View Full Version : Does anyone know why Moonwalker has suddenly become valuable?
lilmul123
01-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Take this auction for instance: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sega-Genesis-Michael-Jacksons-Moonwalker-Complete_W0QQitemZ230317826914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZV ideo_Games_Games?hash=item230317826914&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
I got my complete copy about a year ago for ~$20, but now, that's how much cartridge-only copies seem to sell for with completes going for ~$40 easily.
Does anyone have any idea why it's suddenly worth so much to people?
Hey, funny you should mention that, I've noticed it too over the past 3-4 months but on eBay.co.uk so it must be a world-wide phenomena!
Jacko-fever! HEIII-HEEEE-CHAAAMOWN!
MrMatthews
01-15-2009, 09:30 PM
I think it's a pretty clear-cut sign that the world is ready to love Michael again
bohokii
01-15-2009, 09:32 PM
could it be the avgn bump
I think it's a pretty clear-cut sign that the world is ready to love Michael again
I never stopped loving him, and he never stopped loving me...
...
...
... I'll get my coat and see myself out.
lilmul123
01-15-2009, 09:47 PM
could it be the avgn bump
Good call. I forgot all about that.
Rusty Venture
01-15-2009, 11:07 PM
People have to get their Michael fix.
Or they love dancing spiders.
16-bit
01-15-2009, 11:17 PM
could it be the avgn bump
I don't think so, the average price was 40$ complete before he did his review.
lilmul123
01-15-2009, 11:18 PM
That's weird then. You'd think since the economy is in such shambles that the price would go DOWN instead of up.
17daysolderthannes
01-15-2009, 11:47 PM
could it be the avgn bump
wouldn't be the first time, Virtual Boys shot up after his review, as did Sega CDs IIRC, which is annoying since you have to be an asshat for the AVGN to influence your video game purchases. "Oh, he did a review? I gotta have it now!"
I bought my copy of moonwalker for $10 from a dude that grabbed a whole crapload of Genesis games from a goodwill for almost nothing. Its technically loose, though it did come in a clamshell with a Funcoland insert (which I think is pretty cool, and IMO adds a little value to it since I'm sure those things are pretty uncommon nowadays, the only other time I've seen it is some Sega CD games I bought in a lot had them). It just lists the instructions and what not on a little colored paper printout.
lilmul123
01-15-2009, 11:57 PM
Oh, Funcoland, how I miss thee.
Rusty Venture
01-16-2009, 03:33 AM
I got my (2nd) copy of SMB3 at Funcoland, long before people started charging $30 for a cart only copy.
Zebbe
01-16-2009, 04:55 AM
I got my Moonwalker copy for 100 Swedish Kronor back in fourth grade I think. The guy I bought it from was a video game fanatic who later became a Jesus fanatic and relocated to USA as a missionaire.
Rusty Venture
01-16-2009, 05:23 AM
If anyone else in Sweden becomes a Jesus freak and wants to move to the US, tell them we have enough already.
Zebbe
01-16-2009, 05:37 AM
OK, we'll just redirect to to Israel/Palestina instead. Especially at times like these...
nissling
01-16-2009, 09:06 AM
Moonwalker is expensive becuse it's a great game! :D
Youngie
01-16-2009, 09:10 AM
How come Moonwalker is so valuable? Sure it has Michael Jackson but "Home Alone" has Macaulay Culkin (world famous kid actor) and that Genesis game ain't worth much at all.
Zebbe
01-16-2009, 10:53 AM
The victim is always worth less than the perpetrator.
Christuserloeser
01-16-2009, 11:08 AM
It is because of AVGN. He announced his Moonwalker review on his website long before it got released.
chrisbid
01-16-2009, 11:23 AM
The internet is funny beast. It only takes a handful of people (out of 300 million in the country) to bid up the value of a game on ebay. Adding to that, Moonwalker wasn't produced in very high numbers as it was released in the pre-sonic era, and MJ is probably still one of the strangest video game licensed characters around.
With the resurrgence of hair metal, I wouldn't be surpised if CrueBall starts becoming valueable.
The Sports Guy
01-16-2009, 11:29 AM
I didnt think that the AVGN's review of this game was that great, and I am a loyal viewer since the very first video. I dont know why this game has become so expensive. I dont have it either.
Rusty Venture
01-16-2009, 02:24 PM
I played the rom of this game years ago. I don't really see what the big deal about this game is (aside from MJ) the gameplay was pretty average.
playgen
01-16-2009, 02:30 PM
The game has been discussed a lot on the net lately, and its definitly one of the most famous games for the console that everyone remembers, and thus wants to get now. But its one of those games that fetches a high price, but can still easily be bought cheaply if you search a bit, plenty of copies out there.
