Genesis games with best music

[Shinobi69]

I personally love the soundtrack for Altered Beast, It is quite varied and sets an imposing mood. Gauntlet 4 is quite good, composed by the brilliant Hitoshi Sakimoto (Radiant Silvergon, Final Fantasy Tactics). I also love the Thunder Force 2 soundtrack. What are some of your favorites?

[Obviously]

1. M.U.S.H.A. is my favorite Genesis soundtrack personally. It's just pure adrenaline all the way through.

2. The Sonic games all have some of the most memorable tracks in video game history.

3. Rocket Knight Adventures has incredible music. I remember having a hard time believing that my Genesis was actually producing it.

[Genesis Knight]

There's an article on this at S16 - The Legacy of the z80.

[Joe Redifer]

What? Gauntlet 4's music was composed by Hitoshi Sakimoto? There is too much melody to be him. Usually his music is somewhat meandering without any melodic structure. Can anyone confirm if that is true?

[Shinobi69]

What? Gauntlet 4's music was composed by Hitoshi Sakimoto? There is too much melody to be him. Usually his music is somewhat meandering without any melodic structure. Can anyone confirm if that is true?

http://www.cocoebiz.com/sakimoto/discography/index.shtml
http://www.mobygames.com/game/gauntlet-iv/credits

it's him, trust me, I'm a Sakimoto fanatic. And if you think his music is meandering without any melodic structure, you probably haven't heard enough of his work? His melodies in much of stuff is quite complex. His work was somewhat simple and more melodic in the 16 bit days, he got more complex in the 32 bit era.

[Kikoskia]

Gleylancer/Graylancer has some pretty nice music. But then again, I like some of the music from the Chaos Engine as well. :P

[Shinobi69]

Sakimoto did the soundtrack to Devilish also.

here is a link below with some songs from Final Fantasy XII which Sakimoto is doing. "Field Theme" , "Trailer Theme(Jump Fiesta)" and "Peace and War" in particular are awesome, and show that Sakimoto is back to doing epic work in the vein of Radiant Silvergun and Vagrant Story, a great sign after some of his recent stuff (although Stella Deus is god like).
http://smsamples.free.fr/ff12/

[j_factor]

Toejam & Earl (both), Contra Hard Corps, Comix Zone, The Ooze, Phantasy Star IV, Skitchin'. Then you got your Sonics, your Vectormen, your Streets of Rages, your Shinobies.

[Joe Redifer]

Vectorman(s)? I don't think so.

[Shinobi69]

Vectorman(s)? I don't think so.

I've always heard that the Vectorman music was good - i will download the soundtrack and take a listen. There is a Vectorman arranged album download here:
http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/717

[Obviously]

The Vectorman music is all right... I usually never notice it when playing though.

[danielscheil]

i love the TF 4 Sound it's great !

[Shinobi69]

just listened to most of the Vectorman 1 soundtrack, it's pretty good sounding techno/rave musci, considering it's being pumped out of a genesis!

[Shinobi69]

I'd say this is about the best sounding Genesis song(Japonesqe from Shinobi III), or one of the top ones. all the instruments sound clear and high quality, and there is a complete set of drums.

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/884/18

click on "click here"

[Alianger]

I also like the altered beast music alot. I'd recommend checking out alisia dragoon, golden axe, phantasy star 3-4, shining force 1-2, y's 3 and arcus odyssey's soundtracks, since they all have that medieval theme to them.

[Rammykun]

anything Yuzo Koshiro composed. Hands down, one of the greatest composers in gamming today and his work on the Shinobi games and the Streets of Rage games are proof.

[Shinobi69]

anything Yuzo Koshiro composed. Hands down, one of the greatest composers in gamming today and his work on the Shinobi games and the Streets of Rage games are proof.

True. unfortunately he only did one Shinobi game (The Revenge of Shinobi). Many people think he did Shinobi 3, but he didn't (though i like the Shinobi 3 soundtrack as much as the RoS soundtrack).

[Joe Redifer]

Yuzo also did the Game Gear Shinobi soundtracks as well as the Master System/Game Gear version of the original Sonic the Hedgehog.

[Shinobi69]

Yuzo also did the Game Gear Shinobi soundtracks as well as the Master System/Game Gear version of the original Sonic the Hedgehog.

true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinobi_series

Game Gear Shinobi was scored by Yuzo Koshiro and Motohiro Kawashima.

[Alianger]

Did he compose for any other genesis games?

[GeckoYamori]

Story of Thor. Excellent use of dynamics.

[Shinobi69]

Did he compose for any other genesis games?

He did all three Streets of Rage games, you can hear the similarites to Revenge of Shinobi.

[Joe Redifer]

I think he also did Slap Fight MD.

[Alianger]

Did he compose for any other genesis games?

He did all three Streets of Rage games, you can hear the similarites to Revenge of Shinobi.

I did read through the thread, but thanks anyway ;)

[j_factor]

He also worked on Eye of the Beholder for Sega CD.

[Genesis Knight]

Has someone mentioned Beyond Oasis/Story of Thor already?

[Joe Redifer]

I hope not!

[ary incorparated]

Okay here goes the great sounds that were brough in games for genesis.

Thunder force 4
Contra hard corps
Skitching
Sonic 3,and S&k
Ranger x
Battle mania 2
Batman and robin
Vectorman
Dynamite headdy
Shinobi
Shinobi 2
Shinobi 3
Story of thor
Musha

and way more,BTW some people can think of the sound cart what they wil but a few point,here

Likewhat game on snes has better eurosynth music,Techno then batman and robin or vectorman,Ranger x.Cant think of a snes title that pump beats so fast,Oohh yeah never heard games like S.O.R on snes

Second,heavy metal kind of games:on snes super overtop or top rally,dont know the name exact,Rock and roll racing.megadrive Thunderforce Skitching Ranger x Contra HC Musha etc etc etc,Since MD has a fm stereo sound and can use the psg(Ranger x),much rougher and harder like Thunderforce 4 sound a bit like some kind of Rammstein music(not a real comparissment)Skitching has pumping grunge with overloads of drum,ooh yeah Snes hasnt got road rash series,Road rash 3 sounds the best(in my uppinion)

orchestral,Obviously snes wins that one,but hey genesis offersdamn good quality sounds like in story of thor,Ranger x,And more but snes has more of them.Oooh yeah i remember in TmT tournament fighters for snes you can hear a metal band play synth bleeps and some orchestral music,at least far away from sounding metal,while trying.

point 3:portes or comparibel tiles
Dessert strike:Md sounds better
Demo man:MD sounds better
Rock and roll racing:snes sounds better
Aladin:md sounds better, etc fill it if you want,this exually proves that genesis has a nice sounding sound cart for its time,even a one worth listening,My friends still give Skitching and Thunderforce high rates because of its heavy metal music,Contra also is in their favor.One friend of my can ectually every song from thunderforce 4 on his guitar or with his band. :D

[Richied]

Its gotta be the Sonic games IMO.

[ary incorparated]

Half ways,Yes they sound good but there are other games,really pusihing the limit,like batman and robin etc,But sonic games are fine to listen to only a bit bleepy somehtimes so it wouldnt be fine if you have it on youre i pod or something,Sonic 2 has nice music.But the genesis offers composers quality and nothing else matters.Much games sound good an listenable. :D

[Chris Marsh]

I like the music for these games
Lightening Force
Super Hydlide
Shinobi III
Ranger X
Vapor Trail
Batman: The Video Game
Battletoads
Road Rash

I like the synthesized music of the Genesis better than the SNES.

[Joe Redifer]

I also like the ONE TUNE that is in Vapor Trail. Great sound quality. Midnight Resistance's music sounds better than the arcade version as well.

