CDX or X'Eye?

[atm55]

Which is better, the Sega CDX or JVC X'Eye? I have the JVC and enjoy it, but I'm not sure if it's compatible with the PBC, is it? I know both can work with the 32X, and play 32X CD's.

Which one has the quieter and/or faster CD-rom drive?

Which does the most?

Should I send my X'Eye to the closet, or not invest in a CDX?

[AlecRob]

Xeye is 20% cooler, at least.

(yeah I'm bumping this ancient thread, but I'm bored haha)

[Chilly Willy]

The CD for all SCD and compatible devices is 1X, so they will all be exactly the same speed. I don't know about the X'Eye, but the CDX is pretty damn quiet. The X'Eye requires the 32X to be unplugged to change CDs, which is a big problem if you're trying to play CD32X games. The 32X blocks the CD tray a LITTLE on the CDX, but not enough to make changing CDs a problem. I do like the looks of the X'Eye, but the CDX isn't bad... it's like the Saturn's little brother. :D

Finally, I know the X'Eye has more problems with flash carts than the CDX. I've not seen a problem with the MD-Pro, NeoMyth, or Everdrive on my CDX, while both the latter have been reported as having troubles on the X'Eye (namely reset trouble). Someone with an X'Eye posted a mod to the reset line to make it work with the NeoMyth over at the NeoFlash forums.

[Thierry Henry]

The CD for all SCD and compatible devices is 1X, so they will all be exactly the same speed.
Yeah I figured the usual talk of "the X'Eye is super rad because it has a faster CD ROM drive than the Sega CD making the load times much quicker" was a load of crap.


The X'Eye requires the 32X to be unplugged to change CDs, which is a big problem if you're trying to play CD32X games. The 32X blocks the CD tray a LITTLE on the CDX, but not enough to make changing CDs a problem.
I see this quite often as well where it's mentioned that with the 32X attached it creates a problem for the CDX in changing CD's.
Clearly these people have never owned a CDX and a 32X. As you say, the CD lid is blocked by only like a fraction. No problem whatsoever in swapping cd's.

[lumclaw]

CDX has superior Master System compatibility. PBC fits, and reset into SMS mode works. (used by Genesis flash carts)

X'Eye needs a workaround for both those things.

[Chilly Willy]

Yeah I figured the usual talk of "the X'Eye is super rad because it has a faster CD ROM drive than the Sega CD making the load times much quicker" was a load of crap.

The CD interface in the SCD is rather odd - it uses a standard audio CD drive; the SCD sends commands to it, and receives serial left and right audio data streams. The interface chip then changes the digital audio back into a frame of data for data tracks. I imagine standard 1X audio CD drives were the cheapest thing available, and the interface chip is an off the shelf part designed for cheap CDROM readers.



I see this quite often as well where it's mentioned that with the 32X attached it creates a problem for the CDX in changing CD's.
Clearly these people have never owned a CDX and a 32X. As you say, the CD lid is blocked by only like a fraction. No problem whatsoever in swapping cd's.

Well, not NO problem, but very little. It opens about half way with the 32X in place, so you have to be a little more careful reaching in to pull out the old disc, and putting in the new one. After a little while, it becomes second nature.



CDX has superior Master System compatibility. PBC fits, and reset into SMS mode works. (used by Genesis flash carts)

X'Eye needs a workaround for both those things.

Yes, I mostly leave my extra 32X off the CDX so I can use it for SMS games with the NeoMyth. The FM from the Myth through the CDX in SMS games sounds rather good. Overall, the audio on the CDX is excellent. I run the line out from the CDX to my sound system that I also use with my computer and PS2.

[Saturn Fan]

CDX because i don't believe the X'eye comes with V2.00 bios!

Why? Because you don't hear this gem upon start-up:

Best Sega CD Menu/Intro!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEcmzA2rEKQ

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I hate that bios. The music is pretty bad and the graphics aren't that great. The best one is by far the Version 1.00 that Europe had:

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[Saturn Fan]

I hate that bios. The music is pretty bad and the graphics aren't that great. The best one is by far the Version 1.00 that Europe had:

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Blehh! Its not terrible but its hard to put my finger on why i don't like it. Just sounds so "uncool".

