Knuckles Chaotix

[Mel]

ok finally got my 32x and knuckles chaotix, and all I can say is... Wow what an odd game...

Fun, colorful, interesting, odd.

[j_factor]

I think it's a blast with two people, but pretty so-so by onesself.

[Mel]

Ok, I've put about an hour into the game already. I don't like the level selection and team mate selection scheme. Its supposed to be random, though it feels like you can control it somewhat. Besides I prefer the linear level style of the sonic series.

But in regards to game play, I feel its a tad on the easy side, but overall quite a bit of fun. Even by myself, I feel the controls are tight, the levels are beautiful, and the music is great.

i don't see why so many people hated on this game when it was released. I suppose expectations are the cause? Maybe people siimply don't like change. I like the ruberband system, it adds an interesting dimension to platform gameplay.

[tim333]

Hey, I enjoyed Chaotix. What I hated was the fact that I had spent all my money on a black mushroom that did almost nothing.

[Mel]

Agreed, less than 40 games, is a crappy library. Sega shouldn't have abandoned it. The system had potential

[tim333]

I know. Look at those graphics in Chaotix - the Genesis couldn't do anything like that on its own. It was pretty damn impressive stuff for the time.

[lordofduct]

And yet despite the large phallic shaped objects being rammed where the sun don't shine.

We stay SEGA fans to the end.

It is kinda strange don't you think... we are the kinda friend thelma and louise would want, that and corporate pig dogs!

I love you SEGA! (this may have been fescitious, but I really do love SEGA)

[Chikinware]

Ok, I've put about an hour into the game already. I don't like the level selection and team mate selection scheme. Its supposed to be random, though it feels like you can control it somewhat. Besides I prefer the linear level style of the sonic series.

But in regards to game play, I feel its a tad on the easy side, but overall quite a bit of fun. Even by myself, I feel the controls are tight, the levels are beautiful, and the music is great.

i don't see why so many people hated on this game when it was released. I suppose expectations are the cause? Maybe people siimply don't like change. I like the ruberband system, it adds an interesting dimension to platform gameplay.
I agree. If nothing else the new idea should be heralded because even then there were many generic platformers that offered nothing new or innovative as far as gameplay.

[Vorty]

Blasphemy! Chaotix is a brilliant game. Plus, you stole my avatar!

[Chikinware]

Blasphemy! Chaotix is a brilliant game. Plus, you stole my avatar!
That's what I said!

No need for insults!

Melf

[Elusive]

The 32X was a perfectly acceptable system - it was messily neutered by Sega in favour of the Saturn (which was then ironically neutered to make way for the Dreamcast).

Chaotix was disliked for the same reasons as Shadow the Hedgehog today - it was a former side character getting his own game. Oh noes, we can't have that etc.

[j_factor]

I don't see how 32x was an "acceptible" system. What was the point of it? To make your Genesis more powerful but less so than the next-gen consoles? Why? I mean, Sega CD had a point, and that point was the CD-ROM format. 32x gives you a step-up in power that you don't need for anything. It served absolutely no real necessity as a Sega system, intended only as a "holdover" for American consumers waiting on the new consoles, which is just a stupid idea.

[ary incorparated]

Mommy what are those two animals doing sticked to eachother,its almost the same thing like mommy and daddy made ehhhm Erm yeah hmm thats a good qeustion,lets talk about that a other time shall we.No for Show knucles ghaotix was Fun only very very short,and sometimes boring but still a stand out esspecialy for its fun music and colourfull graphics.32X could have been much better Damn sega why didnt you push the system for what it was instead of just lett it fall in to nothingless.Theyve could have beaten the snes that way,The system was supperior to snes and could have sett its competition against it.Oke the 3DO was also in sales then But that one wasnt that fine either,but also hadnt that much of a name and the price tag was extreme. :roll:

[ary incorparated]

hmm J factor youre a bit right,it well it was the battle between the snes and megadrive,Why didnt sega pulled the suppirior with vectorman to beat the snes,They could do it veccie 1 did it if you ask me.veccie 2 was lesser but a veccie 3 and that sort of graphic stunts would have been better,if sega was focusing Fully on MD than they wouldn wasted time instead.Veccie had come out and sega sels against DK country instead of losing money,maybe they,d improve DK country,s in selling whit Veccie 3 and that kind of stuff.oke there was Batman and robin that had the graphics,But mist the gameplay.That atleast was a step in the right direction.

