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ShinobiMan
05-19-2009, 04:50 PM
I was playing Pulseman recently, when I realized that it was such a shame that it was never released in the states. I loved playing it on the Sega Channel back in the day, but was never so lucky to own a copy. Same goes for Golden Axe 3. Sega of America had their head up their ass in 1994.

So what Mega Drive games do you feel should have had a US release?

Mega Man The Wily Wars also comes to mind.

TmEE
05-19-2009, 04:52 PM
if I'd be US person, I'd want Zero Wing and Alien Soldier

jesus.arnold
05-19-2009, 05:05 PM
Was Flink ever released in the US? that's an awesome game.

gamegenie
05-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Mega Man Wily Wars in cartridge form. I probably would have bought it back in the day as I became hooked to the cartoon series that was running back then.

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/M/Mega%20Man%209/Everything%20Else/Mega%20Man%20Week/Retrospective/img978--article_image.jpg

Baloo
05-19-2009, 05:17 PM
Zero Wing and Mega Man- Wily Wars.

And Darxide for 32x.

jesus.arnold
05-19-2009, 05:26 PM
For all intents and purposes it's no different living in the UK anyway, I know I've never seen a copy of Alien Soldier or Wily Wars in a shop in my entire life either, the only place you see those games is ridiculously priced auctions on Ebay.

Christuserloeser
05-19-2009, 05:39 PM
Golden Axe 3
Gleylancer
King Colossus
Langrisser 2
Phantasy Star 1
Pulseman
Twinkle Tale
Undeadline
Yu Yu Hakusho
Langrisser 2
Surging Aura
Maten Densetsu
Dragon Slayer 1 & 2
Fushigi no Umi no Nadia
Rent-A-Hero
Vixen 357
Dyna Bros 1 & 2
Hybrid Front
Bahamut Senki
Sailor Moon
High School Soccer feat. Kunio Kun
Magical Taruruuto-Kun
Dahna - Megami Tanjou
Puyo Puyo 2
Power Instinct
Panorama Cotton
Mamono Hunter Yohko
Pengo
Battle Mania 2
Blue Almanac / Star Odyssey

jesus.arnold
05-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Nobody mentioned Monster World IV yet?

Personally I think the two games that needed to be released outside of Japan the most where Monster World IV and Pulseman.

Christuserloeser
05-19-2009, 05:59 PM
Nobody mentioned Monster World IV yet?

Ooops! - I think I just died a little... God, how I hoped to see this one released when I read the import previews.

Jesse813
05-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Alien Soldier
Mega Man: The Wily Wars
Pulseman
Monster World IV
Langrisser II
Panorama Cotton
Undeadline
Super Fantasy Zone
Twinkle Tale
King Collusus

Da_Shocker
05-19-2009, 06:51 PM
Golden Axe 3 isn;t good at all.

But Bare Knuckle 3.

jerry coeurl
05-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Are there any good Japanese games that don't have a region lockout chip? Now that I've got my X'Eye, I'd like to take advantage of that larger slot.

Anyone know around what time they started adding those region lockouts?

ShinobiMan
05-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Mega Man Wily Wars in cartridge form. I probably would have bought it back in the day as I became hooked to the cartoon series that was running back then.

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/M/Mega%20Man%209/Everything%20Else/Mega%20Man%20Week/Retrospective/img978--article_image.jpg

This game never came out in the US. It received a release in Europe and Japan however.

That is some nice concept art for the "planned" US release.

Oh and I'm going to have to check out this Monster World IV. Never played it... love the series though. How did I miss this?

Da_Shocker
05-19-2009, 07:11 PM
YTF was Mega Man never released here anyways. I mean it was huge on Nintendo systems and it only made sense to bring it here.

The Coop
05-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Was Flink ever released in the US? that's an awesome game.

