Virtua Fighter™ 5 now coming to the XBOX360

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SEGA ANNOUNCES VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 FOR XBOX 360

Premiere Fighting Game Franchise Makes First Appearance on Microsoft’s Next Generation Videogame Console

STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN (December 21, 2006) – SEGA of America, Inc. and SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced that the highly anticipated arcade fighting game, Virtua Fighter™ 5, will make its way onto the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system. Virtua Fighter™ 5 is scheduled for release on Xbox 360™ in North America and in Europe during late summer 2007. The game will also be available for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system on February 20th, 2007 in North America and will be available in Europe simultaneously with the system’s launch in March 2007.

“Those people lucky enough to have already played Virtua Fighter™ 5 will know that it’s laid the foundations to become the clear benchmark for fighting games on all next generation consoles”, said Matt Woodley, Creative Director, SEGA Publishing Europe Ltd. “Bringing Virtua Fighter™ 5 to the Xbox 360™ offers us a platform with power to handle the astonishing visuals, the complex and varied fighting styles of all the customisable characters and will undoubtedly put Virtua Fighter™ 5 into the hands of a gaming audience craving for a highly polished and credible fighting game.”

Virtua Fighter™ 5 features beautifully detailed stages from around the world where players face off in fast-moving martial arts battles against one of 17 characters. Two lively new characters join the elite group of fighters, adding two new unique fighting styles for players to try and master. With more skill and strategy than ever before, players are also given the opportunity to learn and employ the new “Offensive Move” technique to take down their opponents from different angles, adding a new dimension to the game and something for both new and old fans to master. Virtua Fighter™ 5 also includes the ability to customise characters by selecting from four base costumes and a wide range of unlockable accessories and earnable items. As players win more tournaments they will not only earn costumes and accessories, but also prizes and in-game money that will allow them to buy items from the in-game shop.

“The Virtua Fighter™ series from SEGA has one of the most prestigious histories in video games,” said Jeff Bell, corporate vice president of global marketing for the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft. “It’s a franchise that has grown an army of loyal fans both in arcades and on consoles worldwide, and is consistently rated extremely high by the media. Fighting game fans have been hungry for Virtua Fighter™ 5 and we can now proudly deliver this game with SEGA to Xbox 360 gamers around the world.”

Developed by the highly renowned Tokyo based development team, AM R&D Development No.2, Virtua Fighter™ 5 for the Xbox 360™ will be available across Europe and North America during late summer 2007.

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MGS4 is next. Then all we need is FF13, and PS3 is toast.

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for me tekken 6 if that comes to the xbox360 then the ps3 is dead to me

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SEGA ANNOUNCES VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 FOR XBOX 360
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Virtua Fighter™ 5 is scheduled for release on Xbox 360™ in North America and in Europe during late summer 2007. The game will also be available for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system on February 20th, 2007 in North America and will be available in Europe simultaneously with the system’s launch in March 2007.

:bang:

If we're listing titles that need to be 360'd, I want to add After Burner: Climax and OutRun2 SP: DX.

[108 Stars]

I hate Microsoft! I wish the 360 a miserable end!

[Joe Redifer]

Kikizo was right, they've been saying this for awhile now. I hope the Xbox360 version is as good or better than the PS3 version. I don't care about online play. Man, online play would kind of suck with Virtua Fighter since the game isn't forgiving of any kind of lag.

EDIT: I agree with the titles listed by Elusive that need to come to the 360.

[108 Stars]

I find it pretty strange that so many of you are so wild about the Xbox 360...
I don´t see why a Microsoft console should do any better than a Sony console... Microsoft hasn´t done anything great since entering the console-market, save maybe they have the better online-service, while Sony has at least taken a big part in making the video game market as big as it is today.
I´d like to see the 360 go down and PS3 and Wii sharing the market.

[InternalPrimate]

Wow. That is huge. Sony's lost a huge amount of exclusives in the last week or so. This, however, wont really matter in the Japanese market. More important is their loss of the Dragon Quest series.

