Fox News 1991 : Super Nintendo and Mario 4 "Cassette"

[sega fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0MbGdkbeEU&NR=1

You have to buy the new Super Nintendo Video system to play the new Mario 4 Cassette, apperently.

[Joe Redifer]

Did they seek out the most stupid people in the store to interview? "My son has a GameBoy and a Nintendo and now he wants a whole new system... doesn't seem right!" Welcome to life, lady. I bet she complains similarly about Blu-ray existing when DVD is already out, too. But did you see the Sega Master System games on the shelves? ROCK ON! Missile Defense 3D!

Ah, the good ol' days of "Nintendo game tapes".

[sega fan]

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[David J.]

Those two years of living in the UK being stuck with PAL and 50hz has really taken a toll on you.

[sega fan]

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[Flygon]

Uh, Blu-ray is worth it in my opinion. Why does everyone hate it? I personally actually like to see high definition material on my TV.

[sega fan]

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[Metal_Sonic]

YEA DAMN CORPORATE CAPITALISTS!!!! Why is it that you think that big bad corporate men are trying to MAKE you pay for movies YOU already own. Its not them trying to take money out your piggy bank, its for people like me who want a high definition, perfect sound, extra features, and all around better movie watching experience. HD-DVD can blow me, Bluray had the better all around package and guess what? HD-DVD was made by *gasp* CORPORATIONS?! No, they wont try to release a new format two years from now, that would be fucking retarded, like your idea.

[sega fan]

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[Joe Redifer]

Blu-ray is selling very well. People like stuff in HD, so a high definition format (which DVD cannot provide is absolutely necessary. You only hate it because you don't have a job and are too poor to afford it. Are you homeless or something? You sure act like it. Trust me, all of your whining won't make Blu-ray go away. It's here for good and you won't need it until you get an HDTV.

The MPEG2 video compression used for DVDs is crap. Compare:

http://www.joeredifer.com/crap/rooster.jpg

Just look at all of that noise and gibberish in the DVD version. Seriously, DVD was developed specifically for homeless people.

[sega fan]

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[Joe Redifer]

Listen. I am not whining about Blu-Ray
OH SHIT!!! YOU'RE RIGHT! How could I have missed that you were actually arguing about the value of the Mexican Peso and its effects on the rainforests everywhere in the world and the poor dying trees??!!! Ack! I can't believe I've been so blind!!!!

You're 14. You don't have a real job. You're poor.

Also I deleted your other post. I want you to learn how to use the EDIT button. It is not hard, I promise.

[sega fan]

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[gamevet]

I was thinking your long post was being sarcastic, Sega-Fan. Do you honestly believe that DVD is here to stay and that Blu-Ray is a soon to be dead format?

Comparing Blu-Ray to Betamax is just crazy. Betamax lost out to the less expensive technology, even though it was the superior format.

The advantages of Blu-Ray go beyond that of screen resolution. The Blu-Ray (and the dead HD-DVD) format offers better color depth, sound and totally elimimates the tiling effect that is present on DVD. It's almost as painful to watch a DVD, as it was to watch a VHS tape, after seeing movies on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. I've owned an HD television going on 3 years, and it was painfully obvious that DVD wasn't going to cut it.

[Joe Redifer]

I'm not tired or cranky, I just don't react well to such ignorance. It almost seems like you are just repeating daddy's beliefs on the subject instead of having formulated your own opinion by your very self. Your age is definitely a factor. Also keep in mind that the more you complain about the format, the more of a fool you'll look like in the future when you actually pick it up. Remember, lots of people complained the same exact way about DVD when it came out.

Look, there's no rush to buy it NOW. DVD is not going away tomorrow. All Blu-ray players also play and upscale DVDs. Stop freakin' out. As the generation right above yours likes to say... "don't hate!".

[sega fan]

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[Joe Redifer]

Yeah, I forgot that all of those in the military are pro-war peace haters.

[sega fan]

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[sega fan]

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[Mel]

i dn't really have that big of an interest in blue ray and hd-dvd died. then again i'm not above using vcd's...

[Metal_Sonic]

Now you're fucking with me, You're really starting to piss me off but I dont want to get violent. Joe, Remember, winning an internet argument is like winning the special olympics. You win, but you're still retarded. So lets stop before we want to go over to each others houses and want to beat the shit out of each other. Joe you should be in politics. You can really make people go insane, thats agift, treasure it and use it often.

Violent? go to his house and beat the shit out of him? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA anyways, since Joe won, does this mean you will FINALLY stop bitching and whining about Bluray?

[sega fan]

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[Joe Redifer]

Violent? Are you threatening me or something? I'm as calm as can be. I guess we should never try to improve consumer products, eh?

[Mr Smith]

I'm not tired or cranky
:o Lies! You are always tired and cranky!

I'm sorry to go back on-topic for a moment, but the media has always ignorant when it comes to video games. Scare mongering and sensationalising them as the downfall of society, while foolish crappy parents go out in hordes to buy their 11 year old the latest edition of GTA and then seem shocked when they discover this game contains violence/swearing/carnage/awesome.

