View Full Version : I have SCART and RGB compatible. What do I need to get for my megadrive?
Kikoskia
01-14-2007, 06:02 PM
Yes, I looked it up. I do have both. I am happy about it, but I want to know exactly what I need to get to get it working for my megadrive. :)
Anyone able to help me? I have been looking online but I don't know exactly the name of what I am looking for.
Zebbe
01-14-2007, 06:30 PM
You need:
1 Mega Drive w/ AC adaptor + game
1 TV with SCART
1 SCART-cable for your Mega Drive
Since you are european, which normally sucks, getting a TV that supports SCART should be easy for you.
Kikoskia
01-14-2007, 06:36 PM
I have the first two and I have just ordered the third for it. :)
Well, I guess being europeran has it's advantages for once. :)
Joe Redifer
01-14-2007, 07:40 PM
Indeed.
108 Stars
01-15-2007, 12:42 PM
Since you are european, which normally sucks, getting a TV that supports SCART should be easy for you.
Well, I like being a European...:sorry:
If it isnīt about gaming, itīs a great place to live...
Wouldnīt wanna live anywhere else.:opa:
Zebbe
01-15-2007, 01:36 PM
You folks down on the mainland Europe call yourselves Europeans, because there is no other regional difference to make, like Scandinavia/Nordic for me and British for Kikoskia. Generally you also like EU, we don't. There is so much shame in the history of Europe, so therefor I only call myself Scandinavian, Nordic or Swede. It's good to live in some parts of Europe, like Sweden, but I would think it isn't better in the former communist countries than in America or Asia.
108 Stars
01-16-2007, 03:44 AM
It's good to live in some parts of Europe, like Sweden, but I would think it isn't better in the former communist countries than in America or Asia.
I certainly wouldn´t wanna live in Asia, it´s no paradise there if you actually have to work and live there.
As for America, it depends on where in America. Certainly not the very old-fashioned, conservative parts like Texas. I´d prefer a place like NY, where people have a more open mind and you don´t stumble across an oversized amount of patriotism.
Canada is good, or Australia. But I love Europe, and I like it´s history too. Plenty of wars, granted, but a very exciting history and at least around these parts a pretty liberal way of thinking.
You folks down on the mainland Europe call yourselves Europeans, because there is no other regional difference to make, like Scandinavia/Nordic for me and British for Kikoskia.
We could make other regional differences, like for example Germany and Austria in memory of the Holy Roman Empire Of The German Nation, but feeling as a part of a larger Europe is better. It is a feeling of "us" for many people, a feeling to stick together as opposed to the we-feeling of smaller groups like Skandinavian. We Americans. We Europeans. We western cultures. Hopefully one day We humans.
I can´t see the negative thing about that and it makes me sad if someone says it sucks to be European. As for Britain, mainly England has a british feeling. Many people there like Scottland or Wales don´t have a big we-feeling for Britain since they feel they are occupied countries. I prefer a community where everyone can have the feeling of being as good as any other member else. A new community such as the EU can give you that.
Zebbe
01-16-2007, 09:11 AM
I canīt see the negative thing about that and it makes me sad if someone says it sucks to be European. As for Britain, mainly England has a british feeling. Many people there like Scottland or Wales donīt have a big we-feeling for Britain since they feel they are occupied countries. I prefer a community where everyone can have the feeling of being as good as any other member else. A new community such as the EU can give you that.
I feel the exact opposite thing (about EU). They are just ruling us folks at the bottom of the pyramid, making extremely stupid laws. For example: I work with old people (home help) and sometimes evening and then the morning after. EU came up with a law that forbids two work passes closer to each other than 11 hours. That's causing big troubles in my business. Those EU folks are also sitting there deciding what is really a banana, what is really chocolate etc. like they have nothing better to do. They are also forbidding children to participate in baking in kindergardens. Like they know the personell there can't teach them about hygiene :confused:. Sweden has a monopoly of alcohol sales, because of people's health. EU is trying to stop that, they care more about money than health obviously.