In the US, it was released for the Sega CD. It was released for the MegaDrive in the UK on cartridge, and it came out for the Amiga CD32 there as well. Not sure if it ever saw a release in Japan, or on the Mega CD.

jesus.arnold
05-19-2009, 07:19 PM
In the US, it was released for the Sega CD. It was released for the MegaDrive in the UK on cartridge, and it came out for the Amiga CD32 there as well. Not sure if it ever saw a release in Japan, or on the Mega CD.Is there many differences between the cartridge and CD version (apart from the given of course, better sound, worse load times)

Christuserloeser
05-19-2009, 07:24 PM
TOh and I'm going to have to check out this Monster World IV. Never played it... love the series though. How did I miss this?

There's an awesome English translation by NeoDemiforce which I'd recommend: http://romhacking.net/trans/77/



Golden Axe 3 isn;t good at all.

This clearly is the best game in the series but for some reason, no one likes it.


Personally I think that Golden Axe III is so much better than the first two games. I bought it back in 1993 when it came out and I can't understand why anyone would prefer the first two games.

About a year or two ago, though, I gave them another chance and I must say I know now why people love them so much, but I still can't understand why all the same people seem to hate GA3. It plays so much better, has fantastic animations and an incredible variety of moves, many entirely different routes to complete it, a phenomenal soundtrack, and it is a blast with two players.

The only thing that is not perfect would be the fact that some of the stage graphics look like they were drawn back in 1989 or 1990 instead of 1993, while others look extremely cool - like when you're riding that giant eagle!



My advice would be to grab a friend, plug the game into your console, choose Chronos (the panther, best character but weak magic) or Sarah (most balanced character, great against skeletons, best magic), and study the moves, specials, combos and team combos in versus mode (Duel) - and then beat the damn game!

Some graphics are not exactly great, but the detailed character sprites, the excellent music and some absolutely fantastic stages make up for it. I bought the game in 1993 right when it came out and have played it almost as many times as Streets of Rage 2. Although I agree that some stages are ugly (e.g. jungle, or the village), a few of the stages, most special effects and the huge character sprites were absolutely breathtaking back in the day. GA3 is a great two-player game with a lot to discover and an insane variety of moves. It's incredible what they've managed to pack into mere 8 Megs.

The Coop
05-19-2009, 07:36 PM
Is there many differences between the cartridge and CD version (apart from the given of course, better sound, worse load times)

I believe the games themselves are basically identical in terms of graphics, level count, etc. The main change (which GameFan applauded back in the day) was the addition of CD music.

gamegenie
05-19-2009, 07:39 PM
From what I read, Mega Man Wily Wars was released in the US but only as an electronic download through the Sega Channel.

Sega of America should have built their subscriber gaming service up to last longer if they were going to decide on releasing an exclusives as big Mega Man there. Now we have a gem lost forever thanks to the brilliant thinkers who new a cart release would be a mistake.

jerry coeurl
05-19-2009, 07:43 PM
Are there any good Japanese games that don't have a region lockout chip? Now that I've got my X'Eye, I'd like to take advantage of that larger slot.

Anyone know around what time they started adding those region lockouts?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

tomaitheous
05-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Dando!

Christuserloeser
05-19-2009, 07:46 PM
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7190

It started in 1992 with two games: Thunder Force IV and Bare Knuckle II. Most games released since 1993 are likely region locked.

The Coop
05-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Zero Wing, Super Fantasy Zone, Gley Lancer, Eliminate Down, Verytex, Twin Hawk and Undead Line come to mind.

Christuserloeser
05-19-2009, 07:49 PM
You can test them in Gens or Kega if you set the region to US and load the Japanese ROM.

jerry coeurl
05-19-2009, 07:49 PM
Oh, I played a ROM of Gley Lancer a while back and that seemed pretty sweet. Thanks!

e: ehhh maybe that one's a little out of my price range right now, but I'll have to look into the others

e2:
You can test them in Gens or Kega if you set the region to US and load the Japanese ROM.

That's actually brilliant. Thanks.

