8 of the Most Awful Paid DLC in Videogame History

[DarkDragon]

http://www.dorkly.com/article/36883/dorklyst-8-of-the-most-awful-paid-dlc-in-videogame-history

[TheSonicRetard]

wrong

http://brentiverse.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mmx-image-11.jpg

[Zoltor]

http://www.dorkly.com/article/36883/dorklyst-8-of-the-most-awful-paid-dlc-in-videogame-history



Battlefield 3 is pretty bad I agree(sigh, it bypasses the need to even play the game, It's like if a RPG allowed you to buy fully leveled char), but there's a hell of a lot worse then Oblivion's horse.

FF My like as King(or what ever its called again) has an insane amount of useless DLC items, and they are expensive as hell. I am shocked that game Isn't listed, It's most likely one of the top three worst, It's that bad.

[gamevet]

I believe second life outdoes them all. You buy a virtual space with virtual items, virtual shops and just about everything that's available there.

http://lindenlab.com/

*edit*

Actually, it's Entropia Universe, but Second Life is very simular.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchiang/2010/11/13/meet-the-man-who-just-made-a-cool-half-million-from-the-sale-of-virtual-property/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropia_Universe

[Olls]

Battlefield 3 is pretty bad I agree(sigh, it bypasses the need to even play the game, It's like if a RPG allowed you to buy fully leveled char)

You're missing the point. The DLC allows you to be on a level playing field with everybody else. Your comparison is off, because RPGs are not competitive games (and are usually single player anyway).
The goal in Battlefield is not to level your character and collect weapons. That shit should never have been in the game in the first place.

[Zoltor]

You're missing the point. The DLC allows you to be on a level playing field with everybody else. Your comparison is off, because RPGs are not competitive games (and are usually single player anyway).
The goal in Battlefield is not to level your character and collect weapons. That shit should never have been in the game in the first place.

MMORPG(a offshoot of RPG) is insanely competitive(weren't esports born from such) tyvm. No, a ranking system that actually worked, would put people on a even playing field, but that DLC is just cheating, and helps flood the game with crappy players, instead of forcing them to work hard learning the game, thus becoming skilled players whom have earned their way up there.

[QuickSciFi]

I hate lists with multiple pages.

[Olls]

MMORPG(a offshoot of RPG) is insanely competitive(weren't esports born from such) tyvm. No, a ranking system that actually worked, would put people on a even playing field, but that DLC is just cheating, and helps flood the game with crappy players, instead of forcing them to work hard learning the game, thus becoming skilled players whom have earned their way up there.

You've never played the game, have you?
Anyone that's played the game for over a week (aka, pretty much everybody) has everything unlocked. Why should you be forced to grind for items and upgrades while getting owned 24/7 instead of immediately jumping in and having a fair battle?
And no, MMORPGS were never at the forefront of E-sports, LOL. Where'd you get that from? The ONLY MMORPG to have any sort of E-sports component is World of Warcraft, and that's just arena, and guess what? They let you have a fully leveled character with the best gear you can get before getting into the fray.

[TheSonicRetard]

MMOs are not "insanely competitive." PvP is not the main goal of an MMO. Cooperation and coordinated raids are the point of most MMOs.

And saying tyvm makes you sound like an 11 year old girl.

[ThugsRook]

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[TheSonicRetard]

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The Megaman X DLC pic I posted above is real. It's from the iphone remake.

[Zoltor]

You've never played the game, have you?
Anyone that's played the game for over a week (aka, pretty much everybody) has everything unlocked. Why should you be forced to grind for items and upgrades while getting owned 24/7 instead of immediately jumping in and having a fair battle?
And no, MMORPGS were never at the forefront of E-sports, LOL. Where'd you get that from? The ONLY MMORPG to have any sort of E-sports component is World of Warcraft, and that's just arena, and guess what? They let you have a fully leveled character with the best gear you can get before getting into the fray.

You never played Atlantica Online(This MMO is very much tactic based) have you, there's huge tournies like every week(cross server tournies at that, not just server wide), and there's a huge Global tourny once a year(the people who earn a spot get flown out to Korea, and everything). RO hosts cross server tournies once a year as qualifying matches, and then a global once a year, exc.