V2.00 however, is such undiluted awesome! Its cool music and spacey visuals really convey the cutting-edge awesomeness Sega was aiming for with the Sega CD.

I otherwise like the X'eye and think its a sweet piece of hardware, assuming you can still find one these days in great shape. However, i just can't accept not having the badass V2.00 intro not greet me when i'm booting up some Sega CD goodness.

[xelement5x]

I'm guessing the reason the Earth looks washed out in the v2 version is because all the colors are being used for that gradiented Sega CD logo?

[TrekkiesUnite118]

The European and Japanese bios music sounds new and something you need the Sega CD to hear. The US versions not so much. This is especially true for Version 2.00. It just sounds like the Genesis is doing all the music. So the European Verison 1.00 bios I'd say has a bit more of a wow factor to it.

[Da_Shocker]

I so want to get a CDX but all of my money is committed right now. So I have been delaying getting a CDX for too long now :(

[Saturn Fan]

I so want to get a CDX but all of my money is committed right now. So I have been delaying getting a CDX for too long now :(


I bought a CDX new on clearance back in the day. It was a pretty solid little unit that played Genesis/CD games well.

[Solkia]

I think the CDX looks cooler.

[sheath]

I think the X'Eye looks way cooler than the CDX, and I prefer what the X'Eye does to the audio and video to that of the CDX as well.

[Assman]

Both are awesome, but based on my personal experience, I prefer the X'Eye. My CDX has noisy video and absolutely blows at reading burned CDs; the X'Eye has perfectly clean video and sucks up CD-Rs like nothing.

Still, the X'Eye does have its drawbacks. Master System games are a no-go with an Everdrive and certain sound effects seem to be a bit too loud and slightly distorted. Plus it isn't as much of a marvel to look at. I wish I didn't have the problems I did with my CDX, 'cause it'd be my number 1 otherwise.

[Team Andromeda]

I hate that bios. The music is pretty bad and the graphics aren't that great. The best one is by far the Version 1.00 that Europe had:

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Where's the outcry ? That's an Emu , The Mega Drive looks and sounds terrible through emu, that's not what it looks or sound like for real ....

[AlecRob]

My favorite sega CD setup will forever be my HDG SCD1 combo. :love:

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Where's the outcry ? That's an Emu , The Mega Drive looks and sounds terrible through emu, that's not what it looks or sound like for real ....

Because it's not relevant to the point here. After all we are simply comparing Sega CD bios screens.

[sheath]

I always thought the Sega CD model 1's bios screen was a tad disappointing. The FM music is too twangy and the PCM didn't sound enough like a warbly muffled SNES sound that I wanted at the time.

[Team Andromeda]

Because it's not relevant to the point here. After all we are simply comparing Sega CD bios screens.

Of course its relevant , but I bet you had trouble finding one taken from a actual Mega CD, not that it makes much difference as the emu sounds and plays almost exactly like the real thing .

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Of course its relevant , but I bet you had trouble finding one taken from a actual Mega CD, not that it makes much difference as the emu sounds and plays almost exactly like the real thing .

There was one a while back that was from real hardware, but I couldn't find it this time. There are others as well, but they are from cameras held in front of TVs.

As for sounding like the real thing, I hope you're not trying to use this to make some argument saying it's fair to use emulation to compare SNES and Genesis sound qualities. The Mega CD bios isn't using FM synthesis, it's not going to show those emulation problems. Emulation isn't relevant here, the point that was being made is that I like the Mega CD version 1.00 bios over the American one. No where did I make a comparison for console abilities. It was a comparison between the background image and the music being used, not technical abilities. Emulation vs Real Hardware is irrelevant here.

[Saturn Fan]

Where's the outcry ? That's an Emu , The Mega Drive looks and sounds terrible through emu, that's not what it looks or sound like for real ....