Black_Tiger
05-19-2009, 08:52 PM
Monster World IV
Super Fantasy Zone
Megaman Wily Wars
Dragon Slayer 1 & 2
Langrisser II
Cosmic Fantasy Stories
Panorama Cotton
Twinkle Tale
Sorcerian
Shin Megami Tensei
3 x 3 Eyes
Magical Hat no Buttobi Turbo! Daibouken
Darxide

Alianger
05-20-2009, 06:41 AM
Some of my favourite games for the console are Japan-only.

Panorama Cotton
Battle Mania Daiginjou (Trouble shooter sequel)
Monster World IV (Wonder Boy in Monster World sequel)
Langrisser II (Warsong sequel)
Yu Yu Hakusho: Mayou Toitsusen
Puyo Puyo 2
King Colossus
Eliminate Down
Twinkle Tale
Hybrid Front
Advanced Busterhawk Gleylancer
Doraemon Yume Dorobouto 7 Nin No Gozansu
Dodgeball Kuy Kid
High School Soccer feat. Kunio Kun (Nintendo World Cup basically)
Puzzle & Action: Tanto-R
Surging Aura
Dragon Slayer II
Lord Monarch
Vixen 357
Pulseman
Mamono Hunter Yohko
Pengo
Wani Wani World
Rent A Hero
Snow Bros

CD:
Shadowrun
Shin Megami Tensei


Also would've preferred the original versions of Contra: Hard
Corps, Bare Knuckle 3, Shining Force 2 and Dynamite Headdy.

Christuserloeser
05-20-2009, 08:32 AM
Also would've preferred the original versions of Contra: Hard Corps, Bare Knuckle 3, Shining Force 2 and Dynamite Headdy.

I agree but this is the first time I heard about changes to the Western versions of Shining Force 2. Got some more info ?

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 09:13 AM
Also would've preferred the original versions of Contra: Hard Corps, Bare Knuckle 3, Shining Force 2 and Dynamite Headdy.I'm probably in the minority here but I f#cking love the PAL version of Hard Corps, Robots ftw! :D

Alianger
05-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I agree but this is the first time I heard about changes to the Western versions of Shining Force 2. Got some more info ?

A handy little site called Shining Force Central has a guide to the game with info on this, but since it's spread out between many sections I'll try and sum it all up here:

*SPOILERS ahead!
* The ability to search (to open chests) during battle was removed, making some items unavailable even though the chests are still there in the game. One of these items is the Valkyrie, which you can only get from the blacksmith in the Western versions. According to the site, they had to remove it for the game to fit on cartridge. My guess is that English text requires more space than Japanese.
* In the Japanese version you can get the Goddess staff from the blacksmith (instead of having to beat a certain enemy later on using a character with no free item slots, which makes it available in shops if you choose "Deals")
* Other items were removed, such as the "Right of Hope" (fully restores everyones MP) and the Life Ring (regain 5HP per round).
* There are three cheat codes unique to the Japanese version, including a code to increase stats to 250, a code that reduces enemy spell damages, and another that lets you avoid all attacks in battle.
* There's one less Vigor Ball in the Japanese version (promotion item for Master Monk)

* This is just speculation, but I believe the game was poorly translated. It's fairly obvious in one particular scene, after the last battle before entering the "ancient aircraft". Two of the villains have turned against eachother here and they're having this conversation that doesn't make much sense.

Somebody ought to write an article on games that were altered like this :)


And as for Probotector, yeah I'll take those badass robots over a couple of generic muscle men any day. But at least they replaced those two with some slightly more interesting characters in Hard Corps and a lifebar is a bigger deal than a simple spriteswap!

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 03:25 PM
And as for Probotector, yeah I'll take those badass robots over a couple of generic muscle men any day. But at least they replaced those two with some slightly more interesting characters in Hard Corps and a lifebar is a bigger deal than a simple spriteswap!I think Hard Corps PAL (Probotector) is actually more difficult than the US version, I'm fairly sure you get one less continue in Probotector than Hard Corps. Also as far as the energy bar is concerned I think it'd make it way too easy, I breeze through the early levels without taking one hit at the moment so an energy bar would pretty much remove any kind of tension in the proceedings, The extra continue Americans got would've been a help though :mad:

Also another game that hasn't been mentioned is Addams Family Values which I'm pretty sure only came out for SNES in the US, I'm still kicking myself for not adding this to my 100 Mega Drive games list as really every good RPG/Adventure Mega Drive game should be in the list to represent seeing as there's the idea that the MD is weak in that particular genre and AFV is definately an above average game for it's time.

