildragon
11-17-2006, 01:36 AM
they couldn't use the Genesis name, supposedly because a product in the US was called MegaDrive.. don't know if this is true, but it seems any SEGA employee i ask, even my neighbor, thats what they say... so it must be true..
Mr Smith
11-17-2006, 05:46 AM
Being European my view may be slightly bias (although that's never stopped me posting unfounded statements before) but Mega Drive is by far the better name.
Genesis are a band not a console.
megadriveworld
11-17-2006, 11:05 AM
MegaDrive definitely, it's the original name and it sounds better. Changing the name to Genesis in the US was pretty much a last minute thing, as they could not use the name 'MegaDrive' due to some other product named the same thing.
Rusty Venture
11-17-2006, 11:27 AM
While "Mega Drive" does sound cooler, after so many years of "Genesis" you just accept it and get on with things.
Now dealing with game store clerks that roll their eyes at you when you ask about Genesis games....that i can never accept.
Zebbe
11-17-2006, 11:39 AM
I prefer Mega Drive. It's the original name, and it suits the hardware so good. Genesis just seems like a tool of christian propaganda.
108 Stars
11-17-2006, 12:19 PM
Hmh. Maybe I´m the only person in this entire world who thinks so, but I love the name Genesis. It sounds so cool!
Mega Drive sounds...kinda childish. I don´t think words like Mega or Super fit game consoles well...
TheGZeus
11-17-2006, 01:13 PM
I have an emotional attachment to Genesis, but I generally refer to it as a Mega Drive or MD nowaday.
I'm big on Japanese things.
(did you know Lords of Thunder is like $10 in japan?)
David J.
11-17-2006, 01:38 PM
Yeah, but it wasn't released for the Japanese Mega CD. Only the Sega CD and PAL Mega CD.
Megadrive always sounded a bit goofy to me. Like the SNES and all their "Super" titles. What does Megadrive mean anyhow? I get the mega part, as mega was always part of Sega's marketing on the Master System carts... but Drive? Where was it driving to? It didn't have a hard drive, there was no drive of any kind unless there were weird Japanese floppy disk attachments. I could see the MegaDrive being sold as the MegaCD attachment, because it has a CD drive. Genesis wasn't as flashy, but it got the point across that this was something new.
Zebbe
11-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Drive is for the processor. It "drives" fast.
Genesis Knight
11-17-2006, 05:27 PM
MegaDrive carries an 80s ring to me, while Genesis could still be the name of a modern console. It's just a cool word.
Rusty Venture
11-17-2006, 11:46 PM
Like the SNES and all their "Super" titles.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who finds the "Super" title on games to be silly.
It's not "Castlevania 4" its "SUPER Castlevania 4".
"Krusty's SUPER Funhouse"? :bs:
It didn't have a hard drive, there was no drive of any kind unless there were weird Japanese floppy disk attachments. I could see the MegaDrive being sold as the MegaCD attachment, because it has a CD drive.
Funny side story, the very first time i saw a Genesis (back in my Nintendo only days) I saw the round portion of the system and thought that it played CD's. :)
Joe Redifer
11-18-2006, 01:33 AM
Yeah, a friend of mine demanded that the CD-ROM was built into the Mega Drive when I showed him the first picture ever of the console back in the 1970's or 80's or whenever it was. I was skeptical.
And I always thought that Super Castlevania IV was perhaps the most retarded name for a game ever because it implied that there was another version of Castlevania IV that wasn't as good. Despite this, it remains my mostest favoritest SNES game of all time.
David J.
11-18-2006, 01:40 AM
You mean they had CD-ROM when the Mega Drive was announced??? Wow! I know I'd be skeptical too!
Rusty Venture
11-18-2006, 02:59 AM
And I always thought that Super Castlevania IV was perhaps the most retarded name for a game ever because it implied that there was another version of Castlevania IV that wasn't as good. Despite this, it remains my mostest favoritest SNES game of all time.
I like CV4 myself, but i find the addition of "Super" to some titles to be downright silly.
I could understand "Super Mario World", but 95% of the "Super" games had that part tacked on as some cheesy ass way to make the SNES version/game seem like it was "Superior".
As for CD-ROM's, when did the PC-Engine get it's add-on?
evildragon
11-18-2006, 03:01 AM
how about Doom 64? :p
Funny though, Mario had Super in it's name, before the Super Nintendo.. Super Mario Brothers.. that might be where Nintendo got SUPER from..
Rusty Venture
11-18-2006, 03:06 AM
I'm far more tolerant of the use of "64" in a title than what would have been the alternative, "ULTRA".