EU is also extremely unfair since for example Britain don't need to pay anything (or very little) to be members, while Sweden has to pay a lot. They are also blocking non-Euro countries for exporting to EU, a very good way of preventing the poverty to decrease in the world. Then all those folks in EU gets paid for the rest of their lives, ~5 times my salary per month just for working there a few years.
After only two posts I may have pushed this discussion too far already. I think the We-feeling is better the smaller. As they say in France: "Vive la difference". We are all humans yes, but one of the nicest things about talking to folks of Sega-16 and other "international" communities, is to experience people who aren't like myself and still get along.
David J.
01-16-2007, 11:38 AM
Let me tell you the truth about New York State. There are next to no jobs, or any that pay very well. it is VERY expensive to live here -- even if your far, far away from NYC. I live over six hours away, and it ain't cheap. Other than a few big cities which I can count on one and a half hands... the rest of the state is VERY baren and a very redneck-ish. It's not as liberal as you think.
And Texas ain't all that conservative as your lead to beleive... Texas Accents piss me off.
TheGZeus
01-16-2007, 01:06 PM
I certainly wouldnīt wanna live in Asia, itīs no paradise there if you actually have to work and live there.
As for America, it depends on where in America. Certainly not the very old-fashioned, conservative parts like Texas. Iīd prefer a place like NY, where people have a more open mind and you donīt stumble across an oversized amount of patriotism.
Canada is good, or Australia. But I love Europe, and I like itīs history too. Plenty of wars, granted, but a very exciting history and at least around these parts a pretty liberal way of thinking.
First off, what part of Asia?
About half my friends are Japanese, and even those who really like America liked it fine there.
Hell, I want to live there(The demand for teachers of English is...existant).
Also, I think you have some common misconceptions about america. There are some VERY open-minded areas of Texas, and NY is RIFE with patriotism. 'I *Heart* NY'='I H8 Terrorists' in the USA.
Basically, you want to stay out of 'the bible belt' as those 'christians' are INSANE.
That's also where you'll generally find alot of the racism, mad nationalism and things of that ilk.
TheGZeus
01-16-2007, 01:16 PM
I feel the exact opposite thing (about EU). They are just ruling us folks at the bottom of the pyramid, making extremely stupid laws. For example: I work with old people (home help) and sometimes evening and then the morning after. EU came up with a law that forbids two work passes closer to each other than 11 hours. That's causing big troubles in my business. Those EU folks are also sitting there deciding what is really a banana, what is really chocolate etc. like they have nothing better to do. They are also forbidding children to participate in baking in kindergardens. Like they know the personell there can't teach them about hygiene :confused:. Sweden has a monopoly of alcohol sales, because of people's health. EU is trying to stop that, they care more about money than health obviously.
EU is also extremely unfair since for example Britain don't need to pay anything (or very little) to be members, while Sweden has to pay a lot. They are also blocking non-Euro countries for exporting to EU, a very good way of preventing the poverty to decrease in the world. Then all those folks in EU gets paid for the rest of their lives, ~5 times my salary per month just for working there a few years.
After only two posts I may have pushed this discussion too far already. I think the We-feeling is better the smaller. As they say in France: "Vive la difference". We are all humans yes, but one of the nicest things about talking to folks of Sega-16 and other "international" communities, is to experience people who aren't like myself and still get along.
You forgot that the EU is forbidding the use of lead-bearing solder.
The price, fallibility, and repair(read: replacement) costs of all electronics will skyrocket worldwide as a result.
My friend's repair shop has already lost warranty work revenue due to initial alternative solder tests in low-end units. The maker's instructions: "Smash it. We'll send another"
So far the EU has done one thing I find kinda neat: recognise Irish as an official language. This will FORCE the language to be taught much better than it is or has been since...well, since the occupations began damned hundreds of years ago.
Luckily the real decline only started about 50 years back.
I just thiink it's a beautiful language.
Elusive
01-16-2007, 02:42 PM
so how do i plug a cable into my tv again?
108 Stars
01-16-2007, 03:43 PM
@Zebbe
I know itīs not perfect. And the way the EU is trying to make rules for every unimportant thing is a big problem. But please do not think that the "big" European nations such as France, Britain and Germany are happy to treat folks at the bottom of the pyramid unfair; at least the people living in those bigger nations.