Genesis & Sega CD games look and sound great through Kega fusion and other well-made emus. Not that this matters as its derailing the subject from the real point....

....that Sega CD V2.00 bios kicks ass :D

[bultje112]

Which is better, the Sega CDX or JVC X'Eye? I have the JVC and enjoy it, but I'm not sure if it's compatible with the PBC, is it? I know both can work with the 32X, and play 32X CD's.

Which one has the quieter and/or faster CD-rom drive?

Which does the most?

Should I send my X'Eye to the closet, or not invest in a CDX?

the x-eye cd-rom drive is the fatest out there I've heard. about 25% faster than regular one I think. and also the sound is supposedly better but one look at the cdx and you realise. THAT is what I need

[Team Andromeda]

There was one a while back that was from real hardware, but I couldn't find it this time

maybe my one ?

Here's the real thing and there's next to no difference . Same goes for most Snes and MD emu's these days . They look and sound almost spot on to the real thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR2wnBhzI0E

[TrekkiesUnite118]

I wonder why it didn't show up in the search. Anyways as I stated for what the Sega CD bios is doing it doesn't suffer from emulation issues. The reason is that PCM is a bit easier to emulate than FM Synthesis. As for SNES emulators, it's been a known fact for quite some time that the more popular ones tend to enhance the audio by using modern filters and codecs that the SNES doesn't have.

[Chilly Willy]

the x-eye cd-rom drive is the fatest out there I've heard. about 25% faster than regular one I think.

Faster SEEKING to a position on the disc. There's no such thing as 25% faster transferring data... 1X is 1X is 1X. The next faster speed is 2X or 100% faster, not 25%. Faster seeking is not normally noticeable unless it's like 200 or 300% faster AND the game does LOTS of seeking.

[EclecticGroove]

I like the x-eye well enough, but I love the CDx, I was actually shocked at how tiny it actually was when I finally got it.

It looks silly sitting next to the Model 1 Genny + Model 1 Sega CD and they both do the exact same thing.

[Team Andromeda]

. The reason is that PCM is a bit easier to emulate than FM Synthesis.

Please stop it. There's plenty of Mega CD games that use the Mega Drive sound chip and they sound fine and almost exactly like the real thing .
That's the trouble here , we'll use emu when it suits us, but do a big outcry when it doesn't


As for SNES emulators, it's been a known fact for quite some time that the more popular ones tend to enhance the audio by using modern filters and codecs

A lot of Mega Drive ones do that too, if fact most emu's will . So you either need to stop using emu footage on this board (and fat chance of that happing) or just accept that if we here can link and use emu footage for MD games, so can others for rival systems

[TrekkiesUnite118]

For the love of god TA stop thinking in absolutes. It highly depends on what the discussion is talking about that warrants whether or not emulator footage is acceptable. In this conversation the differences between emulators and real hardware weren't relevant because we weren't talking about how a system really sounds or how it realistically compares. I've yet to hear a single Genesis emulator that sounds better than a real console.

I'm well aware that there are Sega CD games that use the Genesis sound chip. The Japanese bios however doesn't.

As for emulator accuracy lets compare shall we? Here's Starfox on a real SNES:

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And here it is on a popular emulator:

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[Team Andromeda]

As for emulator accuracy lets compare shall we? Here's Starfox on a real SNES:

LOL. Sound wise there's next to no difference but lets on purpose link a 3D game that used a extra chip and has shown with VR on the MD and 32X emu's can have issues with regards to speed of the game. And speaking of Emu there's a ton of classic Arcade games that used FM sound and no issues there, so you little exuse with the MD Fm is just that, even Neo Geo emu's are spot on these days for FM sound .

So keep on linking emu when its suits you

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Ok TA listen carefully to these two examples.

Here is the example you posted in the SNES vs Genesis thread:

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That is clearly recorded from an emulator. It sounds extremely crisp and clear.