Christuserloeser
05-20-2009, 04:13 PM
Landstalker, Light Crusader, Story of Thor aka Beyond Oasis, Soleil aka Crusader of Centy, Monsterworld 4, Wonderboy in Monsterworld, Popful Mail, are all better than Addams Family Values, and unlike that are exclusive to the Mega Drive.

Regarding Probotector vs. Contra: Yeah, I tend to prefer the robots too, but I never knew that this game was supposed to have people instead of robots in the first place until I discovered emulation, so I guess I am biased. Either way, the Japanese version seems much more fun to me, especially with two players.

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 04:14 PM
Landstalker, Light Crusader, Story of Thor aka Beyond Oasis, Soleil aka Crusader of Centy, Monsterworld 4, Wonderboy in Monsterworld, Popful Mail, are all better than Addams Family Values, and unlike that are exclusive to the Mega Drive.Yup, which is why I thought Addams Family Values could happily sit into the 80-100 bracket.

Also Monster World 4 is pretty unplayable being all in Japanese (unless you speak Japanese of course, or are happy to download/steal hacked versions of the game off the net) and Popful Mail isn't a Mega Drive game, it's for the Mega CD and it's also not exclusive either

AD2101
05-20-2009, 05:15 PM
Pretty much just Gleylancer and Eliminate Down, because if I had a choice I'd rather buy them here than pay out the ass for a game that I doubt is that expensive if your locally shopping in Japan. Pulseman is *ok* and if Zero Wing came out in the US someone would have probably done something with the engrish.

Ghaleon
05-20-2009, 05:29 PM
Dangerous Seed: pretty good shmup, and you can never have too many of those, imo.

Milkymagic
05-20-2009, 05:34 PM
Lots of great games mentioned in this thread, I was especially excited to see all the fandom for Shining Force (particularly the second one), Streets of Rage and Popful Mail for the Sega CD.

If I had to choose some games? I'd go with Alien Soldier (SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE!) and Pulseman. I played those on the Sega Channel years ago, and I managed to buy the PS2 Treasure Box collection to get some Alien Soldier gameplay in (Treasure is my favorite developer, no doubt about it!).

As for my favorite Treasure games? Gunstar Heroes, Dynamite Headdy, Alien Soldier, Radiant Silvergun, Guardian Heroes, Sin and Punishment, and Bangai-o are major favorites I still enjoy to this day. OH YEAH! :D

jerry coeurl
05-20-2009, 05:42 PM
Pretty much just Gleylancer and Eliminate Down, because if I had a choice I'd rather buy them here than pay out the ass for a game that I doubt is that expensive if your locally shopping in Japan.

Seriously.

Jared
05-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Maui Mallard, I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. I own the SNES version, but I hear the Mega Drive version is better.

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 06:29 PM
Whilst talking about Contra, did any other Europeans here notice that Probotector III on SNES' robot artwork and in game pictures suck? it looks really rushed whereas Probotector's (MD) artwork is classy and looks like who ever was given the job of mucking about with the graphics took more of a pride in his work.

Black_Tiger
05-20-2009, 06:44 PM
Also would've preferred the original versions of Contra: Hard
Corps, Bare Knuckle 3, Shining Force 2 and Dynamite Headdy.

How about the full version of Shining Force 1?

17daysolderthannes
05-20-2009, 07:08 PM
I think Hard Corps PAL (Probotector) is actually more difficult than the US version, I'm fairly sure you get one less continue in Probotector than Hard Corps. Also as far as the energy bar is concerned I think it'd make it way too easy, I breeze through the early levels without taking one hit at the moment so an energy bar would pretty much remove any kind of tension in the proceedings, The extra continue Americans got would've been a help though :mad:

Also another game that hasn't been mentioned is Addams Family Values which I'm pretty sure only came out for SNES in the US, I'm still kicking myself for not adding this to my 100 Mega Drive games list as really every good RPG/Adventure Mega Drive game should be in the list to represent seeing as there's the idea that the MD is weak in that particular genre and AFV is definately an above average game for it's time.