There is an open discussion about treating everybody equally, itīs not something people donīt care about and want.
But of course people think of themselves first. Low wages in eastern countries cost many jobs here and poverty has been groing constantly in Germany since the beginning of the nineties while prices are exploding.
The thought is, like in your buisiness: We have managed to grant people breaks between working shifts of at least 11 hours in our country so they donīt get overworked; so it is possible in any other country too. And since we are aiming at being one unity with common rules, we must try to find the best way possible for the community. Now if one country doesnīt obey those rules investors and companies will most likely just do their buisiness in that country where people work for worse conditions. If everybody is willing to go along with a common law, every country will be as attractive to buisiness as any other. This is why trading with foreign countries where people are treated like dirt, work 14 hours a day and live in poverty nevertheless must be restricted to a certain degree. The goal is a wealthy life for everyone, to meet at the highest rate possible. If we have to compete with countries where workers have about no rights it would end in us being drawn in their poverty rather than them becoming richer. And itīs not like we didnīt trade with outsiders at all; there are quite big masses of imports from such poor countries.
Thatīs the theory.
But the problems are that you have to find an acceptable middle way for every member, which is difficult since their industrial development, life standards and costs are still very different.
This leads to difficult times for everyone, including the "big ones" like us with our 4 Million unemployed people.
But eventually everybody will profit one day when the times of major changes have passed and if people donīt just turn their back on this giant project and say it sucks anyway. This I strongly believe and hope for.
We live in a world of global trading today, and this cannot be changed; people wouldnīt really want it to change anyway. To compete with giants like China, the USA or the Russian Federation we have to stand together as partners rather than being competitors. Our tiny nations wonīt be able to withstand the tsunami of those giants alone (or in such small groups as Scandinavia or Great Britain). The war in Iraq has proven that the many voices of a splitted Europe remain unheard. We have to speak with one voice. And, as the US suggests, we should be able to help ourselves without relying on the good will of the greater powers. That goes for military issues too. If the USA for example fell into the hands of an evil dictator (which is a very unrealistic thought of course) they could take every country here easily. And if someone else attacked we would have to rely on outside help today. I do not wish to be babysitted by the USA or anybody else forever. I want to live in a place strong enough to stand on itīs own feet. The EU is the only way to achieve that I believe.
Nations with traditions can be nice and will be preserved if the people want it. But in the past the "we"-feeling of smaller groups have lead to countless wars.
Damn, my home Germany, France and Britain have brought war upon each other so often in the last millenium that itīs a shame.
And I feel happy that we have finally tied the bonds of friendship and a war between us seems ridiculous now. And if that happens to as many other countries as possible as well, I think itīs a good thing.
I hope that the problems we all have now are problems of the process of building a better future.
I hope you understand why Iīm a fan of Europe.
First off, what part of Asia?
About half my friends are Japanese, and even those who really like America liked it fine there.
Hell, I want to live there(The demand for teachers of English is...existant).
South-East Asia is rather poor and a hard change in culture for a European. Japan is not just cool Samurai, Manga, used-panties-automats and games. Itīs a place of very big pressure in work, a place where many people almost have to live for their work. Therefor itīs a place of many people with psychic problems, especially the youth; a place that drives intelligent young people to lock themselves in the bathroom with their console not to come out again. A place where the line between tradition and modern craziness is so strict that those teens canīt take it anymore. And itīs a very expensive life too
Basically, you want to stay out of 'the bible belt' as those 'christians' are INSANE.
That's also where you'll generally find alot of the racism, mad nationalism and things of that ilk.
Yes, I mean those places where governeurs say that in their zone of authority the Bible is law, where homosexuals are looked down at and preachers are even allowed to go on the street and tell kids theyīll go to hell if they become homo. Where prisoners are treated like shit and have to live for less than a Dollar a day and the prisons principal (?) is proud to tell the world that his prisoners have to eat bread that has already turned green. Where there are fundamental communities who really believe George Bush was sent by God. And where people vote for Austriaīs most stupid export just because he told said some movie-lines.