This is that same song from a real SNES:

http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sites/default/files/sounds/Starfoxl1.mp3

Hear the difference? On real hardware it sounds lower and more muffled. The Drums and Guitars aren't nearly as clear as they sound in the emulated video.

In Genesis emulators Samples tend to sound more scratchy than they really do and in a few cases the FM or PSG is off causing problems. I know in Gens the Signpost Sound Effect in the Sonic games is completely wrong.

Here is Ryu's theme from Gens:

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And here it is on real hardware:
http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sites/default/files/ssf2files/Streetf2gen.mp3

Notice the percussion doesn't sound nearly as garbled on real hardware. Also the FM doesn't sound quite as tinny due to the real hardware having stronger bass.

[evildragon]

You notice how TA is hypocritical?

He will only allow real hardware Genesis demos, yet he posts emulated SNES videos.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Well he's essentially now trying to say emulation sounds identical to the real thing in all cases. So therefore us saying Emulated SNES sounds better than a real SNES and that emulated Genesis sounds worse than a real Genesis is just a lame excuse we are trying to fool him with.

[evildragon]

Wow, that's completely opposite of what he claimed before.

He changes the rules to make him right.

I vote ban TA!

[TrekkiesUnite118]

Why don't we just give him his own section where only he can post his wisdom?

[evildragon]

That'd be nice.

Like solitary in prison.

[TrekkiesUnite118]

We can call it The WonderMega Doctrine.

[bultje112]

Why don't we just give him his own section where only he can post his wisdom?

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[The Sports Guy]

I actually have no idea which one you should go with, as I have the X'Eye and it has a hell of a time reading cartridges. I assume that the CDX's small size lends it to breaking easier. I have no idea.

[cheaterdragon1]

X'Eye over the CDX because:

-Cool design
-Cool Bios screen and background music. Because of the X'Eye, North America got all 3 bios songs.
-Plays unchipped Mega Drive games out of the box, with no mods needed.
-Allows you to use your standard AV cable, instead of the proprietary one. Having two av outs has its uses too.
-Has a very sharp picture to it. You'd swear it was S-Video.
-Cool design
-Works for karoke I believe
-Built very well. Don't see broken X eyes very often.

The CDX does have a few advantages including it's size, better 32x/master system compatibility, and better pack in games.

[GohanX]

http://xb7.xanga.com/3508201bc3518131715232/q96071732.gif

Soundwave says, "X'Eye, superior. CDX, inferior."

[evildragon]

so you little exuse

"So your little excuse"

[JRedmond3]

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

[bultje112]

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

does it work with megacart?

[xelement5x]

Wondermega.

Basically the Japanese version of the X'Eye, only it has a better design, lights up (I think there's like a ring of LEDs around the disc tray lid) and the ability to open the disc tray with your controller (because who wants to be bothered with lifting it manually?)

Yeah, the WonderMega is basically god's gift to gaming in my opinion. I love the design of the console and it doesn't hurt that I'm a huge Sega CD fanboy as well.

[sketch]

CDX because it is compact and incredibly stylish. One of the best looking consoles of any era.

[Team Andromeda]

does it work with megacart?

Nope it doesn't .

[evildragon]

does it work with megacart?

I suggest you read this thread.

http://www.tototek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1423

[Silence The Fallen]

X'Eye over the CDX because:
-Plays unchipped Mega Drive games out of the box, with no mods needed.
-Allows you to use your standard AV cable, instead of the proprietary one. Having two av outs has its uses too.
-Has a very sharp picture to it. You'd swear it was S-Video.


Cheaterdragon1 brought up some excellent points.

I have both an X'Eye and a CDX. I voted for the X'Eye because it really is the better system. As mentioned above, the X'Eye has a wide cart slot that requires no modification to play import games. You can hook it up with standard AV cables. It is also compatible with all Sega CD games. The CDX will lock up when you try to play Jurassic Park or The Terminator. If I could only have one system, that would be the deal breaker for me as I love both of those games.