[Benjamin]

Yes, I was glad when I saw this news at UK: Resistance. I still don't have an Xbox 360, but it's a far cheaper and better alternative to the PS3 for me when the only game I wanted for the PS3 was Virtua Fighter 5.

I still don't see this being a huge impact, even with the possibility of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy on the 360. It certainly helps, but would Japan's xenophobia allow the country to look pass its own system in favor of an American one? I doubt it.

[108 Stars]

Hmh, I wouldn´t be so quick in calling the Xbox 360 the better alternative since the PS3 is still new and many games have yet to be shown. I´ll buy neither PS3 nor Xbox 360 until the prices drop, and untill then the game support for both will be much clearer. The only games available on the 360 I find interesting are Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Oblivion so far...for the PS3 there is not a single one available yet. And in the future I see more important exclusive titles for PS3: The FF-games, Tekken and MGS 4. Resident Evil and many others will definately be available for both consoles, the question is how different PS3-versions look compared to their 360-counterparts.
Virtua Fighter is not a very important franchise outside Japan anyway. And so far the Xbox 360 hasn´t had much of an impact on the console market overall, so I think the battle is only about to start now.
The PS3 is expensive now, but prices will drop probably before the big titles come. And after all, the PS2 was by far the most expensive console ever by the time it was released (at least in Europe) and still took the world by storm.
And having VF exclusively or not won´t play a big role in the console wars to come...

[InternalPrimate]

There's no way Dragon Quest is moving to the 360. I was referring to its move to the DS and Wii. Nintendo is much more likely to succeed in Japan, and it's a big blow to Sony.

The reason people want to see Sony fail so badly is because they're in first place. It's natural to want to root for a so-called "underdog", even if that underdog is a multi-billion dollar corporation like Microsoft. If Sony were to lose their lead (and I highly doubt they will) people would want to see Microsoft or Nintendo fail in the next generation.

I've always been a big supporter of owning multiple consoles. I loved my Genesis, and I loved my SNES. I didn't take a side in that war. But it's different this time around. I think prices are ridiculous for both big time consoles (360 and PS3) and I don't like having new technology pushed on me (Blu-Ray). Right now I own a 360 and a Wii, but until the PS3 has a major price drop I'm going to stay away.

[Flash1087]

MGS4 is next. Then all we need is FF13, and PS3 is toast.

Really think it'll happen?

If it does, I won't ever have to buy a PS3. The pull of Resistance (as fun as it looks) and the new Ratchet and Clank (as much as I adore those games) won't be enough to get me to buy one if MGS4 is on the 360 instead.

[Dartagnan1083]

*addressed mostly at 108 stars

While I do think that MANY people are going to wait for a price drop.
It's going to take awhile for the PS3 to do that with me.
I only wonder what the next stop is after $599.
Whatever it is, it will still be too expensive.

Hell, I won't be getting a 360 untill I can either nab a Core for $100, or nab a premium for about $300 AFTER all the taxes. . .and that's only if things are going great (not right now since I quit my job for the holidays).

The loss of the previously exclusive VF5 pretty much eliminated the only confirmed exclusive I wanted aside from MGS4 (in as series that seems to enjoy platform jumping).

Of course I was also hoping for the eventual Shin Megami Tensei IV, as well as new titles from Sony's ICO team, but those haven't been confirmed yet.

And the last time I remember, Atlus tended to produce their best titles for platforms with a healthy enough distribution to generate profit.
Hell, Persona 3 was moved from the PSP to the PS2 since the PSP market is all shits and rotten turnips.

With a high price and lack of enticing titles,
it remains probable that the PS3 will have to play a serrious game of catch-up after the price drops from $600+ to something friendlier than even $400.
and if I remember correctly, the PS2 didn't drop that far in price in the 12 months it took to generate even 4 games worth $50.

as awesome as MGS4 promises to be, I don't see much else worth the now standard $60USD coming around by then to justify whatever the PS3 will cost just one year after retailing for $599.

