Who needs the strongest E3 showing?

[DarkDragon]

http://www.gamingtruth.com/2012/04/29/who-needs-the-strongest-e3-this-year/

3. Microsoft
2. Nintendo
1. Sony

[QuickSciFi]

Nintendo

[sheath]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4

Realistically, any and all companies looking to launch a new console in the next five years needs a seriously impressive presentation, game lineup, and company line on why the new console is better than existing ones experientially.

[EclecticGroove]

Honestly, I don't think any of them need a particularly strong E3 showing. Unless they flub it and make people actively hate them, it really won't matter right now. MS and Sony's consoles are far enough off to make this E3 irrelevant. Nintendo's console already has interest due to the controller, so all they need to do is show up with some material for it + their current consoles and it's a done deal.

So, all they need to do is show up, and be no worse than mediocre. None of them will be changing their position in the market based on this short of announcing they are going out of business or some such.

Only way I see the above being different is if Sony and/or MS officially announce their next console... then they would obviously need to step up their presentation proportional to how close to release it is.

[AlecRob]

Sega

[j_factor]

Sega

Sega had a really kick-ass showing at E3 2000. In the end it didn't seem to make much of a difference.

[kokujin]

All 3 need a strong showing.The games industry needs to change, because it can't keep trucking in the direction its been going.

[Tanegashima]

Does E3 even matter anymore?

[sheath]

Sega had a really kick-ass showing at E3 2000. In the end it didn't seem to make much of a difference.

Sega's showing in E3 2000 is the best show ever, nothing will ever top that showing.

[tz101]

Sony

[Gogogadget]

Personally I think Nintendo could use a good showing, they didn't get to show much of the Wii U and they didn't reveal alot about the Nintendo 3DS line-up even after rush releasing it to shelves, they really need to show us a good reason to invest in their upcoming hardware.

[Lastcallhall]

Easily Sony. And whoever hired Mr. Caffeine (Ubisoft, wasn't it?)

[profholt82]

What does that even mean? By and large everyone already has their preferred console this generation, so what will a strong E3 showing do? It's not like E3 gets the masses to line up for new peripherals.

[Televator]

I'd say Sony. The Vita does seem to be in a pinch currently. I'd hate for it to fail. I still want one mainly for the possibility of getting some Wii U ports.

[gamevet]

I believe it has to be Nintendo. They have to show why the Wii U is a contender, when its graphics are just slightly better than the current gen hardware. They need to show why the controller is a strong selling point for the console, not only for the consumer, but for 3rd party developers as well.

[Zoltor]

Who needs the strongest E3 showing? That's a easy one, Sony. Sony is so royally screwed at this point, not only do they need a strong showing, but they need to actually follow through with whatever stuff they spout.


However I don't think Sony will have that strong of a showing, I'm pretty sure Nintendo will be strong, and we may very well see MS pull off some magic(they have to be working on something, but they haven't released any real info yet, and this upcoming E3 is the logical time to do such. With the Wii U around the corner, and the vita/3DS already out, they are losing the perfect window by not releasing info at this E3).

[Knuckle Duster]

It's a confident bet that Sony will announce a PS3 price drop to 199, and launch a shitload of Vita features and games. It will probably get PSOne classics support, more PSP downloads for the Vita PSN, and they will probably announce a bunch of new exclusives. Maybe a bundle. It will be a good E3 showing for them if they're smart about it.

Microsoft and Nintendo will coast on XBL/Kinect and 3DS content. Wii U be the big speculative show stopper. Hardware won't be a major focus for Microsoft until it's ready for market.

[JCU]

Sony needs to do something spectacular in regards to the Vita. Something strong needs to be shown before it becomes too late with the current flop known as the Vita. Four months or so since release and what's there to show? Promises? Target is having a big sale ($10.00 off) a number of titles for this paltry hand held.

If Nintendo is smart, it'll finally announce release dates of many highly anticipated 3DS games as well as announcing other fresh titles. Capitalize on the Sony debacle would be a strategic move.

[Zoltor]

Sony needs to do something spectacular in regards to the Vita. Something strong needs to be shown before it becomes too late with the current flop known as the Vita. Four months or so since release and what's there to show? Promises? Target is having a big sale ($10.00 off) a number of titles for this paltry hand held.

If Nintendo is smart, it'll finally announce release dates of many highly anticipated 3DS games as well as announcing other fresh titles. Capitalize on the Sony debacle would be a strategic move.