[Alvatron]

The best thing about Chaotix was that it was something different from the other Sonic games. It's a nice change of pace from the other Sonic games. I still enjoy it to this day, It may not have been the greatest game in the history of gaming, but at least it was something different. It's a shame it wasn't as well received as it should have been.

[ary incorparated]

its a great game together with some other titles,For me it made the 32x join his brothers,i connected it on my multimega.Ive made a console of brothers,Megadrive,megacd and 32x(toad)hey thats why the 32x was less loved,he looked like toad.he was the trator in the genesis family.No the console could have potential.Knuckles ghaotix is disrespected by some Gamers,its a really fun game and then some gamers comes to see your games and sees the 32x and he lookes at the old megadrive shinobi and knuckles ghaotix and says why the hell are you playing such crap,he see shinobi 3 and says yuck awefull,just to be cool in front of the others,and then where going to drink a pitcher bear and then he says i have to be home by 11.WTF what a Dull boy he dont know what hes talking about.BTW you still have some of those "friends" who come over to youre place just to nagg about how dated shinobi is and WTF your playing 32x for,i just say if everybody has their own taste,WTF is youre problem then with having no decent live and just go sit an discust thing and letting hear what you mean,most of the time have a fight whit those and i have to win from them.

[Vorty]

what?

[Alvatron]

Ummm...well, I can't say I've ever had that problem Ary. Most of my friends that come over like playing the old Sega. We still play 4-player NBA Jam and Madden quite a bit.

[ary incorparated]

Ummm...well, I can't say I've ever had that problem Ary. Most of my friends that come over like playing the old Sega. We still play 4-player NBA Jam and Madden quite a bit.

thats cool Alvator i do that to sometimes,but its hard to collect,Drag my and set em" in front of a genesis,they wandering,what do have to do,Play DAmn come on and they say,Im going back to 360 this is way to difficult to understand,haha exually this is kind of a iseu and start a big discussion hey look at those polygone characters in virtua fighter and they say,i bett kage maru can hold a beer on his head polygon ,,,a i bet not ,,,i bett so and that goes on.no friends of mine play clasical stuff. :D

[Alvatron]

Ummm... So your friends aren't much into retrogaming, are they Ary? Too bad, Mortal Kombat II, NBA Jam TE, Virtua Racing , and Virtua Fighter got most of my friends hooked on the 32X and retrogaming.

[Obviously]

I don't see how 32x was an "acceptible" system. What was the point of it? To make your Genesis more powerful but less so than the next-gen consoles? Why? I mean, Sega CD had a point, and that point was the CD-ROM format. 32x gives you a step-up in power that you don't need for anything. It served absolutely no real necessity as a Sega system, intended only as a "holdover" for American consumers waiting on the new consoles, which is just a stupid idea.

I agree, especially when you consider the dollars that Sega must have sunk into producing the 32X and the lackluster sales figure that it gave them. Though it's got a few gems on it like Chaotix and probably the best console port of Doom until the Playstation releases, the idea of the 32X itself is still idiotic and I even knew that back in the day when I was a young Sega fanatic who wasn't dumb enough to purchase it.

Although several years later I ended up buying it for collector's sake at a flea market for ten bucks with a copy of NBA Jam Tournament Edition included. I love flea markets.

