Beggar Prince: Official Thread

[Melf]

We had a great discussion about this wonderful new Genesis RPG over at the old board, and it must continue!

For those not in the know, Beggar Prince is a brand new RPG for the domestic Genesis. It was originally released in Taiwan, but the folks over at Super Fighter have localized it with the aid of the original publisher. It'll sport a true cart with label, as well as a manual and clamshell case-all for a cool $40. Oldergames.com will handle the publishing this time around.

I can't wait for this new release!

http://dfg.the-underdogs.org/bp/bprince7.png

More pics can be seen at the game's website (http://www.beggarprince.com/)

[Mel]

Hmm graphics as good as chrono trigger... Yum.

[Melf]

I'm hoping that it sells well so we can see more releases. Now that these guys have done a game, they've done the hard part, I would think. All the tools are done, all they have to work on for future releases would be the actual translations themselves, no?

[Mel]

I wonder if there were any non-rpg's that could be licensed and released. The one thing I hated about the Playstation generation is the death of the 2d platformer.

<sigh>

I miss sidescrollers so... They should have kept them around until now at least, so we could have 640x480 goodness like Guilty Gear X.

[Melf]

Could you imagine a Ristar or Rocket Knight Adventure like that? :shock:

[Mel]

I have a 32x dev kit, and a sega genesis dev kit. The problem is that I'm NOT an experienced programmer. Intermediate student at best. And I can't draw if my life depended on it.

If the community was bigger we'd have a greater chance of finding talent. So we must unite the Genny Addicts all over!!! =)

Besides if this is a success we have a publisher =)

[Drixxel]

Does anyone have any idea as to how the game plays? Those screenshots don't reveal much about the battle system, but I would assume it's your standard turn-based combat. I'm curious to know how deep the character customization goes.. magic spells simply appearing as your character levels up, having to purchase magic as you would equipment, etc. etc.?

[Genesis Knight]

I think everyone is asking that question. You could download the original Taiwanese ROM and find out, you know.

[Melf]

I haven't gotten around to doing that and I should. I want to see if there are cut scenes and such.

*Goes to find a download.

[Genesis Knight]

Tell us how it looks!

[Drixxel]

I realized that I already had downloaded the Taiwanese original about a month ago and had never played it (the game was incorrectly titled Breath of Fire 3). I haven't yet figured out how to get out of the first town, seeing as it probably involves fetching a random item from one townsfolk to give to another townsfolk who then opens up a way for you. I spoke to everyone in town hoping something would happen, but.. nope. Saving, at least I think that's what I'm assuming is the desired action by selecting the open book in your menu, triggers a quaint little screen of a crescent moon in the night sky with a castle fading in below it. The problem is, I can't figure out how to get out of this screen.. it just keeps repeating. You can even open up your menu during this, with only the open book being selectable, and that just starts the cinema over again.

The English translation will definately work wonders.

Anyways... here are a few more complimentary screen captures that reveal nothing of the gameplay.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4990/beggarprince015aw.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3899/beggarprince028xq.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4439/beggarprince037xz.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4214/beggarprince042nv.jpg

I just now noticed the FPS monitor.. ehh, whatever.

[Mel]

Great screen shots, thanks!

Do we have an estimated time for release?

[Genesis Knight]

The Superfighter screens look better...did they amp up the graphics?

These have those nasty black outlines around the sprites...

[Melf]

It was probably the way he took the shots, no biggie.

I haven't heard exactly when this will be released. I assume it has to be sometime this month or the next, no?

[Drixxel]

I took those screenshots with Kega Fusion.. it's probably just the default graphic smoothing from the emulator that's making them look a bit wonky, that and the image resizing. I'll take some more once I figure out how to make my escape from the town.

As for the release, as far as I know it's still uncomfirmed, but I wouldn't image it being any later than mid August. That's a complete guess, though.

[Drixxel]

Well, I've made some degree of progress with the game. After wandering about town talking to everyone and collecting various items, I finally did something worthwhile - picked a good ol' fight.

The battle system is deeper than I had assumed from the original screenshots. Instead of being a standard turn-based system, both you and the enemy have the option to perform several actions per turn before command switches over. Each action drains a portion of a meter (the red bar near the bottom right), and when the bar is empty, it becomes the enemies' turn and the same method is applied to the them. The entire enemy team shares a single bar (the green bar, upper right) rather than each individual foe having their own. The bars completely refill when turns switch over. These screenshots were taken in Gens, so there shouldn't be any zany blurring or other graphical odditites that may have been present in the last batch.

Anyways.. there'll be more as it happens. It seems like a fairly fun RPG, and looks to be worth the purchase on the grounds of being a good game rather than simply being a new game.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9313/beggar042kw.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4299/beggar054it.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8538/beggar011ss.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/1765/beggar024tk.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4985/beggar034vy.jpg

[Genesis Knight]

Our first real information as to the gameplay...

Thanks!

[Melf]

Holy shit, my frothing demand increases!

Great impressions Drixxel!

[j_factor]

my frothing demand increases!

bahahahaha

[StealthNinjaScyther]

Yeah, this game is really dense with the chinese characters... I do know the meaning of a few of them, but I really doubt that's gonna help.

Okay, so I downloaded the rom, here's my impressions.

-Character sprites are small, but have fun and quirky animations(at least the main character does.)

-The character actually has stuff to say when talking to people, not that common in my limited experience with rpgs.

-The walking speed is really fast. Fast enough that I'm wondering why there isn't a walk button.

-Battle and item menus have graphical representations. In battle the slingshot is for normal attacks, cane for magic attacks. Summoned me a big meteor type thing.

-Music seems like the typical rpg fare, but nice none the less.

-Can't figure out how to get out of town either. Think I figured out how to save though. In a house there is a beam of light and once you enter the book with the feather icon is accessible, assume this saves the game.

That's about all I can say so far, which isn't very far to begin with. I'd say though that the game appears to be something promising as everything so far looks to be quality. Hopefully the story is as charming as the graphical presentation.

EDIT: Okay, figured out how to get out of town. Gave the lone guard at the east gate this gray stone looking thing. This was after showing him the book, which I'm not sure was necessary or not.

Battles are random encounters. As far as I can tell, the system works like this: The pink bar represents your ability to attack. Normal attacks take off little chunks, magic takes off bigger chunks. So basically you can attack multiple times per turn. Then the green bar represents when you are vulnerable. Each attack against you, whether it hits or not takes off a little chunk. You are vulnerable until it is depleted. Which unfortunately means that if there is only one enemy it can still attack you multiple times.

For the magic attacks you choose the cane and then another menu pops up. The first available option is what allows you to select the meteor summoning spell. Also available to use at the start is a spiral icon which has a spell that appears to confuse enemies. Then there's the green star icon that has a healing spell. After leveling up you get a new spell under the green star icon which appears to make it difficult(impossible?) for enemies to hit you while still active.

Outside of the battles, which occured mostly in the cave I entered from the overworld map. There were buttons to stand on to deactivate walls blocking the path. Nothing too spectactular, typical stuff for an rpg. Seems like a good game so far. :)

[Melf]

Moved the thread to News Feed.