When I was playing it recently, it struck me that its pretty much just a simplified version of the original Shinobi.
MrMatthews
01-16-2009, 02:34 PM
I'll second what Rusty said, and in the process make this post completely superfluous.
Jesse813
01-16-2009, 03:17 PM
I got my (2nd) copy of SMB3 at Funcoland, long before people started charging $30 for a cart only copy.
30$ for a cart only? thats a ripoff. I got my copy for 5$ and thats about what its worth in my view with the millions of copies floating around.
ThunderForce
01-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Because we all want to see him grab his balls.
Christuserloeser
01-16-2009, 06:42 PM
I played the rom of this game years ago. I don't really see what the big deal about this game is (aside from MJ) the gameplay was pretty average.
Well, yeah, it is: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6336
Rusty Venture
01-16-2009, 10:17 PM
30$ for a cart only? thats a ripoff. I got my copy for 5$ and thats about what its worth in my view with the millions of copies floating around.
Yeah, well I've seen that proice at quite a few game shops.
I guess the name "Mario" demands a premium.
MrMatthews
01-16-2009, 10:33 PM
I guess it also depends on where you shop. I saw a complete Mario 3 here locally for $5.99. Should have bought it, but for some reason I didn't. I bought Spyhunter and Ninja Gaiden instead.
Mr Smith
01-17-2009, 05:39 AM
Even a few years ago I though Moonwalker was more expensive than it should be, but those sorts of prices are retarded. Aside from the music Moonwalker doesn't really have anything to shout about.
johnnyb
01-17-2009, 05:43 AM
Moonwalker was CIB for $15 over here not too long ago... I thought nah and bought super hang-on instead! Thinking back now I probably should have bought it as well!
KnightWarrior
01-18-2009, 01:59 AM
Next thing the game would command like $70, & I don't think that's going to happen
Rusty Venture
01-18-2009, 03:54 AM
Anyone who pays $70 for "Moonwalker" needs to be bombed off the face of the earth.
KnightWarrior
01-19-2009, 02:19 PM
You got a point there...
I hope it dosn't come to that
17daysolderthannes
01-19-2009, 03:10 PM
30$ for a cart only? thats a ripoff. I got my copy for 5$ and thats about what its worth in my view with the millions of copies floating around.
Like I say in every value thread, if you think that's bad, FF VII was the second highest produced PSX game with several million copies made, yet sells for up to $90 or even more on eBay. Fanboy bullshit in full swing, especially considering it sold for YEARS at $20 NEW.
Yeah, well I've seen that proice at quite a few game shops.
I guess the name "Mario" demands a premium.
it always does, if there was a game called "Mario's lump of shit" it would outsell an actually good game 10 to 1.
I guess it also depends on where you shop. I saw a complete Mario 3 here locally for $5.99. Should have bought it, but for some reason I didn't. I bought Spyhunter and Ninja Gaiden instead.
I saw an ABSOLUTELY mint copy of SMB 3 for $20, but I had just been laid off (they just completely got rid of my job altogether) and didn't know how long it would be till I would get another job. I'm still pissed about that because Mario 3 is in my top 5 favorite NES games. At least I had the foresight to buy Chrono Trigger for $30 :)
Jesse813
01-19-2009, 05:44 PM
Like I say in every value thread, if you think that's bad, FF VII was the second highest produced PSX game with several million copies made, yet sells for up to $90 or even more on eBay. Fanboy bullshit in full swing, especially considering it sold for YEARS at $20 NEW.
yes you have a good point. those darn Final Fantasy games are Expensive, as for my Mario games, luckily I've had these for years and most I didnt have to pay for (the joys of Childhood) and the others I got before the Retro Gaming Hype started.
Keranu
02-17-2009, 02:52 AM
I think it's a pretty clear-cut sign that the world is ready to love Michael again
Michael could've brought world peace, but greedy society had to get their grubby hands on his fortune. :mad:
Rusty Venture
02-17-2009, 05:25 PM
I never learned how to moonwalk. :(
cj iwakura
02-17-2009, 06:35 PM
Space Channel 5's immense popularity?
....
:(
Youngie
02-17-2009, 06:37 PM
What about Final Fantasy 7's immense popularity?
Madness.
Iron Lizard
02-17-2009, 11:52 PM
I never could get into that game. I have tried three times now. I just don't get it.