[ary incorparated]

The console could have left with its gamers(probably a few)It could convert arcade games very fine but dint do that that much,sore.Sega blewed it of,sega was doing way to much in a small amoant of time,sega was doing useless things,sega had the taste of doing things fast and be ahead of game technologie each and everytime,sega burried their own grave.they had a 32 x but also did realease a nomad,to be ahead of time so trhe 32x gained some comments because of the minimum releases of games,it kept that way because sega also whas putting money in a nomad and other things,they already where working on saturn,well it was released that time,sega was stressing cause the Nomad didnt went wel also the 32x they just leaved the 32x in thge shadow of the Flopfabrick and finally the system reached that,Compenie,s saw potential in it,it could have get a lot of nice arcade ports like darkstalker,it could have made sega upp to date instead of bittering about that situation,they could have handled it good if they just floated with the time like others,the saturn was decent in the start but sega but expensive,sega also was still dealing with their high cost flops,so they where standing backed to the staturn they saw what they must do with that console in response to PSX but to late sony was already ahead and most people buyed psx instead of saturn,so the saturn also was a - in cost,so sega ended upp doing with a lot of suffocation and los,detrey.sega was lost a bit and the admitted it and the saturn was blew of very quick so could think about beenig Toip of gaming technologie aggian so they released Dreamcast with a small left account of money,Sega Arcade was always running so money came from that also.beeng shenmue as durest project sega lost way to much money the game was developed at high costs so sled at for high costs,Sega had become very unfamilliar and payed their price,the Dreamcast went down gravewards and sega was bankrupt.Sega just was going to fast and blew it a bit for succeses Mega cd had good games kind of enough to name,32x ends with 3 good ones which is pore.

[Genesis Knight]

Is this game worth 15 US?

[Drixxel]

Do you mean in terms of entertainment value or common going rate?
Doesn't really matter which.. the answer to both is "yes."

Is it complete? ..and have you played Chaotix before? It's an acquired taste of a game.

[Joe Redifer]

It's worth $15 just from a collector's point of view, especially complete. How many 32X games are there altogether? Less than 40? And that's counting the CDs!

[ary incorparated]

It is worth it when you have a 32x(duh) probably the only game with splendid graphics and nothing much wrong exept the concept maybe,depends on taste,Ill say buy it,it doesnt play difficult and is fun enough for that price plus its a bit rare. :D

[Flash1087]

The 32X was a perfectly acceptable system - it was messily neutered by Sega in favour of the Saturn (which was then ironically neutered to make way for the Dreamcast).

Chaotix was disliked for the same reasons as Shadow the Hedgehog today - it was a former side character getting his own game. Oh noes, we can't have that etc.

Shadow the Hedgehog is a VERY BAD GAME. That probably had more to do with it.

I don't remember Chaotix's reception in the media, but I always adored it.

[Melf]

I'm pretty sure I read that the press had mixed feelings about Chaotix. Some loved it, and some hated it with a passion.

I'd say that $15 is a great price. It's been going for upwards of $40 complete on eBay.

[Obviously]

It's worth 15, but I'd never pay 40 for it.

I've actually brought Knuckles Chaotix up in conversation once and my friends thought the game was only a myth up until then.

[Genesis Knight]

A used game shop around here has it for $15, and I can use a coupon to get it for $10. No, I've never played it before, and I doubt it's complete. Probably has a box only. I'm an open-minded gamer, though, and I love Sonic.

Still worth it?

[Flash1087]

I'd go for it. I paid full price (well...my parents did) and I thought it was very enjoyable.

[Genesis Knight]

All righty, then. I shall buy it.

*EDIT* I uh...'tried out'...several 32X games. Shadow Squadron really impressed me, and Star Wars looks fun. Kolibri is...boring. Chaotix is really, really slow. Or is it just me? And Virtua Fighter seems like a good game, but has to be played on the actual console with an actual controller to be appreciated. Tempo was psychedelic to say the least.

[Flash1087]

Don't like Chaotix? Now I feel bad. :(

Star Wars and Shadow Squadron are both pretty good, and Tempo's nice if you can get into it.

[David J.]

Star Wars Arcade is pretty good, but Shadow Squadron was better. Both are must owns.

Kolibri is like Ecco, if you like that, you'll love it. Long game I've been told, but I haven't got far.

Tempo is funky as you want to be! Virtua Fighter is a good port, but I'm holding out for a copy with a manual at the very least. And Zaxxon's Motherbase is a good shump.

[j_factor]

Tempo is funky as you want to be!

Hell yes. Tempo's in the house tonight!

[Drixxel]

All righty, then. I shall buy it.