How did you take those shots? I couldn't find the screen shot option with Fusion (control + F12 did nothing). What did you do? Tell me!! :D

[Drixxel]

Screenshootin' with Kega Fusion? Shift + F12 during game play should do'er, Melf. It saves the screen shot as a .tga file, easily openable with Photoshop.

[Melf]

Shift and F12! I was pressing control. :P

Gotcha!

[Melf]

Ok, went back to the site and saw that this will have four save slots. Nice! It's only a 4MB cart, but that should be long enough.

God, I am so stoked about this!

[j_factor]

4MB is huge for a Genesis game. That's 32 megs! Bigger than Phantasy Star IV or any other RPG.

[Melf]

LOl, I was thinking 4Megs like on the Master System. :P

Damn, that's pretty huge then. Make me want to play it even more.

On that note, I was looking at how to get in contact with Death Adder from Super Fighter about an interview, but they have no contact info on their site. There isn't even an email address for site questions.

[tim333]

Well, at the bottom of the Beggar Prince page "Death Adder" is a mailto link for deathadder@superfighter.com.

[Melf]

I didn't see that! Thanks!

[Genesis Knight]

Was the original cart that humongous?

[Fang]

The graphics of this game when you wander around town look a lot like the legend of zelda animation from the gameboy games.

[CMA Death Adder]

Hello. I just wanted to step in quickly to say "thanks" to everyone here that is actively showing interest in the Beggar Prince game. I have noted your questions and concerns, and would like to say that all of the unknowns will be described in detail when the game is available for sale. This includes detailed overviews on combat, weapons, magic, etc.

Thanks for your support. It's greatly appreciated. ;)

[Melf]

Thanks for the support you're giving our beloved Genesis! :)

I'm too eager to play this. Can you give us an estimate as to when it will ship?

[Drixxel]

Death Adder, I was wondering - how will you be accepting payment for Beggar Prince? An online checkout, PayPal, money order..?

[Dartagnan1083]

'oldergames' is doing distribution.
So the usual electronic stuff should be expected

[arromdee]

Do characters in the original game really have names like "Arthur", as seen in the screenshot on the Beggar Prince website?

I hope the game is not excessively Americanized.

[CMA Death Adder]

Do characters in the original game really have names like "Arthur", as seen in the screenshot on the Beggar Prince website?

I hope the game is not excessively Americanized.

All character names have been preserved from the original Chinese release of the game: Prince Steven, Tom the beggar, Priest Sarah, Arthur, etc. The presence of "Americanized" names was completely the choice of C&E, Inc. and not of me. If it were the case that all characters had traditional Chinese names, I would have preserved them. ;)

The game never had an astounding amount of Chinese-specific names, details, or story bits, other than the main story itself being taken from Chinese lore. Rewriting the script I have kept with the original feel of the dialogue elements, but the overall quality of the plot and of the character development has been upped quite a bit. C&E produced a great game, but their script needed some retooling to help the overall product to shine just a bit more.

[tim333]

It sounds like a solid adaptation, and I'm anxious to see it. I know you've already seen this asked several times, but we really would be grateful if you have any estimate of a release date. A little over a month ago you posted on beggarprince.com that the game was close to an official release... Can you give us an idea of how close? :P

[CMA Death Adder]

I know you've already seen this asked several times, but we really would be grateful if you have any estimate of a release date.

I don't do release date estimates as I find it rather unprofessional. If you give someone even a hint at a potential release date and then fail to make it, you're destined to let that person down.

I will, however, be more than happy to post an official release date as soon as I am 100% certain of what it is and that it can be met with no problems.

But, yes ... my initial announcement was correct, we're not far from seeing the game released for sale. ;)

[crazyjoedavola]

This is great news. The Genesis seemed to always be lacking in good RPGs. I'm playing Light Crusader now even though it's not a true RPG. Can't wait for this new one though. Looks good.

[tim333]

Fair enough, Death Adder. Thanks for giving me a straight answer about it.

[tim333]

Hey, there's more news on http://www.beggarprince.com/ ... Don't have time to say anything about it, just a note for those of you not checking the site like I have been.

[Melf]

Sweet, they redesigned the site and everything.

[Sega Uranus]

I think this game looks amazing, but alas I will not be able to get it for awhile, for I already pre-ordered Nintendogs on the DS, and I bought a whole lot of Genesis games (to resell later). $40 is a little much for a Genesis game right now! Now, If I trade you Panarama Cotton, would you give me a copy of your game, and $100... wait never mind... :(


any plans to import other Genny games Death Adder?

[rmalina]

Does anyone else find it funny that the main character is "The Prince of Shatt"? I giggle every time I read it.

[Drixxel]

To be Prince of Shatt is one thing, but Shatt King? How embarrassing...

[rmalina]

I hope that this game can live up to the hype. It is difficult to bring out a Genesis RPG when there are RPGs coming out for PS2 all the time.

[Electroman]

That's not the point, I think.

People aren't going to buy Beggar Prince because its the newest, gloriest RPG out there. They are going to buy it because they love their Genesis, and are tickled to the fact that its a new release for it.

Same reasoning applies to the NEO AES hardware when Playmore was reintroduced to pick up the broken SNK pieces. Why did people (cough like me cough) pay $300 per game running on 16bit hardware when PS2 3D games were plentiful at $40 or less? Because we loved the hardware.

This isn't logical, but then playing or developing videogames aren't either.

[Drixxel]

Hopefully everyone that plans on buying it completely understands that it's a re-release of a Taiwanese RPG from the mid '90s, as such expectations are being kept reasonable. As it is, this game will pretty much exclusively be bought by the more hardcore sect of the Genesis community, so it's not like Beggar Prince will be competing for shelf space against Final Fantasy somethingsomething.

That being said, I hope the game sells well enough and that we're all satisfied with the final product.

[rmalina]

I am not going to lie, I am a huge Squaresoft fan, and have been royally dissapointed with Genesis RPGs as a whole.

However, I do love ATLUS and like the games they came out with.

I hope that this game is not another waste of a cartridge ;P, but I can assure you that I will be buying it.

[crazyjoedavola]

Yeah, I'm definitely going to pick it up when it's released. From everything I've seen, it looks to be a pretty good game and I just think it's cool that there is a new game coming out for the Genesis now.

[PimPassP]

Rpgs's Blow! and a jap rpg blows even more!!! The only cool thing about this is that maybe more sega games will be made if this does well. Make some more damn hockey and fighting games!

The pimp is off the hook!

Hola back!

ps. squaresoft sucks too, except for einhander!

[rmalina]

That is the most wrong post I have ever read on any forum anywhere. Period.

[Melf]

PimPassP: I've taken down your avatar, as it's not appropriate for this forum. Moreover, please refrain from trolling. If you're not interested in RPGs, then you don't have to post in an RPG thread.