Youngie
02-18-2009, 01:47 PM
I never could get into that game. I have tried three times now. I just don't get it.
Final Fantasy 7? That game is seriously strange.
17daysolderthannes
02-18-2009, 06:51 PM
I never could get into that game. I have tried three times now. I just don't get it.
I feel that way about EVERY RPG, especially turn based ones. Some action RPGs are beat-em-up enough that I can tolerate them, but regular RPGs are just a mindless waste of time. No skill, no strategy, just guess and check fighting until you figure out which of 6000 items kills a certain bad guy, fucking gay. These RPG pussies need to play a real game like Metal Slug, Street Fighter II, Mega Man, Fatal Fury/other SNK fighters, etc. and stop all this weenie bullshit story nonsense with no real game substance.
Tanegashima
02-18-2009, 07:07 PM
...they're just video games...
MrMatthews
02-18-2009, 07:47 PM
The only RPG I've ever played was the original Dragon Warrior for the NES. Some of you may recall that Nintendo gave out a free copy of the game with a subscription to Nintendo Power, and it came with a handy dandy strategy guide (and I don't think I would have gotten anywhere close to completing the game without it, I think).
I had a lot of fun with that one, but I've never been compelled to pick up another game from the genre.
Rusty Venture
02-18-2009, 11:25 PM
Wasn't FF7 just a movie with playable video game sections every now and then?
Exolen
02-19-2009, 12:02 AM
FF7 was great, first 3d Final Fantasy and had a great story to go along with it.
Rusty Venture
02-19-2009, 12:59 AM
So that's a yes?
edojapan76
06-25-2009, 08:52 PM
So now the price for Moonwalker should hit the roof
Beastech
06-25-2009, 09:01 PM
It is already skyrocketing.
JRedmond3
06-25-2009, 09:04 PM
MJ Moonwalker is probably never going to drop below 50$ again.
jerry coeurl
06-25-2009, 09:24 PM
Fuckin' aye, man. I should have bought it when I had a chance.
The Coop
06-25-2009, 09:30 PM
You're not missing much, so don't sweat it. Just go to project2612.org and download the soundtrack. The rest of the game isn't really memorable.
jerry coeurl
06-25-2009, 10:38 PM
It's the principle of the thing! A Sega game, starring Michael Jackson! That's two of my favorite things rolled into one, and it is my secret shame that I don't own it.
Da_Shocker
06-25-2009, 11:25 PM
To bad all the mom and pop stores have died. I got mine for under 10 dollar cib too.
mick_aka
06-26-2009, 12:24 AM
Oh FFS...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110407426960
Idiots.
The Coop
06-26-2009, 12:57 AM
I love how all of a sudden the game is a rare and priceless classic just because MJ died. If anyone buys it at these inflated prices, they deserve to be ripped off for having more money than brains.
Iron Lizard
06-26-2009, 01:01 AM
Its nuts. Almost all of them have bids on them. Why am I selling the things I am when I can sell the crap that is Moonwalker and make some money.
edojapan76
06-26-2009, 01:56 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/MICHAEL-JACKSONS-MOONWALKER-GENESIS-THRILLER-ALBUM_W0QQitemZ110407470294QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusi c_on_Vinyl?hash=item19b4cc4cd6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
I think this one wins:daze:
I wonder what my Jap. sealed copy is worth now?
I figure by Ebay prices at least 10G :cool:
kool kitty89
06-26-2009, 02:46 AM
Yeah, it should come back down eventually though. (though the game was above average price in box already, still I can't see this lasting that long) Immagine what a version for the Sega CD would be going for had they released a version for it!
Crazy people.
May he RIP though.
Phantar
06-26-2009, 04:19 AM
Damn vultures.
I really hate it to see when people try to rip others off and only see an opportunity to cash in over someone else's death!
It probably won't be long until pirate repros of Moonwalker will be offered at ebay for insane prices! Considering how (in)famous Michael Jackson was, it will take a while before this ebbs down... and as with Lady Diana's death, maybe it won't ever.
Oh, the humanity...
edojapan76
06-26-2009, 09:05 AM
Ya but what scares me is the fact that people are bidding this game to over $100. Hell on Wednesday it was next to impossible to get 20 bucks for this game. If I had an American copy I would probably sell it too.
So you can't really fault someone for listing it an astronomical price, chances are it won't sell. If someone offered me a $1000+ for anything that cost me $50, I would be the worlds biggest idiot if I didn't sell it. Hey even if someone wanted to give a $100 for each one of my Genesis games I would sell them all right now. I could use the $10,000 & a profit of $9,500 would be really hard to pass up.