*EDIT* I uh...'tried out'...several 32X games. Shadow Squadron really impressed me, and Star Wars looks fun. Kolibri is...boring. Chaotix is really, really slow. Or is it just me? And Virtua Fighter seems like a good game, but has to be played on the actual console with an actual controller to be appreciated. Tempo was psychedelic to say the least.

Does your Knuckles Chaotix "downloadable sampler" have a file name ending with "[A] [!]" ..? If that's the one, it one won't play up to speed on my emulator of choice, regardless of what the region is set at. If you want to get a better taste of Chaotix before you decide on the ol' purchase, I recommend spelunking about in sordid depths of the internet for another one o' those "free trials."

[Genesis Knight]

No, it was an [E][!]. It just seemed to take the characters FOREVER to accelerate. I'll assuredly get it anyway, though.

There are so few games and they're so cheap, why be picky? =P

[ary incorparated]

32X is like discovery in Enschede(a game store thats is to damn ill fated)like when im looking there for games i only find the crapiest outlets in the city,games like motocross for 32 NIX(niks is nothing is english)or some crappy merchandise.like starring at a bucket full of decent and over priced rare games,and thinking whch game you want but actually you better dont want one of em.Sta wars arcade was oke,bit on the bore side,stellar assault(never played it)could be good,only if its more speedy then star wars.Tempo is fun i like it and i have it for almost nothing so cant complain,VF good for the collection and bit for play so is VR zaxxon dnt get me started bit crap and slow eh.Knuckles chaotix Yesss actually some times a bit boring i have to admit but graphics are awesome almost psx,the 3d special stages and the colourfull graphics do it.Darxide i dont know whats all the commotion about this game its not that great only in the looks,if youlle survive playing it longer then one minute.the rest isnt worth mentioning.

[David J.]

No, it was an [E][!]. It just seemed to take the characters FOREVER to accelerate. I'll assuredly get it anyway, though.

There are so few games and they're so cheap, why be picky? =P

That was the PAL version so it runs at 50Hz, ie 50FPS.

[Genesis Knight]

1 /\m t3h n00b.

[Vorty]

People who don't like Chaotix are just plain ignorant.

[nik]

People who don't like Chaotix are just plain ignorant.

Thats not really fair, kind of locks you in for the ignorant award.

Some people just didn't like it, I myself gave it a shot a few times, it was a colorful game.. but really didn't have anything special to it.

[Rayek]

I can't really say that at that point in Sega's lifespan, for a dommed-to-fail console, they really needed 'experimental' titles like Chaotix. Because, Chaotix was an experiment, beleive it or not... What Sega needed was to release a game system with a gem, a solid game that everyone could enjoy, a game that was indesputably good. I, personally, love Chaotix, but I can definitely see why some people might not.

[Obviously]

People who don't like Chaotix are just plain ignorant.

I don't like Chaotix because I just don't find it very fun. I found the gameplay gimmicky, frusterating, and boring. I chalk it up with Sonic CD as overrated.

It was a nice try with some interesting ideas and good graphics but it just didn't all fit well together for me.

[Alvatron]

I broke this game out the other day for a friend of mine who had never played it. He's a big Sonic fan, but he just couldn't get into it. "Why can't I play with just one character?" He asked me.

I never really thought about it before, but it's a shame Sega didn't allow players to play with just one character instead of using the bungee gimmick. Would have been a nice option to include. Maybe more people would have liked it.

[o1s1n]

does anyone know how much a full pal copy of this game generally goes for on ebay? i'm looking into getting a copy, would just like to know a good limit to stop at! :D

[David J.]

Around 40£ if you truely want to spend that much for a game that's not worth that much.

[o1s1n]

40 pounds? hmmm...that would be about 60 euro. quite a bit more then i'd be willing to pay. ah well, looks like i'll just have to stick with the Sonic games on my Megadrive.

[jerzmob]

i was lucky to find a brand new sealed USA version for 25.00 USD total. it's still sealed and i wonder for how much that one will go for.