[Dartagnan1083]

Just to add some greats that went unmentioned;

Earnest Evans
Elemental Master
El Viento
Mega Turrican
Ys III

[ary incorparated]

Scrap el viento,to bleepy

Road rash 3,sind you remind it.
vapor trial sounds fine,having Top drum and Nice synth music,the game is nice also.Yeah thats right genny sounds better then snes,more fast paced music and that orchestral stuff that much,But i kinda dont like snes music,Earthworm jim level 5 music,Very,Very slow bas and just ugly compared to genny,Genesis can do anything atleast can try,Megadrive has more multi genre music then snes and ports sound better for that system,Demo man sounds fine on Gen but on snes its pain for the eares. :D Its just a piont genesis deserves.

[ary incorparated]

TF 4,dusts all the crimmed snes titles away.

[j_factor]

You know what game has cool music? ExoSquad.

[GeckoYamori]

Check out the music from an obscure game called The Hybrid Front, it's by the same guys who did Sonic CD. It's a weird japanese strategy game so it's basicly unplayable to us but you can get the VGM rip from http://project2612.org/

[ary incorparated]

Jee J factor is right exo squad is monster,it plays a bit dull but practice makes you enjoy the game.

[Demonic Weasel]

Shining Force... *hides in a corner*

[ary incorparated]

aaah no exo shit is crap

[Alianger]

Check out the music from an obscure game called The Hybrid Front, it's by the same guys who did Sonic CD. It's a weird japanese strategy game so it's basicly unplayable to us but you can get the VGM rip from http://project2612.org/

What's so weird about it? I found it to be very similar to Advance Wars and pretty much playable without any language skills.

[ary incorparated]

Yup cool.cool game BTW with some diffrent dialoges but playes okay and tunes some nice music.

[Joe Redifer]

Has anyone mentioned Socket (aka Time Dominator) yet? That game has some great music.

[j_factor]

Socket is pretty neat in general.

[ary incorparated]

Sock it,tjee wat a kind o rip from sonic and mario ehy and its kinda battle mania like,BTW anyone noticed those flying sockets and flying marios in one level from battle mania vintage,really neat meat.

[Joe Redifer]

Socket was good until your life became low, then it was ANNOYING LIKE NO OTHER!

[mish]

Sonic 2-Emeral Hill Zone. Sometimes I just load Sonic up to listen to that. It might be just because I was bombarded with the music from the first level a million times when I was a kid, but I love it and it makes me happy so screw you guys.

[Joe Redifer]

I will hereby consider myself screwed.

[ary incorparated]

Maybe comix zone,maybe a other title,I got a questio,bit off toppic but hell.Okay here comes what genesis game uses the best kind of guitar music,i think comix zone.Since gensis has a lot of games in that genre eh,comix zone Thunder force 4 contra HC etc.FM chip,which games uses it the best.

[MegaDrive20XX]

personally I would have to say

Street of Rage 2
CastleVania Bloodlines
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Contra Hard Corps
Rockman Mega World (Nice remixes imho)

[B - Mark]

My list of the best game soundtracks

- Sonic the Hedgehog series
- Phantasy Star IV
- Streets of Rage series: The Yuzo Koshiro´s music is very cool
- Fatal Fury: The Gesse´s theme is my favourite
- Fatal Fury 2:
- Samurai Shodown
- Golden Axe
- The Revenge of Shinobi: Yuzo Koshiro again

[Emerald Rocker]

I'd drop my money on:

- Valis (part 1)
- Heavy Nova
- El Viento
- Arcus Odyssey
- Shinobi 3

[ary incorparated]

I like the music for these games
Lightening Force
Super Hydlide
Shinobi III
Ranger X
Vapor Trail
Batman: The Video Game
Battletoads
Road Rash

I like the synthesized music of the Genesis better than the SNES.
Hell yeah,Thunder force and the rest stay un defeatable,no fanboyism but mostly people drag about the limitation that the genesis sound chip brings,they bring this Bulshit upp,its so untreu remember that the genesis can do 10 channels simultaineously inc fm channels.and snes 8.the drum is a con on the MD but the guitars and bass is pulling harder therefor.

[Alianger]

Rockman Mega World (Nice remixes imho)

I agree. That soundtrack is underrated.

[ary incorparated]

rockman=megaman willy wars ,Right?. i had that game but found it not great or special back then so i sold it for 5 euros and now is almost to damn rare,its still a nice game but i didnt really enjoyd cause i didnt give myself the time for that.

[Zebbe]

Yeah, the soundtrack for Mega Man: Wily Wars is great. Or the soundtracks, especially the ones from Mega Man 2 and 3, and the song of the water level in the Wily's Tower mini game.

[ary incorparated]

actually sounds like a fun game,but the music didnt really intrest me,bitsy like the nes versions only with typical genesis bleeps,maybe youre right but i just cant imagin that then,sorry.Ill hope i can buy it for a small price.

[ary incorparated]

is it me or can genesis do 12 channeld music.With the extra pcm,s our something,I read somwhere that mastersystem can do 9 is that treu?

[Shaiming Long]

I'm being somewhat crazy here joining just to have my little say in this post, but I found that the music in Alisia Dragoon to be pretty good.
I do agree with many of the other said games, but it seems that I'm the only one who really cared for the music in this game.
To get the best from it you'd have to play it as on some levels the music changes and I've never found a music download that includes the changes and the in game soundtest doesn't either.
I always had a soft spot for the old console music, I can remember Ultima IV, Phantasy Star 1, III and End of the Millenium's music to this day really well.
Well that be my say and I'll hopefully remember to check back here now I'm a member.

[Joe Redifer]

is it me or can genesis do 12 channeld music.With the extra pcm,s our something,I read somwhere that mastersystem can do 9 is that treu?
The Genesis has 10 channels:

6 FM
3 PSG
1 PCM

I believe all of them can do stereo, but only left or right at a time (or center/mono). That means if you hear different sounds coming from your left and right speakers at the same time, it is taking at least two channels to make those sounds.

Master System has 3 PSG channels.

[GeckoYamori]

1 FM channel has to be sacrificed for sample playback. And I'm pretty sure PSG had 4 channels.

[Germ]

Check out Battle Mania 2 for you metal heads out there. I reccommend you have a listen to a track named "Hachinaki Please" (don't let the name put you off, all the track names are silly) i definitly stopped and took notice of this one, it was one of those songs played between a round but you can get it in options menu.

[Joe Redifer]

Actually Gecko is right. One of the FM channels doubles as a PCM. There are 3 PSG channels and 1 noise channel (running water/crowd sounds/static, etc). Still that makes 10 channels.

[ary incorparated]

Yup one White noice channel(also used in former Mobiles)that makes a total of 10,i know some games that really use them

TF4
Batman and robin,Those games sound terrific,still this day i recorded the TF4 tracks and for you synth,Techno heads Batman and robin.Alisia draggon sound pretty harmonic pretty clean,very good game.Yup i know battle mania 2 i have the game,Hachichinki please or something nahh the game has good music but i found that tune to simple theres not much varaition ehy like a 10 sec intro that keeps going on,For me it sounded lesser and im a metal head,aldo i liked some other tracks.BTW which games do feature hearable 10 channelled music.

[GeckoYamori]

Actually Gecko is right. One of the FM channels doubles as a PCM. There are 3 PSG channels and 1 noise channel (running water/crowd sounds/static, etc). Still that makes 10 channels.

The noise channel could also be converted to a tone channel.

[ary incorparated]

Yeah but that channel is it for the character sound etc?,thus thats makes genesis 8 or 9 channeld aint it.

[djtwok]

My favs (also listening on my mp3 player to the music) are:
Shinobi Series, Sonic Series, Streets of Rage Series, Combat Cars.