Da_Shocker
06-26-2009, 09:08 AM
Just idiotic people really. I mean if this shit get's high enuff I mite try and sell mine at 500.00 lol I could use the money.
Sickboy_uk
06-26-2009, 10:14 AM
I still havent got this for my collection yet, oh well i will wait a little before i buy it me thinks.
mick_aka
06-26-2009, 11:16 AM
$2000 anyone?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110407470294
The cheap bastard isn't even offering free postage for that.
Buy hey, you get a copy of Thriller so it all good.
rsa501
06-26-2009, 11:32 AM
I find it funny how just the other day ppl made fun of jacko, heck i know more jackson jokes than any other. Everyone cracked on him, he dies and everyone
is all oh im gonna miss him he was so great etc.... as for the price of moonwalker it's a fad. give it a few months and it will settle.
mick_aka
06-26-2009, 01:45 PM
So basically sell all your copies now and re-buy in a few months :D
FoxHound
06-26-2009, 01:45 PM
I still havent got this for my collection yet, oh well i will wait a little before i buy it me thinks.
i am in the same boat as you are. I will wait, most likely get in lot of games where the normal people of ebay would bother to look and jack up the prices to some retarted price
Iron Lizard
06-26-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm sure when I go to Bookmarks in the next few days they will have put out a copy for a few hundred. They always try to justify thier over priced "Collector games" prices. One guy told me they they are like "Comic books" to which I replied "I have never seen any $20,000 games"
TheEdge
06-26-2009, 03:13 PM
vultures.....get a job, fight for your economic rights, and stop feeding like human piranhas.
AD2101
06-26-2009, 04:40 PM
I'm sure when I go to Bookmarks in the next few days they will have put out a copy for a few hundred. They always try to justify thier over priced "Collector games" prices. One guy told me they they are like "Comic books" to which I replied "I have never seen any $20,000 games"
Do you think Goodwill and some of the smaller shops are going to exploit this as badly as Bookman's will? You would like to think that some where will still have some sense about it but if this is just going to turn into some massive cash grab then shit.
KnightWarrior
06-26-2009, 08:08 PM
Well I got the Master System version cart only for $8 on ebay uk
Baloo
06-26-2009, 08:40 PM
I'm sure when I go to Bookmarks in the next few days they will have put out a copy for a few hundred. They always try to justify thier over priced "Collector games" prices. One guy told me they they are like "Comic books" to which I replied "I have never seen any $20,000 games"
But there are $15,000 games, so yeah, your point isn't all that refutable.
Wesker
06-26-2009, 08:44 PM
As soon as MJ's death momentum passes away, the pricing of the game should be back where it usually was. Moonwalker is far from being rare, no way it will keep up that insane price rating for a very long time.
MrMatthews
06-26-2009, 08:45 PM
Its nuts. Almost all of them have bids on them. Why am I selling the things I am when I can sell the crap that is Moonwalker and make some money.
No shit. I'm looking at that boxed copy I have on my shelf that I don't even like all that much. If I knew for sure I'd get $100 or so I'd throw it up on Ebay right now.
Baloo
06-26-2009, 09:01 PM
No shit. I'm looking at that boxed copy I have on my shelf that I don't even like all that much. If I knew for sure I'd get $100 or so I'd throw it up on Ebay right now.
Well, you know for sure now, two copies of the game were sold for $260 and $202 by the same seller. They were misleading though, the stock photo and title said Genesis, while the description said Master System.
Diosoth
06-27-2009, 07:00 AM
Just because I didn't like the guy when he was alive, doesn't mean I'm sorry that he's dead.
He was a music sensation... in the 80s. In the 90s he started molesting children and it apparently didn't stop. He went through countless surgeries to become caucasian and slept in a hyperbaric chamber.
With all the boys he was touching, he's probably lucky some angry parent didn't kill him long ago.
Just like Heath Ledger. Screws up the Joker by letting Nolan ruin the origin story, painting himself in cheap makeup, then we're supposed to go see the movie because he died. From a self-inflicted drug overdose. Guy had everything and still wasn't happy. I don't feel sorry for celebrities who die. Ever. It amazes me tat someone with a fortune either feels depressed or blows every cent they have and dies penniless. It's as if these people- who are basically HANDED happiness on a plate- can't be content.
Someone's trying to "sell" the arcade game or $5000. It's not even that good of a game!
