Worst Sonic Level (Genesis Games only) [Archive]

dragonboy

04-14-2008, 09:38 PM

Sonic has a lot of fun levels, but it also has a lot of boring repetative levels

Sonic 1:
Green Hill Zone -fun level
Marble Zone -boring level
Spring Yard Zone -boring level
Labyrith Zone -fun level
Star Light Zone -fun level
Brain Scrap Zone -fun level
Final Zone -fun level

Sonic 2:
Emerald Hill Zone -fun level
Chemical Plant Zone -boring level
Ancient Ruin Zone -fun level
every level until Sky Chase Zone -boring levels
Sky Chase Zone -fun level

I once got all the way to Sky Chase Zone and I thought it was a fun level, but I got a game over in it, and didn't feel like playing it again since it has too many boring levels in the way even though I want to see what comes after it.

Sonic 3:
Angel Island Zone -fun level
Hydrocity Zone -fun level

I know this game has saving in it but I'm not sure If my computer will be infested with a virus if I save my game on my emulator.

Iron Lizard

04-14-2008, 09:41 PM

I hate to say but just about any industrial looking level which is about half the levels in the whole series. I don't know what it is but I always hate them. Same goes for other games I love. ROS, SOR, both have them,bleeh. I hate being stuck in a factory. Give pretty mountains and plants to look at.

Baleog

04-14-2008, 09:50 PM

Hands down: the Labyrinth Zone in Sonic 1. Frustrating, slow gameplay (carefully jumping over difficult-to-avoid moving spikes is NOT my idea of fun!) coupled with mega-annoying music make for gaming hell!

In Sonic 2: the Casino Night level. Hate those slot machines. Hate the slot machine “special stages” in S3&K even more. And the Metropolis Zone (too long, with too little variation).

In Sonic 3: Carnival Night Zone! Almost as bad as the Labyrinth Zone (if you had no spin-dash ability in S3, it would be worse!). Any level where you have to struggle just to finish without running out of time (and there are lots of them in S3 and S3&K, see also the Launch Base Zone) is badly-designed. Horrible music yet again (and again, also see the Launch Base Zone. Those “Go! Go! Go!” and “Kick it!” samples are both a. annoying and b. horribly dated).

Kollision

04-14-2008, 09:55 PM

Any level where Sonic bounces around like a pinball.I agree completely.

Hands down: the Labyrinth Zone in Sonic 1. Frustrating, slow gameplay (carefully jumping over difficult-to-avoid moving spikes is NOT my idea of fun!) coupled with mega-annoying music make for gaming hell!No way.
Labyrinth zone rules! And the music is awesome!

DaronMalakian17

04-14-2008, 10:53 PM

Labyrinth Zone is incredible...

Sonic 2 probably has the most boring levels out of all of them.

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

04-14-2008, 11:09 PM

Joe Redifer

04-14-2008, 11:38 PM

Labyrinth Zone is so un-Sonic it is amazing. With this zone, Sega could have truthfully advertised Sonic as both the fastest and slowest character ever. I don't mind the level, but it just seems... out of place.

The Sports Guy

04-14-2008, 11:44 PM

yeah. I dont like labyrinth at all, always end up drowning because its like ninja warrior for most of the three acts. I always gather up a bunch of lives at spring yard as well and then spend them all falling through the floor at the boss and then cussing at the screen.

I used to love the casino levels, but now they are boring. I used to try to get the maximum rings in that one slot in the second zone.

Now, I dont think S3 has a bad zone, though hydrocity and marble garden get tiresome. annoying to play through when you get in a speed rhythm.

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

04-15-2008, 12:31 AM

I liked Labyrinth Zone: It's one of the few levels where you have to think. Meaning, I like the challenge.

j_factor

04-15-2008, 12:40 AM

I don't care for Labyrinth Zone. It's too slow and annoying. I especially hate Scrap Brain Zone Act 3. A lot.

In Sonic 2, I hate Sky Chase Zone, because it's on auto-pilot and it's the exact same thing every time you replay it. Wing Fortress Zone is kind of "meh" too. I initially disliked Oil Ocean Zone, but now I enjoy it.

I like every level in Sonic 3. I like almost every level in Sonic & Knuckles, but Doomsday Zone is kind of lame. I can't say I love Hidden Palace Zone either, but since there's so little to it, it's hard to say it sucks.

I actually like every level in Sonic 3D Blast, even though I don't like the game as much.

Rusty Venture

04-15-2008, 12:48 AM

"Carnival Night Zone" makes baby Jesus cry.

j_factor

04-15-2008, 12:52 AM

I don't get why everyone always slams Carnival Night Zone. I like it.