By then, the 360 will have had a healthy library of nice titles (of which many will have fallen in price in both retail and used markets) and a possibly [if Micro$haft is smart] a cheaper console as well.

exclusives and accessability are everything in this market.
If you want zelda you need to buy Nintendo,
if you want Halo, M$
If you want VF5 you buy So. . .oh wait
If you want Dragon Quest you buy Playsta. . .Oh wait
If you want Squaresoft you buy Sony's st. . .wait. . .no


If there's a reason for the loss of exclusives it could be this
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Sony has LOTS of slack to pick up.
They can either crash and burn and leave titles to other systems,
or they can get a healthy helping of exclusives to justify the price.

at this stage it'll take a combined effort of all the below to get me to even consider spending $400 on the console (a price I still feel is a bit much). Keeping in mind that all must remain exclusive indefinately untill the console's death.
MGS4
Suikoden VI
Chrono-whatever justified suing the PC remake people
Shadow of the ICO Peanuts-Teacher-Speak Land
Shin Megamin Tensei IV
[insert GREAT titles in key-Sega-franchise here]
Gradius VI
[at least 3 other mindfuck awesome shmups]
[at least one original killer-App]


right now, the PS3 is looking too much like the OTHER $700 console that tried and failed awhile back (the 3DO). Even a $250 price cut couldn't save it.

[108 Stars]

right now, the PS3 is looking too much like the OTHER $700 console that tried and failed awhile back (the 3DO). Even a $250 price cut couldn't save it.

The difference is that the PS3 has support from almost all the third parties, while the 3DO was pretty much a dead born child.
I haven´t played PS3 yet, but the reason it sold so few units is that there aren´t any more available. It´s not like the demand wasn´t there.
I agree that the PS3 doesn´t have many exclusive titles left right now, but it doesn´t look any better for the 360. Halo may lose some of it´s past fame since games like the new Unreal are coming, and many FPS are coming generally.
Sony has to aid the developers in the production of their multi-plattform-titles to show the graphical difference between both consoles. If Resident Evil 5 for example happens to look almost the same on both machines, that´ll be a bad thing. Virtua Fighter 5 is not the big thing it was back in the Saturn days anyway (it never was really big outside Japan).
My problem with the 360 (aside being a Microsoft-product) is, that there has been not a single mindblowing title yet. I mean, yes, they look good, but from a new console I expect games that look way better than actual PC-games. That is not the case with the 360. This is what I hope the PS3 will bring. Looking at trailers like MGS4 or Final Fantasy XIII let´s me hope, but after all they are only trailers of games coming in the distant future.
At the moment, Sony has MGS4, Final Fantasy XIII and vs XIII, and Gran Turismo as potential exclusive mega-sellers.
Microsoft has Blue Dragon, Lost Oddysey, Splinter Cell and Halo 3.
Then there´s a big number of games that´ll come to both consoles, games where Sony´s hardware has to make a difference to justify the price...RE 5, GTA, VF 5, EA Sports titles and many all-new games.
The last group is franchises not yet known where to be continued: Tekken, Soul Calibur, Silent Hill, or a great many japanese RPGs.
We´ll have to wait a year or two to see a decision.
Personally I think both consoles aren´t worth their price regarding the games, and even if I wanted, I couldn´t afford even the 360.
My hope lies on the PS3´s side since Sony has done such a fine job with their first two consoles (especially the PS1) and so far, the only exclusives I´d want for the 360 are the Mistwalker games. Chances are good however, that the PS3 will become the overwhelming RPG-console it´s predecessors´already were. The launch days have proven that there are enough maniacs willing to pay the price until probably next year christmas. Many saw the PS2 dead when it´s price was announced, but it became even more successfull than it´s predecessor.

However, none of us is a fortune teller, so let´s just wait and see. The "old" generation still has plenty of games to offer we never had the time to play yet, so let´s just ignore next gen for now and wait ´till the fog has cleared!

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Really think it'll happen?

MGS4? Yeah, I think it's very plausible that we'll see it on 360 in addition to PS3. FF13, no, unless PS3 really tanks, but it won't be out until 2008 anyway.

The problem with Wii is that it's not really a contender for a lot of games. I mean, it's really hard to imagine the next Dragon Quest or Sakura Taisen on Wii. It just won't happen.