So, what was the topic again? RGB?
Ah, yes. You just need an RGB-compatible TV and the cable. But be aware that Mega Drive 1 and 2 have different ports for the RGB cable, so you wonīt be able to plug a MD 1 cable into a MD 2.
I apologize for this huge off-topic post.
Zebbe
01-16-2007, 04:07 PM
Elusive: That's the pain of SCART. I hate it too.
108 Stars: By FORCING 11 hours of break, it causes trouble for some business, while other can use it. So, therefor it should just be an option the workers decide in my opinion. Some rules can't be applied everywhere in Europe, it just doesn't work.
Nations with traditions can be nice and will be preserved if the people want it. But in the past the "we"-feeling of smaller groups have lead to countless wars.
Damn, my home Germany, France and Britain have brought war upon each other so often in the last millenium that it´s a shame.
Yes, but that was before democracy came. There has only been one war between two democracies, and that was when Britain started it against Finland because they allied to Germany in WWII, nothing big happened of that IIRC.
I still think EU is too corrupted and takes away all power from the people to a very few. I can't say my life is better because we joined EU. I want an independet Sweden standing on its own feet, with friendly relations to all nations, with a democratic UN handling all conflicts and stopping povertry. More super powers like USA, EU, Russia etc. medling with their own wishes won't just work.
108 Stars
01-16-2007, 04:19 PM
108 Stars: By FORCING 11 hours of break, it causes trouble for some business, while other can use it. So, therefor it should just be an option the workers decide in my opinion. Some rules can't be applied everywhere in Europe, it just doesn't work.
It is meant for the benefit of the employees I think. They force 11 hours of break, so that your boss can´t force you to work like 10 hours, have a break of only 2 hours before you have to do another 10 hours (and in the consequence become burnt out and not doing your job properly anymore because your so tired).
I´m no expert in the situation in your job though.
I think the EU is one step towards a Star Trek-like united world. Splitted countries unite to a block, and one day hopefully the blocks unite to one world.
I guess I just have a more optimistic view to the outcome of things. Only time will prove who is right...
TheGZeus
01-16-2007, 05:17 PM
@Zebbe
South-East Asia is rather poor and a hard change in culture for a European. Japan is not just cool Samurai, Manga, used-panties-automats and games. Itīs a place of very big pressure in work, a place where many people almost have to live for their work. Therefor itīs a place of many people with psychic problems, especially the youth; a place that drives intelligent young people to lock themselves in the bathroom with their console not to come out again. A place where the line between tradition and modern craziness is so strict that those teens canīt take it anymore. And itīs a very expensive life too
Yes, I mean those places where governeurs say that in their zone of authority the Bible is law, where homosexuals are looked down at and preachers are even allowed to go on the street and tell kids theyīll go to hell if they become homo. Where prisoners are treated like shit and have to live for less than a Dollar a day and the prisons principal (?) is proud to tell the world that his prisoners have to eat bread that has already turned green. Where there are fundamental communities who really believe George Bush was sent by God. And where people vote for Austriaīs most stupid export just because he told said some movie-lines.
You've never been to Japan, then? That's a huge stereotype among those who do more than watch anime, but less than go there/actually know Japanese people.
It's a very hardworking country, but there's a reason it's pulling out of it's economic troubles on it's own without allying itself with larger countries.
Working for your company like it ACTUALLY IS YOUR COMPANY is a good idea.
The school systems are a bit strict there, but the thing is, once the kids get into the school(pass the exam) they don't really have to DO shit until the next one.
You WILL graduate Jr High if you show up the first and last days.
Alot of High schools are pretty easy, too.
Alot of the pressure comes from the parents and the students themselves. It's changing.
The change to 'modern'(read: western) culture was fast. Too fast. It's left a generation of culture shocked businessmen, and another of wannabes.
Make that 2 of wannabes. Wiggers got to Japan 20 years late. Jaggers?
Buh.
It's a country with a present that's more tolerable than all of America for me, and a future.