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

04-15-2008, 01:08 AM

Same here.

Alianger

04-15-2008, 01:21 AM

Carnival Night. Awful music, boring theme, not much of a challenge.

TmEE

04-15-2008, 01:29 AM

Carnival Night in sonic3(&K)... dull stage with crap music... and most of the stages is Sonic 2

Mr Smith

04-15-2008, 04:10 AM

Marble Garden Zone is the worst zone in the history of the universe. Utter, utter tosh.

Zebbe

04-15-2008, 05:26 AM

I agree with Mr Smith.

Rusty Venture

04-15-2008, 05:29 AM

Well you both have to be wrong because "Carnival Night" sucks ass.

Mr Smith

04-15-2008, 06:13 AM

Well, we're not wrong. My opinion is correct and if the android agrees with me then their can be no argument. Everything is Marble Garden Zone is hateful. Close this thread.

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

04-15-2008, 06:34 AM

Everything is Marble Garden Zone is hateful.

Wrong. It had one of the best boss battles in Sonic history.

Y'know, it's sad when people start bashing Sonic so much that they have to start nit-picking with the old games...

The Genesis Sonic games were awesome. Let's leaves it at that.

Mr Smith

04-15-2008, 06:36 AM

Wrong. It had one of the best boss battles in Sonic history.
Somebody ban this clown! Both Marble Garden boss battles were tosh.
:end:

thefletch13

04-15-2008, 07:10 AM

the entire game of Sonic 3d blast puts me to sleep, or gives me a massive headache.

Mr. Ksoft

04-15-2008, 07:30 AM

The only zone I really don't like is Metropolis in Sonic 2.

The palette looks really bad with the main colors being green and gold/brown/orange. The traps seem very badly placed, where I can just be running along and all of a sudden there are some crushers that you wouldn't even be able to see without walking instead of running. Plus, there are those spinning things you can run on to go up or down and they place the exploding starfish right next to it, so that they explode as you're running up it with no way to avoid them except jumping off and falling to the bottom. Additionally, the music is very annoying.

megabomberman

04-15-2008, 07:40 AM

Stuff like Metropolis, Scrap Brain Zone are hideous alright, I have to agree with iron lizard Factory levels suck!

Carnival night is apalling with that disgusting music, or excuse for.

And Labyrinth zone is just fantastic, what beauty, what a challenge, what diversity, what a song, what a level!!!!!!!

KenshiroX

04-15-2008, 07:34 PM

I hate factory levels, but Sonic 3D Blast gets my worst vote.

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

04-15-2008, 11:55 PM

Somebody ban this clown! Both Marble Garden boss battles were tosh.
:end:
I thought the Marble Garden Zone boss was the most original in the game. You mean to tell me you didn't think Tails flying Sonic MILES above ground is "uter tosh"?

ticklemonster

04-16-2008, 12:10 AM

I found Labyrinth Zone to be horrible, Metropolis Zone too.

The Sports Guy

04-16-2008, 12:59 AM

Metropolis had a cool boss and good music. And when I first played it I thought it was at the end or near the final zone because it had 3 acts instead of 2.

DaronMalakian17

04-16-2008, 04:32 AM

I thought the Marble Garden Zone boss was the most original in the game. You mean to tell me you didn't think Tails flying Sonic MILES above ground is "uter tosh"?
I agree, that boss was just amazing when I first played it, and quite exciting to still play it.

DigitalSpace

04-16-2008, 05:10 AM

Another vote for the Labyrinth Zone in Sonic 1. I'm not too fond of Marble Garden Zone in Sonic 3 either.

JFLY

04-16-2008, 09:20 AM

Any level where Sonic bounces around like a pinball.+1

The Jackal

04-16-2008, 10:12 AM

I don't really hate the levels in Sonic 3, I just don't like the level order.

If I had to say what i hated, it has to be Star Light Zone from Sonic 1. Great music - bland level.

K.K.

04-16-2008, 10:13 AM

Marble Zone. As my sister stated yesterday, half of it is about waiting.

17daysolderthannes

04-16-2008, 06:18 PM

any water level. I HATE playing sonic trapped in a sea of jello, because thats what it feels like.

I also dislike any level with too much tedious movement and hardly any running. Oil Ocean sucks, flying egg zone or w/e its called sucks, level 2 of sonic 1 sucks (it takes too long!), etc. I wish someone made a "make your own sonic game" generator that had all the levels from sonic 1-S&K and you could hand pick which levels you liked and make it a ROM.