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The difference is that the PS3 has support from almost all the third parties, while the 3DO was pretty much a dead born child.

3DO had the support of many third parties. EA, Konami, Capcom, Interplay, Crystal Dynamics, U.S. Gold (Eidos), Psygnosis, Virgin, Sony Imagesoft, Activision, Time Warner (Atari/Tengen), BMG, T&E Soft, Hasbro Interactive, Digital Pictures, Acclaim, Mindscape, Taito, Microprose, Gametek, Origin... the list of third-parties who worked on 3DO is staggering. 3DO just couldn't retain their support.

[InternalPrimate]

The next Dragon Quest has been actually confirmed to be coming to the DS. A lot of people (including myself) see it as a stop-gap game. If the Wii is more successful than the PS3 in Japan, you can bet that DQ10 will be on the Wii. Remember, the Dragon Quest series has NEVER been about graphics.

[Joe Redifer]

Or entertainment.

[108 Stars]

3DO had the support of many third parties. EA, Konami, Capcom, Interplay, Crystal Dynamics, U.S. Gold (Eidos), Psygnosis, Virgin, Sony Imagesoft, Activision, Time Warner (Atari/Tengen), BMG, T&E Soft, Hasbro Interactive, Digital Pictures, Acclaim, Mindscape, Taito, Microprose, Gametek, Origin... the list of third-parties who worked on 3DO is staggering. 3DO just couldn't retain their support.

Konami or Capcom supported 3DO just with an absolute minimum. (Super SF II Turbo...wow, a game that looks like an SNES game on a 32-Bit console). Besides Crystal Dynamics and a few crap producers no company made serious efforts for the system. They were waiting for PSX and Saturn.

[InternalPrimate]

I love the DQ games :) I dig the minimalist stories and fun character customizations (obviously I'm talking about all games AFTER DQ2). I think it's sad that all the love for them went away when Final Fantasy 6 (three in the US) came out.

[108 Stars]

I love the DQ games :) I dig the minimalist stories and fun character customizations (obviously I'm talking about all games AFTER DQ2). I think it's sad that all the love for them went away when Final Fantasy 6 (three in the US) came out.

Well, and know with DQ IX most of the series old characteristics will probably be gone, thanks to the decision of making a DS-multiplayer game out of it.

[InternalPrimate]

It is making some major changes, but the style is still there. I love my DS, so I can't wait for it.

How did we get from Virtua Fighter 5 for Xbox 360 to DQ9 for the DS? :)

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Konami or Capcom supported 3DO just with an absolute minimum. (Super SF II Turbo...wow, a game that looks like an SNES game on a 32-Bit console). Besides Crystal Dynamics and a few crap producers no company made serious efforts for the system. They were waiting for PSX and Saturn.

3DO tanked. It's not often that numerous third parties put all their serious efforts on a new console, regardless of what that console is -- ie, the "serious efforts" never had a chance to come out due to the fate of the system. Very few third parties made big-time exclusives for, say, Playstation, in its first two years. 3DO's third party support was almost as good as anything else. The point was in comparison to PS3, and right now I'm not seeing how its third-party support currently is any better than 3DO's was when it was new.

[108 Stars]

3DO tanked. It's not often that numerous third parties put all their serious efforts on a new console, regardless of what that console is -- ie, the "serious efforts" never had a chance to come out due to the fate of the system. Very few third parties made big-time exclusives for, say, Playstation, in its first two years. 3DO's third party support was almost as good as anything else. The point was in comparison to PS3, and right now I'm not seeing how its third-party support currently is any better than 3DO's was when it was new.


No big titles of the same importance as MGS4, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry or GTA have today have ever been announced for 3DO. Don´t let a personal Sony-aversion affect your judgement. 3DO was born with too many odds against it and too few pros. Not as disasterous as, say, the Jaguar or the Amiga CD 32, but still far from being real competition. PS3 has the ridiculous price tag against it, but lots of great software in the pipeline, something 3DO always lacked.