The X'Eye also has a more accurate video output than the CDX. Throw Ys III into the system and watch the intro. When the pillars scroll by, the white areas of them have a bleeding rainbow effect on the CDX. On the X'Eye all of the colors scroll as they should and the whites of the pillars are sharp and crisp with no rainbow effect. In all honestly, its a small difference, because the rainbowing is fairly subtle, but it does show that the X'Eye has better video output.

[Chilly Willy]

The CDX will lock up when you try to play Jurassic Park or The Terminator

No, it doesn't. This has been discussed and tested several times by those of us with CDXs and those games. They run just fine on the CDX. Why do people keep repeating this myth when it's been debunked for years?

[Silence The Fallen]

No, it doesn't. This has been discussed and tested several times by those of us with CDXs and those games. They run just fine on the CDX. Why do people keep repeating this myth when it's been debunked for years?

It's no myth to me. It's quite true. I have both a CDX and an X'Eye. I have original store bought copies of both Jurassic Park and The Terminator. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up on the first screen with the helicopter crash. It plays fine until you try to leave the screen and then it locks up. The Terminator plays perfectly fine and has no issues but randomly locks up during the first stage.

Neither of these games have issues on my X'Eye but they lock up every time on my CDX.

[Chilly Willy]

It's no myth to me. It's quite true. I have both a CDX and an X'Eye. I have original store bought copies of both Jurassic Park and The Terminator. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up on the first screen with the helicopter crash. It plays fine until you try to leave the screen and then it locks up. The Terminator plays perfectly fine and has no issues but randomly locks up during the first stage.

Neither of these games have issues on my X'Eye but they lock up every time on my CDX.

Probably trouble with the laser assembly then. I've got both and never seen a problem. There's a thread here somewhere where a bunch of us CDX owners tried those two and some others, and virtually everyone has no trouble. Naturally some people will have troubles with any game regardless of what model they have... it's just the way things go with consoles, especially CD based ones. That doesn't mean that the model cannot EVER play that game, but that's how it's been stated about the CDX.

[MEGADRIVER1]

I was going to post some opinions on which I like better, but watching people fight over differences in opinions and then someone else saying "ban him" is not really something I agree with.

Everybody has their own opinions, and believes in something else, there is no need to clobber someone on the head until they agree with you.

The only time you need to feel that strongly about something in my opinion is when it infringes on someones human rights or equality or that sort. otherwise isn't this a passion and hobby about fun things, aka games? FUN , might I reiterate.

:P

I vote cdx. simply because it reminds me of the japanese stuff my granny bought when I was a kid.

I might go the pioneer laserdisc setup with the ability to play sega and watch laserdiscs, but thats another more exotic tech :P

jvc has more compatibilty though, with lacking region lock and all.

[Silence The Fallen]

Probably trouble with the laser assembly then. I've got both and never seen a problem. There's a thread here somewhere where a bunch of us CDX owners tried those two and some others, and virtually everyone has no trouble. Naturally some people will have troubles with any game regardless of what model they have... it's just the way things go with consoles, especially CD based ones. That doesn't mean that the model cannot EVER play that game, but that's how it's been stated about the CDX.

I suppose it could be the laser assembly. I'm not very tech savvy.

All I know is that I have heard countless times that those two specific games have issues with the CDX and both of mine DO have issues with my CDX. I have 58 Sega CD games. They all play perfectly fine on my X'Eye and all of them play perfectly fine on my CDX except for Jurassic Park and The Terminator. I would imagine if something like the laser assembly was having issues I would encounter problems with at least a few other titles.

Honestly it has been a few years since I last tried them. To refresh my memory i just set down for an hour and played them both on my X'Eye and CDX. They played fine on my X'Eye. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up every time I try to leave the first screen. I click on the cave, the music changes to the "traveling music", but the FMV of you going through the cave never loads. It just freezes. Every time.

When I played The Terminator I actually made it to the second stage before it locked up while my character was in mid jump. Usually it locks up somewhere in the first stage. Whereas Jurassic Park seems to lock up when loading FMV, The Terminator seems completely random. I can't figure out what triggers it.