[danielscheil]

in our german forum we have pre ordert ca 100 Beggar Prince Games it's not the question if you like this game

you must give thes great people Feedback ! and for ca 50 $ thats not so much !

the Reviews of the orginal Game are also good... so you buy a great Game

Genesis 2005 :-)

[CMA Death Adder]

I'm up at the Classic Gaming Expo (http://www.cgexpo.com/) in San Francisco, California, USA to promote Beggar Prince and I've brought along a final copy of the game (in cartridge form) that we're allowing everyone to come and experience for themselves. Cartridges are in production, the game will be available for sale very soon, so ... ;)

As far as the game 'living up to hype', I think that once a good deal of people have played a bit of the game here at the show and have a good taste of what it is, you'll begin to see some reviews trickle down. Use these commentaries to judge whether or not you feel the game is worthy of purchase, if you so desire. I doubt anyone will find problems with it; it's a great, solid game that we've put many quality hours of work into.

Oh, and the Beggar Prince website (http://www.beggarprince.com/) has been redone once again, from scratch, with new information and screenshots. Can you dig it? Yes you can. 'Cuz you've been waiting such a long time...

[Sega Uranus]

*drools for hours*

[Dartagnan1083]

I am not going to lie, I am a huge Squaresoft fan, and have been royally dissapointed with Genesis RPGs as a whole.

I'm NOT going to lie, I am dissapointed with Square™ RPGs that use Angst as a Plot Device. . .which is about 80% of them.

There are some I love, but others I can barely stand.
I guess it boils down to the person.



IN ANY CASE.
I think that in adition to love for the Genesis, people are buying it because it is a full fledged game that has a strong possibility of being a strong product (rather than a 4-bit frog simulator).

edited for context error

[j_factor]

I'm up at the Classic Gaming Expo (http://www.cgexpo.com/) in San Francisco, California, USA to promote Beggar Prince and I've brought along a final copy of the game (in cartridge form) that we're allowing everyone to come and experience for themselves. Cartridges are in production, the game will be available for sale very soon, so ... ;)

I was there. I didn't get to play it myself because this guy was hogging it, but I watched him for a while and it looked really nice. The battle system looked pretty cool and the translation was good. Hopefully I'll get to play it tomorrow. :)

[Genesis Knight]

Article! Write an article, I say!

[Melf]

I was there. I didn't get to play it myself because this guy was hogging it, but I watched him for a while and it looked really nice. The battle system looked pretty cool and the translation was good. Hopefully I'll get to play it tomorrow. :)

Would you be willing to write up a preview that we can post? As the only Sega-16 forum member there (that I know of), you have access to info none of us do! Something simple, like a couple of paragraphs detailing how it looks and plays in English would make a great article.

You must write, man! You must! You must! :lol:

[rmalina]

I am not going to lie, I am a huge Squaresoft fan, and have been royally dissapointed with Genesis RPGs as a whole.

I'm going to lie, I am dissapointed with Square™ RPGs that use Angst as a Plot Device. . .which is about 80% of them.

There are some I love, but others I can barely stand.
I guess it boils down to the person.



IN ANY CASE.
I think that in adition to love for the Genesis, people are buying it because it is a full fledged game that has a strong possibility of being a strong product (rather than a 4-bit frog simulator).

I think that is a pretty shallow analysis of Square games, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Does anyone know how much a copy of BP is going to cost?

[Dartagnan1083]

The price is speculated to be around $40 give or take.

As for Square, the only RPGs of theirs that stick out in my mind are the Chrono games, FFVI, and FF: Tactics.
FFX is nice but not exactly a favorite.

But I can sorta see why a Square fan would be dissapointed with efforts on the Genny.
At least you're giving other RPGs a chance. . .unlike a few Tidus/Square fillating girls from my high school.

[j_factor]

Fuck. Oldergames closed down their booth way way early, so I didn't get to play Beggar Prince. There isn't an emoticon that can express my sorrow.

[rmalina]

Actually, my favorite RPG is Earthbound. No game will ever have a plot quite like that.

As far as Squre, I enjoyed Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, FF2, FF3, FF7, and FF9. I hated the ones on PS2.

I really liked Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, and FF7, but I liked the Lufia Series more than the rest of the Square games I listed.

I just think that Genesis did a lot of experimenting with RPGs, and the experiments did not work out. They had some hits with Beyond Oasis and Crusader of Centy, but then you play Sword of Vermillion and want to throw up everywhere.

[Vicman]

...and yet Shining Force and Phantasy Star aren't listed in your Genny coverage, let alone the Lunar games for the Sega CD. Come on now.

[Electroman]

... but then you play Sword of Vermillion and want to throw up everywhere.

Comedy gold LOL

In all honesty though, I did enjoy SoV a bit, but don't care to do it again. At least the graphics were decent and the music was very good actually. I grew a tough skin with the fight scenes though.

[rmalina]

...and yet Shining Force and Phantasy Star aren't listed in your Genny coverage, let alone the Lunar games for the Sega CD. Come on now.

That is because I JUST got Shining Force 2. I have only played 2 of the Phantasy Star games. I played and beat both Lunar games on Playstation.

[Dartagnan1083]

Lunar 2 is better on Sega CD. . .at least gameplay wise.
You can also get Shining Force on GBA

[Electroman]

Lunar 2 is better on Sega CD. . .at least gameplay wise.
You can also get Shining Force on GBA

The loading times between fights must not have bothered you much then...

I did beat Lunar 1 on SCD; one of the top 3 RPG experiences I've ever had. Nearly cried at parts in all seriousness.

But I gave up after a few fights playing Lunar 2 b/c the loading times between fights were really making me question spending all that latent time just waiting. Imagine what I could do if I added all that waiting time together in one play session. I really wanted to give Lunar 2 a shot... but just couldn't.

[Dartagnan1083]

The load times simply didn't stand out too much when I look back on it.

Lunar 2 on SCD is actually my Favorite game of all time.
The PSX revision did expand the plot quite nicely, but it wasn't as fun with butchered gameplay.

[CMA Death Adder]

For those interested, I will soon be posting some photographs taken at the Classic Gaming Expo which reflect our debut of Beggar Prince. You'll be able to see the game, our prototype board, and the scallywags involved in its production and publishing. More news when I have all of the photos ready to go. :)

[Electroman]

CMA-

By chance, any video available of the game?

[CMA Death Adder]

Ahoy. I have added a page with photos from the Classic Gaming Expo, where Beggar Prince was unveiled in all its 16-bit glory. Feast your eyes on these:

http://dfg.the-underdogs.org/bp/cge2k5/

There are no videos of the game in action just yet, but I hope to have one or more available as time allows.

[Vicman]

http://dfg.the-underdogs.org/bp/cge2k5/photo14.jpg

That is such an hilariously awesome shirt! :lol:

[j_factor]

"One fan played the game for five straight hours as others looked on in excitement."

Fuck that guy.

[Melf]

I was thinking that when I saw the pic. "That's the guy j_factor was talking about."


You should have hit reset on him. :P

[Vicman]

Straight up. It's one thing to dig the game, and another to become totally oblivious to the fact that it's there as a demo for EVERYONE to enjoy. Why didn't anyone have the balls to tell him to quit and give others a try?!

[CMA Death Adder]

Why didn't anyone have the balls to tell him to quit and give others a try?!

To be fair, I recall him turning to face several people that walked up & showed interest in the game and asking them, "Would you like to have a turn?", as he gestured to them with the controller. So, I think to say f*ck him isn't so appropriate.