I swear I had a point, however, it seems to have been consumed by a mini-rant.

[Sergeant_Sega]

<3 HD-DVD <3

I got like 100+ HD-DVD movies, and three players...

I REGRET NOTHING!

[Kikoskia]

Eh, I'll stick with DVDs because right now, I don't want to invest in the next step. I never really buy DVDs enough anyway - I only buy them because my computer can play them.

Back on topic, I would like to see people whining like this about the current generation when it came out. But then again, I'm sure there were people who did.

[108 Stars]

The reporters did not quite get that the SNES was not only needed for one game.....:)

[TmEE]

Nobody tells you to buy Blu-ray versions of all your DVDs... and aren't Blu-ray devices compatible with DVDs ? You won't lose anything...

[Kikoskia]

I'll do it when it becomes cheap enough. :)

[Joe Redifer]

TmEE is correct. Buy new movies on BD and keep your old ones on DVD. If you have an absolute favorite, then it might be worth upgrading to the BD version in time (like I did with Nightmare Before Christmas and Kill Bill). A lot of people are waiting until prices come down, and they will.

[j_factor]

I like it when the reporter talks about it "catching people by surprise" that they have to buy a "completely new hardware system" to play "Super Mario 4". Didn't people have to buy a completely new hardware system to buy Super Mario 1?

[dragonboy]

No it was out a while before in Japan.

[17daysolderthannes]

I love how they make it out like its a scam. For fucks sake, the NES had like 700+ licensed games and well over 800 total, if you don't want to buy a new system, just buy up NES games used or liquidated for pennies on the dollar. Shit, 95% of the reason I retro collect is because there is nothing in the current generation worth my money yet.

[108 Stars]

It´s a lie anyway, I got my SNES for less than 20 $!

[MN12BIRD]

Well the thing is the Video game industry was in a slouch when the NES came out. Sure it came out in what 1985 or 1986 but no one cared. It wasn't hype this, internet that when it was coming out. So most people I know including myself got the NES in 1989 and to the parents it would seem like only 2 years until they had to buy the next one! Not like that these days with the media and everything but most parents back then bought an NES in 1989 thinking it was the newest thing on the market, not realizing it was already 3 to 4 years old!

But the fact they keep calling them Cassettes is a giggle!

[Joe Redifer]

Nobody remembers when stores called the "game tapes"? Usually it was video rental stores who were the most guilty of this.

[Tanegashima]

Hey, games used to come on cassette...my dad had dozens of computer games on cassette...he used to bootleg them for his friends too...

Also, people being surprised about needing to buy new hardware isn't all that surprising given the era.

Nobody bought either the 5200 or 7800 so no one ever heard of a system being upgraded :D

Here is a good example, many of the computer games my dad had were very similar to these (i've never heard of these, this site is the result of a quick search).

http://www.ti994.com/1979/cassettes/

OH yeah and the Atari 2600 had several cassette loading games too...

[Iron Lizard]

Nobody remembers when stores called the "game tapes"? Usually it was video rental stores who were the most guilty of this.

Lots of people called them tapes ,usually older people but I think I have heard the word cassette used officially by Atari or Coleco.

[108 Stars]

Yes, the word cassette was officially used; but back when Nintendo released the NES they tried hard to establish new names for everything in order not to remind people of the video game crash a few years before.

[probablee]

:o Lies! You are always tired and cranky!

I'm sorry to go back on-topic for a moment, but the media has always ignorant when it comes to video games. Scare mongering and sensationalising them as the downfall of society, while foolish crappy parents go out in hordes to buy their 11 year old the latest edition of GTA and then seem shocked when they discover this game contains violence/swearing/carnage/awesome.

I swear I had a point, however, it seems to have been consumed by a mini-rant.

Oh, hypocrisy at large. When politicans don't want kids and teenagers to go out on murder rampages after playing Grand Theft Auto (4)... that's why it has a big, red '18+' BBFC Age Rating on the box, guys. Go figure!

There's also one Christmas where I saw this 11-year-old kid in GAME explaining to his mother that GTA3 and GTA: Vice City weren't as 'Bad' (explicit) as GTA:San Andreas (he wanted that XBox double box-set). I would've went and told her to get that brat a bicycle.

[Elusive]

Oh, hypocrisy at large. When politicans don't want kids and teenagers to go out on murder rampages after playing Grand Theft Auto (4)... that's why it has a big, red '18+' BBFC Age Rating on the box, guys. Go figure!

There's also one Christmas where I saw this 11-year-old kid in GAME explaining to his mother that GTA3 and GTA: Vice City weren't as 'Bad' (explicit) as GTA:San Andreas (he wanted that XBox double box-set). I would've went and told her to get that brat a bicycle.

Kids will always bend the truth or flat-out lie to get stuff, though. I remember pretending I liked Frosties for a fortnight so I could get a Sonic yo-yo, years go.

I still don't like Frosties, and I never got my yoyo :mad:

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there is nothing in the current generation worth my money yet.