All of you need to back off Metropolis Zone though, that is my favorite level aesthetically and has one of the best sonic background tracks of any sonic game on any system; however, it is harder than it needs to be, those damn praying mantisssssss (plural?) need to diaf.

Smii

04-16-2008, 11:20 PM

Sorry, have to agree - Metropolis & Labyrinth are two zones which have always annoyed me in an otherwise near-perfect series of games.

Metropolis Zone: worst thing about any (16-bit) Sonic game. Why the starfish? In fact, why all the badniks in that level? And mostly (this is the big one) Why did they need to add the extra act? They didn't! :mad:
(I quite enjoy squashing Tails underneath the cogs, though.)

Labyrinth Zone: boring. I find the jangly music mocking. Some underwater bits are horrible to get through, and the boss is entirely pointless.

Also (just to make my post even longer) I should mention that I've always been disappointed with S&K's Hidden Palace Zone. I mean, I'd been waiting for ages to actually see it in a game, & it's over so quickly - yes, it's important plot-wise, and fighting Knuckles was sort of cool, but... the S2 original was a proper zone. Shame they never finished it.

j_factor

04-17-2008, 03:45 AM

Nerd fight!

Somebody ban this clown! Both Marble Garden boss battles were tosh.
:end:

Any Sonic fan knows Marble Garden actually has three different boss battles. Your opinions are about as useful as a case-sensitive search engine. *nerd laugh*

The traps seem very badly placed, where I can just be running along and all of a sudden there are some crushers that you wouldn't even be able to see without walking instead of running. Plus, there are those spinning things you can run on to go up or down and they place the exploding starfish right next to it, so that they explode as you're running up it with no way to avoid them except jumping off and falling to the bottom.

You obviously just don't know how to play it properly. Both of those can be avoided; you're just too much of a n00b to know that. Don't complain about DOS if you don't know how to type a command line.

:D

Mr Smith

04-18-2008, 03:20 AM

Any Sonic fan knows Marble Garden actually has three different boss battles. Your opinions are about as useful as a case-sensitive search engine. *nerd laugh*
Don't get clever. Nobody likes a smart arse.

While flying for a boss was a cute idea, in realitiy it is pretty tosh. Granted the two Marble Garden bosses are nowhere near as bad as that self-destructing piece of crap in Carnival Night 1, or that bloody whirlpool thingy boss from Hydrocity 1, but they are by no means awesome encounters and they certainly do nothing to salvage Marble Garden from being anything other than the worst Sonic level of all time.

Elusive

04-18-2008, 04:07 PM

You know what's funny? I never saw the 'Tails boss' until I saw a walkthrough on YouTube. Every time I play Marble Garden as Tails I end up flying Sonic-less, trying to bump into the bottom of the drill thing.

McTom

04-22-2008, 03:20 AM

Sonic 3D Blast:
NONE

I hate them all...

ggultra2764

05-29-2008, 10:00 PM

Having only fully played through Sonic 1 and 2, I would say the worst Sonic level amongst these two titles is Sonic 2's Metropolis Zone. Some of the level obstacles keep you in place for a good amount of time such as having to wait while on moving platforms or speeding up on screws and this kills the thrill of trying to advance though the levels as quickly as possible.

Vyse of Arcadia

05-29-2008, 11:45 PM

How has no one mentioned Sandopolis? I friggin' hated that place! The ghosts and the pull thingies and the anNOYing.

Other than that, I really hated Casino Night. I loved Carnival Night, though. Go figure.

Vehemont

05-30-2008, 07:48 PM

Don't get clever. Nobody likes a smart arse.

That is kind of funny coming from you, but anyway, I have to say the Marble zone from Sonic 1 gets my vote.

Xanafalgue

05-31-2008, 07:06 AM

Labyrinth Zone
Casino Night Zone
Metropolis Zone
Hydrocity Zone
Marble Garden Zone

All atrocious.

knicksfan89

05-31-2008, 09:04 AM

Grounder

05-31-2008, 09:20 AM

Labyrinth Zone
Casino Night Zone
Metropolis Zone
Hydrocity Zone
Marble Garden Zone

All atrocious.
You must be slow at Hydrocity Zone.
It was one of my favorite levels in Sonic The Hedgehog 3.

Rusty Venture

05-31-2008, 11:51 AM

I love zipping through "Hydrocity Zone", it is one of my high points of Sonic 3.

Angel Island was always kinda meh.

TmEE

05-31-2008, 12:34 PM

Hydrocity Act 2 is my fav level... sooooo fast (in most parts)

Mr Smith

05-31-2008, 12:58 PM

You people are sick - Hydrocity is tosh.