[Drixxel]

There are many people out there who out of politeness would have turned down the dude's offer to let them play, and instead wait for him to leave on his own. 5 hours seems a pretty excessive amount of time to be sampling a game on display, but hey, hopefully it will have convinced this particular chap to buy mutliple copies of sparkly new Beggar Prince.

[CMA Death Adder]

There are many people out there who out of politeness would have turned down the dude's offer to let them play, and instead wait for him to leave on his own.

And yet, no politeness here in the forum. I guess, if he reads the "f*ck him" posts, it's perfectly okay because it isn't face-to-face? Sounds less like politeness and more like cowardice.

[Vicman]

I guess, if he reads the "f*ck him" posts, it's perfectly okay because it isn't face-to-face?

Where'd you derive that from? One post said f#ck him. The others echoed the sentiment that what he did was rude and needed to be told so. Since I wasn't there my only avenue to express my annoyance is the forum. Face-to-face would have been equally suitable.

Sounds less like politeness and more like cowardice.

:? Cowardice from people that were running/viewing the demo? If we want to follow that logic then maybe so, because that's what it seems like since no one told him otherwise. It's unfortunate no one went up and let him know.

Was it sorta polite of him to gesture to others as if to say: "Do you want a turn?" Sure, but quite frankly that's half-assed IMO.

Now did I literally say f*ck him? No, I said someone should have had the balls, gone up, and asked/told him to quit the game and let others have a turn. Unfortunately no one did, and thus you maybe right that those running/participating/viewing the demo were cowardly instead of, in PC terms, being polite. What he did was indeed rude and inconsiderate of others at the con. If he's a friend of yours or if you just didn't care that he hogged the game for 5 fricken hours then I can see why you didn't have a problem with it. But from what it looks like to me, and what others there have said, we've interpreted differently; and some of us would have acted differently.

Nontheless, I'm sure it was a mix of some not caring (like yourself), others being polite (like Drixxel mentioned), and others being cowardly by not speaking up.

[Electroman]

I think "arcade ettiquette" should have been observed. For example, we all know that by placing your quarter down on the cab, reserves your spot for the next game.

[CMA Death Adder]

I'm certainly not pleased that some people didn't get the chance to play the game at the CGE, regardless of the reasons. What I am proud of, at least, is the fact that I was able to talk with everyone who showed interest in the game, getting their impressions and answering their questions. I appreciate all the interest that communites such as this one have shown in the game, and can't wait for the official release. ;)

[Vicman]

"...and can't wait for the official release."

That's damn sure. I know I can't wait Beggar Prince! Here's also hoping that you guys actually get to do Fengshen Yingjiechuan as well. Both games look/sound great. More RPG's on the Genny is never a bad thing!
:D :cool:

[j_factor]

There are many people out there who out of politeness would have turned down the dude's offer to let them play, and instead wait for him to leave on his own.

And yet, no politeness here in the forum.

Welcome to the internet. :)

I guess, if he reads the "f*ck him" posts, it's perfectly okay because it isn't face-to-face? Sounds less like politeness and more like cowardice.

Oh come now. Don't get your panties in a wad just because I lightly drop f-bombs. If you read my other posts, you'll see me say things like, "fuck that game." I'm not speaking in any literal or serious sense.

And maybe it was "cowardly" of me to keep mum at the time, but I'm not one to raise a scene over something relatively minor. Especially since at the time, for all I knew I'd be playing it the next day.

And just to set the record straight, I wasn't pissed at him personally (if I was really angry, yes I would've said something to him), and in fact I was much more disappointed in the fact that on the second day, they closed the booth 3 fucking hours early. I almost raised a fuss over it when I saw them packing up, but instead I holed up in the Intellivision booth and cried for a while.*

* this is also not serious. Just so you know. Thanks in advance.

In any case, do try to remember that I did say I liked what I saw of the game, and bla bla. I would like to emphasize that I think Beggar Prince is a tremendous service to gamers, and I commend you for your work. Despite the tragedy of not being able to play it at CGE, you can certainly count me as one of the first people lined up to buy it. What I really hope for is that you and others see a viability in these sort of releases and do much more of them. That would make me giddy like a little girl.

[Vicman]

That would make me giddy like a little girl.

I thought only I did that? :P

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1529/satan9vk.gif

[rmalina]

Mmmm classic RPG for 16 bit system.... droool....

[Genesis Knight]

The more I think about, the rather I'd get ten games for 40 than a single RPG. I can acquire both Shining Force games for that much.

[CMA Death Adder]

Hello, hello!

Surprising news from Super Fighter Team: We've completed development and production of Beggar Prince, our new role-playing adventure game for the Sega Genesis-Megadrive, and are now taking orders!

www.beggarprince.com

The game costs $40 + shipping and will be shipped in spring, 2006. The game consists of 32Mbit (4Meg) game cartridge with battery backup, color instruction manual and clamshell case.

Thanks for your patience while we finished up the production process. Your interest and support is truly appreciated.

Best wishes for a spectacular 2006. Never let dreams die!

[j_factor]

http://dfg.the-underdogs.org/bp/purchase.htm

You get the cart, a plastic case, and a full-color manual. "We have had each piece professionally produced from scratch: In other words, no recycled game cases or boxes have been used. We're talking 100% brand-new cartridges and boxes!"

Score! I definitely think this'll be worth the wait.

[Melf]

You got the email too, eh? :P

I'll have to wait until I get paid to order, but it will definitely be done. I just hope Spring means March and not May.

[j_factor]

Damn it, I just posted this in the news feed.

[Melf]

That's ok. I'd like BP to get as much promotion as possible so your life will be spared....



...this time. :P

[Joe Redifer]

I would like to see a pic of the cartridge and clamshell box. That'd be cool.

[David J.]

Lemme get some $$$ in the paypal account, and it'll be mine.

[landstalkerx]

I'll definitely be ordering one of these within the next few weeks, I might even pick up a second copy.

[Alianger]

yeah, me too.

[Elusive]

I'm not putting down any money until we get more than a few game screens and photos from a flash cart. Cover, manual, box, the works. Sorry, but the tards at Digitpress learnt that the hard way with that Generation Nex piece of crap XD

[David J.]

What was wrong with the Generation Nex?

[winona]

I hope it wont sell out untill the end of Feb. Planning on getting 2.

[Zebbe]

I've made my order. I trust Super Fighter Team and am really looking forward to play this game.

[Melf]

What was wrong with the Generation Nex?

- Unclear compatibility

I do think they went way overboard with the whole thing, but I can understand the disappointment.

I'm really eager to buy Beggar Prince but would like to see the packaging as well. No new images have been made publice, and it's about time we got to see more!

[Gary_Oak]

Is it Region Free or will there be an European version?

[David J.]

Yup, it's region free and they ship worldwide.

[Kikoskia]

I will probably end up getting it. The only problem is I hope I can save up enough money for it before they run out of stock. :(

[David J.]

Well, when I get paid, I'm going to buy it. Even if the game is pants, I'd be supporting something important. Well, kind of.