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tag/1240823214.html
Christuserloeser
06-27-2009, 07:35 AM
Artists need constant reassurance that they're special. It's a psychological thing. You wouldn't become an artist or celebrity if you're happy with the attention you get.
Youngie
06-27-2009, 07:39 AM
With all the boys he was touching, he's probably lucky some angry parent didn't kill him long ago.
Jackson was actually found to be innocent of all charges.
Mr Smith
06-27-2009, 07:56 AM
Jackson was actually found to be innocent of all charges.
Shhhh! Don't let the rule of law get in the way of hurling unfounded allegations in the direction of dead celebrities. :roll:
Black_Tiger
06-27-2009, 12:30 PM
Just like Heath Ledger. Screws up the Joker by letting Nolan ruin the origin story, painting himself in cheap makeup, then we're supposed to go see the movie because he died.
I don't think that Heath Ledger was in charge of that $300(?) million dollar film.
The Joker doesn't have a definitive origin story, but Dark Knight is line with the comics in that the Joker never remembers it the same. What is widely considered to be the most definitive origin story is Alan Moore's take, which is actually worse than Wolverine Origins. He should never have let DC let him allow DC to publish something so lame that it tarnishes an established character (although fanboys eat it up).
Given your unique view, I know you won't be convinced by anything, but Dark Knight was heavily anticipated and was expected to be the biggest movie of the summer and a record breaker before Heath Ledger died. People didn't watch or buy the movie because Heath Ledger died, but many avoided it because he dared to apear in Brokeback Mountain.
The Jackal
06-27-2009, 02:50 PM
Have you seen the prices for his albums? My sister brought Moonwalker on DVD about a month ago for £3.50 and now people are selling for around £20 to £30!!
I mean the guy was a legend and all (regards of the child abuse claims), but this is silly!
People are clearly cashing in on he's death and no matter which way you look at it, it's down right evil and cruel....
gamegenie
06-27-2009, 03:04 PM
I wish SEGA would released the best version, the arcade version on Xbox Live Arcade.
Metal_Sonic
06-27-2009, 03:56 PM
People are clearly cashing in on he's death and no matter which way you look at it, it's down right evil and cruel....
Is it really? Why are people paying these insane prices for something that was so cheap? Takes two to tango.
Youngie
06-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Why are people paying these insane prices for something that was so cheap?
Mankind has its fair share of idiots.
jerry coeurl
06-27-2009, 04:37 PM
He was a music sensation... in the 80s. In the 90s he started molesting children and it apparently didn't stop. He went through countless surgeries to become caucasian and slept in a hyperbaric chamber.
With all the boys he was touching, he's probably lucky some angry parent didn't kill him long ago.
You're a moron.
Just like Heath Ledger. Screws up the Joker by letting Nolan ruin the origin story, painting himself in cheap makeup, then we're supposed to go see the movie because he died. From a self-inflicted drug overdose.
Yeah. A moron.
Youngie
06-27-2009, 04:39 PM
You're a moron. Yeah. A moron.
Jerry stop being so nice to him.
jerry coeurl
06-27-2009, 05:04 PM
I just feel like I should correct his stupidity online, before he has a chance to make an ass of himself in public!
16-bit
06-27-2009, 05:44 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo
doomguy
06-27-2009, 06:01 PM
im lucky enough to have both the master system and megadrive versions mint got em for 50p each weird thing is i think the ms version is better i like the power ups and the way you dont have to walk to the boss fights but thats off topic its just because his death has sparked alot of interest in him again im sure the prices will be cheaper before the year is over whatever i wouldnt sell them for any price im a michael jackson fan!
Mordan
06-27-2009, 06:05 PM
it's down right evil and cruel....
no it is not. it is the free market. people speculate on the collectibles
Devil N
06-27-2009, 06:09 PM
Reading the original topic title, that question seems a bit silly now...
doomguy
06-27-2009, 06:18 PM
i never completely understood why people think things are worth more after people die i think its kind of sick for someone to make money from somebodys death
gamegenie
06-27-2009, 06:42 PM
Reading the original topic title, that question seems a bit silly now...
which is why my thread shouldn't have got locked for this old thread.
i never completely understood why people think things are worth more after people die i think its kind of sick for someone to make money from somebodys death
For most cases, I'm pretty aware that they know it's not rare. They're just cashing in, as you said.