TmEE

05-31-2008, 01:50 PM

you use the word "tosh" too much.... you're sick :P

Mr Smith

05-31-2008, 01:54 PM

you use the word "tosh" too much.... you're sick :P
:o Lies!

Grounder

05-31-2008, 07:36 PM

you use the word "tosh" too much.... you're sick :P
Anyone want to look through all his posts and count how many times he said "tosh?"

Earthworm_Jim_Fan

05-31-2008, 08:10 PM

It's just like how Rusty Venture thinks everything "Makes baby Jesus cry."

Vyse of Arcadia

05-31-2008, 10:10 PM

Hating Hydrocity is like hating ice cream. The delicious kind, not the crap kind.

Vehemont

05-31-2008, 10:25 PM

I myself am pretty fond of hydrocity, I think it is pretty badass that you can run over the water.

Rusty Venture

06-01-2008, 01:56 AM

It's just like how Rusty Venture thinks everything "Makes baby Jesus cry."

This post makes baby Jesus cry, just like the use of the word "tosh".

Iron Lizard

06-01-2008, 02:08 AM

This post makes baby Jesus cry, just like the use of the word "tosh".

+1

Mr Smith

06-01-2008, 05:50 AM

Anyone want to look through all his post and count how many times he said "tosh?"
In my 2000 or so posts I would estimate I have used that word on about 6 occasions :nod:

TmEE

06-01-2008, 06:00 AM

I got 197 hits

ThePirateMike

06-05-2008, 11:41 PM

The 6th and 7th emerald special stages in Sonic 2 get my vote (but only if Tails is with you, as his stupid AI causes him to jump too late and lose all the rings he's collected. What's worse is if he manages to get in front of Sonic and steal/lose all the rings, preventing you from being able to pass the stages.)

Actually, I'm only joking when I vote the special stages (though they were the cause of many controller-to-genesis and controller-to-tv collisions back when I was a kid.) I may not like them as much as most people, but there are worse levels. My vote would actually have to go to Carnival Night and Sandopolis.

I'm probably beating a dead horse with the Carnival Night thing, but I find it odd that nobody's complained about the "impossible to pass" red/white pillar in act 2. When I first got the game, I was stuck on that level for a good month because of that damned thing, before I realized (by complete accident) that pressing up/down with a bit of rhythm actually causes it to gradually move higher and lower until you can finally get by. Until then, I couldn't understand why the game locked me in that "dead-end" room. Couple that annoyance with its sub-par music (it's one of the 4 tracks composed by Michael Jackson that were actually left in the game) and its tacky palette, and you have the worst part of Sonic 3.

Sandopolis deserves some recognition as well. Act 1 isn't too bad, but takes almost the full 10 minutes to complete. As a result, it gets a little boring after a while. Act 2 is annoying simply because of the ghosts, timed lights, and that "endless" sand slide that requires a tricky jump to pass.

It's kind of funny; despite having my two least favourite zones, Sonic 3&K is still my favourite of in the series.

Also: for those of you who are bashing Marble Garden, just take some comfort in the fact that Robotnik destroyed that entire section of Angel Island during the boss fight. It wasn't that bad of a zone, really. I actually liked the earthquake part with the collapsing/warping scenery.

Mister X

06-06-2008, 12:06 AM

I'm probably beating a dead horse with the Carnival Night thing, but I find it odd that nobody's complained about the "impossible to pass" red/white pillar in act 2.http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/MisterXiado/003.jpg

Smii

06-06-2008, 04:10 AM

Meh? Sandopolis Act 1 takes around 4-5 minutes on a slow day. Just stay away from all that stupid abseiling business.

(I had the problem with the barrel too, back when I got the game. Felt like an idiot when I worked it out :) )

Mordan

06-06-2008, 05:55 AM

in sonic 2, I get the 7 emeralds in the hills stage.

then state 3 is fun. then you kill the boss. who finished the game with the 7 emerald ? I think there should be harder mode once you do that. I did it and was like so wha'ts next?

it sucks that yellow sonic falls off the plane. otherwise all are fun with super sonic. maybe casino not as fun as the others.

TmEE

06-06-2008, 12:54 PM

I don't like to get all emeralds in Sonic2 too early because I hate when I turn into Super Sonic after grabbing 50 rings and jumping... at least in Sonic 3 you need to press the button again to get Super.

Baleog

06-08-2008, 03:35 AM

it sucks that yellow sonic falls off the plane. otherwise all are fun with super sonic. maybe casino not as fun as the others.

