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FoxHound
03-04-2008, 12:19 PM
Can, you use a zapper gun or any other light gun on a LCD TV??
playgen
03-04-2008, 12:37 PM
Nope the refresh rates are all wrong, you can only use them on a CRT TV
TmEE
03-04-2008, 12:52 PM
its not really the refresh rate, but the fact that all pixels are refreshed at the same time, and they don't go "blank".. while in CRT a beam goes over all pixels pretty much one by one which of all began to go "blank" and this is what light guns rely on.
mick_aka
03-04-2008, 01:12 PM
The thought occurs... anyone know if the menacer or SNES scope work?
Joe Redifer
03-04-2008, 07:29 PM
They should be able to, but nobody seems willing to try it.

Also, CRT HDTVs won't work with light guns, either.
FoxHound
03-05-2008, 12:14 PM
They should be able to, but nobody seems willing to try it.

Also, CRT HDTVs won't work with light guns, either.


Is that including Plasma and DLP TV's?
evildragon
03-05-2008, 01:01 PM
Well, yes..

I got it to work on my HDTV by using a special scaler to output a 540p picture, and do no filter. The scaler is worth a LOT of money, and has ultra low latency, in which it was capable of seeing the "white" square.. However, it didn't always work..

Just get an old SDTV and save yourself the trouble.
FoxHound
03-06-2008, 03:43 PM
I have a older sony trinatron. It just a monster in my bar/game room. I wanted a flat panel of some sort for space saving, but this where I play the older games.
TmEE
03-06-2008, 04:14 PM
if the TV is CRT, then it shouldn't matter what it is... only thing that matters is that the gun must see the beam... only problem would be TVs with 100/120Hz rates...
evildragon
03-06-2008, 04:18 PM
if the TV is CRT, then it shouldn't matter what it is... only thing that matters is that the gun must see the beam... only problem would be TVs with 100/120Hz rates...
Wrong.

An HD CRT outputs 540p 60Hz approx 31KHz "usually" for 480i/480p content. When this is the case, they must upscale and deinterlace.

BUT, it's main problem is the deinterlacer and scaler introduce a DELAY.

The NES zapper does NOT work by a beam! It works by seeing either white, or black.. If black, it's a miss.. If white, it's a HIT.
Joe Redifer
03-06-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm glad the Sega Light Phaser doesn't work that way.

We don't have CRT TVs above 60Hz (actually 59.94Hz) here in the US.