[ary incorparated]

Combat casr,you guys know this classic from the dutch ""two unlimited" some music in combat cars sounds almost the same,fun game Drum and bass.If you record all the TF4 omakes with youre line in on youre mp3 plus offcourse the standart ones,they sound awsome without the game,while listening that its pumping trough youre ears,one minor if all the boss songs from TF had some good guitary solos in them,youlle be listening to the smae stuff as the real metal,when listening that i always keep wandering that it sounds so tight and pitched for just a genesis game,just speachless its just kick ass.But most of the games sound super but i need the game with it to like them,Also i like the music from saturn game okay its CD but games like fighting vipers,some nice pieces of metal.Since im am a real metal freak i like Those game,is fighters megamis worth a purchase?.

[djtwok]

Fighters megamix is a great game ! When going to music of other sega consoles i also love saturn (fighting vipers, nights, sonic) and gamegear (shinobi 1+2) and sega cd (spiderman, title song of road avenger).
In the good old times, sega tunes had a story to tell, not like now where i.e, @ sonic heroes the music is just "background" music.

[ary incorparated]

yeah that right,the songs where much deeper,like TF 4,shinobi 1 2 and 3,i Liked the sound of final fight cd also but nthing really outstanding.Now days it is all guilty that is metal and to be honest i dont like the music most of much to high and to much pushed,like you get some really childish guitar play with a synth solo,just crap.some songs from guilty gear are just damn badd(as in awesome).I liked the one metalish tune in dynamite headdy,that breaks youre ears open whil tuning those bleeps down.Ive bought MR bones(jangle) for the saturn,radiant silvbergun and fighters megamix,im just damn happy with that,i love sega ways more then what next gen console or ps2,GC,Dreamcast has the arcade games like crazi taxi okay grphics arent as good as those on ps2,but i think they hae more valeu and the effort you can see,like shenmue jet set radio.Nowdays many people become graphic whores in dutch,they laugh about shinobi 3 without playing.But like my friend he hates those game like shinobi 3 also,but comix zone shuts his trap,and he hates KI obviously that fake lookbox effect game that runs like shit.BTW to get back the the picture,are there some other games on saturn,mega cd that rwach the Grungy metal sceme of fighting vipers?

[Demonic Weasel]

Shining Force.

[ary incorparated]

Shining force,on saturn ahh oke ill remenber that one,are there some genesis RPG,s that use metal tunes somethimes,with rpg,s you never can expect what is coming in music.

[videolamer]

I second Shining Force. The constant snare drum gave the game a very cool battle march feel. And the Circus Tent music? Best song ever.

[ary incorparated]

shinig force 2?,hey i must by that title once,i still love those funny tunes form megaman willy wars too.MP# is the best way to record yess.is mister bones a good game for those who are into guitar and stuff,biy riffy stuff etc,or is it plain boring with boring and slow guitar play.

[DrunkHeadbanger]

-Most of Renovation titles (GRANADA!!, Whip Rush, Gaiares)

-Thunder Force IV boss battle tracks owns!

-MUSHA Fullmetal fighter yeah!!!!

-Contra Hard Corps

-Sonic and Knuckles has the best music of all the sonics (Flying Battery zone and the boss tracks!!!) The way Sonic 3 is blending Sonic and Knuckles music when put together is actually quite cool too.

-Comix Zone

[j_factor]

I didn't like how Sonic & Knuckles changed the Act 1 Boss music. That tune in Sonic 3 was so cool. "Come on!"

[ary incorparated]

i loved both games no probe with the european version.Headbanger you named all the full metall fighters on MD and those are what i had in mind except for the renovation ones i havent heard em yet.

[Joe Redifer]

Whip Rush is a Sega-programmed game that got a US release by Renovation.

[ary incorparated]

I played granada seriously i like it a bit not much but a bit maybe some day more,Yess the Drum is kicking hard aldo the genesis has a lack of drum always noticed and please Headbanger dont compare it to the likes of musha or Thunder it just isnt the smae core musha and Tf have guitarsih sounds and not the plain synth stuff its not negative music only not in the same pace as those two,its more like sonic then like a metall kind of game,one think i know for shure ill bett that Ulrich did the drum work without those metal things(plates)dont know how they name em in english.

[ary incorparated]

still its what i call a nice game Granada but i think youlle better can set the excuse that its mastersystem instead of genesis,still i like the game a bit some day more its not a bad one as i preffered before its a graphically ill one but graphics dont make the total show so gameplay does it and the music is okay.

[nik]

Streets of Rage always had it for me, Thunder Force was good as well..

And for some odd reason, I liked "Risky Woods"

[ary incorparated]

yeah thats a fun game risky woods nice style.

[ary incorparated]

BtW NIK which streets of rage game did you like best and which on e for its music,i like 1 and 2,the first boss fight in SOR sounds great also some other sounds are okay,2 i liked most one of the last levels where you have a elevator and robots to fight aggainst,one of the best track ever heard on a console.Streets of rage 3 had some okay sound i better prefer Bare knuckle 3,the presidents office song and the urban kindo street song where at the end of the level youlle fight shiva first time.and the street with the motorcycles etc,that guitar kindo solo is damn good with some presure bass and drum under it,great SOR 3 isnt abominabel in sound,thats just sceptic overall its a bit lesser when trying to push to much for whats asked.

[Rayek]

Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles...

Because, of course, Michael Jackson did all that (maybe not Sonic and Knuckles).

[daminmancejin2]

rolling thunter 3:water level

i love that music its awsome!!!

[ary incorparated]

yeah rolling thunder 3 has Bad movie bad drums bad fearry etc.

[CRV]

Whip Rush is a VIC Tokai-programmed game that got a US release by Renovation.

Fixed.

[GeckoYamori]

Because, of course, Michael Jackson did all that (maybe not Sonic and Knuckles).

Or his producers, rather.

[Joe Redifer]

Fixed.
And how did you come by this information? If they programmed it, then they received absolutely no credit anywhere in the game. Link please.

[CRV]

And how did you come by this information? If they programmed it, then they received absolutely no credit anywhere in the game. Link please.

http://review-site.net/developer/hi.html#ビック東海

Third-to-last game listed.

I also looked at the credits here (http://park21.wakwak.com/~suka/sega/staff/f3_md/whiprush.html) and compared them to other VIC Tokai games.

[Joe Redifer]

Looks like they also made Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure or whatever it was called? That would explain both that game and Whip Rush having the same sound library.

So in effect Vic Tokai programmed Decapattack starring Chuck D. Head. Did Vic Tokai also do Psycho Fox for the Master System?

[CRV]

Looks like they also made Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure or whatever it was called? That would explain both that game and Whip Rush having the same sound library.

I don't take sound into consideration so much with these two. "Seriinu" (who did WR) also did Cadash and Saint Sword for Taito. The latter sounds a lot like Whip Rush.


So in effect Vic Tokai programmed Decapattack starring Chuck D. Head. Did Vic Tokai also do Psycho Fox for the Master System?

If you compare Decap Attack and Trouble Shooter, you'll see they use the same font for text.

And yes, VIC Tokai did do Psycho Fox (and Kid Kool before that). But interestingly enough, a magazine scan was posted over at SMS Power with an early shot of the title screen. The game was copyrighted to a company called "Aimo."

http://www.smspower.org/misc/psychofox-aimo.jpg

Thanks to Bock for that. My VIC Tokai investigative thread:
http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7110

[ary incorparated]

BTW whats the best music track compilation in a game on any sega,in my ternt which games is awsome metallized.

[ary incorparated]

Whip rush is a bit slow i think.and that special naah its a fun game nothing more.

[gaMEthuselah]

The game's been mentioned quite a few times before in thread alone, but it's a human thing to have your say about it regardless, if anything to have it out of your system...

... Rocket Knight Adventures.

I can't help but being poetical about it. There's something to its tunes that invoke a sense of brilliance to me. The compositions are creative, yet they fit their genres perfectly, playful, and seamlessly complementing to the game's overall lightheartedness. I guess it's something in the tunes that give me a sense of euphoria when listening to it; it almost makes me yearn to grab back to the times gone by.

But enough moping.