Like you said, maybe it is the laser assembly, but I find it difficult to believe its just coincidence that the TWO specific games "rumored" to have issues with the CDX are the ONLY games that have issues on my CDX.

[Chilly Willy]

I suppose it could be the laser assembly. I'm not very tech savvy.

All I know is that I have heard countless times that those two specific games have issues with the CDX and both of mine DO have issues with my CDX. I have 58 Sega CD games. They all play perfectly fine on my X'Eye and all of them play perfectly fine on my CDX except for Jurassic Park and The Terminator. I would imagine if something like the laser assembly was having issues I would encounter problems with at least a few other titles.

Honestly it has been a few years since I last tried them. To refresh my memory i just set down for an hour and played them both on my X'Eye and CDX. They played fine on my X'Eye. On the CDX Jurassic Park locks up every time I try to leave the first screen. I click on the cave, the music changes to the "traveling music", but the FMV of you going through the cave never loads. It just freezes. Every time.

When I played The Terminator I actually made it to the second stage before it locked up while my character was in mid jump. Usually it locks up somewhere in the first stage. Whereas Jurassic Park seems to lock up when loading FMV, The Terminator seems completely random. I can't figure out what triggers it.

Like you said, maybe it is the laser assembly, but I find it difficult to believe its just coincidence that the TWO specific games "rumored" to have issues with the CDX are the ONLY games that have issues on my CDX.

People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.

[MEGADRIVER1]

People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.

You love your machine!!! :)

[Chilly Willy]

You love your machine!!! :)

Mostly. :D I do use it more than any of my other SEGA stuff.

[MEGADRIVER1]

Mostly. :D I do use it more than any of my other SEGA stuff.

Mostly. Ahaha that love hate relationship. Its like my father and his numerous bikes. which are italian. which means bits fall off, because thats what gives ducati character and personality. especially if they are new and the mirror falls off etc. And he still loves them, going to ducati bikeshows on his birthday. loves them. mostly. :P lol. Love is unconditional!! :P lol

[SSturtle]

For me it's the CDX, its sleek, compact and still looks good next to all my current game consoles.
I'd like to get a X'Eye some time but after I find a Turbo Duo!

[Zz Badnusty]

People who tell you these games don't work don't have a CDX... they're repeating what they've heard from someone else... who also doesn't have a CDX. Like I said, a number of us who DO have CDXs got together and tried EVERY SINGLE GAME commonly bandied about as "not compatible with the CDX," and every one of them works fine for most of us.

Now what I've seen on my CDX is it's VERY picky about the brand of CDR you use. It is also more susceptible to scratches than my model 2 CD. So if your game has a slight scratch, it may cause the CDX to fail. What I've done in that case is copy the CD to a CDR of a type I know my CDX will read, and that clears the problem up. That would be my suggestion to you - find a brand of CDR that your CDX likes and then copy those discs that fail and try the CDR. Odds are it will work fine. Picky optics are the main complaint (almost the only complaint) I have on the CDX.
It could also be an issue of a particular batch of CDX hardware has issues with those two games.

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

I prefer my X'Eye because it was super easy for me to get in and do a region mod for the cart. Since I wanted it to look as stock as possible, I control the region with a tiny slide switch under the tray cover. In the picture, it is the black thing just below the right hand side hinge on the tray cover. I also added a bi-color power LED so that I can keep track of which region it is in. Unfortunately, I can't remember which color is for which region so I usually just put a cart in and see if it works. If not, flip the switch and try again.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/JYakapucci/RegionSwitch005.jpg

[Drakon]

X'eye because it looks cooler :cool:

[TurboRotary]

The X'eye definitely looks much better.. I wonder if there is a audio/video difference between the two.

[Saturn Fan]

I think i asked this before, but is there anyway to mod X'eye with V.2.00 bios?

If not, it loses automatically. Not hearing/seeing the legendary V.2.00 screen upon start-up takes some of the magic out of the Sega CD experience.