17daysolderthannes
06-27-2009, 07:42 PM
at the moment I think people are just curious as hell about the game because some news program mentioned it or something so now everyone has to see what its about, yet they aren't aware of ludicrously easy emulation methods. Anyone that buys MJ Moonwalker for $200 right now as an investment is a fucking retard.
im lucky enough to have both the master system and megadrive versions mint got em for 50p each weird thing is i think the ms version is better i like the power ups and the way you dont have to walk to the boss fights but thats off topic its just because his death has sparked alot of interest in him again im sure the prices will be cheaper before the year is over whatever i wouldnt sell them for any price im a michael jackson fan!
But the MS version doesn't have the little extra sprinkle of weirdness that is Bubbles the chimp directing you to the boss fight, or MJ dancing with your foes until they die! :)
it is the free market. people speculate on the collectibles
Yes, it's always the same when a mega-famous celeb dies, people go crazy. It's not really "cruel and evil" to take advantage of that. If you had a spare copy of the game, wouldn't you prefer to magically transform it into dorrars via the medium of evilbay? Wouldn't you want as many dorrar as possible? Yep. "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism!" (really I just like the song (http://www.boingo.org/lyrics/Capitalism.html) ;) )
Ftr, I don't have any Moonwalker spares - but when that blue hedgehog finally dies, I'll be rich as kings :p
Mordan
06-27-2009, 08:02 PM
Yes, it's always the same when a mega-famous celeb dies, people go crazy. It's not really "cruel and evil" to take advantage of that. If you had a spare copy of the game, wouldn't you prefer to magically transform it into dorrars via the medium of evilbay? Wouldn't you want as many dorrar as possible? Yep. "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism!" (really I just like the song (http://www.boingo.org/lyrics/Capitalism.html) ;) )
sure the price will go down. I'm willing to sell moonwalker for 50$
you will always have suckers who bought Crude Oil at 147$
i trade on the Forex and that's the way it works, sometimes you get price irrational spikes spurred by one event. MJ death is such an event. speculation. is it evil and cruel to buy stuff on the cheap or sell at the top?
did you know that 3 centuries ago people would go crazy over tulips bulbs, especially in the Netherlands where people would sell their house to buy rare tulip bulbs... the price were said to go forever up! same story with real estate in the USA.
i wish I had bought many moonwalkers, it is funny that the price had already been going up for awhile... as if the market was predicting his death..
AD2101
06-27-2009, 09:14 PM
which is why my thread shouldn't have got locked for this old thread.
:Panda:
at the moment I think people are just curious as hell about the game because some news program mentioned it or something so now everyone has to see what its about, yet they aren't aware of ludicrously easy emulation methods. Anyone that buys MJ Moonwalker for $200 right now as an investment is a fucking retard.
I'm pretty sure it has much less to do with playing the game as it does physically owning a rather obscure piece of MJ memorabilia. Still though I wish people would use some common sense here because there's *almost* no way this price can stick. If it does, my head will explode from trying to come to terms with the fact that this game is one of, if not the most, valuable official release in the US Genesis library.
It amazes me tat someone with a fortune either feels depressed or blows every cent they have and dies penniless. It's as if these people- who are basically HANDED happiness on a plate- can't be content.
If you think happiness equals money, you've been had.
Knuckle Duster
06-28-2009, 08:35 AM
at the moment I think people are just curious as hell about the game because some news program mentioned it or something so now everyone has to see what its about, yet they aren't aware of ludicrously easy emulation methods. Anyone that buys MJ Moonwalker for $200 right now as an investment is a fucking retard.
It's not an investment. It's just memorabilia that fans want, coincidentally jacked in price due to his name hauling lots of traffic across marketplaces.
The price will die down to sane levels within a year I'm sure.
The Jackal
06-28-2009, 01:37 PM
no it is not. it is the free market. people speculate on the collectibles
Yes, it is. Don't want to go on debating this, but selling the game 10 times it's original price just because the guy is dead is wrong.
I have the game, but there is no way I would sell for the price it's going for on Ebay = cashing in on his death is wrong and if you don't see it that way, well I'm sorry for you.
Remember this is my opinion, if you don't like it, fine. Just don't take offence.
17daysolderthannes
06-28-2009, 01:47 PM
Yes, it is. Don't want to go on debating this, but selling the game 10 times it's original price just because the guy is dead is wrong.
I have the game, but there is no way I would sell for the price it's going for on Ebay = cashing in on his death is wrong and if you don't see it that way, well I'm sorry for you.