I'm glad to have it in my library and I'm sure to listen to it on a regular base. It sure beats listening to the next angel-voiced pop singer or emo punkband.

gMt - æ

Edit: make that "mentioned once". Guess I slipped up somewhere.

[Joe Redifer]

I think Rocket Knight Adventures was Michiru Yamane's first game score.

[ary incorparated]

Yess great game to mention.worthwhile with great and melodic tunes,pe4rsonally i liked sparkster too theres also one on the snes that one sounds really orchestarl and isnt as good as both on genesis cause of the nice graphs whichsoetimes been moffeled into something to just make the overall look slicker like nice water etc nice clouds and in some level youlle gettthe crapiest clouds ever seen on a 16 bit console,and its not as quick to play.here a example aggain fun factor+gameplay+speed beats just the nice picture.

[ary incorparated]

no i hate rolling thunder fr its but ugly and then alreaddy dated graphics but it has some nice music ive got to hand that to ya.

[gaMEthuselah]

On Joe Redifer's reply...

... According to MobyGames.com, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fall Of The Foot Clan for the Game Boy was Michiru Yamane's first "sound based" contribution. However, RKA's music was her first score on the Genesis.

gMt - æ

[Joe Redifer]

I think Rocket Knight Adventures was Michiru Yamane's first game score.
I don't think that anymore.

[ary incorparated]

Mirchiru Yamana,a chick,or farway not.who has a picture to get my lazy gamered stuff moving,or is it a old one by now.

[Joe Redifer]

Huh? Yes, Michiru Yamane is a female.

[ary incorparated]

theres the diffrence between a chick and a women eh.but is she barable,Japanese kentucki chick or something worth looking.ahh never mind internet is on my lef hand,the right ones to nusy erm typing or somthing.nooooh serious just kidiing im not that kind of picture horner.

[ary incorparated]

never mind,far way no lust for the eye of the ary.bit old,maybe teehless but yes makes hell of a music score,maybe if she touched my gentle snare then,ewh no yuck not this old woman.bit to much for my 20 years.

[ary incorparated]

never minbd that was the altered side o me.now im trying to be sreious aggain.

[Germ]

Check out these game music remixes:

Streets_of_Rage_3_Good_Ending(BlazeTheSirenMix)_OC _ReMix
Sonic_3_Bonus_Retreat_OC_ReMix

http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00246/
http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00923/

Not bad considering I listen to alot of "rave" music.

[Melf]

Ok, I finally got around to DLing and converting the Gauntlet IV soundtrack, and I must say that it's absolutely amazing. It has a very dark Terminator/Conan-type feel to it, and the overall quality of the compositions is excellent. Moreover, it sounds quite different from most Genesis music in terms of the sound used, which gives it a pretty distinctive feel.

My only complaint is that there's a lot of filler music, like for between stages and such. The actual stage themes are godly though. Highly recommended.

[Joe Redifer]

Ummmm... weren't you the one who reviewed Gauntlet IV a few weeks ago? Did you play the game with the sound off and only now hear the music? Does your Genesis audio not work? I am understandebly confused.

[GeckoYamori]

Gauntlet 4 is already available on Project2612:
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=284

Along with the rest of Hitoshi's soundtracks:
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=330
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=52
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=165
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=150
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=182
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=142
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=48

[Melf]

Yeah, but you still need to convert them to burn on CD. That was my problem.


Ummmm... weren't you the one who reviewed Gauntlet IV a few weeks ago? Did you play the game with the sound off and only now hear the music? Does your Genesis audio not work? I am understandebly confused.

Listening it to it while you play or in the sound test isn't the same has listening to it on CD in your car. I got a much better feel and appreciation for it after I burned it to CD.

[Elusive]

I don't think that anymore.

Hmm? I'd love to hear more of her work, Rocket Knight Adventures is definitely OST-worthy.

It's a shame my hard drive crashed and burnt a few months ago, I was in the middle of creating a massive fanpage. God vomits in my cereal once again, I suppose.

And on the topic of game music 'on the go', you can't go wrong with a Streets of Rage 1 & 2 mix CD. Blow out your speakers with 1's bass, turn up the treble for the first level of 2. Huzzah.

[Joe Redifer]

Listening it to it while you play or in the sound test isn't the same has listening to it on CD in your car. I got a much better feel and appreciation for it after I burned it to CD.
But you still have to pay attention to the road and not kill people (including yourself) so you can't fully appreciate it like you can in a sound test. Game music is designed for games. If you can't appreciate it while playing, you cannot fully experience the game.

[Obviously]

I don't know, I like good driving music as well. It keeps me awake and alert. Without good tunes playing I can get susceptible to highway hypnosis very quickly.

But yeah... I don't understand why you would appreciate music outside of the game but not in the game. It's usually the other way around for me.

[j_factor]

I'd think the Contra Hard Corps soundtrack would provide for good driving music.

Or good ecstasy music.

[Joe Redifer]

I'm not saying music in the car is bad at all. In fact there is some music I can listen to in the car but not passively at home. I have several custom MiniDiscs to listen to in the car.

[idunno10]

the vectorman music is very coolio.

[sega fan]

my favorite tracks are...

sonic 3d blast
credits
green grove
rusty ruins
special stage
main movie theme

streets of rage
stage 1
stage 2
stage 3
stage 4

street fighter : champ ed.
guile's stage
ryu's stage
title screen

sonic 1
green hill
star light
final zone
special stage

if you want to hear yours and my favorite tracks click the link for genesis music

http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/

[oneupthextraman]

ICE CAP ZONE! ICE CAP ZONE! ICE CAP ZONE! ICE CAP ZONE!

[Joe Redifer]

Cliché.

[ary incorparated]

No www.VGmusic.com is cliche crappy midis worth nothing.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

I always enjoyed the music in the Phantasy Star series, especially II and IV, as well as Shining Force II's soundtrack. Good stuff.

I also love the music in the Ecco the Dolphin games...on any system. It's always been ambient, often dark and moody, but always good to sit back and listen to.

Of course, the Sonic games go without saying. Perhaps not the best music around, but worth it for the memories alone.

I also really like Ristar's music, which can only be described as fun.

[Novaka]

I still find myself humming Sonic tunes when i play....


Shining Forces music was also quite memorible but it did get anoying


Annnnnnnd Toe Jam & Earl: Panic on funkatron's music is still some of my favorites

[ary incorparated]

I like the music from many rock kind of genesis games,maybe cause im AryGuitary.

[ary incorparated]

why can GBA do gekido with great sound while having barely channels and certainly not the best channels just 4 FM and 2 adited but the guitar sounds real dunno how but cant a genesis pull of this kind of trick.

[ary incorparated]

I played metal slug 5 today That game sounds hell awesome for a cartridge game,holy crap nice guitar and synt tunes how they did it id dont know compare it to most neo geo aes games it shines at the top of the mountain,while KOF 200 and others are trying to reach that with rusty guitar and ugly sound,metal slug 5 and 3 was also good in that department,they show how it has to be done and many KOF game diont have that sorely no nice guitar or orchestral music while these are the aiming game the top games,and then a lesser matrimelee gives DEBU ,s song,must hear and ROTD also good music,i liked the aes music to step appart from the genesis music,i scared me enough when hearing genesis in action and reaching the core of many neo geo aes games and even surpassing it in music like with the guitar then i can tell the guitar of TF4 sounds better the KOF2000 so thats a reason,yes neo geo is a beast in music 15 channels 1,5 megadrive LOL if you see it that way.

[Joe Redifer]

The music in Metal Slug 4 and 5 is recorded as one big digitized sample, the same way you'd record a voice, only much longer. That's why the music in those games is in mono.

[ary incorparated]

aha that simple same as gekido for advance 30 sec recorded sample,genesis can do it.and aes got the channels to sample it,still metal slug 5 sounds awesome.