[Kikoskia]

And just think; we'll have a game that not too many other people do. :)

[Joe Redifer]

Will they ever ship this game? Or show pics of the packaging? I am beginning to doubt the project.

[Knuckle Duster]

Any news on this yet or what?

Did anyone get a copy?

[Joe Redifer]

I bet they ran into money problems and we won't hear anything for a long while.

Either that or the whole thing was a scam to get your pre-order money and run.

[Knuckle Duster]

I wouldn't buy it until I've got a rom to play anyway.
The "finished" copy was done months ago, why not release the rom?
The whole "But you should buy the cart to support the cause" statement holds little weight with me, If i like the rom, I'll pick up a few copies. I don't see why withholding the translation, should be effected by cart distribition time frames, Unless of course it is all about the money. I appaud super fighter team for a job well done either way.

[Zebbe]

If i like the rom, I'll pick up a few copies.

Everybody aren't like that. Just look at the mp3 business...

[Melf]

Any news on this yet or what?

Did anyone get a copy?

CMA Death Adder had this to say over at the Digital Press boards:

The first print run is set at 600 copies. If you'd like to call that a "limited run", I would certainly understand. There's not much profit in this endeavor, and the production cost is high. So, we can't print a large amount of copies in hopes that they mystically sell over time.

Unless any unforseen issues present themselves, we plan to begin shipping Beggar Prince just before June. In any case, all pre-order customers will receive notification just before the games begin to ship.

Sounds good. I can't wait to get a copy of this, but I'd really love to see the box and manual.

[Zebbe]

Just before June... That's exactly two months from here :/. I wonder what's taking so long. And they should bring more updates on the page.

[Elusive]

I heard this game will be 'impossible to run in emulators' - confirm/deny?

[Genesis Knight]

Who has preordered?

[Kikoskia]

Not yet through to lack of money and probably changing address before they ship.

[Genesis Knight]

Do you think they've been snapped up yet? Should I preorder now?

[David J.]

So, is this coming out or just a scam?

[landstalkerx]

I've pre ordered a copy. I suspect that there are more copies left over, otherwise they would probably stop accepting pre orders.

[Zebbe]

I've also pre-ordered. About a month left to wait now, if they hold their schedule.

[Genesis Knight]

I emailed them and they said there are still copies left. So I pre-ordered. =)

[Melf]

I don't think they're trying to scam anyone, so preordering should be a safe bet. What they're most likely doing is ensuring enough preorders before shipping. It's slower, but is a lot better cost-wise, I'm sure.

[CMA Death Adder]

Will they ever ship this game? Or show pics of the packaging?

We plan to begin shipping the game just before June. Here's a picture of the box art (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/temp/bpbox.jpg).

I bet they ran into money problems and we won't hear anything for a long while.

It has been a long while since I've posted here, due to the fact I've been rather busy, but I can assure you that we didn't run into any money problems. Everything remains on schedule as planned.

I heard this game will be 'impossible to run in emulators' - confirm/deny?

Confirm.

What they're most likely doing is ensuring enough preorders before shipping. It's slower, but is a lot better cost-wise, I'm sure.

Quoted from a post I made at the Digital Press forums:

"Despite our best efforts at protecting the game cartridge against piracy attempts, we would prefer to have an acceptable amount of orders on hand before beginning to ship the games. If piracy of Beggar Prince occurs, likely the amount of orders will decrease as people decide to rip us off by downloading a ROM copy rather than buying the complete game."

[Zebbe]

Wow, thanks for the update! The box art is great, with both the Genesis and Mega Drive logos as I wanted :D.

[CMA Death Adder]

Wow, thanks for the update! The box art is great, with both the Genesis and Mega Drive logos as I wanted :D.

Thanks.

Nothin' says lovin' like sticking two different system names on the box. Some might gripe that there's no Nomad logo tacked on, but that just would've been overkill.

[Melf]

I'm going to preorder mine this week via money order. Are you confirming preorder for those who pay by mail?

[Kikoskia]

A question. I was thinking of pre-ordering a copy, but I would probably be moving back home before you sent it out. Would all I have to do to make sure you send it to the right place be changing the address for the single transaction? As in, making sure I send the paypal transaction with the address I WANT it to be shipped to as opposed to where I currently live?

[Joe Redifer]

Here's a picture of the box art (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/temp/bpbox.jpg).
Nice. Not bad at all.

[CMA Death Adder]

Are you confirming preorder for those who pay by mail?

Yes.

Would all I have to do to make sure you send it to the right place be changing the address for the single transaction? As in, making sure I send the paypal transaction with the address I WANT it to be shipped to as opposed to where I currently live?

Yes. Either this, or send me an e-mail with the correct shipping address; just make certain to e-mail me from the same account that you have linked with PayPal.

[Genesis Knight]

I'm still excited, even after seeing the box art.

[Kikoskia]

Yes.



Yes. Either this, or send me an e-mail with the correct shipping address; just make certain to e-mail me from the same account that you have linked with PayPal.

Alright. Will do. I'll probably pre-order my copy either next week or the week after.

[highlandcattle]

Newbie here :d
Don't like the box art to much but I'm gonna order because the game looks hot.
I would have liked a modern looking box art instead of a retro look. It looks a bit cheap I think.

[Joe Redifer]

Just curious; what would "modern" look like? Do you mean like with a fancy 3D Genesis logo and perhaps an EA logo?

[Melf]

Cardboard boxes and xerox-tastic manuals!

J/k.

Welcome to Sega-16, BTW. :D

[highlandcattle]

@Melf thanks

@Joe I don't know just contemporary not something that looks like it was made in 1991 but a box that was made in 2006. Not to be offensive but is that art the Original?? I think you can easely find a much better artist (sorry that say it so rude)

[Genesis Knight]

I personally was hoping for the red system style of packaging instead of the '80s grid scheme.

[Genesis Knight]

Hey, they've got it at GameFAQs!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/genesis/data/931595.html

I didn't think they'd do that, since it isn't licensed by Sega.

EDIT: And hey, who gets to review this game for Sega 16 when it comes out? If it isn't claimed yet, I plant my flag!

[Zebbe]

Its best to have the old grid scheme because: a) its old school. And b) It was used for both the Mega Drive and Genesis boxes. The newer boxes in Europe weren't red, they were blue (the best looking IMHO).

[CMA Death Adder]

Hey, they've got it at GameFAQs!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/genesis/data/931595.html

I didn't think they'd do that, since it isn't licensed by Sega.


Hmm... company name reads, Gunho Online Entertainment. That's interesting, because I could've sworn that my company name was Super Fighter Team. Nothing like the internet to confuse-ify the facts.

[Genesis Knight]

Lol... Where do people come up with that stuff? It obviously should be GungHo instead of Gunho. =P

[Melf]

That's one of the reasons I decided to start master lists. GF's info is sketchy sometimes and other times it's completely wrong.

[landstalkerx]

Beggar Prince Ships!!!!

Hello!

Thank-you very much for your support and patience! We appreciate your order.

I'm excited to announce that your order (SF-001: Beggar Prince for the Sega Genesis - Megadrive) has been shipped this afternoon (May 22, 2006)! You should receive your order within 3 - 6 days...