Agreed. Lol didn't notice that, a sale already(a whopping 10 bucks at that, what's that 1/3 of the whole price of most games) from a non GS retail store, yep that's bad(Target almost never has VGs on sale, they are pretty strict when it comes to VG prices).

[TheSonicRetard]

(Target almost never has VGs on sale, they are pretty strict when it comes to VG prices).

wrong.

[doomguy]

Nintendo has the most to prove for me, there is speculation/rumours from developers and people in the industry that the Wii U doesn't even match the PS3/360 Tech. it needs to seem like a significant improvement for anyone to care since at this point they themselves are underpowered.

[Zoltor]

Nintendo has the most to prove for me, there is speculation/rumours from developers and people in the industry that the Wii U doesn't even match the PS3/360 Tech. it needs to seem like a significant improvement for anyone to care since at this point they themselves are underpowered.

Why does it need to match the PS3/360? No systems needs even that much power to beginwith.

[Knuckle Duster]

Why does it need to match the PS3/360? No systems needs even that much power to beginwith.

Hmm... Maybe because PS3/360 standards are already 7 years old and it would be nice for Nintendo to remain competitive in the industry? :idea:

[old man]

E3 became irrelevant to me when they quit opening their doors to the public. It's just a dog and pony show at this point.

[EclecticGroove]

Hmm... Maybe because PS3/360 standards are already 7 years old and it would be nice for Nintendo to remain competitive in the industry? :idea:

No kidding, it's not like it takes any great processing power to output to at "least" 720p anymore. So they should be able to support some standard HD resolutions with enough oomph behind it to make them not look like complete upscaled garbage.

Frankly, they could put a system together with the 360's specs for dirt cheap now, and then spend the rest of their per system budget on the custom controller hardware... so there is no reason to not be at LEAST comparable to the ps3 or 360 spec wise.

[Zoltor]

Hmm... Maybe because PS3/360 standards are already 7 years old and it would be nice for Nintendo to remain competitive in the industry? :idea:

Nintendo is in a different league all togeter, in a path that doesn't revolve around graphic power. Nintendo doesn't need to try and compete with MS/Sony(lol sony is a crumbleing company, the last thing anyone should do, is follow in their footsteps. MS needs to work on their genre selections, among some minor issues, but aside from that, they are pretty well off, however do we need multiple companies walking the same path, hell no, so why would you want Nintendo to do the same thing everyone else is doing).

[Gogogadget]

The Wii U does need to be comparable to the 360/PS3 in terms of power, all those lovely engines not running on Ninty hardware for a second generation? Na.

[TheSonicRetard]

Why does it need to match the PS3/360? No systems needs even that much power to beginwith.

Developers are already compromising their games because of 7 year old standards. I can cite numerous games which, due to the Xbox 360 and PS3, have had to change for various technological reasons.


Nintendo is in a different league all togeter, in a path that doesn't revolve around graphic power. Nintendo doesn't need to try and compete with MS/Sony(lol sony is a crumbleing company, the last thing anyone should do, is follow in their footsteps. MS needs to work on their genre selections, among some minor issues, but aside from that, they are pretty well off, however do we need multiple companies walking the same path, hell no, so why would you want Nintendo to do the same thing everyone else is doing).

Nintendo has come to a complete standstill at the moment. They're losing money right now. Their service on the Wii is a joke, and people won't develop for it anymore. People aren't buying them, either. They absolutely need to keep competitive. You're a moron if you think Nintendo is completely divorced from the graphics arms race.

And Sony's gaming division is actually one of the only divisions which has kept Sony alive. Sony makes more than games, and the reason the company is failing is because their TV line has completely failed. Sony's gaming division is actually healthy.

Just shut up. You really don't know anything about video games, man.

[EclecticGroove]

Nintendo is in a different league all togeter, in a path that doesn't revolve around graphic power. Nintendo doesn't need to try and compete with MS/Sony(lol sony is a crumbleing company, the last thing anyone should do, is follow in their footsteps. MS needs to work on their genre selections, among some minor issues, but aside from that, they are pretty well off, however do we need multiple companies walking the same path, hell no, so why would you want Nintendo to do the same thing everyone else is doing).

What?

Nintendo lost tons of consumer support with first the n64 and then the Gamecube. They took a HUGE gamble with the wii and it paid off big time. Had it failed... well, it was low cost and their handhelds still sell like hotcakes.

