Found new reason NOT to get a Jaguar...

[Tanegashima]

The ONE game I have forever wanted on the Atari Jag. was Tempest 2000. Now, I feel stupid, but I went to a flea market and BAM! there it was for the Sega Saturn :D I absolutely LOVE this GAME!! Now a Jaguar is not in my future, period.

[Genesis Knight]

But WAIT! There's Aliens vs. Predator!

[Tanegashima]

I have enough FPS for a lifetime...how different could AvP be?

[Melf]

AvP runs at about 10 frames per second, and I found it to be totally unplayable now. Get a copy of the sequel for PC or wait for Sega's new version.

Tempest 2000 is awesome on the Saturn, and I actually prefer it to the Playstation one. Redbook audio FTW.

[Genesis Knight]

I was just kidding, people.

[gamevet]

I was just kidding, people.

Good!

I'd hate to debate the lameness of that game.;)

[j_factor]

There's still Iron Soldier and SkyHammer.

[108 Stars]

Also the Jaguar looks damn cool.:D
Well, if you ignore that pad that looks like an old telephone-set...

[playgen]

The Jaguar is a great console, and AVP is an awesome game...

On a totally unrelated note, anyone want to buy a Jaguar with AVP?

[Zebbe]

Also the Jaguar looks damn cool.:D
Well, if you ignore that pad that looks like an old telephone-set...

And the toilet addon :D.

[j_factor]

The problem with the toilet add-on is that once I accidentally peed on it. Except it wasn't an accident.

[The Sports Guy]

lol. I once ran over Pole Position 3 for some atari system with my bigfoot four wheeler thing when I was little.

[Earthworm_Jim_Fan]

The ONE game I have forever wanted on the Atari Jag. was Tempest 2000. Now, I feel stupid, but I went to a flea market and BAM! there it was for the Sega Saturn :D I absolutely LOVE this GAME!! Now a Jaguar is not in my future, period.
Jeff Minter wrote only the Atari Jaguar version of the game; other, later versions were ported by other developers and are generally considered to lack the fine gameplay tuning present in the Jaguar version.[citation needed] All later versions, however, come as compact discs and contain in-game the tracks of a separately-released soundtrack CD instead of the original game's real-time sequenced module music. Most of the tracks are quite similar (only in higher sound quality), while others have been redone from scratch.

The Sega Saturn version (programmed by High Voltage Software like the PlayStation version) uses a limited amount of sound channels, causing thin sound. The game also fails to recreate the wild framebuffer effects of the original satisfactorily,[citation needed] and hence the third type of bonus level has been completely removed (whereas on the PC the programmers redesigned it). Identically to the PlayStation version, the Particle Laser does not work on Spikes any better than the regular weapon. A unique quirk of the Saturn version causes the game's first type of bonus level to run overspeed if the player moves too far up or down.

[j_factor]

The Sega Saturn version (programmed by High Voltage Software like the PlayStation version) uses a limited amount of sound channels, causing thin sound.

That's a bunch of crap. I own the Sega Saturn version as well as the official soundtrack CD. It sounds just as good. I suppose there could be a "thin" quality to the sound effects, but in general the sound effects in Tempest 2000 aren't very significant.

[redrum666]

lol. I once ran over Pole Position 3 for some atari system with my bigfoot four wheeler thing when I was little.

they never made a Pole Position 3

[sketch]

Just to chime in my two cents, I've played both versions (though I don't own either any more) and the Jaguar version is superior to the Saturn version. In addition to the fact that the "feel" is better on the Jag (and the control tighter), the way some of the enemy units behave is different to the detriment of the game. Now, the difference isn't big enough to go buy a Jaguar per se, but it is there. I've also played the PSOne version. The Jag version reigns supreme.

[Tanegashima]

You know, I'm sure the Jaguar version is superior. But not superior enough for me to go get one. Granted, if Rayman weren't on the Sega Saturn I would probably get a Jaguar. I KNOW I would get a Jaguar if I didn't have a Sega Saturn so I could have Tempest 2k, Rayman and Zool 2. I still can't understand why Zool 2 only came out for the darn Jaguar and not the Saturn...Zool 1 was on the Genesis, I freakin' love that game.

[j_factor]

Zool 2 was also on the Amiga and CD32. So, there's that.

[sketch]

You know, I'm sure the Jaguar version is superior. But not superior enough for me to go get one. Granted, if Rayman weren't on the Sega Saturn I would probably get a Jaguar. I KNOW I would get a Jaguar if I didn't have a Sega Saturn so I could have Tempest 2k, Rayman and Zool 2. I still can't understand why Zool 2 only came out for the darn Jaguar and not the Saturn...Zool 1 was on the Genesis, I freakin' love that game.

Your reasoning is sound. T2K for the Jaguar is its one killer app. AvP was good for its day, but I tried playing it not too long ago and the framerate makes it unplayable compared to modern games (although the art style still holds up well).

There are a handfull of fun games on the system (notably Iron Soldier, Missile Command 3D, Ultra Vortek), but none of them are good enough to warrant buying a Jag. And Rayman, its other crown jewel, is commonly available on multiple platforms as you say.

Just to confirm that the Jag is better left alojne, I got back into the itrecently for a brief period, bought most of the decent games, and realized it just wasn't worth owning. It's a shame because it had the potential to be a fun little machine.

[Tanegashima]

Sorry, but the Commodore 32 controller is the work of Satan and I cannot go near it. Not to mention, I'd have to get everything from Canada. Everything from Canada takes about 200 days to get from there to here in California. So no thanks.

[j_factor]

The CD32 can use any Amiga/ST/Genesis controller.

[BlowMyCartridge]

Even if the Jag version was better, would you really want to endure that controller to play it?

[Earthworm_Jim_Fan]

That's a bunch of crap. I own the Sega Saturn version as well as the official soundtrack CD. It sounds just as good. I suppose there could be a "thin" quality to the sound effects, but in general the sound effects in Tempest 2000 aren't very significant.
Yeah, thats the official "soundtrack". The official Earthworm Jim soundtrack sounds nothing like the Genesis songs.