[ary incorparated]

can the genesis do the same as metal slug 5,some neo geo AES games sound very ugly who agrees like metal slug 2 and some more KOf 2000 a bit no big problem but it isnt the pretyest music for a 16 bit console tough it has 15 channels but it just isnt snes or genesis al the time,therefor i recall snes and genesis averagly above it i think the composior is better sonic 2 owns any neo geo AES game that way except for the digitized thing DEBU dont forget to listen to that one ones great fun stuf only too average game groove on fight seems better to me dunno really if its that good.Matrimelee coming soon on ps2 for a bargin price maybe fun,or hopefully on the wii.

[HolyBloody16Bitter]

i don't wan't to play that crap games from SNK on a PS2. The games all look the same!

[ary incorparated]

yes the 100 and more figthing games yes they bore at the time and arent impressive anymore,king of fighters 200 and the rest is the same stus,you play it show it and then its all over and not impressive,still fun games.Then their comes games like bleach on DS hell yeah not one second and the enmy is in youre face.BTW neo geo had great graphics but was to weak to handle damn transpirancies to make 2D games look bit realistic instead of just flikker images,my faforite KOF game kof 2002 and 2000,i played the so called great last blade last time it bored the hell out of me,i prefer many snes,genesis games above this so do my friends they like the old school memories of the sega,those games are better yessir,at least snk could have added a save mode in the snk games for extras but noo they didnt,Metal slug games are okay many of the same but metal slug 3 is great and SNK isnt that worse they make hell of animation,but yes the crap on the ps2,please slowdown in consistance there is slowdown,loading times and more lagging stuff that says ps2 sucks like somethimes the resolution is to blurry characters to small missing animations in MOTw,CRap machine please handle 2D decently,same for Psx saturn owned that system if it comes to 2D and 3d yess somethimes,psx looks blurry and somethimes more bucky and bulkyer polygons,while saturn use garoud shading or something to make stuff look bigger and better compared to,tekken 3 came in 98 and VF2 was vest until 98 for its graphics nice big sprites and no blocks,same build up as DC which i somethimes prefer more then psx or ps2,DC ownes ps2 in my world,ps2 gor no sony self made games cause they cant fix what sega can.

[HolyBloody16Bitter]

wwooooowww, too much lines. It's very interesting. But can't you put dots at the end of your line ^^, then it's greater too read!

[ary incorparated]

and some faults i noticed.sorry for the info and the crappy english.

[HolyBloody16Bitter]

my pance is crappy. The Sound from my pance is ways better than a Atari!

[ary incorparated]

Dude.BTW the 2612 site has torrent how can i turn those trorents in to listenable music,can i convert em?.Ill gues i have to instal the VGZ plugin in winamp.

[ary incorparated]

The Genesis has 10 channels:

6 FM
3 PSG
1 PCM

I believe all of them can do stereo, but only left or right at a time (or center/mono). That means if you hear different sounds coming from your left and right speakers at the same time, it is taking at least two channels to make those sounds.

Master System has 3 PSG channels.

mastersystem also had an FM option as far as ive read,9 is bit optimistic nut i think it could do at least 4.The mastersystem isnt exacly in the megadrive megadrive is still kissing stuff to make a complete SMS.

[Baleog]

Sonic 2, 3 and S&K all had some great music. The original Sonic The Hedgehog, though...

Actually, some of the music was pretty good. I really like the music to the Scrap Brain (huh?) Zone a lot. But some of the other tunes...ugh! The music to the Labyrinth Zone makes me want to claw my eardrums out!

[NAE1000]

haven't checked all the pages of the topic for this, but a mate of mine pointed me here a while ago.......................... http://www.megadriver.com.br/

loads of genny music and street fighter 2 tunes done in heavy metal!!!

it really does rock!!

[16-bit]

I thought that the music from Revenge of Shinobi was great, the Sonic games have good music too.

[108 Stars]

haven't checked all the pages of the topic for this, but a mate of mine pointed me here a while ago.......................... http://www.megadriver.com.br/

loads of genny music and street fighter 2 tunes done in heavy metal!!!

it really does rock!!

Wow! The Sonic stage 1 music and the Ken theme are amazing!!!:rock:

I guess this is the right band for Ary Incorporated!:D

[3Dchris]

I like the soundrack to Streets of rage 2, Thunder force III, Altered Beast and Black Hole Assault (CD).

[ary incorparated]

Wow! The Sonic stage 1 music and the Ken theme are amazing!!!:rock:

I guess this is the right band for Ary Incorporated!:D

Thanx for reminding,i like it,it made me play the ken theme to and i do a good job in it also when i can record have to buy a Preamp once,then i just need my MInidisc and my Pc with programs to emulate it to one entire song,i also practised comix zone(kind of difficult at times) and all the bos tracks from TF inc Metal Force or something Track level 7 or 8 in the game,megadriver did it alsomand ill try contar hard corps and Musha someday im just playing a year by now and not 13 so ill have the long way still awaiting for me LOl,but Megadriver helps me,its an influence for me as all music,game music is a huge inspiration and metallica for me,i recieved the compliment i play with the same atitude as hetfield(What The Fuck) the dude doesnt mean that i know for shure,thats what i want to become but probably never can Lol.But i Like the megadriver stuf kind of i like some song the contra one was very good,im enjoying that,as long as Nino is enjoying it(is Nino a typical Brazilian Name its so common there el Nino Ill nino etc,).

[Baleog]

haven't checked all the pages of the topic for this, but a mate of mine pointed me here a while ago.......................... http://www.megadriver.com.br/

loads of genny music and street fighter 2 tunes done in heavy metal!!!

it really does rock!!

I nearly fell out of my chair listening to their version of the Alex Kidd music! Hilarious!

[NAE1000]

I nearly fell out of my chair listening to their version of the Alex Kidd music! Hilarious!

i was in tears laughing at some of this- it's just so gratuitous that it's good!!

was bummed by the altered beast track though- a friend of mine and i were gonna do our own cover of for our yet to be formed band- SEX HAMMER \\m//

[Henry Spencer]

Streets Of Rage. Earthworm Jim 2 - listen to the last three tracks and try to tell me they are not awesome.
Vectorman's soundtrack was very good. EWJ 1 had great music too.

[ary incorparated]

i was in tears laughing at some of this- it's just so gratuitous that it's good!!

was bummed by the altered beast track though- a friend of mine and i were gonna do our own cover of for our yet to be formed band- SEX HAMMER \\m//

Can i join LOL.

[3Dchris]

I think the music from Dark Wizard on Sega CD is great!! I'm listening to it right now and the themes throughout are brilliant. You really get the feeling that you are listening to "Music" instead of a synthesizer.

[Joe Redifer]

That probably has something to do with the fact that the music from Dark Wizard didn't come from a synthesizer, at least to my knowledge.

[ary incorparated]

More music for sega cd is made instrumental as i recall.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

I wonder, has anyone mentioned Ristar? That game had some fantastic music. Upbeat, catchy, it was an excellent soundtrack. My favorite from the game is probably "Ring Rink," the theme from the first ice stage place.

Say, does anyone know if Tomoko Sasaki did anything besides Ristar?

[Zebbe]

Feel the Magic XY/XX (2004), SEGA Corporation
Sonic Adventure 2 (2001), SEGA of America, Inc.
Sega Rally 2 Championship (1999), SEGA Corporation
Space Channel 5 (1999), SEGA Corporation
NiGHTS into Dreams... (1996), SEGA Enterprises Ltd.
Toonstruck (1996), Virgin Interactive Entertainment, Inc.
Ristar (1995), SEGA Corporation
Panic! (1993), Data East Corporation

[Joe Redifer]

Ristar has good music but doesn't it have voice samples included in the tunes? The problem with that is that the voices in that game are some of the poorest quality ever on the Genesis. They sound like a person gargling or something. The music becomes hard to listen to if these samples are embedded into the tunes themselves. The music would be much better without the broken voice. It's been awhile since I've played Ristar so my memory may be betraying me.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

Yeah, it does, but only in one song that I can think of. And it may not even be a voice sample. It kinda sounds like someone yelling, but who knows?