Remember this is my opinion, if you don't like it, fine. Just don't take offence.
i don't see it as cashing in on his death, I see it as cashing in on the stupidity of 99% of the world, which is A OK, lol. Tabloids and "news" programs are cashing in on his death with their updates every 30 seconds followed by a 5 minute commercial break. Can't wholly say I blame them though, if people want to hear it, why not? if they are a sensationalist news show/channel, its what they're there for. There are very few jobs in the world that you can truly call "genuine" or "pure" and aren't there primarily to collect a paycheck.
edit: OMG, these things really are selling at sky high prices! $10 says it subsides in a month or two, this is just an initial frenzy, it won't STAY that high.
Mordan
06-29-2009, 11:45 AM
I have the game, but there is no way I would sell for the price it's going for on Ebay
if you don't sell, either your are
1)principled and therefore economically uncanny
2)thinking the price will go up
3)lazy :)
a ROI of 1000% is stunning.
The Jackal
06-29-2009, 12:11 PM
Or:
(4) Love this game and a decent human being.
gamevet
06-29-2009, 05:03 PM
Yes, it is. Don't want to go on debating this, but selling the game 10 times it's original price just because the guy is dead is wrong.
I have the game, but there is no way I would sell for the price it's going for on Ebay = cashing in on his death is wrong and if you don't see it that way, well I'm sorry for you.
Remember this is my opinion, if you don't like it, fine. Just don't take offence.
There's nothing wrong with selling your copy of Moon Walker and the demand making it worth more that you'd normally get for it.
I have a bigger issue with people creating products (like T-Shirts) to cash in on someone's death. I'm pretty sure that Sony is already working on a new video or CD compilation to commerate Jackson and the Jackson 5.
I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't buy the Michael Jackson music video compilation Fry's was pushing about 4 months ago. I doubt I'll be able to find one anytime soon and that is where the price gouging will begin on Ebay.
Youngie
06-29-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that Sony is already working on a new video or CD compilation to commerate Jackson and the Jackson 5.
Yes that's Michael Jackson: Greatest Hits #1004.
There's nothing wrong with selling your copy of Moon Walker and the demand making it worth more that you'd normally get for it.
I have a bigger issue with people creating products (like T-Shirts) to cash in on someone's death. I'm pretty sure that Sony is already working on a new video or CD compilation to commerate Jackson and the Jackson 5.
Yes. So much tacky (http://cgi.ebay.com/MICHAEL-JACKSON-Tribute-Dog-Tag-Pendant-Necklace_W0QQitemZ140330249067QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20ac55ab6b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1326%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50) weird (http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-Death-Life-Tribute-Truck-Limited-MINT_W0QQitemZ190317538845QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_To ys_Hobbies_Diecast_Vehicles?hash=item2c4fcf2e1d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A10%7C294%3A50) crap (http://cgi.ebay.com/MICHAEL-JACKSON-TRIBUTE-MUGSHOT-SHOT-GLASS-VINTAGE-SET_W0QQitemZ350218609265QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item518aa7e271&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A16%7C294%3A50) on evilbay atm, it's actually quite funny. Not least candles (http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-Candle-1_W0QQitemZ120441353529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item1c0add3539&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50). (I'm sure there must be a better way to remember MJ than, well, melting his face a bit... :?)
But you can't even blame the evilbayers for trying really. They're just supplying the temporary demand of the crazies. There's loads more morally questionable ways to make money. Selling recently-dead-celebrity tat (yes, including videogames with pixellated versions of Mr Jackson) to mad collectors is probably among the least. (I.e - in most cases it probably doesn't make you any less of a "decent human being", Mr The Jackal :) )
Ghaleon
06-30-2009, 12:28 AM
Yes. So much tacky (http://cgi.ebay.com/MICHAEL-JACKSON-Tribute-Dog-Tag-Pendant-Necklace_W0QQitemZ140330249067QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20ac55ab6b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1326%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50) weird (http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-Death-Life-Tribute-Truck-Limited-MINT_W0QQitemZ190317538845QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_To ys_Hobbies_Diecast_Vehicles?hash=item2c4fcf2e1d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A10%7C294%3A50) crap (http://cgi.ebay.com/MICHAEL-JACKSON-TRIBUTE-MUGSHOT-SHOT-GLASS-VINTAGE-SET_W0QQitemZ350218609265QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item518aa7e271&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A16%7C294%3A50) on evilbay atm, it's actually quite funny. Not least candles (http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-Candle-1_W0QQitemZ120441353529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item1c0add3539&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50). (I'm sure there must be a better way to remember MJ than, well, melting his face a bit... :?)