The thing I really HATE about Super Sonic? The music! And at least in Sonic 2, there’s unique Super Sonic music. In Sonic 3 and S&K, it’s just the same old boring “invincible” music. And the “invincible” music in S&K SUCKS! The same 17 notes over and over like a litany, until you’re ready to SCREAM OUT LOUD!

Dirt Ball Gamer

06-08-2008, 05:48 AM

I hate wacky workbench or whatever the frig its called

Mordan

06-08-2008, 05:51 AM

In Sonic 3 and S&K, it’s just the same old boring “invincible” music.

WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF they were thinking?
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

never tried yet the super sonic in those 3 and S&K

super sonic music indeed rocks in Sonic 2

Smii

06-08-2008, 08:13 AM

Hyper Sonic / Knuckles are fun. Super Tails (with his MURDEROUS FLICKIES) is ridiculous :)

And yeah, Wacky Workbench has always been my most hated level in Sonic CD, too. Especially when I'm trying to locate time travel posts / those machine things.

KenshiroX

06-08-2008, 08:35 PM

I detest Wacky Workbench.

Vyse of Arcadia

06-08-2008, 08:58 PM

I kinda liked Wacky Workbench. For me, there's a fine line between bouncy stages that are annoying and bouncy stages that are fun. I liked Wacky Workbench. I liked Carnival Night. I hated Casino Night.

If we're going to throw Sonic CD into the mix, though... Tidal Tempest. Way too hard to time travel in that stage.

Benjamin

06-08-2008, 09:15 PM

The Sports Guy

06-08-2008, 10:24 PM

I'm not really a fan of the brown part of the first level of S and K. Cant remember the name of it.

17daysolderthannes

06-09-2008, 12:19 AM

Angel Island is my worst Sonic level. Ugly coloring, uninspired design, and completely un-Sonic feeling, particularly for the first stage. It lacks blue skies. The enemies lack character, I don't like the music arrangement, and it's just not fun to play for me at all, even with all the canned excitement.

really!? that's the only part of the only level I LIKED in Sonic 3! I'm so pissed that its only there for a split second until the whole place is lit on fire.

Any stage where Sonic has to come to a stop for literally more than 1 second is the worst stage in a Sonic game. The whole point of Sonic is that you run your ass off as fast as you can. If you want to wait around for the bus to come, play an RPG.

TmEE

06-09-2008, 12:56 PM

Play Sonic Advances then.... Sonic2 and 1 have way more stop points than Sonic3 IMO... but that's maybe how I play them...

I strongly disagree with finishing game as quickly as possible (Running through the game like ass on fire described in previous post)... no fun then IMO...

garyfoo182

08-30-2008, 06:14 PM

Oh man Chemical Plant Zone in Sonic 2 SUCKS! Its always one of those "let's just bear with it - its almost done" levels.

Gary

TmEE

08-31-2008, 06:54 AM

Its not that bad, Mystic Cave is much worse. Casino Night isn't anything nice either

Patrick_

08-31-2008, 11:36 AM

I honestly liked _all_ of the levels in Sonic 1/2, a couple in Sonic 3, and all in Sonic and Knuckles. The only ones I thought were poorly designed to the point they shouldn't have existed were the first levels in Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. I didn't like a lot of levels in Sonic 3 but I just thought the game was mostly pointless, so whatever.

IMO all the levels had their places, were unique, and all fun to play. :)

Mr Smith

08-31-2008, 03:01 PM

Anybody who give either a Sonic 1 or 2 level should be banned. Sonic 3 is clearly the weak link when it comes to levels (Icecap being the only remotely decent level, getting more than its deserved plaudits because the others are tosh) Actually, thinking about it, everything in Sonic 3D and Spinball are utter crap, but do they count as proper Sonic games?

The Sports Guy

08-31-2008, 03:30 PM

I agree with you for the most part, Mr. Smith, but you have to say that Labyrinth zone in sonic 1 is pretty bad. I dont like it at all.

garyfoo182

08-31-2008, 03:36 PM

IM sorry guys Sonic 3 and Knuckles is pure gold imo.

Gary

probablee

08-31-2008, 03:40 PM

Oh man Chemical Plant Zone in Sonic 2 SUCKS! Its always one of those "let's just bear with it - its almost done" levels.

Gary

I agree with that so much it's not even funny!

I also hated the second Sandopolis level in S&K: sliding down forever while trying to pull switches to make the ghosts go away, otherwise the level won't start really.. and then getting through the Filling The Level Up With Sand part. >:(

Mr Smith

08-31-2008, 05:00 PM

I agree with you for the most part, Mr. Smith, but you have to say that Labyrinth zone in sonic 1 is pretty bad. I dont like it at all.
There are levels I don't like in Sonics 1 & 2 (Hill Top leaps to mind) but they are by no means worse than some of the dross contained in Sonic 3.