I, for one, love voice samples in Genesis music. What would Launch Base (Sonic 3) have been like without them? Sucky, that's what.

Then again, I've always had a thing for voice samples in music. Probably why I love Hideki Naganuma's stuff so much. And garbled voice samples have never really bothered me. I dunno why.

[Joe Redifer]

I'm all for good voice samples, but as I recall Ristar's just sounded bad. The first time I heard voice samples used effectively was in the bonus stages in Shadow Dancer. They sounded clean and non-gargly and it was pretty cool. I don't know why any games have to sound gargly.

[ary incorparated]

Yeah i know Go Go Go Yeah and then Joe falls down to destroy his enemies and how about mic and Mac’s Global Gladiator adventure that one had some good voice samples. But i agree with Vyse what’s the big problem with the voice samples they sound gargling same for story of thor, they aren’t disturbing, TI da du or something that was what the music was or something first i hated it then i began playing the game and actually liked it, the music has good Trumps and more it just sounds good without Joes say about it. How about streets of rage 1 boss theme Joe Uh or something you heard that,als in shadow dancer in the second stage or something you’ll hear a funky song with samples, I never heard complete songs come out the genesis complete with vocals and stuff, except for are you ready theme in Global Gladiators, I think they put the voice samples on the DAC channel or something, the psg channels are also capable of allot strange and different sounds.

[ary incorparated]

.How about the music in Terminator Great isnt it,i tried to do the main song on my guitar but wouldnt work in about a day and bit more practise.

[Mr Smith]

I can't believe this topic got onto page 9 before somebody mentioned Ecco the Dolphin.

[ary incorparated]

It was metionm several times i have to agree,but to be honest i find those games boring.

[XMARLTONX]

I hate to sound like a fanboy (which I am not) but I have to say Sonic. When Genesis game out it was a HUGE deal, and Sonic was the first game I really got into. Not to mention when you hear those songs, you don't only know its a Sonic game, you know its Sega. They're classic.

[GeckoYamori]

just listened to most of the Vectorman 1 soundtrack, it's pretty good sounding techno/rave musci, considering it's being pumped out of a genesis!

From a technical point of view it's no better than the average crap heard on the console. It's a far, far cry from anything by Koshiro or Jesper Kyd, or even Howard Drossin. On the other hand, the arranged album is excellent.

[Lan-Di]

The music in Shadow Dancer (stage 3-2) has a great sound to it.. Also, how about Viewpoint's, scratchy, 90's sounding samples? :)Here is a sample I put together for use with some of my releases

http://www.mediamax.com/landi2006/Hosted/1-Shadow_Dancer_cdda1.mp3

[megadriveworld]

All of these games have great music:


Streets of Rage 1, 2 and 3
Sonic the Hedgehog 1, 2 and 3
Knuckles' Chaotix
Batman

Thunder Force 3 and 4, not so much 3 to be honest, 4 has much nicer music.

OutRun - Yes, even the Genesis port has the classic arcade tunes, also sounding great on the YM2612 soundchip.

Bonanzo Bros
Wonder Boy III - Monster Lair

There's more of course, don't expect anyone to think of them all.

[j_factor]

You know what has good voice samples? Global Gladiators. In the opening song. In fact, that opening song made me like the game more.

[ary incorparated]

yeah that one sounded a a a are you ready awesome.

[Symos]

My personal favorite music comes from Sinic 3 and knuckles. Particularly the boss fights (Not fond of Sonic 3 stand alone act one boss music though.)

[metalliqaz]

Good:
Maximum Carnage
Contra Hard Corps

Bad:
Beyond Oasis

[Vyse of Arcadia]

My personal favorite music comes from Sinic 3 and knuckles. Particularly the boss fights (Not fond of Sonic 3 stand alone act one boss music though.)
I would agree, except I think Sonic 3's soundtrack was, on the whole, better than Sonic and Knuckles' soundtrack.

I may have mentioned this, but I actually prefered the Genesis Ecco soundtracks to the Ecco CD soundtracks. I really think they captured the overall feel and style of the game more.

[Knuckles-chaotix]

I cannot stress enough how good Gleylancer is! if i could get the soundtrack for it,,id play it to deth.
If your into metal then you will love gleylancer.

[Joe Redifer]

Gleylancer isn't metal. It's synth. Good synth, though.

[MaximusDread]

The only two Sega franchise that I can't stop playing. Sonic and SOR. All of the Sonic 1 songs are good. Sonic 2 were all good except the Casino Night 1-player version. Sonic 3 music was all good but the only good songs in S&K were Flying Battery and Sandpolis. SOR1 & 2 are the best VG soundtracks ever and SOR3 had some good one too; Stage 2 (streets and disco), Stage 3 Elevator, Stage 4 first part, and stage 7B (the stage you go to if you don't save the president/chief of police in time.) I really wished Bombergames would have made a remix of Stage 7B.

[metalliqaz]

I can't believe anyone could be capable of enjoying the Ecco soundtrack.
Listening to that game makes me want to murder dolphins with tuna nets.

-d

[stalepie]

I cannot stress enough how good Gleylancer is! if i could get the soundtrack for it,,id play it to deth.
If your into metal then you will love gleylancer.

Do you know about the emulated version in .vgm format? It's at Project 2612. Um, I ripped it. :)

[stalepie]

He also worked on Eye of the Beholder for Sega CD.

SUPPOSEDLY he did Crack Down in the arcade, which sounds close on the Genesis. AcidZero says this.

P.S. Beyond Oasis is one of the best game soundtracks of all time. Listen to it on headphones early in the morning.

[stalepie]

Some good ones I often don't hear mentioned are Langrisser II, Traysia, The Immortal, Light Crusader, Super Daisenryaku, Mystic Defender, Quackshot. Also Final Zone, Space Harrier II, Ys III (perhaps the best version is on the Genesis). Jewel Master is outstanding, the first stage of Midnight Resistance is beautiful. Let's see... uh, Phantasy Star II is a great one, so is Sword of Vermilion. There's so many. Oh, just thought of another. Sorcerian!

[stalepie]

oh, and Gain Ground! And Golden Axe!

sorry..

[stalepie]

shoot, has nobody mentioned Splatterhouse 2 and Strider? and Valis 3?

[Vyse of Arcadia]

I can't believe anyone could be capable of enjoying the Ecco soundtrack.
Listening to that game makes me want to murder dolphins with tuna nets.

-d
How can you not enjoy them? They fit the games perfectly, and are on the whole just moody and atmospheric enough for delightful listening outside of gameplay.

[Joe Redifer]

Stalepipe, please note the http://www.sega-16.com/forum/images/buttons/edit.gif button. That works much better than replying to yourself again and again. Ary also needs to take note of this fantastic space-age button.


Ys III (perhaps the best version is on the Genesis)
The best version is on the TG-16 CD/PC Engine CD by leaps and bounds. Ryo Yomenitsu for the win!

[j_factor]

Yes, the Turbo CD version of Ys III is definitely ace, however it should be noted that the Genesis version is still miles ahead of the crappy SNES port.

[stalepie]

Hmm, I found the PCE version slow and choppy, and don't really care for those arrangements. It sounds best on the Genesis, Famicom and PC88!

[Renegade466]

Best
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Streets of Rage 1
Streets of Rage 2
Wonderboy III Monster Lair
Super Fantasy Zone
Earthworm Jim 1
ToeJam & Earl 2
Batman
Road Rash 2
Lemmings
Revenge of Shinobi
Street Fighter 2
Sonic 2
Sonic 1
Sonic Spinball

Underrated but still great ones
Captain America & the Avengers
Chuck Rock II Son of Chuck
Kid Chameleon
Flashback
Zero Wing
X-Men
Rolo to the Rescue
Toy Story
Zany Golf
Mick & Mack Global Gladiators
Aladdin
TaleSpin
Dragon the Bruce Lee Story
Mickey Mania
Castle of Illusion
Super Hang On
James Pond
Robocop vs Terminator
Eternal Champions

[Mamba Tabac]

Yeah I love the way the music in Flashback just cuts in - very atmospheric.