Actually, that's where you're wrong, considering this line from "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough":
"I'm Melting (I'm Melting)
Like Hot Candle Wax...."
So there ya go: he wanted to be remembered that way, he's telling us so, from beyond the grave, but while he was still alive. :daze:
I love how there's three pics of the candle one and it tells you to get them while they last.
I won't mind if Sony cashes in on MJ's death by releasing Moonwalker on BR disc in the U.S.
Da_Shocker
06-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Value has went down drastically due to an over abundance of copys.
http://catalog.ebay.com/Michael-Jacksons-Moonwalker_010086010138?_catref=1&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_fifpts=1&_pcategid=139973&_pcatid=2&_pid=56237095&_refkw=michael+jackson+moonwalker+sega&_trksid=p3286.c0.m271
Rusty Venture
06-30-2009, 08:49 PM
Shamon
http://www.thebritblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/michael_jackson.jpg
Hee-hee
I got nothing to add about the (still) insane ebay prices
KnightWarrior
06-30-2009, 11:47 PM
the price is still high for the Genesis Game
gamegenie
07-01-2009, 06:53 AM
I don't think those prices will ever go down, this game which was once fully abundant is now about to become rare. :(
I wish SEGA would put out Moonwalker on Xbox Live. If it's the arcade version, I'll forget about the Genesis edition fast.
Even better if they re-released Moonwalker arcade as actual cased game. That would be 100% times better collecting than that old Genesis version. But that I know for sure will never happen.
Baloo
07-01-2009, 02:49 PM
Looks like they prices are still pretty high, ranging from about $60-80 dollars. They're definitely not as high as they were a few days ago, but the game has still doubled in value, and I have a feeling that these prices will probably average out in this range.
Jesse813
07-18-2009, 12:33 PM
The Newest Greatest Place to talk about all things Michael Jackson 24/7: Michael Jackson's Holy Neverland Ranch Temple
Phantar
07-18-2009, 12:37 PM
I'm kind of getting the impression that all the time, Jesse813 was only a spambot in disguise...
Jesse813
07-18-2009, 12:42 PM
Now Phantar Theres nothing wrong w/ Raul having a little competition from Michael
kool kitty89
07-19-2009, 01:58 AM
I don't think those prices will ever go down, this game which was once fully abundant is now about to become rare. :(
I wish SEGA would put out Moonwalker on Xbox Live. If it's the arcade version, I'll forget about the Genesis edition fast.
Even better if they re-released Moonwalker arcade as actual cased game. That would be 100% times better collecting than that old Genesis version. But that I know for sure will never happen.
From reviews and gmaeplay footage I've seen, the arcade game is not nearly as fun as the Genny game, at least for extended periods of play. (completely different game, isometric view, different level layout, though same premise)
Pulstar
07-20-2009, 07:11 AM
From reviews and gmaeplay footage I've seen, the arcade game is not nearly as fun as the Genny game, at least for extended periods of play. (completely different game, isometric view, different level layout, though same premise)
You could always try it yourself in MAME (unless you're an emulation virgin). Agreed though the Megadrive game is miles more entertaining than the arcade game.
kool kitty89
07-20-2009, 04:35 PM
I may get arround to that some time, but I'm not particularly interested. I haven't used MAME yet either. (It seems a bit more comples than the average emu -more set-up required, I may eventually get arround to that too, but my old PC probably isn't good for a lot of stuff -1.4 GHz Athlon XP 1600+ my laptop would probably be OK as long as there aren't any problems using Vista32)
sonictails
07-21-2009, 09:45 AM
A bit late but RIP MJ. Might be a good idea to try and track down a copy. Might be a bit valuable in the future.
i like the mastersystem version more
gamevet
07-21-2009, 06:44 PM
I may get arround to that some time, but I'm not particularly interested. I haven't used MAME yet either. (It seems a bit more comples than the average emu -more set-up required, I may eventually get arround to that too, but my old PC probably isn't good for a lot of stuff -1.4 GHz Athlon XP 1600+ my laptop would probably be OK as long as there aren't any problems using Vista32)
My laptop runs MAME just fine and in some cases it runs smoother than my old 2GHZ Celeron based desktop computer, with an old GeForce FX5200.
My laptop has a Pentium M processor running at 1.7 GHZ and I don't even know what kind of crappy on board graphics chip it's running.
You should check out videos on youtube, that explain how to set up MAME. It really is worth the time to figure out. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg7Nidhg12U) looks like the one I'd used as a way to figure out how to run MAME.
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