- Brandon Cobb
President, Super Fighter Team - www.superfighter.com
"Never let dreams die!"

[Genesisdoes]

i got the email too!

[Genesis Knight]

YES!!!!!

But... I didn't get the email.

[Genesisdoes]

man, im in the process of playing beyond oasis and lunar 2, add this and im gonna flunk my finals next week!

[Genesis Knight]

Congratulations.

[Genesis Knight]

We see you, Death Adder... =)

[CMA Death Adder]

Hello!

It's not just a rumor: Beggar Prince for Sega Genesis - Megadrive is now shipping to pre-order customers! I'd like to thank everyone who placed an order for being patient. Your support is greatly appreciated!

Please check this link for information about the shipping process.

* shipping dates for pre-order customers (http://members.cox.net/superfighter/bp/shipping.htm)

Should you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me via e-mail.

Never let dreams die!

[David J.]

man, im in the process of playing beyond oasis and lunar 2, add this and im gonna flunk my finals next week!

If it makes you feel any better, I got a ton of D's this semister and for the moment my savings account is frozen.

[CMA Death Adder]

We see you, Death Adder... =)

Look no further than the Sega Genesis, and you'll see me for sure.

[Melf]

Shit! Car repairs (and Alien Soldier) kept me from ordering this. Am I still in time? Is there still a copy available for poor little Melf? :(

[Dartagnan1083]

so has this shipped yet?
I'm having trouble with the ol budget and am wondering if I'll still be able to get a copy if I preorder in a few days.

[Zebbe]

Hoho... Got the e-mail. If I'm lucky I get the game on Friday (on Thursday we have some kind of stupid "Christ heavenflight" holiday). I've been looking forward to this so very much, it makes me very excited!

[CMA Death Adder]

Is there still a copy available for poor little Melf? :(

Well of course there is - but if you are really looking forward to a copy, it's recommended that you order soon. Remember, we're only producing 600 copies for the first production run and there may or may not be a second production run.

I'm having trouble with the ol budget and am wondering if I'll still be able to get a copy if I preorder in a few days.

We'll welcome your order.

[Genesis Knight]

From the official site:

"As the pre-orders are concerned, there are two official release dates:

* If you placed your order between December 31, 2005 and March 22, 2006, your order was shipped on the afternoon of May 22, 2006 and should arrive within 3 - 6 business days. Please check your e-mail for further details, as a message has been sent to you regarding your order.

* If you placed your order after May 22, 2006, your order will be shipped at the end of May. You will be sent a confirmation e-mail once your order has been shipped successfully."

What about the people who bought between March 22nd and May 22nd, like me?

[CMA Death Adder]

What about the people who bought between March 22nd and May 22nd, like me?

Typographical errors are the bane of my existance. Well, one of them, anyway.

The text has been fixed in the appropriate spot:

"If you placed your order after March 22, 2006, your order will be shipped at the end of May. You will be sent a confirmation e-mail once your order has been shipped successfully."

Thanks for reporting that. The scouring eyes of cyberspace prevail once again.

[Genesis Knight]

I figured there was a typo, but I was hoping that it would be in my favor. Thank you for clearing that up, though.

By the way, I think this is great how you're responding to us and clearing issues up so quickly, Death Adder.

[landstalkerx]

My copy of Beggar Prince arrived in the mail today!
I probably won't have time to play it until tomorrow, but the packaging is quite nice. The case and everything else looks new and shiny

[Melf]

I just ordered mine!

[Genesisdoes]

I figured there was a typo, but I was hoping that it would be in my favor. Thank you for clearing that up, though.

By the way, I think this is great how you're responding to us and clearing issues up so quickly, Death Adder.

wow that was fast , mine still hasnt come :-(

[landstalkerx]

They are shipping from Santee (very near San Diego.) Santee happens to be about a 20 min drive from where I live, which probably explains the speed of shipping!

[Genesisdoes]

Ohh I see. Well I should be getting mine soon, I'm only a few hours away.

[Melf]

Check it out!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/The_4th_Survivor/beggarprince01.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/The_4th_Survivor/beggarprince02.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/The_4th_Survivor/beggarprince03.jpg

[Genesis Knight]

Where did you get those pics? Yours hasn't arrived yet, surely.

[Melf]

Got 'em off Digital Press. Someone just got their copy this week. I just ordered mine yesterday, and the USPS would explode if it got here so quickly. :p

[David J.]

What's the deal with the wear and tear? OTher than that it looks fab!

[Genesis Knight]

I was thinking that, too. Bad packaging for shipment? Come on, you'd think they could be generous with the packing popcorn.

[Genesisdoes]

It came today! I'm gonna go play it for a few hours

[Joe Redifer]

I have yet to order mine. I'm sure I will before the month is out, but I wanted to hear some actual opinions first.

[landstalkerx]

The packaging consists of a piece of newspaper and the card board box. My copy arrived in perfect condition though.

On a side note does anyone know what to do after you clear the first dungeon (tiger mountain, I believe its called?)

[Genesisdoes]

You have to return to town and get the other treasures to prove to the guards that you are the prince.

[Genesisdoes]

Oh my god. I just played for 3 hours and the game wouldnt let me save. Has anybody else had this problem?

[CMA Death Adder]

Oh my god. I just played for 3 hours and the game wouldnt let me save. Has anybody else had this problem?

Each and every game cartridge has been tested with special hardware prior to shipping to ensure that both the data area and the SRAM area are in good, working order. The visible proof of this is the single saved game that appears in slot 1 when choosing the "continue" option for the first time; it was a test save used to ensure there were no problems with the construction of the board as far as saving your game is concerned.

That said, you may only save your game while the prince is standing inside of a "time seal", or while you are walking on the world map. Saving your game is accomplished by pressing the START button during play, and selecting the icon of the pen writing in the book.

In order to save your game while inside a "time seal", the prince must be positioned over the "time seal" so that he is inside it (you'll see him, but the "time seal" will be swirling around his body).

Please refer to the instruction manual for more information.

[landstalkerx]

You have to return to town and get the other treasures to prove to the guards that you are the prince.

Yeah, I figured that out.

A Zero Wing dialouge refrence from the game:
"All your elder are belong to cats... Then he had better make his time."

[j_factor]

Anything that references Zero Wing is gold, IMO.

[Melf]

I want mine! Has it shipped CMA? Huh? Has it? has it?! :p

[Genesis Knight]

My frothing demand increases even more than Melf's does!

[Dartagnan1083]

just ordered mine.
I hope I wasn't too late.

600 copies are likely to dissapear fast.

[Genesis Knight]

"600 copies are likely to dissapear fast."

Not if they're being hand-addressed.

[Joe Redifer]

Is the game in stereo? Any digitized sounds? Any scaling, rotation, or FMV? Does it use the SVP chip? Does it use the extra 68000 and sound chips in the Sega CD if one is hooked up? Is it better than Traysia?

[supadupakoopa]

In response to Genesisdoeswhatnintendon't , to save the game go in a house there is a beam of light and once you enter the book with the feather icon is accessible, assume this saves the game.