They could probably afford the wii u to be just like the n64 and gamecube, but would obviously prefer it to be more like the wii. They need to improve, not just stand still. And that doesn't mean they need to be all SUPER MEGAL WII U with 768785686986bits of uber HD Graphics power!! It just needs to be at least somewhat relevant with technology that isn't almost a decade old.

[TailsAlone]

Here we go again with this guy...unofficial ignore feature, engage.

Nintendo needs to be honest about their sliding sales figures, tell us what they're going to do about pricing and why everyone, even people who weren't interested in the Wii, should want a Wii-U. You can almost guarantee graphics won't be the reason, but I don't care about that anyway. I want to know what their ideas are for future titles and if they're going to release a normal controller for it from the start, because that's just my preference.

Sony still hasn't given me a good reason to buy the PS3, let alone any PS4 that may be in the development pipeline, so that would be nice. They also need to make an all-out effort to salvage the Vita, not just with rhetoric but with releases, preferably some that gamers will want to buy.

And Microsoft...I just hope they can guarantee better quality hardware on their next machine.

[Zoltor]

Developers are already compromising their games because of 7 year old standards. I can cite numerous games which, due to the Xbox 360 and PS3, have had to change for various technological reasons.



Nintendo has come to a complete standstill at the moment. They're losing money right now. Their service on the Wii is a joke, and people won't develop for it anymore. People aren't buying them, either. They absolutely need to keep competitive. You're a moron if you think Nintendo is completely divorced from the graphics arms race.

And Sony's gaming division is actually one of the only divisions which has kept Sony alive. Sony makes more than games, and the reason the company is failing is because their TV line has completely failed. Sony's gaming division is actually healthy.

Just shut up. You really don't know anything about video games, man.

Lol when you announce you're coming out with a new system, news flash, people start dropping support for the current system, and start planning for the new system.

Nintendo themselfves has also dropped support for the wii, no woubt they are working on their new console around the corner, while trying to make the graphic centric 3DS somehow stay alive.

No they don't, they need to release the new console, and by all means release actual "original" quality games for the 3DS.

Sony has a real issue with separating their divisions, and the odds are high, when their gaming division goes belly up, it will cripple the entire Sony company, not even just the gaming division.

To Eclectic: Notice with both those systems, just like the 3DS, and virtual Boy, their design focus was graphics lol.

Don't worry your HD whore buts off(HD is so damn pointless), because Nintendo already announced last year, the Wii U would be a HD console, and hopefully that will make you graphic whores happy enough(It's hard to believe this is a retro gaming forum, literally every thread about consoles turns into a HD debate/complaint thread).

Can people talk about systems without pining over HD

Yes and they are improving, there's more to a systems then graphic power, which Nintendo showed off pretty well last year(although they should've put together a little bit more complex concept demos, then what they had, but they got the point across anyway).

[EclecticGroove]

Why would you not talk about HD when talking about current or next gen consoles? It's only a useless conversation when talking about older systems.

And if Nintendo made the SuperNES only display black and white, would you have defended it saying color isn't really needed to enjoy the games? No, probably not. They don't need to support the newest bells and whistles and pack in a thousand extra non gaming features, but they should at least support the basics well enough.

As far as HD not mattering, of course it won't matter to anything not made for HD, or only "made" for HD in the most basic sense of the word. It doesn't mean a better game, but it certainly means a better looking game if used right. And so long as the game is done well, there's no reason it can't also look nice.

[Zoltor]

Why would you not talk about HD when talking about current or next gen consoles? It's only a useless conversation when talking about older systems.

And if Nintendo made the SuperNES only display black and white, would you have defended it saying color isn't really needed to enjoy the games? No, probably not. They don't need to support the newest bells and whistles and pack in a thousand extra non gaming features, but they should at least support the basics well enough.

As far as HD not mattering, of course it won't matter to anything not made for HD, or only "made" for HD in the most basic sense of the word. It doesn't mean a better game, but it certainly means a better looking game if used right. And so long as the game is done well, there's no reason it can't also look nice.

When people are talking about older system, It's basically the same BS, cables this, cables that, oh and god forbid if a model doesn't have support for cables.