ULTRA DOOM
ULTRA MARIO KART
ULTRA EXCITE BIKE
So on....
That might be where Nintendo got the idea for "Super" but there were a lot of games that didn't really need that tacked onto the name.
Joe Redifer
11-18-2006, 04:10 AM
Yeah I quickly grew tired of all of the "64's" attached to N64 game titles as well. Thankfully the trend didn't continue with putting "Cube" on every Gamecube title.
You mean they had CD-ROM when the Mega Drive was announced???
They had announced that a CD-ROM player of some type would be down the road for the unit. The PC Engine CD was just about to come out when I read that. My friend decided that they built the CD-ROM right into the console, like the Saturn. I told him that the Saturn wouldn't be invented for quite some time and we'd have to deal with the CD-less Mega Drive first.
TheGZeus
11-18-2006, 06:04 AM
Oh yes, Lords of Thunder WAS released for Japanese Mega CD!
It has a different(stupid) name, and the cover of the disc is completely innappropriate.
I'd tell you, but I don't know how many copies the store I'll be ordering from has, and I'm greedy...
GeckoYamori
11-18-2006, 06:27 AM
how about Doom 64? :p
I think FIFA takes the cake. You get FIFA 94, 95, 96, then 64 all of a sudden.
Mr Smith
11-18-2006, 07:20 AM
I think FIFA takes the cake. You get FIFA 94, 95, 96, then 64 all of a sudden.
The 1963/1964 season was a great one for football.
Elusive
11-18-2006, 03:15 PM
Megadrive always sounded a bit goofy to me. Like the SNES and all their "Super" titles. What does Megadrive mean anyhow? I get the mega part, as mega was always part of Sega's marketing on the Master System carts... but Drive? Where was it driving to? It didn't have a hard drive, there was no drive of any kind unless there were weird Japanese floppy disk attachments. I could see the MegaDrive being sold as the MegaCD attachment, because it has a CD drive. Genesis wasn't as flashy, but it got the point across that this was something new.
It's part-Engrish. 'Mega' as in Mega-<verb>, Drive as in car - freedom, power, the kind of ideas you see in car ads. The Drive as in CD drive is a happy little coincidence as far as I'm concerned. :D
Gentlegamer
11-18-2006, 09:58 PM
"Genesis" does it for me!
NAE1000
11-19-2006, 10:11 AM
megadrive all the way (i'm a brit)=and it just sounds great. i always felt genesis sounded crap and was just 'the americans' trying to be better than everyone else.
now we know that's only half true, the name had to be changed.
but yeah, genesis- bit too biblical- bit too ' the start'- bit too phil collins!! (of course, peter gabriels' work is fine!)
ary incorparated
11-19-2006, 03:18 PM
hmm lords of thunder sega cd sucks compared to the pace of the pc engine version,pc engine cdr2 1991 i think,the megadrive already extern output for the md cd or what ever plans back then for that,they had mega?stands for?mega power or 100000 1MIPS ? i dont know mega for the power in the system and drive couse it drives the add ons and couse it had a whopping 7,58 mhz which no home console had in 88,not even the tg 16,had a slower drawing engine.
TheGZeus
11-19-2006, 06:22 PM
Oh, I'm getting the PC Engine version of Lords(Winds) of Thunder.
But being a Sega freak and liking the Mega CD's music ALOT more...
TheGZeus
11-20-2006, 01:33 AM
Upon further research, the various sites that claim there's a Lords of Thunder in Japan under a different name are wrong.
The game they say is Lords is in fact just some dumb card-based RPG.
Odd, as it's based on a Tokusatsu show...
ary incorparated
11-20-2006, 10:38 AM
i have to own that game,btw the mega cd version sounded better i dont think so i think the pc engine sounds more pitched tighter guitar work.
TheGZeus
11-20-2006, 11:46 AM
The recording of the guitars, drums, keys etc has a much worse sonic quality on PC engine.
The guitars were obviously(to a guitarist like myself and my friends) were recorded by plugging a distortion effect into a recorder.
There's more compression on the mix on PC engine, and the attack and release controls are set too long. That basically means when one thing gets louder, the rest get quieter and then fade back in.
These are very technical terms, but I'm fond of the technical side of recording music.
I think shred guitar sounds better with reverb, too.
The drums(while I'm sure are still a machine) are also more 'real' sounding on the Mega CD.
The difference is always personal preference with music, but it's best said this way: The PC Engine is a little too simply recorded, the Sega version is a little over-complicated.