[CMA Death Adder]

Is the game in stereo? Any digitized sounds? Any scaling, rotation, or FMV? Does it use the SVP chip? Does it use the extra 68000 and sound chips in the Sega CD if one is hooked up?

There are digitized sounds. Nothing uses the SVP chip. :)

[landstalkerx]

Is the game in stereo? Any digitized sounds? Any scaling, rotation, or FMV? Does it use the SVP chip? Does it use the extra 68000 and sound chips in the Sega CD if one is hooked up? Is it better than Traysia?

I haven't encountered any FMV's, and I haven't noticed scaling or rotation, but I haven't really been looking for it. As for using the extra chips in the Sega-CD, I doubt it. It seems to sound the best on my Genesis 3. The sound effects are clearer and more audible than on my Genesis 2.

Beggar Prince, (especially the battles) plays a lot like a Phantasy star game in my opinion. (although I haven't played too much PS.) As you probably know, the combat is turn based. You have the option to use magic or your weapon. You can also pick up armor, and faster shoes. I may be wrong, but I remember Phantasy Star having a money system, which Beggar Prince does not. From what I've played of it, and looking at the map, I believe that the game is fairly lengthy.
I really can't say if its better than Traysia or not, but I am thoroughly enjoying it.

If your still trying to decide wether to buy or not keep in mind that in buying it you will improve the chances of another game being released for Genesis in the future.

[Genesisdoes]

It's a good game, I'm having fun with it. I have however ran into a few bugs here and there, nothing too serious. I haven't played too many genesis Rpg's, so i dont know what to compare it to, but I'd recommend it.

[landstalkerx]

I've also encountered two bugs, neither of which are serious, nor do they detract from the game play.

On a side note, I'm stuck on the skull mountain, or at least I think thats what its called. I got the spear and went to the room with the place to save and all of the switches. I then made the boulder fall on the correct switch causing the other one to fall through the hole in the ground. However I have no idea what to do next...

[Genesisdoes]

go out of that room and then go to the room on the right of the next screen where it showed the splash and there will be a key, then use it to open the door and fight the boss.

[landstalkerx]

Thanks. I didn't notice that door (archway) on the right. The horizontal doors are kind of hard to see.

[Dartagnan1083]

So. . .
When is Sega16 going to hold the big Knife-Fight that decides who'll review the game?

[CMA Death Adder]

On a side note, I'm stuck on the skull mountain, or at least I think thats what its called.

The same thing happened to Scumo Veraldi; he ventured inside Skeleton Mountain, and was never seen again. Be careful, quick and cunningly courageous.

[Zebbe]

I got the game today. Haven't played it yet, but the packaging and all looks great. I think May 22 should be called "the annual Sega-16 Beggar Prince day" to celebrate the fact that we have a new release to our good ol' Mega Drive/Genesis :).

[Melf]

So. . .
When is Sega16 going to hold the big Knife-Fight that decides who'll review the game?

Sheath those blades; this baby's mine!

We will be having a special BP edition of Reader Rountable next month though, and everyone who bought the game is encouraged to participate.

[Joe Redifer]

That's a cool idea!

[Genesisdoes]

I've also encountered two bugs, neither of which are serious, nor do they detract from the game play.

On a side note, I'm stuck on the skull mountain, or at least I think thats what its called. I got the spear and went to the room with the place to save and all of the switches. I then made the boulder fall on the correct switch causing the other one to fall through the hole in the ground. However I have no idea what to do next...

Ya I'm at the same place but after you beat the boss and go out the door and open that treasure chest on the cliffside and the rockslide begins, I can't figure out what to do. Got any ideas?

[landstalkerx]

I had the same problem. Theres a rock in the bottom left corner that moves slowly left and then falls off the cliff. once it has fallen walk to where it was and fall off the cliff yourself.

Then you can go to the fairy garden. Its sort of a big open area. In the bottom left is the entrance to one village. In the bottom right is an enterance to another village, and in the top right is the entrance to a third village. In the far top right(next screen over) is the cactus (boss) that you have to kill.
I'm currently on the sand place (not sure what its called.)

[Genesisdoes]

ohh ic thanks

[Genesisdoes]

now im stuck in the desert... damn quicksand! I can get behind that temple but I can't figure out how to get around the cactus and quicksand

[kain611]

Sweet just got a Genesis from a garage sale today for $40. If everything works fine I'll be ordering Beggar Prince this weekend. Can't wait!

PS. I know I'd like to see some more games come out for the Genesis and would like to suggest Vixen 357 as well as Surging Aura. If at all possible that is :D

[Dartagnan1083]

I've heard of Save issues that prohibit you from saving if your genny is attached to a Sega CD or 32X.

Is there any truth to this?

[Genesisdoes]

I've heard of Save issues that prohibit you from saving if your genny is attached to a Sega CD or 32X.

Is there any truth to this?

I'm using a Genesis model 1 with a model 2 sega cd and had problems in the beginning, but after i erased the test save it has worked just fine.

[Genesis Knight]

Are you talking about Beggar Prince specifically, Dartagnan, or just saving games in general? I save my progress through the 32X all the time on my other RPGs.

[landstalkerx]

I've had no problems saving with my Sega-CD attached, I haven't tried the 32x though.

now im stuck in the desert... damn quicksand! I can get behind that temple but I can't figure out how to get around the cactus and quicksand

I haven't figured this out yet, either. I'll let you know when I do.

[CMA Death Adder]

now im stuck in the desert... damn quicksand! I can get behind that temple but I can't figure out how to get around the cactus and quicksand

Surely, someone within the Garden of Wonder should know something about that dangerous desert and its secrets...

[Zebbe]

I've heard of Save issues that prohibit you from saving if your genny is attached to a Sega CD or 32X.

Is there any truth to this?

Hint: read the manual :).

[landstalkerx]

Surely, someone within the Garden of Wonder should know something about that dangerous desert and its secrets...

I still haven't figured this out yet, but if I remember correctly, one of the people in the garden said that the entrance looked like quick sand until it was closely inspected. Then I realised that all of the quicksand flows in a clock wise direcion except for one, which appears to be inaccessable, that flows counter clockwise. Perhaps it is the enterance...

Translated from a chinese guide:
"Sand flow: Castle is a castle in the corner whirlpool entrance identify four kinds of goods (owls, dagger, legs, Fa Zhang) Based on these order items placed by the sun stone (Buda and Sweden) "
So the entrance is probably one of the quicksands.

[landstalkerx]

I still haven't figured out the temple, but I have found a hidden cave. On the west side of the fairy garden(out side of it) follow the mountain range North until you get to the top of it, where it meets the water. then walk down into the mountain that is second from the right.

There is also another cave to the west side of the mountains to on the west side of the desert. It doesn't really have anything very useful in it though. just bread, dynamite and a healing fountain.

[landstalkerx]

"... One bit of quicksand ian't a trap at all, it's a secret door. I had to look very closely but I'm sure of it now. It may be a secret entrance to the pyramid Even someone like you who can't fly should be able to find it if your careful. Walk along the far side of the pyramid to find this secret."

I'm pretty sure I know which one it is, I just don't know how to get to it...