I personally love the tune Splash Wave from Outrun - I know the Mega Drive rendition isn't that great, but I really like the actual tune.

Music by Yuzo Koshiro rules, as does most of the music in Thunder Force IV, as has already been said.

[havok666]

Two words,

GAIN GROUND.

[KenshiroX]

I like Truxton's music, and Adventures of Batman and Robin's.

[xbrinkx]

I lived on Truxton Dr...everyone on the street got a free copy of the game.

[Smii]

General rule:
Shmups have good music.
Platformers have bad music. (Exception = Sonic games.)

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

Lately I have been listening to toejam n earl 2 and battle mania vintage. I love the music screen in battle mania 2, they have little band guys playing the music, the drummer and the guitars rock out really hard its hilarious.

[JFLY]

Currently, my favorite Gen/MD tunes are from Verytex (stages 1 & 2 BGMs especially). What hurts this game even more (besides the banal gameplay) is that this game doesn't even have a sound test or option menu to listen to these sweet tunes.

[TmEE]

Platformers have bad music. (Exception = Sonic games.)

More exceptions : Ristar and Socket

[17daysolderthannes]

has anyone mentioned midnight resistance yet? that's the best music on the Genesis, bar none.

[JFLY]

has anyone mentioned midnight resistance yet? that's the best music on the Genesis, bar none.It's one of my favorites! Another game without a sound test in the options menu...

[Aarzak]

I lived on Truxton Dr...everyone on the street got a free copy of the game.

What the? Explain!

[esb09]

Ristar is the game you show to the Genesis doubters about the sound chip. At least with regards to the music. Yeah, the sound samples are bad, but the music makes up for it and more. The music in Ristar just plain kicks ass for that kind of game.

[Shadow360]

1.Sonic Games
2.Toejam and Earl
And there you have it.

[Collision Cat]

The problem with Altered Beast's music is that the backing beat cuts out whenever a sound effect plays.

[parallaxscroll]

I can't believe Sword of Vermilion has only been mentioned once in this thread. It's got some of the best music of any Genesis game, IMHO.

'Last City' is my absolute favorite track. The ending tune is great too.

http://project2612.org/details.php?id=180

[TmEE]

I played SoV only to hear that song !!! Well, since I'm that far, I should beat the game...

[108 Stars]

I like the themes of Super Hydlide and D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun, although I do not like the games themselves much.

[Iron Lizard]

Sword of Vermilion does have an amazing soundtrack. Really it is the best part of the game.

[108 Stars]

I like the themes of Super Hydlide and D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun, although I do not like the games themselves much.

[Alianger]

Agreed on SoV, it was way ahead of other early titles in terms of music quality.

Been listening mostly to Master of Monsters, Light Crusader and Hybrid Front recently. Great stuff and the latter reminds me a bit of SoR.

[108 Stars]

Did I mention Super Hydlide and Warriors of the Eternal Sun?

[TmEE]

you did, and 3 times, which of 2 are same identical posts... I need to check out the games...

[Christuserloeser]

Best sound: Streets of Rage / Bare Knuckle (followed by Revenge of Shinobi)
Best compositions: Streets of Rage 3 / Bare Knuckle III (followed by Story of Thor)

...but there are sooo many great soundtracks on MD. :)

Phantasy Star, Shining Force, Golden Axe (especially GA3!), SEGA's Disney games, everything Tecnosoft made....

[Joe Redifer]

Streets of Rage 3 does not have any composition. It is often just the hitting of random keys and notes.

[Kollision]

Maybe he's into Fantômas, who knows...

[Smii]

Hey now, Fantomas can be good! SOR 3, however, just ends up making me agitated.

Different context I guess - games aren't the right place for "experimental" composition!

[Kollision]

I didn't mean to bash Fantômas, I love the band. Saw them live in São Paulo 2 years ago. Awwwwwwwesome!

As for SoR, i still prefer the songs of the 1st game. Homogeneous genious compositions throughout all stages, which is something that doesn't happen in SoR2, and is totally lacking in SoR3.

[Iron Lizard]

He used some program that just made random melodys, then picked which one he liked the most and stuck them togethier. Its in an interview. It might be one the one on this site.

[Noiman]

Some of my favourites are:

REVENGE OF SHINOBI
STREETS OF RAGE
SHADOW OF THE BEAST (creepy!)
EMPIRE OF STEEL (especially the 1st level!)
SONIC 3
STREET FIGHTER II (with Guile's stage being my favourite!)

[Smii]

I didn't mean to bash Fantômas, I love the band. Saw them live in São Paulo 2 years ago. Awwwwwwwesome!

Cool :) What kind of stuff did they play? (I like Mr Bungle as well!)

On topic, I found a MD platformer which had some good music - Squirrel King :) It only seems to have a few tracks but one of them's a blatant rip off of the old Donkey Kong music! In fact it's a good game over all - even if the "jumping up/across places in attempt to cheat death" levels are very annoying.

[Kollision]

Cool :) What kind of stuff did they play? (I like Mr Bungle as well!)[A bit off-topic here]
They played Rosemary's Baby, Cholo Charlie and some of the tracks from Suspended Animation. It was brief but really intense, with the bonus of wtf-is-this? faces all around from the people watching it.

From Mr. Bungle I got all the CDs, as well as FNM and Tomahawk. Ah, and let's not forget Peeping Tom. But my favorite project now is Tomahawk.

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For the thread, here are some of the my most loved MD tunes of all time:
- Streets of Rage - Stage 4
- Zero Wing - Stage 2 (Legrous) and Stage 5 (Submarine Tunnel)
- El Viento - Stage 5
- Jewel Master – Stage 1
- Curse - Stage 5
- Thunder Force 4 – Stage 8
- Darius II – Stage A
- Sonic the Hedgehog – Labyrinth Zone
- Alien 3 – Opening screen
- Verytex – Stage 1
- Burning Force – Stage 5
- After Burner II – Final Take Off, Red Out
- Out Run – Passing Breeze
- Subterrania – Stage 1
- Captain America and the Avengers – Stage 1

[Smii]

Off topic
Confused people and 'happy' music - a nice combination :) Rosemary's Baby's a good track but marred (imo) by the fact that the film really stinks! Suspended Animation's probably my favourite Fantomas album overall - (typical) eclectic craziness with samples of Pacman, Worms & Looney Tunes for good measure. And lots of Yoshitomo Nara art, which is also excellent... uh... I'll stop rambling now, sorry. Patton's fault!

On topic:
Just to make my original "platformers have bad music" post look even less thought out: another platformer with good music is Rocket Knight Adventures. My favourite's the level with the rising / falling lava, but honourable mention also goes to the airship level.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

For the time Rosmary's baby was excellent.

[Joe Redifer]

Rosemary's Baby was a kick ass platformer with great music by Shinji Hosoe

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[Grounder]

Golden Axe was pretty good.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

Rosemary's Baby was a kick ass platformer with great music by Shinji Hosoe

[/nonsense mode]

Lolz..Aaah man I left myself wide open for that. This guy is a kung fu master at pwning people. All newbs better protect their necks, Joe cancels out little pubes daily.

[Christuserloeser]

Streets of Rage 3 does not have any composition. It is often just the hitting of random keys and notes.

Well, ALL music is composed of "random keys and notes". :p

It's probably a matter of taste - Just like some prefer Classic over Jazz; or a painting of a landscape with a tree and a blue sky over other more abstract paintings.