The 'tightness' of the PC engine mix is mostly due to the reverb on the Mega CD.
I'll try a little EQ and reverb to see of I can make the PC engine mix sound more like the Mega CD to test that theory.
Joe Redifer
11-20-2006, 03:11 PM
Too bad you can't do anything to improve the horrible sound effects in the Sega version. Ug!
TheGZeus
11-20-2006, 10:17 PM
You can turn the slider on a Genesis/MD 1 down about 75%.
That helps ALOT.
Joe Redifer
11-20-2006, 11:14 PM
Genesis 2 users are screwed.
hmm lords of thunder sega cd sucks compared to the pace of the pc engine version,pc engine cdr2 1991 i think,the megadrive already extern output for the md cd or what ever plans back then for that,they had mega?stands for?mega power or 100000 1MIPS ? i dont know mega for the power in the system and drive couse it drives the add ons and couse it had a whopping 7,58 mhz which no home console had in 88,not even the tg 16,had a slower drawing engine.
Ary, I don't understand 90% of your posts, but I think you stumbled on to something there:
Taken from Wikipedia
The simplest 68000 instructions took four clock cycles, but the most complex ones required many more. An 8 MHz 68000 had an average performance of roughly 1 MIPS.
As we all know Million = Mega... one Million Instructions Per Second.... Mega Instructions Per Second.... Mega Drive?
evildragon
11-20-2006, 11:57 PM
Genesis 2 users are screwed.
shall I? cut the audio OUT traces going TO the SCD, and ad a volume POT on both of them...
hook the TV up to the SCD2's audio out.. there, now you got volume control on the Genesis 2...
evildragon
11-20-2006, 11:58 PM
Ary, I don't understand 90% of your posts, but I think you stumbled on to something there:
Taken from Wikipedia
As we all know Million = Mega... one Million Instructions Per Second.... Mega Instructions Per Second.... Mega Drive?
ahh, good catch!
TheGZeus
11-21-2006, 12:30 AM
shall I? cut the audio OUT traces going TO the SCD, and ad a volume POT on both of them...
hook the TV up to the SCD2's audio out.. there, now you got volume control on the Genesis 2...
It needs to be a stacked knob, but it'll work. 50k stacked knobs aren't uncommon. I have one(with a built-in switch, doesn't need to be attached).
Alternatively you can plug a pair of headphones into the mix input to kill the audio in from the expansion port, then just use a cheap mixer( they get CHEAP), run the audio out from each, and use the sliders to set the individual levels
hell, you'll even be able to EQ each channel.
evildragon
11-21-2006, 12:40 AM
It needs to be a stacked knob, but it'll work. 50k stacked knobs aren't uncommon. I have one(with a built-in switch, doesn't need to be attached).
Alternatively you can plug a pair of headphones into the mix input to kill the audio in from the expansion port, then just use a cheap mixer( they get CHEAP), run the audio out from each, and use the sliders to set the individual levels
hell, you'll even be able to EQ each channel.
true, but as everyone around here probably knows by now, i live the hard way ;)
Joe Redifer
11-21-2006, 02:13 AM
And the ugly way. I would hate adding external knobs or pots to the Genesis 2, though I doubt that machine can get any uglier!
ary incorparated
11-21-2006, 01:31 PM
didnt i say 1mips ohh no i sead 100000 typing fault i meant 1mips same as you taking from wikipedia.BTW i run em trought word how not to understand.
ary incorparated
11-21-2006, 01:54 PM
The recording of the guitars, drums, keys etc has a much worse sonic quality on PC engine.
The guitars were obviously(to a guitarist like myself and my friends) were recorded by plugging a distortion effect into a recorder.
There's more compression on the mix on PC engine, and the attack and release controls are set too long. That basically means when one thing gets louder, the rest get quieter and then fade back in.
These are very technical terms, but I'm fond of the technical side of recording music.
I think shred guitar sounds better with reverb, too.
The drums(while I'm sure are still a machine) are also more 'real' sounding on the Mega CD.
The difference is always personal preference with music, but it's best said this way: The PC Engine is a little too simply recorded, the Sega version is a little over-complicated.
The 'tightness' of the PC engine mix is mostly due to the reverb on the Mega CD.
I'll try a little EQ and reverb to see of I can make the PC engine mix sound more like the Mega CD to test that theory.