To Sonic: Technically you can make all your gold in AO by PvPing, so that's really upto the player. I know for a fact, the Titan tourny players never play the actual game(It's almost impossible to stay rank 0, 1 or even 2, so those players really don't have the time to do anything but PvP).

[Olls]

You never played Atlantica Online(This MMO is very much tactic based) have you, there's huge tournies like every week(cross server tournies at that, not just server wide), and there's a huge Global tourny once a year(the people who earn a spot get flown out to Korea, and everything). RO hosts cross server tournies once a year as qualifying matches, and then a global once a year, exc.

To Sonic: Technically you can make all your gold in AO by PvPing, so that's really upto the player. I know for a fact, the Titan tourny players never play the actual game(It's almost impossible to stay rank 0, 1 or even 2, so those players really don't have the time to do anything but PvP).

What does this have to do with e-sports? Or Battlefield 3 for that matter? Any Joe Shmoe can host a tourney.

[Zoltor]

What does this have to do with e-sports? Or Battlefield 3 for that matter? Any Joe Shmoe can host a tourney.

Are you kidding me, high ranked PvP in AO is all about esports(the winner of the Global tourny gets tons of r/l money, It's a big deal. It was like 100k for 1st place, forgot what the other place holders won, but I'm pretty sure some of they get cash prizes as well).

[gamevet]

Are you kidding me, high ranked PvP in AO is all about esports(the winner of the Global tourny gets tons of r/l money, It's a big deal. It was like 100k).

And has nothing to do with Battlefield 3 DLC.

[Olls]

Do you even know what e-sports is, because no AO (or any other MMO) is hosted there. I swear, arguing with you is like trying to talk sense into a chimp.
Stop bringing up random shit.

[TheSonicRetard]

So because there is ONE niche MMO which makes its claim to fame in extensive PvP, MMOs are suddenly "insanely competitive."

Ok then.

[Zoltor]

And has nothing to do with Battlefield 3 DLC.

Go back and read the debate, I said that cheat is like if you were to give people maxe leveld char in a RPG via DLC, and one of you guys dared to generalize the genre by saying, but RPGs aren't competitive, so there you have it.

No game should have bypasses to give you everything upfront.

Sonic: I never played it, but from what I've heard, StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO) was the biggest esports game in existance for the longest time, and is believed by most to be the real start/origins of esports.

[TheSonicRetard]

Extrapolating a single MMO to represent an entire genre is the epitome of generalization.

[Olls]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

[TheSonicRetard]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

It's obvious he doesn't know what e-sports are and is just going to reply with some korean tournament because he doesn't understand your question. Why bother?

[gamevet]

Go back and read the debate, I said that cheat is like if you were to give people maxe leveld char in a RPG via DLC, and one of you guys dared to generalize the genre by saying, but RPGs aren't competitive, so there you have it.

No game should have bypasses to give you everything upfront.


Nobody is winning money by upgrading in Battlefield 3. Even if your weapons are on an even level, map knowledge and the ability to use mobile units plays into how well you fair in the battlefield.

[Zoltor]

Show us what league hosts MMO competitive pvp to prove your point, or move on. Until then, you are wrong.

You only need a legue system, in games that have team based tournes(this is common in FPS), while MMOs have very advanced team mechanics, their esports based matches are usually done elimination style using 1v1 matches(although there are a couple of exceptions).

The participants for the bigger tournies are just simply chosen from the best ranked players, there's no need for a League.

True, but like I said, it floods the games with crappy players, that can influance(over inflate) the usual ranking system(is it just me or do FPS have the worst ranking systems).

[Olls]

Sonic: I never played it, but from what I've heard, StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO) was the biggest esports game in existance for the longest time, and is believed by most to be the real start/origins of esports.

STARCRAFT an MMO? Really? Nobody is this stupid.

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Please stop, you're just making yourself look even more ridiculous.

[Daria]

The horse armor thing wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault (well ok, yes it was but hear me out), they wanted to release it as free DLC but Microsoft rejected it on the grounds that all DLC had to be paid for. I know that's no longer the case but Horse Armor was an early DLC release. They had released an apology or something on their website at the time. I don't remember the exact details, but that was the gist of it.