[Dartagnan1083]

No big titles of the same importance as MGS4, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry or GTA have today have ever been announced for 3DO. Don´t let a personal Sony-aversion affect your judgement. 3DO was born with too many odds against it and too few pros. Not as disasterous as, say, the Jaguar or the Amiga CD 32, but still far from being real competition. PS3 has the ridiculous price tag against it, but lots of great software in the pipeline, something 3DO always lacked.

MGS4 has already been said to be do-able on the 360.
With the way RE4 managed to jump hardware (to a better seller) against the director's wishes, it's not inconceivable for it to happen over in Konami's camp.

FInal Fantasy Online already shifted,
and the XIII trillogy is being directed by Tetsuya Nomura, famed for his shit-tastic storytelling in Advent Children and Kingdom hearts. . .I'll pass on the purchase completely unless I find that his team manages to make if fun.

Resident Evil 5 is for both PS3 and 360, with a possible port to Wii as well as a unique title being made for Wii.

DMC. . .
you got me there.
provided they make it better than 3 was (it's not the difficulty, it was more or less the seemingly scripted battle plan the player needs to follow within each encounter with the way some stages are designed [as in fight the one by the stairs before the guy on the ledge].)

GTA
so far has been announced for 360 and not the PS3 as far as I know.



Right now,
A better analogy would be the N64.
Lots of potential right out the door
With lots of stuff from both first and third parties.
Ultimately ended up down the drain with shitty releases and held down by high software prices (and it even started out somewhat cheap) and dwindling support.

Comparitivly better graphics didn't help the N64 much in the end.
First party releases like OoT and Majora's mask were essentially little more than using the seat cushsion as a flotation device (particularly when compared to the rest of the library).


I'm not completely shut off right now.
It took the PS2 a year to garner more than 3 worthwhile titles (that were ALSO worth the $50 to buy them) and it ended up my favorite console this gen.
But things aren't faring well right now.
And things aren't looking good enough now or good enough down the road to spend anything more than $370 on for just the hardware.
Let alone the HD gear needed to use it to it's full, bloated, and over-hyped potential.

[108 Stars]

GTA
so far has been announced for 360 and not the PS3 as far as I know.

But it has been announced for PS3 as well. Rockstar even announced that the downloadable content for PS3 and 360 will be different.


DMC. . .
you got me there.
provided they make it better than 3 was (it's not the difficulty, it was more or less the seemingly scripted battle plan the player needs to follow within each encounter with the way some stages are designed [as in fight the one by the stairs before the guy on the ledge].)

I liked DMC 3, what I didn´t leke was part 2. You didn´t have to do anything but repeatedly push the button to defeat enemys you didn´t even see because of the camera.


FInal Fantasy Online already shifted,
and the XIII trillogy is being directed by Tetsuya Nomura, famed for his shit-tastic storytelling in Advent Children and Kingdom hearts. . .I'll pass on the purchase completely unless I find that his team manages to make if fun.

The storytelling of Advent Children can be forgotten, but it´s an action movie after all, and as that it does very well I think. And I love Kingdom Hearts.

What I want to say is that the Xbox 360 hasn´t got any advantages beside the lower price. It´s still waiting for it´s first exclusive killer-game such as Halo 3. The rest of it is more like good PC-like graphics, but nothing that blows you away. We have to wait until we see some major titles compete to tell which console is worth it´s price. The PS3 is right know only worth it´s money for hardcore-gamers, and so is the Xbox 360. No games you really need to play yet. And the HDTV equipment is a big problem for both consoles, for without HDTV the graphical advantages of the new generation are rather minor.

[j_factor]

No big titles of the same importance as MGS4, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry or GTA have today have ever been announced for 3DO.

3DO had Doom, Alone in the Dark, Need for Speed, Road Rash, Myst, Wing Commander, etc. Those may not sound like much anymore, but they were big deals back then.


3DO was born with too many odds against it and too few pros.

I agree, but that's irrelevant to the narrower issue we're discussing.


PS3 has the ridiculous price tag against it, but lots of great software in the pipeline, something 3DO always lacked.