Hmm i do play guitar also but im still learning i can play several themes from game :) and some metallica songs i can play some comix zone songs thunder force 4 lords of thunder streetfighter and fire shark mario king of fighters fighting vipers and many more i play just for the fun i can play stairway to heaven etc,but back to the main the music stil is synthesized but then aggain computers back then seem to do pretty much good they where advanced and this was possible,but im trying the sega cd version out to and then ill have my inal judge im not dissapointed with the sound coming from the tg 16 version very sharp and i think i have to agree with the personal taste thing,im going to try and cover every single song of that game Lol.
Nazza
11-22-2006, 03:03 AM
but yeah, genesis- bit too biblical- bit too ' the start'- bit too phil collins!! (of course, peter gabriels' work is fine!)
Amen to that. :p
ary incorparated
11-24-2006, 04:25 PM
Too bad you can't do anything to improve the horrible sound effects in the Sega version. Ug!
im not going to call it that it seemed softer and more synthesized @ times,on the other hand it isnt a weakness of the sega cd eternal champions for instance made the non gamer think that it was recorded trough a amp.
ary incorparated
11-24-2006, 05:36 PM
ThwGzeuz can you play a tf boss medley?.
TheGZeus
11-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Heh. nah.
I don't really know any video game music. My friend(www.myspace.com/sirweezejunk) does alot of NintenDOH stuff, but I never learned anything but the bassline to Chrono Trigger's battle theme. That was years ago. I would, but I haven't decided what I'd want to do. Give me a few days and I could probably figure THAT out again...
And for the record, the reason direct recorded sounds the way it does it guitar amp speakers filter out tones above 5khz. Direct recorded sounds have a 'buzzsaw' quality in comparison.
David J.
11-25-2006, 02:12 AM
I'm used to the Genesis, but seeing that I own two PAL Mega Drive games... I think the logo is much better.
I found it funny that I paid $20 for MINT European carts of Phantasy Star 2 and 3, when a loose cart of Phantasy Star 2 is that much an hour away in awful condition.
Joe Redifer
11-25-2006, 03:02 AM
I actually hate the PAL Mega Drive logo. It has that same weird shape thing as the first Genesis logo kind of making it look like a cheap Hong Kong rip off or something. I really like the JAPANESE Mega Drive logo, however.
Rusty Venture
11-25-2006, 04:50 AM
Yeah i always disliked the PAL Mega Drive logo too, and for the same reasons.
It looked cheap and poorly designed.
The Japanese "MD" logo really was the best of the bunch.
ary incorparated
11-25-2006, 08:33 AM
[QUOTE=TheGZeus]Heh. nah.
I don't really know any video game music. My friend(www.myspace.com/sirweezejunk) does alot of NintenDOH stuff, but I never learned anything but the bassline to Chrono Trigger's battle theme. That was years ago. I would, but I haven't decided what I'd want to do. Give me a few days and I could probably figure THAT out again...
And for the record, the reason direct recorded sounds the way it does it guitar amp speakers filter out tones above 5khz. Direct recorded sounds have a 'buzzsaw' quality in comparison.[/QUOT
could be i dont record my guitar work that much Midi disc isnt the best solution and i can do records with my boss me 50 but more like beginners stuff.i can play a Thunder force boss medley,im not specialiali specified on games music covering but somethimes there are a few themes that need to be done on guitar becaouyse their close to it or are just fun to do like double dragon etc for the fun,im trying to play lords of thunder songs at the moment and i can play lots of metallica(who cant).
TheGZeus
11-25-2006, 08:48 AM
I always liked Slayer more than Metallica.
There are alot of bands that play game music. The Advantage, Minibosses... but they play NintenDOH...
ary incorparated
11-25-2006, 06:00 PM
yess many play nintendo soem of them trie the more unfamilair things like sgea genesis games and more un typical stuff like a contra or blue shadow(heard so many F...cking times) okay i do have to admit mario tunes are fun doing also streetfighter has that edge of just must couse their reminders and not to difficult and hell fun,the library of sega is bit more unfamilair but then the genesis was one of the first consoles to work with fm synthesis playiong comix zoen and getting a crappy cd with it asks for covering same for fire shark musha and more soem are more into nintendo covers i respect tat but im more into my own guitar stuff and some covers from slayer metallica and the game coverage fun.