[16-bit pwnage]

I found Chaotix to be quite an enjoyable game, the fun in it is there are many combinations to try out in order to find one that fits you well. I've only played this on my emulator but my friend and I tried a 2-player game; I was Espio and he was Mighty, I can say that 2-player is much funner as it's not up to the player to jug the AI partner around as he is slower to react to your movements. I mean, with the Espio-Mighty combo, my buddy and I sped through the levels by going up the walls all the time as shortcuts.

[Leo Leonardo]

Yeah, Chaotix is much better than people think, cause of the gameplay.

Don't forget the awesome tunes that define Chaotix.

[NAE1000]

does anyone know how much a full pal copy of this game generally goes for on ebay? i'm looking into getting a copy, would just like to know a good limit to stop at! :D

i got one off of ebay for £10 cartridge only

[Vyse of Arcadia]

Yeah, Chaotix is much better than people think, cause of the gameplay.

Don't forget the awesome tunes that define Chaotix.

The tunes were indeed awesome, but one of the reasons I didn't like Chaotix that much was because of the gameplay. It seemed to me that altogether too many of the stages were just...bland and featureless. I just didn't like the overall level design.

[Elusive]

Chaotix, along with Sonic CD, is so surreal I can't help but like it. That said, good luck finding a PAL copy - for the European SEGA stronghold it's very difficult to find anything 32X in Blighty :shame:

[segasonic123]

are u ppl kidding me!
This game is far from fun in 2 players. My friend & me tried, we got tired of bouncing our characters around and crap. never touched it again. 1 player game is alright however.

[megadriveworld]

I love this game. One of the best things about it is its excellent music. Graphics are nice, and gameplay while at first seems a bit limited, you soon get used to it and it becomes fun.

[Vorty]

This game has horrible two player but it's pretty neat when it goes solo.

[evildragon]

this game is pretty funny..

the graphics in game are completely done on the Genesis.. the only thing the 32X even does, is the characters, the score, and the jump-on-boxes.. the rings and everything else are done on the Genesis VDP..

[Zebbe]

What about the bonus stages?

[evildragon]

What about the bonus stages?
the polygonal one: the characters, rings, polygonal tunnel, that's done on the 32X.. the background though (that looks like stars or something), that's done on the Genesis..

you can tell easily if you have a model 1 Genesis.. just connect a TV to the RF out, and hook up another TV to the 32X.. whatever you see on the RF TV, is the Genesis, whatever you DONT see on the RF TV, is the 32X

[Zebbe]

It's easier to just plug the A/V cable into the Mega Drive instead of the 32X. I'm still waiting for my Knuckles Chaotix which I won at eBay a few weeks ago.

[Joe Redifer]

The 32X also does the drum samples for the music and lots of scaling, etc for the intro.

[megadriveworld]

Yes, PWM for the drums.

[Necrocheese]

I'm afraid this thread is going to force me to finally buy a 32x.

[capi1010]

Nice music. The levels are too longs at times. So it can get boring. If they were shorter the game would rock.

[Elusive]

I can never get that damned fifth Chaos Ring :mad:

[Zebbe]

Me neither! Gaah, it's pissing me off!

[Zebbe]

Got it! One more left!

[Zebbe]

YEEEEEEEESSSSSS !!!!!!!11111101010101101010101010 Now I got the last one! Now I will see the good ending when I beat the game!

Undeadline, I salute you. You gave me two weeks of tears, sweat, pain and frustration. But it paid off in the end, raising my patience level by several hundred percent. The fact that I've completed these piss-poor bonus levels of Chaotix proves this theory right. Now I must lock in my brother with Undeadline for a month, as he barely handled playing the Lost Vikings' three first levels with me.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

Well done sir. I need to lock myself inside with undeadline for as long as it takes, because I love this game but have not beaten it yet. Ive had it forever too. Its definitly on my next game to beat list. I'll do pretty well, beat most of the first stages, but its one of them, either the cave or the haunted house, the boss always breaks my will. Then you have to start at the begining of the level. It just kills my stamina. I really wanna see whats after those first levels though. AAaargh!

[saxman]

I liked Chaotix. It's my favorite one of the Sonic series, along with Sonic CD. But more than anything, I probably liked the music. I love those tunes... very catchy!