America has maybe 50 years before the REAL problems start, and then another 100 years period. That's all granting they survive the inevitable war with China.
California sucks. Period. I will not set foot there.
Most Texans are pissed at Bush for claiming to be from there. He's from North Carolina or some shit.
Also, on this idea of unification.
A little too 1984 for me. Also, think of the Revelationists freaking out once it's one isntead of 5(which I don't think will ever happen).
Failing to acknowledge the needs of different cultures within one system will lead to big conflict.
How many deaths did England's not releasing Ireland from their territories cost?(no, I'm not including the subsequent conflicts with North Ireland after the republic was formed)
108 Stars
01-16-2007, 07:18 PM
Also, on this idea of unification.
A little too 1984 for me. Also, think of the Revelationists freaking out once it's one isntead of 5(which I don't think will ever happen).
Failing to acknowledge the needs of different cultures within one system will lead to big conflict.
How many deaths did England's not releasing Ireland from their territories cost?(no, I'm not including the subsequent conflicts with North Ireland after the republic was formed)
1984 is different: Itīs a world of espionage where every footstep you make is controlled, and where you canīt speak or even think freely. Thatīs not what I talked about. Iīm thinking of a way of free living and free speech, just on a larger scale. Everywhere you want to go, your liberties should be the same. United States of America. United States of the World. This may be possible because through our great ways of communication today (and the way they are steadily advancing further), people have a chance of getting more and more information. Thus with more knowledge people should become able to understand what happens in this world without being intrigued by propaganda anymore. Common knowledge and common life situations should make it possible to make a united policy the majority agrees on. Of course thatīs only a theory, but I think itīs a nice one.
We have come far already from cities fighting each other to big blocks working together now, from taking slaves and treating others like shit. The UN is still corrupted and powerless by different circumstances of the member-countriesīlifes and needs. This can only change if everybody works together instead of against each other to solve the problems that lie between the worldīs nations today. Uniting so many small countries under one law aiming at a fair and good life for anybody in there like we have it now in the EU will decrease the number of different parties with different needs (=conflicts)
I talked about unification (in Europe today) as a need to compete in the changing world. And every EU member is free to keep itīs culture, at least today, and I doubt that will change. But most likely people will let go of many of their traditions by themselves as time flies by. Like with the Americanization in my country after WW2. You wonīt find much tradition here anymore.
The England-Ireland problem is a bit different: Noone is forced to enter the EU. A nationīs people have to vote for it or not. Joining a union must be a free choice. And the process of unification has been going on for many years now. The world has become small, we have worldwide trading. Uniting under one law is the logical consequence that is almost inavitable imho. Itīs a matter of time, and I donīt think it will happen during our lifespan. It sounds kind of utopian, I know, but to my grand-grandfather todayīs world would sound utopian too( " What? Germany and the French frog-eaters will have one currency?! Donīt make me laugh!")
Or maybe we will get into fighting again in 50 or so years when our natural ressources are gone. But I like the alternative of a growing unity kind of better.
And, in a united world...there will finally be no PAL-NTSC-shit and the likes, coming back to videogames-topic.;)
TheGZeus
01-17-2007, 02:51 AM
That's what MOST of 1984 is about.
One of the METHODS is the fact that there are very few nations and they are constantly at war.
The fact that they control large areas under the same systems allows them to influence the exchange of information over large areas, and thus control the perception of said war(s).
Pure deomocratic decisions force large minorities to do things they don't want to wuite often.
Imagine the losses that would have continued is Northern Ireland had been forced into the Republic!
Also, my point there wasn't just the fact that they were being forced, but that despite home rule being steadily increased, they still were subject to Britains laws, which they did not want a large portion of.
There will be groups of people wwithin these large super-nations that DO NOT WANT to be part of them for various reasons.
Many countries' cultures(many nations have multiple cultures) will NOT fit the laws.
They will feel resentment, they will protest, but since things will have moved toward pure democracy(it's what got the nation there) they will not be heard.
Pure democracy(and pure democratic decisions) is(are) just as oppressive as unicratic governments.