Edit: Saying BK3 wouldn't have "any composition" is just wrong. I am aware of the "myth" that Koshiro said in interviews that he used a random noise generator to compose the music, but I doubt that people understand what that means. - It's not like this thing magically wrote the music for him.
He and Motohiro Kawashima (which wrote the other half of the BK3 OST, and did 1/3 of the BK2 music) developed and used a "auto music composition system" to give them the inspiration, the basic idea for the songs in BK3. The process of writing, arranging, mixing and producing the actual song which then ends up in the game and on the OST, is still the same like with every other piece of music. They just didn't need to rely on the same old boring melodies over and over again.
In the end, their approach probably made it even harder to come up with the finished song, but the result is unique and well worth the trouble.

Excerpt from the 2008 Interview here at Sega-16:
"I didn't care about the criticism because I make an effort to add "fresh air" to music whenever I work on my compositions. The sound of SOR3 was influenced especially by the hard techno that became popular under the early '90s club scene. For this kind of experimental and innovative sound, I programmed a so-called "auto music composition system" which generates musical scores automatically and quickly. Thanks to this system, you can generate some musical thought and sounds that you ordinarily never could imagine on your own. This method was very rare at the time, but recently it’s been becoming popular especially among techno/trance creators. They purposely use it to get unexpected and odd sounds.


Btw, I'd recommend to download a decent copy of the original ALCA OST (as those are recorded from the Yamaha sound board), or at least listen to the music via a MD1's headphone out - emulators or MD2s just won't do their work justice.



And yes, I love the stuff Mike Patton does.

[Joe Redifer]

Real music isn't random! SoR3 is like placing a keyboard in front of a rabid, blind monkey.

[Christuserloeser]

Well, you can do that, but it's got nothing to do with BK3's music.

[Kollision]

And yes, I love the stuff Mike Patton does.Good to know there's 3 of us here! :D

[Benjamin]

Good to know there's 3 of us here! :D

Four, though I'm apparently a "poser" since I think California is his best album.:p

[j_factor]

Four, though I'm apparently a "poser" since I think California is his best album.:p

Make that five, and I don't think there's anything wrong with appreciating California (the album, although the state is pretty awesome too). Although, I really like General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners, which seems underappreciated, even among his fans.

On topic, I don't understand why everyone bitches about the SoR3 soundtrack so much. Some of the tunes do suck, but a lot of it is excellent.

[Joe Redifer]

I wouldn't go so far as "excellent". Perhaps "tolerable" is a better word.

[Mr. Ksoft]

I think it all depends on your music tastes-- I really love SoR3's music as well but a lot of people disagree with me.

[Christuserloeser]

As I already mentioned, the compositions are among the best I've ever heard, but what I am not happy with would be the actual sound: Compare BK1 with BK2, and you will notice that the sound quality of BK2 is way below that of BK1, especially in terms of the bass. BK3 again has less depth to the bass, and the drums sound kinda sad compared to BK1. Just compare BK3's "Good Ending" with BK1's "The Street of Rage" !

I assume that it's because they needed more CPU power for the actual game than in BK1.

[TmEE]

Music is taken care of by Z80 in SoR I think.... no main CPU needed.. I guess Yuzo got a bit lazy then.... ?
Creating a real ugly sound out of perfectly good piano in FM is just the matter of changing 1 parameter...

[Christuserloeser]

The piano isn't the problem at all. The drums and bass however are...

[Grounder]

Zero Tolerance is awful.

[Joe Redifer]

The percussion is much better in SoR2 than it is in SoR1. The general quality of part 2 is also much higher, especially the stereo imaging. There are no bass parts in SoR2 like there were in part 1 where it just hits amazing lows, but that is really SoR2's only drawback... aside from the crappy stage 2 bridge music.

I think SoR2 uses the 68000 for the sound.

[Christuserloeser]

When listening to the OSTs, I am using the ALCA OSTs which contain recordings straight from the Yamaha sound board, and my own recordings which I did with an early Genesis model 1. I can hear a huge difference in the drum sounds from BK1 to BK2 to BK3.

One track in BK2 which uses a deep bass is the fantastic "Alien Power". In BK3 that would be "Moon" or "Beat Ambience".

And yes, those tracks sound awful if using an emulator or an unmodded MD/G model 2.




I think SoR2 uses the 68000 for the sound.

I am not sure. Julian Eggebrecht of Factor 5 (Mega Turrican) said that BK1 uses the M68k for the sound and that this causes the slowdowns in the game - I doubt there's a way to prove if that is actually the case.

For BK2 I think they needed every bit of CPU they could get to get the game working - which would explain why BK3 with its much bigger sprites does again introduce a decrease in sound quality.
And the sound quality of the Ending theme in BK2 does seem to be higher than that of the rest of the game, btw... - That, however, is not the case with BK3 at all, although it basically just plays "The Street of Rage" from BK1 during the credits.

[TmEE]

how instrument sounds is not related to if the CPU that wrote them to YM2612 is 68K or Z80... its what parameters there are in an instrument. A typical YM2612 instrument consists of (9*4)+4 parameters, that's 40, and changing just 1 can change the sound quite much nad makes creation of instruments a pain in the ass. Bass instruments are very easy to do... I have no idea why many songs in many games use some high pitch slap bass...

[Christuserloeser]

...because every North-American game uses that godawful GEMS sound engine:
http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Mega_Drive/Genesis_Sound_Engine_List

- Thank you, SOA. >_<

[Joe Redifer]

OK it was SoR1 that used the 68000. I knew one of the trio did.

[TmEE]

Sonic1 uses same sound engine as SoR1. Almost 200 games used GEMS... and majority of them sound poor :/

[Christuserloeser]

GEMS is sooooo horrible! I don't think I have that many games I like that use this sound engine.... looks through the list... Seems Kid Chameleon might be the only game I like that uses GEMS.



Sonic1 uses same sound engine as SoR1.

...and from what I remember, Koshiro did the SMS/GG versions of Sonic.

[TmEE]

he did

[j_factor]

Not every GEMS game has poor audio. Just most of them. I mean, Comix Zone, Vectorman, and Panic on Funkotron sound great IMO.

[TmEE]

Comix Zone is only good sounding one of the listed...

[Christuserloeser]

I mean, Comix Zone, Vectorman, and Panic on Funkotron sound great IMO.

You're right, they actually don't sound as bad as the other games but I wonder how much better they'd sound if a decent sound engine would have been used.

[Joe Redifer]

Comix Zone is only good sounding one of the listed...
I think I agree with this.

[Grounder]

Comix Zone had a weird feel to it.

[j_factor]

Your face had a weird feel to it.

[Grounder]

Your face had a weird feel to it.
God, a few months ago you said you can put a mother on a single chip.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

Really?.. Cause Ive been looking for a way to do that.

[Grounder]

Really?.. Cause Ive been looking for a way to do that.
He never said how.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

This thread is now closed

[dragonboy]

Or is it?

[Collision Cat]

Let's all put aside our differences and rock out to Road Rash.

[TmEE]

Road Rashes have many great tunes, but quite some shit too

[Christuserloeser]

...because every North-American game uses that godawful GEMS sound engine:
http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Mega_Drive/Genesis_Sound_Engine_List

...or uses a sound driver based on GEMS.

Let's have a look: Which sound drivers do the following games use ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyF7LB_nd9w



Slip on a pair of earplugs and enjoy this selection of tunes for the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive.

Featuring:

Bubsy in Claws Encounters of the Furred Kind
Evander Holyfield's "Real Deal" Boxing
James Bond The Duel
A Dinosaur's Tale
Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf
Ball Jacks
Bass Masters Classic
Beast Wrestler
B.O.B.
Bimini Run
Cosmic Spacehead
Championship Pool
Crystal's Pony Tale
Darwin 4081
David Robinson's Supreme Court
Flicky
Hurricanes
The Incredible Hulk
NFL Sports Talk Football
Shaq Fu
Road Rash
Rambo III
Mazin Saga
Race Drivin'