The games look very good as is without all this superficial HD nonsense. With that said however there is a real problem with games being HD only(atleast the modern take on the HD concept), god forbid you either have a non HD TV or don't have the HD setting on your TV switched on, all the text in the games are microscopic.

Is it too unreasonamable to expect there to be a HD/non HD settings in games( TVs have it, and PCs have all different kinds of settings. Talk about lazy developers)? This HD only nonsense needs to stop, since non HD wont effect gameplay, but a HD only game effects gameplay in a bad way, whenever text is in the game.

[Gogogadget]

Is it too unreasonamable to expect there to be a HD/non HD settings in games

Yes, it's 2012.

[Zoltor]

Yes, it's 2012.

Seeing how HD is overhyped nonense, they should have a non HD setting.

[Gogogadget]

HD isn't overhyped nonsense, it's the new standard, go to any department store, pretty much every TV will feature HD, if not Full HD. It's far superior quality wise to standard defenition and expecting them to comporise by supporting 'non-HD' is like asking for 4:3 support.

Seriously, if you want to play modern games at all why not just buy a HDTV? They aren't even expensive.

[Zoltor]

HD isn't overhyped nonsense, it's the new standard, go to any department store, pretty much every TV will feature HD, if not Full HD. It's far superior quality wise to standard defenition and expecting them to comporise by supporting 'non-HD' is like asking for 4:3 support.

Seriously, if you want to play modern games at all why not just buy a HDTV? They aren't even expensive.

Bcuase most new types of TVs suck to no end, the only exception is Plasma, and even then you need to go with Samsung to be on the safe side. Then besides all the technical drawbacks of the newer TVs, you have this widescreen only BS. Why is this a problem you ask, because for a gamer, they need a place for their systems, which widescreen TVs makes it a pain to find a place for such, since you can't use a wall unit.

[EclecticGroove]

err... what? "looks at my wall unit with a widescreen tv on it"

I really think you need to look at the things you say and like... google them at least.

There are issues with ALL TV types. CRT, Plasma, DLP, RP, LCD, and anything else I missed.

There is no such thing as a perfect display, and even the newest of them are getting better every year.

[sheath]

HD? Pfft. Everybody knows that HD Television is last year's technology. I mean cripes people, Sony's been pushing 3D TVs for years (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-pinning-its-hopes-on-3d) and they're always right.

[TVC 15]

Nintendo and Sony need a good E3.

Microsoft will not have to prove anything, nor believe they will. However they'll probably succumb to 3rd Generation product rot that all companys, Sega, Sony, Nintendo have all succumbed to at one point next gen. (Saturn/N64/PS3).

Nintendo for providing absoloutely no assurance or concrete information regarding the Wii U, despite demoeing the controller its all a lot of hot air at the minute until stuff is shown running on it. It will also get certain members of the community of Nintendo's back once the tech specs are solidified. Are we going Wii 1.5, with ageing tech a generation behind the next rounds competition, or something that will really push the boat out?

Sony to put some more confidence back into Vista, which is flagging a little, but I don't honestly think is doing as bad as some has suggested. I do however imagine it will be shareholders, investors and consumer commentators who will have most of there eyes on Sony at E3, since the Playstation brand seems to be the only segement in the whole company that has'nt been labelled as 'beleaguered' or 'out of touch'.

I think this E3 will preclude a sea-Change in the coming next gen, not just the general shake up of the status quo that always happens with new hardware but perhaps some massive changes in content delivery and protection.

[gamevet]

Seeing how HD is overhyped nonense, they should have a non HD setting.

Your posts are full of over-hyped nonsense.

[Silanda]

Sony. The company isn't in great shape going forward, and the Vita's sales figures are wretched at the moment (what with it being outsold by the PSP in Europe and Japan). They need to get some momentum going with the Vita before developers start to get nervous.

[JCU]

Sony to put some more confidence back into Vista, which is flagging a little, but I don't honestly think is doing as bad as some has suggested. I do however imagine it will be shareholders, investors and consumer commentators who will have most of there eyes on Sony at E3, since the Playstation brand seems to be the only segement in the whole company that has'nt been labelled as 'beleaguered' or 'out of touch'.



A little? The system has become a shelf warmer while the games warm the pegs. Some stores seem to be doing everything possible (short of a price drop) to push this hand held by offering a free memory card, discounting relatively new games or even now, giving away Unit 13 with purchase. Resistance is due out in a few weeks and unless something changes between now and then, it leaves a lot to be desired. What else can push this system?