Slayer hmm their okay some fun songs but Tom cant sing nice but can sing fast i like that,i have more preference for a good voice then some quick talk and some overdone solos,the solos make hell no snece their really messy somethimes in slayer songs couse their done to fast reign in blodd album 2 or 3 songs are okay reign in blood agressive perfector and another the rest is too fast too fast simplistic crap with speedy mess solos in it(i really do hate the solos) i find slayer not as professional as metallica couse the songs are okay and some good but hell not difficult to play the riffs from any slayer album are doable same as for metallica albums but unforgiffen 2 and some others cost a day practise, i learned reighn in blood in 5 min its so simple,yet have to try some more slayer and find out if theirs actually a good voice in their music and not messy guitar solos i think seasons in abyss wil do me good yet to try that one.
Joe Redifer
11-25-2006, 07:39 PM
I hate the Minibosses. They sound like ass. Why has this thread been infected with their name?
ary incorparated
11-25-2006, 08:00 PM
minibosses like in contra?.
TheGZeus
11-25-2006, 08:59 PM
One of the things I like about Slayer is the stupid solos. "Yeah just drink a pot of coffe and go!"
HILARIOUS!!!
And I like Minibosses. They sound live. I like that. I prefer a relatively thin sound that's natural to a thick sound that's over-produced.
Joe Redifer
11-25-2006, 09:16 PM
Actually most studio rock/metal is still very under-produced as far as the sound quality goes. Sure, it is "over-mixed" meaning that you may hear 3 or 4 guitars simultaneously when the band has but one guitarist, etc. But rock music is mixed so that it can still sound decent on low-grade boom-boxes and car stereos/radio. It could sound so much better even on normal 44.1Khz 16-bit CD. The MiniBosses use the crappiest microphones/equipment in the world and that's why they sound so thin. They also know nothing of EQ, as they could at least smooth out their screechingly high frequencies if they cared. They may sound the same live, but their equipment sucks. If you hear a band live with good equipment, then it sounds amazingly good, not "thin".
megadriveworld
11-25-2006, 09:38 PM
How dare this mighty logo be insulted, just look at its excellence, all silver and shiny with a great font :cool: . It just feels right to be honest -
http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/sonicsite/megadrive_logo.jpg
Later on it was updated -
http://www.dcshooters.co.uk/sega/megadrive/images/mdlogowide.jpg
Joe Redifer
11-25-2006, 10:01 PM
The second one is much better. As said before, the first one looks like a cheap Hong Kong knock-off of the Genesis logo.
Rusty Venture
11-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Ditto Joe's comments.
Mr Smith
11-25-2006, 11:27 PM
How dare this mighty logo be insulted, just look at its excellence, all silver and shiny with a great font :cool: . It just feels right to be honest -
http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/sonicsite/megadrive_logo.jpg
Later on it was updated -
http://www.dcshooters.co.uk/sega/megadrive/images/mdlogowide.jpg
The first image looks like it should be on a car and, in my opinion (which makes it right), is better than the second.
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 12:10 AM
Actually most studio rock/metal is still very under-produced as far as the sound quality goes. Sure, it is "over-mixed" meaning that you may hear 3 or 4 guitars simultaneously when the band has but one guitarist, etc. But rock music is mixed so that it can still sound decent on low-grade boom-boxes and car stereos/radio. It could sound so much better even on normal 44.1Khz 16-bit CD. The MiniBosses use the crappiest microphones/equipment in the world and that's why they sound so thin. They also know nothing of EQ, as they could at least smooth out their screechingly high frequencies if they cared. They may sound the same live, but their equipment sucks. If you hear a band live with good equipment, then it sounds amazingly good, not "thin".
By 'over produced' I mean piles of post-amp EQ(and anyone with a real knowledge of sound engineering will tell you that EQ IS distortion. It may not be clipping, but it is a significant alteration of the original signal) 10s of dBs of compression/gating, digital reverb on certain parts...
What mics and other kit do Minibosses use?
And that whole 'mixing to sound good on sh$% stereo' aesthetic disgusts me.
I mix with a flat system in mind, because I'm recording to...make a record of something.
"This is what happened, this is what it sounded like."
The biggest offense I hear in music today is Compression( mastering compression is bad enough, but that's on top of track-by-track protooling) and over-EQ is a close second. My favorite recording were all done live to 2 track tape with no compression, and virtually no EQ. I know these things because i know he guy who recorded it. he recorded Leo Kottke's first record, and engineered his third. Anyone who knows Kottke knows those are the ones to own. i'm not tooting MY horn. i just know the guy because I shop at his store.
EQ is useful to make up for where a mic may lack or mic placement limitations, but it's used too often to make a band/instrument sound like a totally different thing.
Maybe minibosses like that scratchy guitar sound. I mean, 'Thunderbirds Are Now!' sure do. Ever hear 'Big Black?'
