Loudness of SegaCD 1 spinning? Normal?

[je2000]

Some CD players, even modern ones are just plain noisy. My ongoing problem with my Sega CD 1 playing burned ISO/wav's on CD-R's might have something to do with the machine, and not the burned CD's.

What kind of noise does it make? Mine is clearly making an audible noise and it sounds kind of off...hard to describe. My grinding went away because I think the gears finally fell into place after shipping.

Would anyone be so kind as to record the noise your Sega CD 1 makes?

Would anyone be willing to either A: send me 1 or 2 burned CD-Rs that you know to work in your machine? or B: let me send you 1 or 2 of my burned CD-R's so you can test in your machine? I'd pay for shipping of course.

My real Sega CD games play fine, just the CD-R's are having issues. I've used 3 different burners now. Do you think it matters if the burner is external or internal?

I just want to play Lunar dammit!!!

[playgen]

I would suggest burning the disks at the lowest speed you can, and using high quality CDR.

[evildragon]

mine makes no noise at all to be honest...

[je2000]

Lower than 4x?

All the guides online say that is fine, even higher is OK.

I don't think I know of any drive that burns lower than that. Am I going to have to find a drive from 1999 to get this to work?

And what in god's name is a high quality CDR? TDK, HP, and Verbatim are all reputable brands, no?

[playgen]

Well in your first post you didn't mention that you burned at 4x speed or used quality disks, which is why I suggested them.

Perhaps using a lens cleaning disk might help, otherwise try the disks you've burnt on another SegaCD if you know anyone with one.

[GohanX]

Both real Sega CDs I have are a bit on the noisy side, the JVC is pretty quiet.

However, I recall with my old Turboduo (I miss you :() the system's CD drive had to work a LOT harder playing CDR games than it did playing pressed originals. It would still work fine though.

There were two theories:

1) The old system can't read a CDR's information as well, so it has to "try" harder.

2) ISO files downloaded from the internet do not recreate the original disc perfectly. I don't know enough to get really technical, but it had something to do with ripping the game into seperate ISO and Mp3 files with a cuesheet, and when your burner reassembles it the data isn't exactly like the original. It was close enough to let the system boot, but load times were often longer since the drive kept looking on the disc to find the appropriate information.

Personally I subscribe to the second theory, since some downloaded games were like that, but the backup copy that I made of my original Dracula X game worked perfectly.

Like I said this is just a guess, as I don't routinely download/burn Sega CD games, but the file formats for the Turbo and Sega CD are pretty much the same.

[je2000]

Both real Sega CDs I have are a bit on the noisy side, the JVC is pretty quiet.

However, I recall with my old Turboduo (I miss you :() the system's CD drive had to work a LOT harder playing CDR games than it did playing pressed originals. It would still work fine though.

There were two theories:

1) The old system can't read a CDR's information as well, so it has to "try" harder.

2) ISO files downloaded from the internet do not recreate the original disc perfectly. I don't know enough to get really technical, but it had something to do with ripping the game into seperate ISO and Mp3 files with a cuesheet, and when your burner reassembles it the data isn't exactly like the original. It was close enough to let the system boot, but load times were often longer since the drive kept looking on the disc to find the appropriate information.

Personally I subscribe to the second theory, since some downloaded games were like that, but the backup copy that I made of my original Dracula X game worked perfectly.

Like I said this is just a guess, as I don't routinely download/burn Sega CD games, but the file formats for the Turbo and Sega CD are pretty much the same.

Sorry it's just frustrating...I got the same response 300 times in the thread I had going in the beginner Sega CD section.

Your explanation makes sense. Especially since some of my burned ISO/wav/mp3 CD's work fine with no errors or anything.

Perhaps finding bin/cue combination's of the discs would get better results?

[evildragon]

bin cue are perfect duplicates.

[je2000]

bin cue are perfect duplicates.

but horribly internet un-friendly. For me the ISO/mp3 thing has been hit or miss.

Mostly miss. The fact that my machine will play "real" games fine, and 1 out of 10 cd-r's fine makes me think it's just a fussy machine and needs a perfect copy to play.

I guess I'll be hitting up the torrent sites tonight, as I don't know of any bin/cue repository ala coolroms, etc. ISO/mp3 is smaller and easy to burn, so they're really popular...so not sure where to look for bin/cue's.

[GohanX]

bin cue are perfect duplicates.

Erp, nevermind, I should read more closely. evildragon is right :D

[evildragon]

but horribly internet un-friendly. For me the ISO/mp3 thing has been hit or miss.

Mostly miss. The fact that my machine will play "real" games fine, and 1 out of 10 cd-r's fine makes me think it's just a fussy machine and needs a perfect copy to play.

I guess I'll be hitting up the torrent sites tonight, as I don't know of any bin/cue repository ala coolroms, etc. ISO/mp3 is smaller and easy to burn, so they're really popular...so not sure where to look for bin/cue's.
I've never had a problem with ISO/MP3.. The thing is, you must have a fully functioning burner, and good media. I use AZUL mastering CD-R's, and while it works best I found, the burner actually making the disc counts too. I got an NEC, and 9 times out of 10 it's a bad CD the Sega CD can't read. And yet if I use a Matsushita and AZUL discs, it's 10 times out of 10 i get GOOD burns.

[je2000]

I've never had a problem with ISO/MP3.. The thing is, you must have a fully functioning burner, and good media. I use AZUL mastering CD-R's, and while it works best I found, the burner actually making the disc counts too. I got an NEC, and 9 times out of 10 it's a bad CD the Sega CD can't read. And yet if I use a Matsushita and AZUL discs, it's 10 times out of 10 i get GOOD burns.

Yeah...I have an LG, external drive, fairly new, it's a fully functional burner, dual layer DVD, 52x, all that jazz...

Just gonna have to keep trying different burners I guess. Either that, or purchase the actual games, which I think most are overpriced.