[sheath]

The PSP, even when selling well in hardware, always lagged in software sales. Sony's loyal userbase doesn't seem interested enough in buying new games to float their platforms anymore.

[Cornholio857]

The games look very good as is without all this superficial HD nonsense. With that said however there is a real problem with games being HD only(atleast the modern take on the HD concept), god forbid you either have a non HD TV or don't have the HD setting on your TV switched on, all the text in the games are microscopic.

1) I haven't seen ANY HDTV with an "HD On/Off switch". Enlighten me.

2) If you power on your console that's connected to an HDTV and the text is "microscopic" it's because you have the console set at a low resolution. If you can't figure out how to change resolutions on modern game consoles then that's your own incompetence.

That's my two cents. Take it as you will.

[Chibisteven]

Bcuase most new types of TVs suck to no end, the only exception is Plasma, and even then you need to go with Samsung to be on the safe side. Then besides all the technical drawbacks of the newer TVs, you have this widescreen only BS. Why is this a problem you ask, because for a gamer, they need a place for their systems, which widescreen TVs makes it a pain to find a place for such, since you can't use a wall unit.

Learn how to properly configure an HDTV for older games and older programs to run in 4:3. While you're at, you may want to turn down the sharpness because too much outlines the picture and objects on screen with bright edges. Many DVDs are EDTV with 16:9 (480p), unless you're buying those panned and scanned DVDs often marketed as full screen (then you're screwed). And you don't use composite or S-Video for HD connections, it's component and HDMI for such connections. When in doubt read the manual.

And you don't need to mount an HDTV to wall, just get better TV stand at best.

[Zoltor]

Learn how to properly configure an HDTV for older games and older programs to run in 4:3. While you're at, you may want to turn down the sharpness because too much outlines the picture and objects on screen with bright edges. Many DVDs are EDTV with 16:9 (480p), unless you're buying those panned and scanned DVDs often marketed as full screen (then you're screwed). And you don't use composite or S-Video for HD connections, it's component and HDMI for such connections. When in doubt read the manual.

And you don't need to mount an HDTV to wall, just get better TV stand at best.

I'm sure It's not just a configure the TV correctly thing, It's well known how bad most TVs are at playing older games, It's not just me.

Wall mount/TV stands has nothing to do with what I was talking about, I'm talking about not being able to use a wall unit, which is a must for any gamer with more then a couple of systems. You either need to custom build a wall unit your self or use those crappy end table, wannabie wall units, which holds no where near the amount of stuff a real wall unit holds.

Hell with the price of good wood these days, and the fact widescreen TVs do nothing but waste space, it will probally cost 2,000-3,000 just to make a proper wall unit that could house a decent sized widescreen.

[MrMatthews]

Zoltor, you're doing it again...

[Zoltor]

Zoltor, you're doing it again...

Widescreen= the worst concept ever, wastes so much space, doesn't fit any wall units, custom making one may not even be very viable either(due to the length of that crap, I hope you have a pretty damn long wall or better yet, live in a mansion).

[Gogogadget]

Some HDTVs have a 'game mode' for smooth footage, mine doesn't but has no issue, coupled with 4:3 mode and playing retro systems over RGB (fuck consoles that don't support RGB), it looks like an emulator. Sure, this replicates flaws such as dithering but dithering is a terrible concept anyway.

And as for 'wall units', i've seen plenty that fit widescreen TVs but still have plenty of room for consoles, not sure what you're on about.

[jerry coeurl]

And as for 'wall units', i've seen plenty that fit widescreen TVs but still have plenty of room for consoles, not sure what you're on about.

I wouldn't worry too much about that... I don't think he knows what he's going on about himself!

[gamevet]

I'm sure It's not just a configure the TV correctly thing, It's well known how bad most TVs are at playing older games, It's not just me.

Wall mount/TV stands has nothing to do with what I was talking about, I'm talking about not being able to use a wall unit, which is a must for any gamer with more then a couple of systems. You either need to custom build a wall unit your self or use those crappy end table, wannabie wall units, which holds no where near the amount of stuff a real wall unit holds.

Hell with the price of good wood these days, and the fact widescreen TVs do nothing but waste space, it will probally cost 2,000-3,000 just to make a proper wall unit that could house a decent sized widescreen.