If a band is looking to sound a certain way, that doesn't make them incompetent, it makes them convicted. if you don't like it, that's fine.
I can't stand hearing a Dual Rectifier. So...I don't do that.
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 12:13 AM
The second PAL one looks like "Hi, I'm Some Guy. Welcome to my website! I just got Photoshop!"
The first one looks like... some kind of russian sports car logo. Like, it LOOKS fast, but then it's got an alumium 4 cylinder under the hood, and like 120hp...for 10 miles.
Then the spoiler flies off and the grille pierces the radiator and I'm posting and drinking again.....
Joe Redifer
11-26-2006, 12:28 AM
I don't know what the MiniBosses use, but it sure sounds like ass to me. I know not of the bands you describe (and don't really care). I agree that compression is bad. A lot of people may think we are talking about "compressing to MP3z", but no. Kill the dynamic range, man! Ug. Other things I don't like about the MiniBosses are their arrangements. They just aren't very good.
Rusty Venture
11-26-2006, 05:51 AM
The problem with a logo that looks like it belongs on a car......is that it's not on a car....
It is on a video game box, and it looks like ass.
I just saw the Euro "Sonic 3" box and i have to admit that both logos look terrible.
Maybe it's the font. :yuck:
Mr Smith
11-26-2006, 06:06 AM
The first one looks like... some kind of russian sports car logo. Like, it LOOKS fast, but then it's got an alumium 4 cylinder under the hood, and like 120hp...for 10 miles.
Then the spoiler flies off and the grille pierces the radiator and I'm posting and drinking again.....
In Soveit Russia, car drives YOU!!
ary incorparated
11-26-2006, 07:51 AM
the second its doesnt ruin the entire box the first log isnt in the right place with the black ugly box with grey stiper damn how ugly,the second fals just in the right place with the bright blue color,it brought retro it made future.
ary incorparated
11-26-2006, 07:56 AM
Thezgeus yeah when i drink a big pot of beer slayer can be entertaining or with a couple of friends i enjoy it, but metallica i see as a bit more professional how fanbiatched they may be.the last album of slayer sucked even more then st anger.
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 11:27 AM
In Soveit Russia, car drives YOU!!
Mega drives you
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 11:32 AM
"Thezgeus yeah when i drink a big pot of beer slayer can be entertaining or with a couple of friends i enjoy it, but metallica i see as a bit more professional how fanbiatched they may be.the last album of slayer sucked even more then st anger."
I agree with everything you said.
I don't like anything after 'Reign in Blood' by slayer, except their live album. I can only listen to them once or twice a year.
Metallica is more 'professional' and 'fan based.' and that's actually why I dislike them. It sounds like someone's job and they intentionally made records to people their fans.
Slayer made records to anger their fans parents.
I just happen to find the latter entertaining.
GeckoYamori
11-26-2006, 11:40 AM
The biggest offense I hear in music today is Compression( mastering compression is bad enough, but that's on top of track-by-track protooling) and over-EQ is a close second.
Since we already have EQs in regular stereo sets, I think they should include personal compressors as well so you can tweak it to your preference. Dumbasses can simply choose from pre-configured presets to "improve" the sound.
ary incorparated
11-26-2006, 12:07 PM
metallica has to trow away the ego and get back to basics and seriously make records for them self and not for the record,they have to think about what they find good and not about the metallicanerds in metallica shirts the most unknown artist are at best and the most loud mouthed ones think they are,i got every single metallica record couse i like the music and i was curious for every cd,the band i dont care what they do and what they look like off course they get my respect for making some nice ear pleasure but then aggian theyre not the only band i listen to,i dont like the metallica circus they dont know they fucking up live.how many master of puppets shirts do i see on the street to many almost a sect not fun,at least they can be origenal.
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 10:27 PM
Since we already have EQs in regular stereo sets, I think they should include personal compressors as well so you can tweak it to your preference. Dumbasses can simply choose from pre-configured presets to "improve" the sound.
They do have them these days.
SOmeone in the manual of every modern stereo there's a way to set a 'dynamic range compressor' or some pseudnym.
My reciever from 1996-7(don't remember) has 3 different settings. I used to set it to the max and do the same on my DVD player so I could listen to Japanese DVDs while I slept without fight scenes or theme songs waking me up.
Whether or not it helped my Japanese(seemed to) it helped me sleep...
TheGZeus
11-26-2006, 10:30 PM
I just never liked the lack of irony in Metallica. I like to have a little tongue-in-cheek humour in my music unless it's insane or creep for rare reasons(Crazy music, old folk music is often very dark, as are a few very christian-oriented[lyrically] bands I like. Not a christian myself).
ary incorparated
11-27-2006, 07:44 AM
yet have to listen to your music,my sound card is deffect ;).