[landstalkerx]

I've finally figured this out. When your heading to the back of the pyramid, you pass the left side. There is a space between a cactus and quicksand where you can get down to the front of the pyramid. Then go down and around to the right side and go in the quick sand that is flowing counter clockwise

[Genesisdoes]

I kept going behind the temple, I see now. Thanks

[Dartagnan1083]

I don't even have my copy yet.
if you read carefully, you'll notice that I only heard about saving issues with BP.

[Zebbe]

Ah yes, but I asure you that the manual will confirm what you heard, but you can save with the CD attached.

[Joe Redifer]

So it's true? I never, ever, ever remove my 32X unless I play a Master System game. Damn Korea. Or is it Tailand? Probably would have worked if developed on a Sega-brand SDK.

[landstalkerx]

I'm pretty sure its Taiwan...

[kain611]

So does anyone know the avialability of Beggar Prince? I won't be able to order it until almost middle of this coming week. Just hope I can still get a copy. Thanks all.

[Melf]

They still have copies left, but you'd better hurry. I think it's sold quite well and you don't want to be left out.

[Wesker]

I envy you guys. I would love having this Mega Drive symbolical release, but I can't even purchase it because of not having Paypal. Too bad. :(

[Genesis Knight]

So can you or can you not save with a 32X in?

[Melf]

I envy you guys. I would love having this Mega Drive symbolical release, but I can't even purchase it because of not having Paypal. Too bad. :(

Send them a money order!

GK: You can't play it through a 32X. You'll have to remove it.

[Genesis Knight]

What??? Oh, that's just silly. They can make it region-less, but they can't make it work with a 32X? I got rid of my SVP Virtua Racing just so I wouldn't have to keep switching. Back to those fun days I hearken again...

[David J.]

Don't you have a few Genesis systems, IIRC? Use one via A/V and another via RF.

That reminds me, I need a Model 2 Genesis and a Model 1 AV cable.

[Genesisdoes]

Translated from a chinese guide:[/QUOTE]

Where did you find this guide? I'm stuck on the haunted mansion now, can't figure out what to do!

[CMA Death Adder]

Where did you find this guide? I'm stuck on the haunted mansion now, can't figure out what to do!

The Mysterious Mansion isn't all that it seems - it's more! The prince must use his wisdom to explore the unseen.

[landstalkerx]

It isn't a full guide or anything, but Guide (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.famest.net/article.php/1404&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E6%2596%25B0%25E4%25B9%259E%25E4%2 5B8%2590%25E7%258E%258B%25E5%25AD%2590%26start%3D1 0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefo x-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)

Do you know how to get into the area behind the vines in the dungeon in the village in the top right corner of the fog forrest, nearby the armor?

[Joe Redifer]

Question:

Would Beggar Prince run/save with a 32X attached if it was running through a Game Genie? The Game Genie works perfectly through the 32X.

[Genesisdoes]

It isn't a full guide or anything, but Guide (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.famest.net/article.php/1404&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E6%2596%25B0%25E4%25B9%259E%25E4%2 5B8%2590%25E7%258E%258B%25E5%25AD%2590%26start%3D1 0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefo x-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)

Do you know how to get into the area behind the vines in the dungeon in the village in the top right corner of the fog forrest, nearby the armor?

Ya, theres a gap in the trees after you ride the second cart-lift thing, i'm not sure exactly where but if you stumble around that area you should find it.

[Melf]

What??? Oh, that's just silly. They can make it region-less, but they can't make it work with a 32X? I got rid of my SVP Virtua Racing just so I wouldn't have to keep switching. Back to those fun days I hearken again...

It had nothing to do with the translation. Apparently, it's something in the code itself that doesn't allow it to run through a 32X, CDX, X'EYE, or other Genny/CD hybrid. It does work fine with a model 1 or 2 Genesis connected to a Sega CD though.

[Genesisdoes]

works well on my genesis model 3 too!

[Zebbe]

Question:

Would Beggar Prince run/save with a 32X attached if it was running through a Game Genie? The Game Genie works perfectly through the 32X.

I don't think so since Game Genie blocks the save/load-function. At least it did when I played my asian PAL Shining Force through it.

[Melf]

It's the end of May! Has mine shipped? :D

I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it!

[rmal]

I can't wait for the second wave gets shipped out. I had preordered in January, but there was some error and mine wasn't shipped out with the rest on the 22nd :(. Although it was a slight bummer, I'll have Beggar Prince soon...I hope :).

[Genesisdoes]

I finally figured out what to do! lol I gained like 5 levels from just wandering around trying to find out where to go, putting me at level 20.

[Genesisdoes]

ahhh... I found a pretty bad bug, I mean besides all the small ones which don't bother me (graphics glitches, mostly) I was wandering around in the Boya Volcano when I went to exit a room, the following message came up and froze the game:

Address Error
4E96
1010101
4E90
2000
A8812
F0F0F0F0

luckily i'd saved the game around then.

[Zebbe]

I've had those kind of freeze up glitches several times, mostly in battle, but also when I spoke to the king who wanted me to kill the cactus. He (the king) devoured me and I couldn't do anything!

[Genesis Knight]

So much for shipping at the end of May.

[Melf]

Frothing demand +1

[Wesker]

Finally, i'm going to be able to pay with someone's paypal.

I would like to know if there still are units for shipping, if Death Adder can answer me.

[Zebbe]

I think they would update the homepage if units are getting very few. So why don't you just order now than wait until it is too late?

[CMA Death Adder]

I would like to know if there still are units for shipping, if Death Adder can answer me.

Yes, we are still taking orders. We'll welcome yours. :)

[Melf]

Any word on when late comers will ship? I ordered mine about a week and a half ago and desperately need a new RPG!

[Kikoskia]

Well, I just ordered my copy. I couldn't wait any longer. If I had, I might have missed this chance. :(

But yes, my order is placed. :) *sighs with relief*

[Genesis Knight]

I'm so jealous of these people who've gotten it already.

[CMA Death Adder]

Any word on when late comers will ship? I ordered mine about a week and a half ago and desperately need a new RPG!

I'll be shipping orders throughout the rest of the week. Watch your e-mail for the confirmation message.

[rmal]

Don't forget mine this time Death Adder :)

[Melf]

I'll be shipping orders throughout the rest of the week. Watch your e-mail for the confirmation message.

Sweet!

[Genesis Knight]

Yeah! My fingers tingle in anticipation!

[kain611]

I know i can't wait! Have to buy a big bag of chips and about a 30 pack of mt. dew. Although that new Dr. Pepper would work to.....decisions decisions decisions....

[CMA Death Adder]

Don't forget mine this time Death Adder :)

No, no - of course not. Your copy was shipped out this afternoon.

[Nazza]

I heard this game will be 'impossible to run in emulators' - confirm/deny?

Just wondering, is this because of some sort of anti-piracy code, or a bug?

I would be saving up to buy this if I wasn't already saving up for Alien Soldier.:(

[CMA Death Adder]

Just wondering, is this because of some sort of anti-piracy code, or a bug?

Both due to copy protection and emulators not being accurate enough.

[Genesis Knight]

Mine shipped!