Widescreen= the worst concept ever, wastes so much space, doesn't fit any wall units, custom making one may not even be very viable either(due to the length of that crap, I hope you have a pretty damn long wall or better yet, live in a mansion).

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/Gamevet/Collections021.jpg

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I don't live in a mansion and my livingroom isn't some huge theater either. That's a 52" (120hz) LCD that I use for my PS3 and 360 in the livingroom. I've also had a Gamecube, NES and Genesis hooked up to it just to check out the image quality. The Gamecube and NES look just fine, while the Genesis looks just okay, but still better on a CRT like the 1080i/720p/480p/480i Sony Wega I use in my office. Not only does the Genesis look great on it, I think it looks even better than when I have it hooked up to a 27" Sony Wega (SDTV) I have sitting right next to it.

That black entertainment center was $500 less than what I paid for the Samsung LCD, and it's made out of real wood. And honestly, watching movies on a 4:3 set is a total joke.

I shouldn't have wasted my time responding to your post, but you set yourself up for failure far too often.

[j_factor]

I'm sure It's not just a configure the TV correctly thing

It's a "you're an idiot" thing.

[sheath]

It's a "you're an idiot" thing.

I play this for myself (http://piv.pivpiv.dk/) from time to time, gives me a chuckle.

[MrMatthews]

Widescreen= the worst concept ever, wastes so much space, doesn't fit any wall units, custom making one may not even be very viable either(due to the length of that crap, I hope you have a pretty damn long wall or better yet, live in a mansion).

Wait, so the average length of a wide-screen TV exceeds a normal-sized wall? What? Oh wait, now you're saying that wide screen TVs don't even fit in normal-sized houses? Huh?

And let's go back to what you said earlier, about wood and stuff.


Hell with the price of good wood these days, and the fact widescreen TVs do nothing but waste space, it will probally cost 2,000-3,000 just to make a proper wall unit that could house a decent sized widescreen.

How do you know how much wood costs? Better yet, how do you know how much wood costs today in comparison to how much it used to cost? Clearly you're implying that wood was less expensive at some point. How long ago were you talking about? Five years? Ten years? Twenty years ago? Were you keeping track of the price of wood back then, just in case you'd need that information later? Did you know you were going to make this post back then? Is seeing the future another one of your super-human abilities? I don't understand, can you explain this?

And two to three thousand dollars to build a wall unit? At least? Where did these numbers come from? Does this include the labor to build it or just the material? Are you using Koa wood, imported from Hawaii? Is that why it's so expensive? Are you planning to contract Norm Abrams to build it for you? Does this price include the cost of tearing down the wall and making it wider to fit the widescreen TV? Why am I talking to you again?

[Splatterhouse5]

Widescreen= the worst concept ever, wastes so much space, doesn't fit any wall units, custom making one may not even be very viable either(due to the length of that crap, I hope you have a pretty damn long wall or better yet, live in a mansion).

Are you talking about a 200 inch screen? That's practically the only way this post makes any sense. If anything, my 32 inch flat screen has created more usable space over what I had previously - A 32 inch fat STV that I could barely carry on my own.

[Cucollins12]

wii u

[EclecticGroove]

I built my own wall unit out of solid oak. Fits my 50 inch wide screen Plasma fine, even though it was originally built for a 30 inch CRT TV.
You know what also fits in it fine along with that TV?
My xbox, ps3, game cube, dreamcast, oXbox, model 1 genny + Sega CD, my saturn, my AV receiver + center channel + the l/r bookshelf speakers I have.
All of that plus some room to spare for controllers, cables, the odd game/movie case, and other misc bits and pieces.

Total cost? Couple hundred bucks and a week of my time. Tack on a bit more if you need to buy the misc brushes/cloth/etc, and have the store cut each piece to measurement for you (if you had no equipment).

[Knuckle Duster]

Zoltor hates Sony & Microsoft and is willing to throw HDTV's under the bus to prove a point about Nintendo's greatness. Rather than praise Nintendo's obvious high standards in game design and aesthetics, he opts to complain about the others by saying something kinda like:

"Dood, HD is overrated, you're an HD whore. Nobody needs it anyway. Nintendo doesn't compete becauae they blaze their own trail. They don't follow, they lead the way! OMG Nintendo is godly, if you think they're antyhign less than perfect, your a moron. like OMG. PS. I suck at english that isn't old english. thou art dead if thee attempts to argue or make me look stoopid."