Even if most people end up happy with a decision, it's quite possible(and likely) that one ore more smaller, but still large groups will be offended.
We can't smoke in bars in the Twin Cities.
I know a hell of alot of non-smokers(ex-smoker here) who were just as angry as I was.
Laws should not be voted into use. it's supposed to go through an entirely different process!
"But most likely people will let go of many of their traditions by themselves as time flies by."
That's an aweful thing to say.
I'm NEVER eating Lutefisk, but I'd hate to see it vanish just because of some insane process voted in out of desperate competition with a country(China) bent on undercutting everyone else.
I'm sure there are a fair amount of German traditions alive. Thing is, I hate to say it, but the 'Allies' probably didn't really feel like Germany deserved to keep traditions. They didn't seem to be doing all that much for the countries around them. It was likely an attempt to stop a cycle.
Same with Japan(though some of their constitution is pure REVENGE. No porn allowed??? if that's not SPITE i don't know what is!). "The Emperor is NOT a God! He has NO POWER. You will make a DECLARATION IN PUBLIC TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE. You will have NO state religion. You will have NO standing army for anything but defense, and WE WILL BE HERE FOREVER."
The fact that different countries exist isn't the cause of problems.
The problem is that country is not ready to deal with other countries(Again, i'm leaving the USA ASAP).
There was a book written by a scientist that proposes the theory that science will always provide us with a new form of energy.
Every 20 years we've had 20 years of energy...
I need to read that book.
108 Stars
01-17-2007, 05:19 AM
Democracy will never make everybody satisfied. Thatīs not only the problem in super-nations, itīs the same in todayīs tiny countries too. People are different and you cannot create a new human being like madman Mao thought. That is impossible.
1984 is a negative utopia, but I do believe we are more likely headed to a positive future. And I strongly believe the falling of borders and selfish national interests are a good thing, but a thing that will need to overcomesocial and cultural differences. It is an ongoing developement, and it will go on.
In the end itīs not like one place in the world will rule supreme over the world. There are differences between the states in the USA too, and they can make laws for themselves to a certain degree. But there is one even higher power they have to obey. In the same way the national governments will always be making regional decisions. But a higher law will be established, one of even a higher rank than the president or the chancler or whatever. A bit like the UN, but with real power and with the people having something to say.
That's an aweful thing to say.
I'm NEVER eating Lutefisk, but I'd hate to see it vanish just because of some insane process voted in out of desperate competition with a country(China) bent on undercutting everyone else.
It may be awefull, but it is already happening. It is something that cannot be stopped in world of advancing technology and globalization.
Germany has lost itīs identity after world war II. In our case the process may have been quicker because it was forced. But people have steadily being forgetting what is left after that too.
Of course Iīm sad to think that for example the Americans have buried the statues of all our kings and emperors somewhere to be forgotten. We dug those statues out but...nobody really knows those historic kings anymore or cares to know them (well, very few do). Modern life has taken over and leaves no place for traditions. It may be sad, but itīs a fact. If people cry about their traditions vanishing but donīt follow them themselves they will disappear.
TheGZeus
01-17-2007, 07:35 AM
I don't think it's happening.
I think some people see it that way, but that's just what gets to the media to make it more accessable to the largest number of people. Play to the middle.
There are many traditions of europe, asia, africa etc. alive and well in the USA.
If they're dying in their countries of origin, that's insanely ironic, especially if you place the blame on us.
Granted, our (ex) Germans fought on our side... I'm not trying to be rude there, it's just a fact. Once the war was over, Oktoberfest in northern MN and Wisconsin was back on. There are many Polka bands and such... This is festival culture, but it still exists, and it's not changed much in the past 40 years.
I find it odd that you would think that KNOWING about other cultures would cause your own to die in favor of a homogenized mediocrety(that's how I see a world with one culture; a world with NO culture).
You seem to forget religious differences. Certain religions require their existence to take place in different countries. Islam by the book doesn't quite fit in a country with full gender equality(sad fact). Christianised laws(well, the big problem ones go back to Judaism, too) wouldn't sit too well with people in Thailand. These are beyond just traditions, and have lived for thousands of years. They might change, but they won't end.