17daysolderthannes

08-31-2008, 10:22 PM

everything but Star Light Zone and Green Hill Zone in Sonic 1

Sonic 2 is all awesome

Everything past the first half of the first level of Sonic 3.

Sonic and Knuckles as a whole.

KnightWarrior

09-01-2008, 12:45 AM

I hate Chemical Plant Act 2

I like using Knuckle's in that level

jesus.arnold

09-05-2008, 11:46 PM

pretty much every level from Sonic 2

Emerald Hill zone (you can tell they were running low on ideas when they made that boss, and the level is just Green hill zone with a different background)

Chemical Plant Zone (start sonic rolling and then go make a cup of tea while the level completes itself)

Aquatic Ruin Zone (what a boring trudge that always is, pretty interesting boss though)

Casino night (thinly veiled Spring Yard with new boring springs that need to be charged)

Hill top Zone and Mystic Cave are alright, these are the first stages in the game that are actually pretty good whilst at the same time not being clones of Sonic 1 levels.

Oil Ocean Zone (Don't even get me started on these stages, basically they're just not fun to play in any way, only the greatest Sonic players get past these stages, not because of any difficulty involved but just the excruciating boredom you have to ignore to make it through)

I'm gonna end it here cos I can't be bothered to write anymore

MrMatthews

09-10-2008, 09:38 PM

What was that circus level in Sonic 3? Carnival Night Zone?

Come to think of it . . . a lot of the zones in Sonic 3 would be on my list of Worst Sonic Levels Ever. Hydrocity Zone was pretty crappy, and so was Angel Island.

Arjak

09-11-2008, 12:25 AM

Carnival Night in Sonic 3 was the one moment I hated a classic Sonic game, and it is because of one thing. That retarded part where you have to bounce the spinning column, as was mentioned earlier.
I never understood it, I couldn't get past it without reading what to do, and in my opinion, it may just very well be the most non-intuitive moment in a video game EVER. How are you supposed to know to press up/down? I always tried jumping because that always made it bounce, then I'd fuck up, and try again and again until I ran out of time.
That moment may be the worst-designed moment in all of classic Sonic, and I'll hate it forever.:mad:

TmEE

09-11-2008, 06:10 AM

I managed to master the jumping action on the barrel... I still forget that up and down works...

Mel

09-11-2008, 09:59 AM

Hey I liked Marble zone from sonic 1.

All the Genesis sonic games managed to wow me at one point or another. Second level of S&K (on the plane) drove me up the wall, but that strange tube effect kept me going.

Dr. Robotnik

09-28-2009, 04:22 PM

The worst levels for me are:

- Labyrinth Zone
- Metropolis Zone
- Hydrocity Zone
- Marble Garden Zone
- Carnival Night Zone
- Flying Battery Zone
- Sandopolis Zone

Honestly I think Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles have the worst levels.

nomad83

10-16-2009, 09:38 PM

marble zone from sonic 1

zetastrike

10-16-2009, 09:51 PM

Worst:
Mystic Cave Zone- frustrating
Hill Top- boring
Sandopolis- way too long
Labyrinth- boring
Emerald Hill- no imagination
Oil Ocean- boring

MrMatthews

10-16-2009, 10:01 PM

Worst:
Mystic Cave Zone- frustrating
Hill Top- boring
Sandopolis- way too long
Labyrinth- boring
Emerald Hill- no imagination
Oil Ocean- boring

Wow, you must have hated Sonic 2...

I agree with you about Hill Top Zone. Your opinion about the others, however, is dead wrong.

Awesome music can salvage even the most mundane Sonic level, and Oil Ocean, Labyrinth, Sandopolis, and especially Emerald Hill Zone have that in spades.

zetastrike

10-16-2009, 10:11 PM

All the Sonics have great music, there's no denying that. I enjoy all the games. I just like some parts more than others. I mean, are Starlight and Icecap more enjoyable to play through than Oil Ocean and Labyrinth?

MrMatthews

10-17-2009, 12:30 AM

Hmm... If the music weren't so good, I probably wouldn't like Icecap Zone as much as I do. The music typically makes or breaks the levels for me.

GriskaGyoran

10-17-2009, 01:37 AM

Oil Ocean moved a little too slow for me. I wasn't too much of a fan of that one.

Deo

10-17-2009, 01:45 AM

Sandopolis 2 damn you ghosts!