[Zoltor]

The horse armor thing wasn't entirely Bethesda's fault (well ok, yes it was but hear me out), they wanted to release it as free DLC but Microsoft rejected it on the grounds that all DLC had to be paid for. I know that's no longer the case but Horse Armor was an early DLC release. They had released an apology or something on their website at the time. I don't remember the exact details, but that was the gist of it.

Omg I remember hearing about that BS, haven't heard any complaints for a long time now though, so MS dropped that dumb rule then(that would explain things)?

[MrMatthews]

Hello, Internet. My name is Zoltor. Please accept, with my compliments, the following fact I've just fabricated.

StarCraft(a MMO, it claims to be a RTS, but even then, that would make it a MMORTS, thus still a MMO)

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/joeproduct/014.jpg

[Tanegashima]

arguing with you is like trying to talk sense into a chimp.
Stop bringing up random shit.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there turbo

[Obviously]

I believe second life outdoes them all. You buy a virtual space with virtual items, virtual shops and just about everything that's available there.

http://lindenlab.com/

*edit*

Actually, it's Entropia Universe, but Second Life is very simular.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchiang/2010/11/13/meet-the-man-who-just-made-a-cool-half-million-from-the-sale-of-virtual-property/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropia_Universe

I don't agree. As dumb as Second Life ultimately is it can be a pretty fun virtual playground or roleplaying environment. Even the dress-up-doll aspect has an appeal to some people. It's also hard to compare to video game DLC since its objectives are different and everything is user generated. (But yeah, the virtual real-estate thing is the stupidest crap ever.)

Anyway I'm pretty much against all "Pay to Win!" DLC. It's one of the reasons I can't take MMO's seriously. What's the point of a game where the entire focus is to grow your character's ability if you can buy all of the best crap or at least passable endgame crap right from the beginning? There's no sense of accomplishment. It's boring. You could say, "just don't buy any DLC then" but in a multiplayer game like an MMO everybody's overpowered characters still effect your playing of the game unless you want to be anti-social.

If you're going to make your endgame really good and worth playing that's one thing, but then why have a build up to the endgame at all if you can pay to skip to it? Why not make a game that's all endgame (something I expect to see more and more of in MMO games soon)? If that's the focus of the game then it's really quite a racket that you've created this time-wasting part that players can just pay to remove. Literally people are paying to remove a part of the game. This basically says to me that this part of the game was unnecessary from the start and shouldn't even be there.

But then that's the problem with most recent MMOs with endgames that actually suck. They aren't terribly compelling which means once a player experiences it all as quickly as possible, we see sharp declines in the populations of these games. My point is if you're going to make ways for people to pay money to access all of the content in a game faster, you better make damn sure your game is fun and has a lot of value in it to keep a person playing or they're going to lose interest really fast.

Unfortunately this creates the problem of what IS acceptable DLC? How do you make people pay real money for a change of virtual clothes or something else that doesn't give you an unfair advantage? I don't know if I have an answer for that.

[Phantar]

Personally I think this list is better... http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-most-insulting-things-video-games-charged-money-for/. It's a tad longer and, in my opinion, has a few better examples... It also predates the dorkly-list by about half a year. Both lists even share (coincidentally?... the phrasing seems awfully familiar in places) three elements, though in different order...

[xelement5x]

Personally I think this list is better... http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-most-insulting-things-video-games-charged-money-for/. It's a tad longer and, in my opinion, has a few better examples... It also predates the dorkly-list by about half a year. Both lists even share (coincidentally?... the phrasing seems awfully familiar in places) three elements, though in different order...

Cracked seems to get their content ripped off all the time, probably because a fair amount of it is pretty interesting and well researched. I actually think they even had an article addressing all the plagiarism.

[JCU]

I'm surprised the Bioshock 2 map pack didn't make the list. The DLC gave you additional maps to play online yet you could never play on them since no one had them and the matchmaking for the game was terrible. Over two years later and I still have not played an online match on one of those "new" maps.