Knuckles-chaotix
11-27-2006, 07:51 AM
megadrive kix ass over any US gibbersish.
ary incorparated
11-27-2006, 04:49 PM
hmm off course but the pc engine is far from bad, its fucking awesome sapphire and more and some games toaster the graphic quality of the md to be harsh except the likes as gunstar who cant be beaten in the 16 bit era.Thegzues i get what you mean by that the pcengine version sounds bit more unreal a bit more synthesized or something and sometimes very quit, but then again in the sega cd version you cant hear the guitars its harmonics that good while on the pc engine version hell yeah, you can hear the strings beeing picked while they aren’t. sometimes its hard to say guitar or synthesizer sometimes the guitar sounds really strange in the pc engine version, but why do i have to hate this title while it does its work what it should and better then the sega cd version it has no lack of colours and almost the same amount of animations
Knuckles-chaotix
11-27-2006, 05:26 PM
metallica has to trow away the ego and get back to basics and seriously make records for them self and not for the record,they have to think about what they find good and not about the metallicanerds in metallica shirts the most unknown artist are at best and the most loud mouthed ones think they are,i got every single metallica record couse i like the music and i was curious for every cd,the band i dont care what they do and what they look like off course they get my respect for making some nice ear pleasure but then aggian theyre not the only band i listen to,i dont like the metallica circus they dont know they fucking up live.how many master of puppets shirts do i see on the street to many almost a sect not fun,at least they can be origenal.
Whats Metallica got to do with Megadrive???
Metallica went down hill after Justice for all.
Joe Redifer
11-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Metallica invented the Mega Drive. There is a strand of greasy hair from the band included with each console.
Knuckles-chaotix
11-27-2006, 10:44 PM
Metallica invented the Mega Drive. There is a strand of greasy hair from the band included with each console.
U wish.
Gentlegamer
11-28-2006, 12:20 AM
Metallica invented the Mega Drive. There is a strand of greasy hair from the band included with each console.If Metallica had invented the Mega Drive, James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich would tried to shut down all online MD ROM sharing and then make a Mario clone the company mascot to be more popular (i.e. sell out). :cool:
Knuckles-chaotix
11-28-2006, 12:25 AM
To hell with that shit band!
Mr Smith
11-28-2006, 06:16 AM
Kim Jong-Il created the Mega Drive.
Knuckles-chaotix
11-28-2006, 06:19 AM
Sid vicous created the megadrive.
Mr Smith
11-28-2006, 06:22 AM
In Soviet Russia, Mega Drive creates YOU!!
ary incorparated
11-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Whats Metallica got to do with Megadrive???
Metallica went down hill after Justice for all.
hmm metallica better could have done their trucker game on the md then maybe it would be a competition for motley crue pinball ,metallica has to deal with that motley crue has a better(very repetitive game)then the crappy band must game metallica truckers smash something. they could have made a pinball game back then to beat motley crue pinball, or they’re music could have been in rock and roll racing?. actually they got not much to do with it actually nothing but i turned the subject a bit.
Mendicant
11-29-2006, 04:17 AM
Going back to the original topic, I prefer Genesis because it sounds like something out of Star Trek, the Mega Drive sounds like an 80's-esque nickname for Nitrous Oxide.
Come to think of it, doesn't an entire Star Trek movie revolve around the Genesis??
Rusty Venture
11-29-2006, 05:02 AM
I believe that was the early plot idea for the third movie.
The part of the "Genesis" was to be played by none other than Christopher Lloyd (in heavy makeup).
"Altered Beast" vocals were going to be done by Elmer Fudd.
Knuckles-chaotix
11-29-2006, 07:01 AM
Na megadrive all the way baby,,
great meaning behind it at the time!
ary incorparated
12-04-2006, 06:56 AM
To hell with that shit band!
can you do better?.
Knuckles-chaotix
12-04-2006, 08:02 AM
can you do better?.
In terms of better riffs YES!
But their early stuff is GOLD.
ary incorparated
12-04-2006, 11:17 AM
yeass i know justice for all and stuff altought master of pupets isnt that great(the song itself) send some riff work then ;) or show a my space link or something youtube?.
Symos
12-11-2006, 04:46 PM
I grew up calling it Mega Drive, so the name sticks.