Ecco

10-17-2009, 04:22 AM

Carnival Night Zone! Ugly colors, terrible music. That notorious part with the barrel moving up and down. When I was young I thought that part was simply a dead end, lol. It took a lot of jumping around and randomness before I figured out you must press up and down. There should have just been a sign explaining it, at the very least.

I also strongly dislike Launch Base Zone. Ugly orange or purple everywhere. More terrible music with lame voice clips repeating endlessly. Annoying birds diving at you. This level does no justice for the last level of Sonic 3!

Rusty Venture

10-17-2009, 04:55 AM

I will agree with "Carnival Night Zone" as being the worst Sonic level in the history of man.

"Launch Base" is pretty mediocre, but not the worst.

Ecco

10-17-2009, 12:09 PM

I will agree with "Carnival Night Zone" as being the worst Sonic level in the history of man.

"Launch Base" is pretty mediocre, but not the worst.

That's fair enough. :cool:

zetastrike

10-17-2009, 10:13 PM

gamegenie

10-18-2009, 01:40 AM

I agree about Sonic 2, it just seems to have the most boring levels in the series.

Bad Sonic Levels:

Sonic 1:
NONE

Sonic 2:
Oil Ocean Zone
Metropolis Zone

Sonic 3 and Knuckles:
NONE

Sonic Spinball:
NONE

Sonic CD:
NONE

Sonic 3D Blast:
NONE

you're just hating on Sonic 2 because it's a fan favorite over Sonic 1 & 3.

http://betastart.com/SW/mickey.gif

Smii

10-18-2009, 06:29 AM

sonic 1, sonic 2 and sonic 3 changed the face of sega gaming forever, so why complain about the level design when the levels in both the aforementioned games are near perfect, the sonic flickies island had some ugly levels but at least they were playable in my opinion

Just because Sonic games were awesome (Sonic 1-Knuckles would probably be in my top 20 "desert island games" - or non stupid equivalent list) doesn't mean their crappy points are any less crap.

Labyrinth Zone = not perfect. Completely pointless boss level (as it doesn't have to involve actually fighting the boss at all). Another minor thing was also the start of Act 3, with the endless waterfalls - it's not as frustrating as the Carnival Night Zone barrel thing, but caused me some confusion at first. Oh, and those Orbinaut things, which I've only managed to get by without damage by running off the screen and back :p

Metropolis Zone = even less perfect. In fact, at least 50% less perfect. No other zones in Sonic 2 have three acts. Why must this one? Why the cheap gittish enemies, and sadistic placement of said gittish enemies (e.g. right at the top of cog things, blind spots, etc)? The boss is a bit of a git too, but I don't really hold it against the level. Meh. One of the Sonic 2 Betas I played had no Act 3 at all. It was a huge improvement. I'd like to know who added the extra Act. And why.

Blahs!

Rusty Venture

10-18-2009, 06:40 AM

Smii makes some good points about both of those zones.

But most important is that those fucking starfish enemies, and their placement, in "Metropolis Zone" are goddamn cheap.

Alianger

10-18-2009, 07:02 AM

Sonic 1:
Marble Zone and some parts of Spring Yard.

Sonic 2:
Oil Ocean.

Sonic 3:
Almost everything after Hydrocity sucks except for Ice Cap.

S&K:
Sandopolis 2 can get annoying sometimes, as can Death Egg since it throws you back if you make mistakes and those automatic 'light tunnel' sections are big time wasters.

Why-Disciple

10-18-2009, 01:28 PM

Marble Zone- Slow, frustrating, long, and no checkpoints. Bull.
Metropolis- Frustrating and way too long.

Jorge Nuno

10-18-2009, 01:49 PM

Oil ocean: I get lost A LOT.
Metropolis: it's has a lot of bad enemy placements, and the fact it's 3 acts of frustration...
Carnival night: freaking huge level.

j_factor

10-18-2009, 03:15 PM

You guys are crazy. Oil Ocean and Metropolis are my favorite zones in Sonic 2. They're detailed and challenging.

Zebbe

10-18-2009, 03:17 PM

Oil ocean: I get lost A LOT.
Metropolis: it's has a lot of bad enemy placements, and the fact it's 3 acts of frustration...
Carnival night: freaking huge level.

You're pointing out things that obviously are part of the challenge intended.

Jorge Nuno

10-18-2009, 03:48 PM

right, cuz bouncing on yellow bumpers out of control on metropolis, while a f*cking grasshopper throws blades right at your face is a challenge.. Or spindashing right into the crab giant spiky fist... Or that barely visible seahorses shooting at you on oil ocean.. there goes sonic ringless back into the petroleum.