Do you pay people using silver and gold coins?

[adamx]

OH SHIT!!! YOU'RE RIGHT! How could I have missed that you were actually arguing about the value of the Mexican Peso and its effects on the rainforests everywhere in the world and the poor dying trees??!!! Ack! I can't believe I've been so blind!!!!

You're 14. You don't have a real job. You're poor.

Also I deleted your other post. I want you to learn how to use the EDIT button. It is not hard, I promise.
n/m

[17daysolderthannes]

Well the thing is the Video game industry was in a slouch when the NES came out. Sure it came out in what 1985 or 1986 but no one cared. It wasn't hype this, internet that when it was coming out. So most people I know including myself got the NES in 1989 and to the parents it would seem like only 2 years until they had to buy the next one! Not like that these days with the media and everything but most parents back then bought an NES in 1989 thinking it was the newest thing on the market, not realizing it was already 3 to 4 years old!

But the fact they keep calling them Cassettes is a giggle!

That's true, I think alot of it had to do with people comparing it to a VCR or hell even the 2600. Plus, most people didn't have PCs unless they had a job that required one, so they didn't understand the ~5 year lifespan before total obsolescence. I got my NES in 1990 and thought I was late to the party, I guess I was doin OK after all :) . Too bad I didn't get my SNES till fuckin 94, thanks mom and dad :( .


Nobody remembers when stores called the "game tapes"? Usually it was video rental stores who were the most guilty of this.

I've found quite a few NES games with Blockbuster stickers that say "be kind, rewind." Yeah...let me get right on rewinding ROM chips on a silicon PCB...I'll let you know how it turns out.



Do you pay people using silver and gold coins?

if the situation calls for it.

Seriously though, are you referring to old school coin collecting games (SMB for instance) or saying I'm so old fashion I haven't heard of that new fangled paper money? Either way, yes, I keep it ballin with my gold coins thank you.

[j_factor]

Lots of people called them tapes ,usually older people but I think I have heard the word cassette used officially by Atari or Coleco.

I don't think I've ever seen cartridges officially called cassettes. Some games actually did come on cassettes, though. The Atari 2600 had a cassette reader called the Supercharger, and there were cassette games for Commodore 64 and other computers.


Yes, the word cassette was officially used; but back when Nintendo released the NES they tried hard to establish new names for everything in order not to remind people of the video game crash a few years before.

Nintendo tried to use the term "gamepak". It didn't catch on.

[dragonboy]

Whenever I hear the word "cassette" I think of some kind of little box with two reels of magnetic tape on the inside. Nintendo games have chips.

[Iron Lizard]

I swear I have seen this. I'll be scouring Google all night long.

Sorta what I was looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_Cassette_Vision

[probablee]

Whenever I hear the word "cassette" I think of some kind of little box with two reels of magnetic tape on the inside. Nintendo games have chips.

>_>; I think we've explained that mess-up on the News Report already. Oh! And those little magnetic tapes stored music during the 80's, and you could record your voice on them and make up your own imaginary radio show in the process too. :nod:

Commodore = cassette games also. http://retro-treasures.blogspot.com/2007/04/commodore-64128-games-bag-of-them.html

[108 Stars]

The term cassette was very widely used for cartridges even in the 16-Bit age in Germany. The more "advanced" gamers called them Modul, the stupid masses Kassette.

[Now there are no limits]

spacs

[dragonboy]

>_>; I think we've explained that mess-up on the News Report already. Oh! And those little magnetic tapes stored music during the 80's, and you could record your voice on them and make up your own imaginary radio show in the process too. :nod:

Commodore = cassette games also. http://retro-treasures.blogspot.com/2007/04/commodore-64128-games-bag-of-them.html

Why did you need to explain what an audio cassette is. I'm not stupid. I know that audio tapes record music and sound.

[Metal_Sonic]

Why did you need to explain what an audio cassette is. I'm not stupid. I know that audio tapes record music and sound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[Mr Smith]

Why did you need to explain what an audio cassette is. I'm not stupid. I know that audio tapes record music and sound.
:o All lies!

[dragonboy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

I know what sarcasm is. I am not an idiot.

[Phantar]

Sarcasm.
Some people got it.
Others just don't.

[Metal_Sonic]

I know what sarcasm is. I am not an idiot.

There is so many ways to turn this little comment around its not even funny.

[sega fan]

Why did you need to explain what an audio cassette is. I'm not stupid. I know that audio tapes record music and sound.


I know what sarcasm is. I am not an idiot.

www.facepalm.com

[TmEE]

Game cartridges are still called Kassett here, usually Kollane Kassett (yellow casette, the color of majority of FC pirate carts).

[playgen]

Megadrive and SMS carts are pretty much exactly the same size as a music cassette in a standard box. You can fit a cassette in a sms/md game case, not sure why you would want to, but you can.

[TmEE]

same for FC carts.

[esb09]

Could you even buy Super Mario World separately anyway?

[sega fan]

Could you even buy Super Mario World separately anyway?

After it stopped being a pack-in.