I think 3DO had at least as much great software out and/or planned for it as PS3 does. The problem with the 3DO library isn't so much a lacking per se, but more the fact that most of its worthwhile games are available elsewhere. I don't see where you're getting this "lots" part from in regards to the PS3 -- it has a handful of key titles, but I'm not seeing long lists of noteworthy titles upcoming.

[108 Stars]

I think 3DO had at least as much great software out and/or planned for it as PS3 does. The problem with the 3DO library isn't so much a lacking per se, but more the fact that most of its worthwhile games are available elsewhere. I don't see where you're getting this "lots" part from in regards to the PS3 -- it has a handful of key titles, but I'm not seeing long lists of noteworthy titles upcoming.

Almost all of the noteworthy 360-titles are comoing to PS3 too.

[Dartagnan1083]

What I want to say is that the Xbox 360 hasn´t got any advantages beside the lower price. It´s still waiting for it´s first exclusive killer-game such as Halo 3. The rest of it is more like good PC-like graphics, but nothing that blows you away. We have to wait until we see some major titles compete to tell which console is worth it´s price. The PS3 is right know only worth it´s money for hardcore-gamers, and so is the Xbox 360. No games you really need to play yet. And the HDTV equipment is a big problem for both consoles, for without HDTV the graphical advantages of the new generation are rather minor.

The 360 already has Dead-Rising and Gears of War.
even then, It's not enough to justify the price right now (although I hear GoW is awesome).
But even still, there's more on the 360 that I'm at least interested in, as well as later on down the pipeline (provided the price becomes more convienient).

The PS3 right now is worth NOTHING (at $600) to ANYONE appart from the tech-junkies [with the Blu-ray] and Nomura-Circle-Jerkers [who reserved in full in hope of that FFVII remake/techdemo becoming an actual product].
I would say something similar for the 360 if it were without the handfull of decent titles it has right now. But as it is, Halo 3 comming out tommorow wouldn't make me buy one unless there was a $120 price drop to go with it.

The one thing I do like about the PS3 right now is that the Backwards compatibility is currently more fleshed out than the 360's broken Barbie-Horse Adventure including/PD-Orta excluding library.


As for the HD. You can at least enjoy some of the power of the 360 right now on non-HD sets.
While all the newfangled advantages of Blu-Ray [such as ruining StarWars by being sharp enough to show brush-strokes on Vaders helmet], and all the graphical PS3vsXB1.5 crap that Kutaragi and Kaz Iri jerk-off about is specific to HD.



but down to the wire;
-In my opinion; at this point the Xbox360 offers more justification, both now and later, in the form of software I want for the price of admission.

-Even still. . .while I CAN afford to dump the money on either (or even both), I don't want to spend $even $400 on any single item before taxes.

-The Xbox360 has titles I want now, as well as later.
So I'll be picking one up as soon as I can grab one on the cheap.

-While the PS3 lacks ANYTHING I want now as well as fewer titles than the 360 by the time Sony generously drops the price of the premium to $525.

-The high price and slow releases for the PS3, compared with the growth of the other consoles makes me wonder if I'd even bother years from now. Especially as the titles that made me WANT a PS3 have either been announced for another console (VF5), have potential of being on a different console (MGS4, MegaTen IV), or are so far off they haven't been made official yet (Gradius VI, Suikoden VI, Shadow of the Ico 1.8). Couple this with my schtick of not wanting to spend $400 on a console and and you have my problem.


on another note

Almost all of the noteworthy 360-titles are comoing to PS3 too.
why would I care if I already have a 360 with those titles by the time the PS3 is worth a damn (for gaming).
That would give me even less reason to gravitate toward a PS3.
A few extra pixels shaved off along with a downloadable level that will be released later on for the other version anyway won't do shit for me.
Hell, If downloadable content becomes the focal point of a multi-platform game, I'll know the main game isn't worth my cash in the first place.