Lets sum it up: Zoltor thinks - He knows what others really think, and disregards what they say when debating something. Sony is evil. Gamestop is evil. Microsoft is irrelevant. Korean MMORPGs aren't a niche category. Dreamcasts break and become unusable because of cache memory filling up. Wood is too expensive and not practical for home entertainment setups around widescreen HDTVs. HD consoles are just needless propaganda by Nintendo's competitors, and if you support it you're a graphics whore scumbag.


All the obtuse focus and self righteous passion put into defending old toys from an imaginary threat posed by new toys, and those who play with them.

Waste of life.

[sheath]

Lets sum it up: Zoltor thinks - He knows what others really think, and disregards what they say when debating something.

This seems to be the rule of the day for most Internet discussions. I haven't bothered to count how many times somebody told me what everybody thinks, much less thought ten to twenty years ago. It's odd that everybody tends to agree with these clairvoyants, but who am I to challenge their hive mind.

[Cornholio857]

...but who am I to challenge their hive mind.

You're someone who can back up what you say and provide credible sources(magazine scans, articles, etc) to back up your statements along with personal experience.

[EclecticGroove]

That's really my only issue with him. He can think whatever he wants about things. If he thought the Nintendo Game and Watch (as an example) was the best system with the best games ever made for all time. That's cool, no one said he needs to like anything else.

Other people liking new things does not diminish ones enjoyment of the old things. And anyone who likes new things is not under any obligation to no longer enjoy any of the older things either.

[Kamahl]

If he thought the Nintendo Game and Watch (as an example) was the best system with the best games ever made for all time.
It's NOT?!

[sheath]

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[JCU]

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That "Glamour" magazine was a nice touch! :p

I too have to deal with that.....among others.

[TailsAlone]

I want to add something to this.

Video games in color = worst idea ever. It's totally unnecessary and I don't know why they felt they had to take things in that direction. Sucked all the fun out of the experience. Hell, the old Atari 2600 had a switch for black-and-white TVs. They knew what they were about. Why can't it still be that way? All those flashy colors are a waste of pixels on the TV screen.

And once those pixels are used up, you can't get them back.

[Zoltor]

I want to add something to this.

Video games in color = worst idea ever. It's totally unnecessary and I don't know why they felt they had to take things in that direction. Sucked all the fun out of the experience. Hell, the old Atari 2600 had a switch for black-and-white TVs. They knew what they were about. Why can't it still be that way? All those flashy colors are a waste of pixels on the TV screen.

And once those pixels are used up, you can't get them back.

Widescreen literally does nothing for gaming or for TV vieving in general for that matter.

To Gamevet: What size is that TV(lol at FF 13 on screen), and where did you get that wall unit?

[Gogogadget]

Widescreen is excellent for TV, the viewing experience is far more cinematic and engaging when theres a wider display to be worked with, and it brings an end to horrible pan & scan movies which is a giant insult to the directors in the first place.

Please, just seriously stop talking when you don't know what you're on about, you clearly know nothing about cinematography.

[Zoltor]

Widescreen is excellent for TV, the viewing experience is far more cinematic and engaging when theres a wider display to be worked with, and it brings an end to horrible pan & scan movies which is a giant insult to the directors in the first place.

Please, just seriously stop talking when you don't know what you're on about, you clearly know nothing about cinematography.

No, more cinimatic would be if the hight was huge as well.

[AlecRob]

Could somebody tell what all this has to do with E3?

[Gogogadget]

No, more cinimatic would be if the hight was huge as well.

Films are wide, not high.

[gamevet]

Widescreen literally does nothing for gaming or for TV vieving in general for that matter.

It makes a big difference when watching a sporting event, like football or Basketball, because you can see the wide receivers and the edges of the basketball court, that are cut off on the 4:3 broadcast. It also works well for a game like Madden, where you need to see the whole field. Movies pretty much suck in 4:3, because the closeup shots show nothing but peoples faces and you miss all of the surrounding details; they're literally cut off.


To Gamevet: What size is that TV(lol at FF 13 on screen), and where did you get that wall unit?

It's 52", and if you had read my post you wouldn't have asked that question. That is not a wall unit, it's a 3 piece entertainment center that sits 2 feet away from the back wall, so I can get to the back to manage the media cables between the television, consoles, cable box and the A/V receiver.

If this is a joke account, it's pure genius. If not, God help you.