Carnival night is so big, that I can't explore it properly. And it has a lot of secret rooms.

Zebbe

10-18-2009, 03:57 PM

For the grasshopper, just bounce to the other side and dodge the things he throws. For the crab, jump when you see him and take him from the right side. For the seahorse, pay more attention.

Jorge Nuno

10-18-2009, 04:14 PM

For the grasshopper, just bounce to the other side (...) How? And sometimes the other side is a wall.

For the crab, jump when you see him and take him from the right side. I usually jump, but the jump has to be very precise to land not on the left and middle part, but on the right, and I fail at that :(

For the seahorse, pay more attention.
Their colors blend well with the environment and are motionless, thats why they usually get me.

sasuke

10-18-2009, 04:38 PM

I'd say my least favorite of the Genesis levels are Carnival Night Act 2, of course because of the not so obvious barrel controls with no hints whatsoever.

An tied with that is Marble Garden because it is bland, tedious, and requires a second controller just to play the boss with Sonic. The music is also bland, too.

The rest of the zones I pretty much like.

Zebbe

10-18-2009, 04:40 PM

How? And sometimes the other side is a wall.

Jump up in the air and let him throw, then dodge them and go down. When you go up again, he will be completely helpless.

I usually jump, but the jump has to be very precise to land not on the left and middle part, but on the right, and I fail at that :(

Practice makes perfect!

Their colors blend well with the environment and are motionless, thats why they usually get me.

Do you have RGB output? It usually helps in situations like these. Also, RGB makes you immune to swine flu.

Jorge Nuno

10-18-2009, 04:40 PM

In Marble garden boss you only need controll pad 1. Yes Zebbe I have RGB

Baloo

10-18-2009, 10:19 PM

My least favorite levels:

Labyrinth Zone
Marble Zone
Hydrocity City Zone
Aquatic Ruin Zone

Ecco

10-19-2009, 03:30 AM

My least favorite levels:

Labyrinth Zone
Marble Zone
Hydrocity City Zone
Aquatic Ruin Zone

Oh man, I love Aquatic Ruin Zone! It's like the lost city of Atlantis! Great music, great artwork, and the boss is fun and unique.

I only recently found out how much some people hate the water levels. I understand the frustration with their lack of speed, but I usually enjoy 'em. I do however wish that Sonic could move faster in the water!!!

Rusty Venture

10-19-2009, 03:41 AM

I love "Hydrocity" and the bubble shield in 3 & Knuckles makes roaming underwater less of a "omg, hurry up big bubble!" drama.

And I like Marble Garden, I rather like the Roman-ish design of the level.

Smii

10-19-2009, 09:06 AM

I only recently found out how much some people hate the water levels. I understand the frustration with their lack of speed, but I usually enjoy 'em. I do however wish that Sonic could move faster in the water!!!

If only he'd worked out that he was fast enough to just run across the mother-flipping water before Sonic 3. Things would've been so much simpler. :)

Hydrocitycity's one of my favourite Sonic 3 zones. Not that there's many to choose from :p

Baloo

10-19-2009, 10:24 AM

If only he'd worked out that he was fast enough to just run across the mother-flipping water before Sonic 3. Things would've been so much simpler. :)

Hydrocitycity's one of my favourite Sonic 3 zones. Not that there's many to choose from :p

Can't he kind of run across the water in some of the Game Gear games?

Dr. Robotnik

10-19-2009, 12:26 PM

Oh man, I love Aquatic Ruin Zone! It's like the lost city of Atlantis! Great music, great artwork, and the boss is fun and unique.

Ditto. It's one of my favourites.

I'm also very surprised to see the amount of votes Casino Night Zone got. That level is pure fun, IMO. Minimum badniks, lots of gambling games, fun bumpers, springs, neon lights etc.

I love that level.

j_factor

10-19-2009, 04:53 PM

Can't he kind of run across the water in some of the Game Gear games?

He can "skip" across the water like a skip stone by repeatedly jumping.

Markss

10-19-2009, 07:49 PM

the level on sonic 3 where at the start the wall chases you cant remember its name sorry

Smii

10-19-2009, 08:39 PM

the level on sonic 3 where at the start the wall chases you cant remember its name sorry

Hydrocity, Act 2. Just requires proper application of spin-dash :)

Can't he kind of run across the water in some of the Game Gear games?

He can "skip" across the water like a skip stone by repeatedly jumping.

True - I'd forgotten about that :/ So where do those games fit into the big "time line"? Or is it just some kind of alternate dimension where Sonic has better aquatic powahs? Discuss, with reference to blah (or don't :) )