[108 Stars]

Sorry, I just can´t see the amazing Xbox 360 titles. Dead Rising is nice graphically, but not so great gameplaywise. Gears of War features awesome graphics, but it´s just another FPS like so many others coming our way (UT 2007, Halo 3, Killzone).
If I look at the future 360 titles there is no greater number of big titles than on the PS3. It´s almost the same titles! That MGS 4 would be possible on the 360 doesn´t mean anything. The release would probably be like a year later, when the game has become cold coffe anyway. And back in the day Kojima once stated that if the Dreamcast was pushed to it´s limits, MGS 2 might be possible for DC too. It never came though.
I find it very disappointing what we´ve seen on the 360 after over a year now. And there´s not a great number of exclusives in the future. FF XIII, vs XIII, Gran Turismo, DMC and MGS 4 still give the PS3 the advantage imho.
I wouldn´t buy any of the new consoles for their actual price. But at the moment I wouldn´t even buy a 360 for 200,-$. It´s just not worth it.


As for the HD. You can at least enjoy some of the power of the 360 right now on non-HD sets.
While all the newfangled advantages of Blu-Ray [such as ruining StarWars by being sharp enough to show brush-strokes on Vaders helmet], and all the graphical PS3vsXB1.5 crap that Kutaragi and Kaz Iri jerk-off about is specific to HD.

HD is a question of the resolution. PS3 runs at a high res, and so does the 360. You´ll loose a great deal of quality no matter which of the two you connect to an old TV set. This will make the difference between the console smaller, but you will probably still be able to enjoy some of the PS3´s advantages in future titles, such as a better framerate when the 360 begins to stutter.

[Dartagnan1083]

Dead-Rising's Gameplay type appeals to me.
Gears of War is supposedly VERY well executed, which is what will separate it from other 3rd person shooters if what I heard is accurate.
Aside from that, there's the Half-Life 2 pack (with PORTAL), Blue Dragon, and VF5(the one that doesn't require $600) to look forward too.

As for MGS4 getting ported. . .I have a theory.
MGS2: Substance was released to a flegeling Xbox.
My guess the sales were dissapointing since most people that wanted it had already bought it on the PS2. So given that the core audience was with ps2, they just released both versions of MGS3 for PS2.
( on another note Gran Turismo is SHIT SHIT SHIT, in fact I hate any racing game that deprives me of the ability to STEER. and while the series is popular, I've never seen it as the kind of title that's good enough to sell consoles).

The MGS situation right now lends itself more to the possibility of a port. . .
Probably for the same reason that VF5 is no longer an exclusive.

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There will likely be a larger market to tap with either of the other guys even by the time MGS4 comes out.
This is what publishers generally respond to.
If the market is shit, you get shafed.


This is just my rationale for going with the Wii60-PS2 combo before waiting for the PS3 to hit a price that makes sense.
If you really need to own FFXIII right away or DMC4 right away, you're free to do so.
It's just specualtion at this point since I've never liked the software selection for ANY sony hardware within the first year of any of them.
The wild card here is the price tag that will keep me away even well after the PS3 gets multiple exclusives.

[InternalPrimate]

It's nice to visit a forum where debating the whole PS3 vs 360 vs Wii argument doesn't break out into all-out chaos :)

Like always, the better system depends on a persons tastes in games. One person may love Final Fantasy, and another may love Halo 3. The 360 and PS3 are both fantastic systems, and there's no way I'm not going to end up owning both, it may just be smarter to wait a little.

You can't really blame the PS3 for having few "must have" titles since it just launched. The first real "must have" for the 360 was Gears of War (or Dead Rising, again all based on preference), and that only took a year. Two years down the line is when we'll really see what each system is truly capable of. Until then, it's all speculation.

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Like always, the better system depends on a persons tastes in games. One person may love Final Fantasy, and another may love Halo 3. The 360 and PS3 are both fantastic systems, and there's no way I'm not going to end up owning both, it may just be smarter to wait a little.

Exactly. It´s no use talking the PS3 down after such a short period of time, and like always a waiting time of two years is recommended to see what really is the better choice.

@Dartagnan1083
Well, Gran Turismo is possibly by far the most popular racinggame series, so it is good enough to sell consoles...at least when a real new part comes out, not some HD remix of an old game.