Any utopia=pipe dream. All people are different and there always has bee and always will be a desire and thus need for places for other people to emigrate to.
108 Stars
01-17-2007, 08:28 AM
If they're dying in their countries of origin, that's insanely ironic, especially if you place the blame on us.
I placed the blame of the pace in wich it happened here on the US, not the process in general. I said that the process of traditions vanishing more and more in a world that gets smaller and smaller is natural and inevitable.
You have to admit that the last century was a century of Americanization. If people see an attractive way of living they take it over. This has happened in all of mankinds history.
Religions like the Islam are most present in an at this time underdeveloped part of the world. Science has been non-existent for centuries which led to stagnation thus making religion the center of thinking. Then religion got mixed up with politics. If science and own thinking progress in these parts, the Islamic nations will not be impossible to join with Christian nations. This turning back from blind following of holy texts took place in the western world as well. And from a Christian standpoint, man and woman aren´t equal either.
As for the American culture: For a culture of immigrants it´s natural to be a combination of others; but still Germany was more than Oktoberfest and Polka, and many things are gone. Perhaps German immigrants even sticked more to their traditions because they lived somewhere else. In a foreign world you are happy to have some things from home. The fact is that in Germany tradition and native culture don´t have great importance anymore. We eat more Hamburgers, Döner Kebaps and Pizza than we eat Sauerkraut. We do not learn anything about German history before WW 1. Most people don´t know the national hymn. The first time Germans had flags hanging out of windows was at the soccer world cup 2006...and they are all gone again.
People don´t stick to their traditions forever if something more attractive is at hand.
Sorry, I can´t explain it too well in English (mainly because I´m sitting at work here and my boss mustn´t know I´m using the Internet for my personal entertainment while I have work to do)
Edit:So, work is over. I just want to end this discussion saying that of course I do not wish a dictatoric world without cultural differences; I love the colorfull world, but I do wish to overcome the greed and animosity between the nations of this world. And I wish a world were everybody can emigrate to a culture of his choice but doesn´t have to because he has to suffer under unrighteous laws or poverty in his home. That is to be achieved only through a united and working juristication I believe. And Europe is in my eyes a step to achieve that for over 20 nations in time. I am willing to live with the drawbacks I have now in hope that the long time perspective will be a better one for every member, especially those who are poor now.
The change and decreasing of traditions and culture is not a thing I want, but a thing I see most likely to happen because that is what happens if people learn to know every way of life in the world. The "easiest" and most attractive (maybe only at first sight) ways will probably push aside many of the older ways of living.
TheGZeus
01-17-2007, 07:56 PM
I know many cultures, and since I've come to prever Japanese culture to America...I'm going to Japan.
The opposite happens. I don't see things going away, just emmiigration and immigration.
The problem is the mass media of other nations grabbing american 'culture' and CRAMMING IT DOWN THE THROAGHTS OF OTHER NATIONS!!! "FUCK YOUR LANGUAGE! FUCK YOUR TRADITIONS!!! SPEAK ENGLISH AND ACT 'BLACK'!!!"
LAME.
Thus, Irish is on the decline, The population of the Aren(sp) Isles is falling, and no one will know how to make the traditional sweaters in 4-7 years when all the 80 year old grandmothers can't do it...
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01-18-2007, 11:45 AM
Thus, Irish is on the decline, The population of the Aren(sp) Isles is falling, and no one will know how to make the traditional sweaters in 4-7 years when all the 80 year old grandmothers can't do it...
Yes, I know. Welsh is lost too I guess. So you are originally from Ireland? Where are you living now, in the US or Ireland?
TheGZeus
01-18-2007, 01:48 PM
I have a little Irish ancestry, but I guess I mainly just have an affinity for Irish culture.
I think it's a beautiful alnguage, I think it's a beautiful country.
I honestly think the problem is that people don't make their children learn these things and use them.
"but I wanna be a wigger/disco techno face/whatever!" TOO FUCKING BAD.
I mean, I wanted to wear my clothes backwards to school when I was little. TOO FUCKING BAD.
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