[Drakon]

The mega everdrive lets you load a sega cd bios into a system, you could look into that option.


I think i asked this before, but is there anyway to mod X'eye with V.2.00 bios?

If not, it loses automatically. Not hearing/seeing the legendary V.2.00 screen upon start-up takes some of the magic out of the Sega CD experience.

[Saturn Fan]

The mega everdrive lets you load a sega cd bios into a system, you could look into that option.


Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

[Drakon]

sega cd BIOS.


Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

[GohanX]

The X'eye definitely looks much better.. I wonder if there is a audio/video difference between the two.

It's not significant. A few years back I ran some audio video tests on both since I was going to keep one and sell the other, and I liked the audio/video quality of the X'Eye over the CDX by just a touch, but it was like splitting hairs. Both were excellent.

[xelement5x]

Wait, what? You can play Sega CD Roms with Mega Everdrive?

To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.

[Drakon]

Correct my man.


To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.

[Saturn Fan]

To clarify, you can use the Everdrive to boot an alternate Sega CD bios from another region so that you can actually play Sega/Mega CD games from other regions. You'll need discs of the actual games still (copies or real) to play the games though. You can't play Sega CD games from just the Everdrive as far as I know.


Darn. Eh the bios is great at least. I can't imagine booting up a Sega CD without the V.2.00 Bios.


~TG, 'cause the others suuuuuuuck....

[Saturn Fan]

Wait....does this mean a japanese or euro Sega CD can be attached and work with a U.S Genesis?

[Drakon]

Yeah, the only thing that determines the region of the system is just the bios chip.


Wait....does this mean a japanese or euro Sega CD can be attached and work with a U.S Genesis?

[muteKi]

The fuck you talking about? The Sega CD is not compatible with Genesis units from different regions. It'll work with one only if there is already a region mod in the Genesis; just switch it over to match the region of the Sega CD and you're good. But frankly it's probably going to cost you about as much to get the mods and the extra Sega CD units as to get a single unit and a decent flash cart with BIOS on them. The Genny only boots up the Sega CD when there isn't a cart inside, so with a flash cart you can bootstrap alternate BIOS for the unit and get past that region incompatibility between components.

[Saturn Fan]

The fuck you talking about? The Sega CD is not compatible with Genesis units from different regions. It'll work with one only if there is already a region mod in the Genesis; just switch it over to match the region of the Sega CD and you're good. But frankly it's probably going to cost you about as much to get the mods and the extra Sega CD units as to get a single unit and a decent flash cart with BIOS on them. The Genny only boots up the Sega CD when there isn't a cart inside, so with a flash cart you can bootstrap alternate BIOS for the unit and get past that region incompatibility between components.


I figured even though there was a cart in the slot, booting up Bios for the CD causes it to activate and lets a Sega CD game be played.

Otherwise, whats the point in being able to boot bios from the everdrive?

[lumclaw]

Sega CD simply sees a valid BIOS file then runs it. Sega CD units do not know whether their BIOS has been loaded from inside, or using the cart slot.

[Saturn Fan]

Sega CD simply sees a valid BIOS file then runs it. Sega CD units do not know whether their BIOS has been loaded from inside, or using the cart slot.


Soooo.....then it doesn't matter what region the Genesis is? So long as the proper Bios are booted up?

[Drakon]

Which is what I was trying to say. The only "region lockout" on a sega cd that I know of is just the region in the bios. Bypass the bios and load another one and your segacd from whatever region should run fine on your system.


Soooo.....then it doesn't matter what region the Genesis is? So long as the proper Bios are booted up?

[Chilly Willy]

Using a patched BIOS is bypass the region check will get any title to LOAD, but once it is running, the game itself might check the region on the MD side, or it might be written to assume the hardware was NTSC or PAL and not support the other. So getting a CD game to run may require more than simply bypassing the region check in the CD BIOS. That's where you may need a region mod on the MD to get the game to work.

[MissionFailed]

X eye does look a lot cooler.