Knuckles-chaotix
12-11-2006, 04:59 PM
yeass i know justice for all and stuff altought master of pupets isnt that great(the song itself) send some riff work then ;) or show a my space link or something youtube?.
www.myspace.com/djbear666
Knuckles-chaotix
12-11-2006, 05:07 PM
mEGADRIVE SOUNDS GREAT!
108 Stars
12-12-2006, 10:38 AM
My opinion is the only one that counts, so itīs Genesis!
Please close this thread now!:o
ary incorparated
12-20-2006, 03:49 PM
i cant listen your music on some strange way Knuckles chaotix,i can do better in my own way everyone makes unique music and have their own style their older stuff is bit simplistic although justice was one hell over thought album so is ride the lightning but master gets repetitive so gets kill them all, in master of puppets the satriani style of solos really is recognisable especially the semi harmonical trick in master of puppets satriani plays with all the time.
Knuckles-chaotix
12-20-2006, 05:54 PM
i cant listen your music on some strange way Knuckles chaotix,i can do better in my own way everyone makes unike music and have their own style their older stuff is bit simplistic altought justice was one hell overtought album so is ride the lightning but master gets repetetive so gets kill em all,in master of pupets the satriani style of solos really is recogniseable esspecially the semi harmonical trick in master of pupets satriani plays with all the time.
Sorry this does not make sense?
Can you speak english?
Knuckles-chaotix
12-20-2006, 05:56 PM
My opinion is the only one that counts, so itīs Genesis!
Please close this thread now!:o
LOl how wrong u are!
It was made in Japan and we got the real name Megadrive and you get stuck with a corny name the genesis!
PLus Us in Australia got few more titles that the U.S never seen the light of! Also we got sega from the very very first console sega mark 1000 you guys only got the Sms.
So we pawn you guys!
daminmancejin2
12-20-2006, 06:05 PM
im use to sega genesis
megadriveworld
12-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Everyones opinion counts, most of the world knew the system as MegaDrive while one country knew it as the Genesis.
Joe Redifer
12-20-2006, 06:55 PM
So we pawn you guys!
We have far more pawn shops here in the states since most of the country is poor and we have to sell all our belongings for some crackers. When you walk in, you get pawned!
Knuckles-chaotix
12-20-2006, 07:10 PM
We have far more pawn shops here in the states since most of the country is poor and we have to sell all our belongings for some crackers. When you walk in, you get pawned!
oh ok..
Joe Redifer
12-20-2006, 07:20 PM
To others who may not know what the hell I am talking about: Pawn shops are places where you sell pretty much anything for money, and can buy used stuff, too. Not sure if they call them "Pawn" shops in other countries.
Also, PWND does = pawned in my opinion, even though it's supposed to represent "owned". :)
Knuckles-chaotix
12-20-2006, 07:59 PM
To others who may not know what the hell I am talking about: Pawn shops are places where you sell pretty much anything for money, and can buy used stuff, too. Not sure if they call them "Pawn" shops in other countries.
Also, PWND does = pawned in my opinion, even though it's supposed to represent "owned". :)
oh ok
Nazza
12-20-2006, 09:43 PM
To others who may not know what the hell I am talking about: Pawn shops are places where you sell pretty much anything for money, and can buy used stuff, too. Not sure if they call them "Pawn" shops in other countries.
Also, PWND does = pawned in my opinion, even though it's supposed to represent "owned". :)
We call them pawn shops here, at least I do. :)
David J.
12-20-2006, 09:52 PM
Pawn Shops rock!
I always go to the one in town at least 100 times a week. It helps that I have a school friend who works there! ;)
Mr Smith
12-21-2006, 06:59 AM
100 times a week!!! Jesus, you might want to go in more frequently just incase somebody brings in something you want during the few minutes you aren't there.
108 Stars
12-21-2006, 10:08 AM
LOl how wrong u are!
It was made in Japan and we got the real name Megadrive and you get stuck with a corny name the genesis!
PLus Us in Australia got few more titles that the U.S never seen the light of! Also we got sega from the very very first console sega mark 1000 you guys only got the Sms.
So we pawn you guys!
In case you havenīt noticed, Iīm a PALien too! *points to the left*
Mega Drive sounds just as stupid as Super Nintendo. Super, Mega, Ultra, Hyper, it all sounds so ridiculous, while GENESIS has something...monumental...
ary incorparated
12-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Sorry this does not make sense?
Can you speak english?
no i cant i just type words hoping people understand them.
ary incorparated
12-21-2006, 03:08 PM
i go for mega drive,genesis nah heard it to much(to familiar)
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