Wow, I didn't know about the Japanese life bar! it makes this game SO much less frustrating! Now I can weenie my way through the game a couple times before tackling the US version.

Baloo
05-20-2009, 07:12 PM
Maui Mallard, I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. I own the SNES version, but I hear the Mega Drive version is better.

I'm not a big fan of Maui Mallard myself, I have it for SNES. It's story is odd, I just don't like the layout and storyline. Gameplay is so-so. Maui Mallard should've been like a ninja-esque game, not Donald Duck on a voodoo witch-hunt while on vacation.

bohokii
05-20-2009, 07:21 PM
body count cause i want another menasor game

the smurfs

psycho pinball(had to get a guy in england ship me one)

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 07:32 PM
I'm not a big fan of Maui Mallard myself, I have it for SNES. It's story is odd, I just don't like the layout and storyline. Gameplay is so-so. Maui Mallard should've been like a ninja-esque game, not Donald Duck on a voodoo witch-hunt while on vacation.Maui Mallard is alright on Genesis, it's trash on the SNES though.

Lorfarius
05-20-2009, 08:39 PM
and Popful Mail isn't a Mega Drive game, it's for the Mega CD and it's also not exclusive either

Well the only thing not exclusive about it is the name. Each system version is completely different to all the others with the Sega CD one being the best.

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 08:43 PM
I just ran into a forum post with a list of PAL games that didn't make it to America, jeez did you guys honestly not get a version of Worms on neither the MD or the SNES?! that was one of the most popular games of that whole time period in the UK. Other games the post mentions (dunno how accurate it is) along with the already mentioned ones -

Alien Soldier
Addams Family Values
Donald in Maui Mallard
Megaman Wily Wars
Zero Wing

are -

Flintstones - which is actually pretty good
Micro Machines 2, Micro Machines 96' and Micro Machines Military
Cannon Fodder
Mega SWIV - an update of Super SWIV (Firepower 2000) that's alright
Wonder Boy Dragon's Lair - which isn't really that good but is alright for killing some time
Second Samurai - This game is also alright, I kinda' like it on 2 player but many hate it.
Snake Rattle N' Roll - just the same as the NES version
Street Racer - This is actually a pretty good multiplayer racer
Super Fantasy Zone - Awesome
Mr Nutz - A bit iffy that one, but it's kinda alright if you find it for 50p somewhere :)

MrMatthews
05-20-2009, 09:26 PM
I was just thinking about Worms yesterday. I had to check our master list to confirm that it wasn't released in the states.

Odd that it would be released on nearly every other platform - I think even the Gameboy got a version!

streetsofrage
05-20-2009, 09:36 PM
i need to get gunstar hero's cib

17daysolderthannes
05-20-2009, 10:07 PM
I badly want Mega Man: The Wily Wars and Zero Wing, but fanboy bullshit hikes the price to ridiculous extremes. I'm kinda pissed at what Sega did with the Sega Channel, we missed out on some really good games thanks to that service. They should've released everything on cartridge too so people had a choice instead of having it lost forever.

jesus.arnold
05-20-2009, 10:29 PM
I badly want Mega Man: The Wily Wars and Zero Wing, but fanboy bullshit hikes the price to ridiculous extremes.The worst one is Wily Wars as it's not really even that good and you can buy all of the superior NES versions for substantially cheaper :?

The Coop
05-21-2009, 12:15 AM
jesus.arnold- Actually, you can buy the Euro versions of Super Fantasy Zone and Zero Wing without any problems. They have the same shape as the US carts, and they play fine on US systems (no lock outs, no weird timing issues, etc.). It may not be an official US release, but it's a close as it can be to one.

jesus.arnold
05-21-2009, 09:51 AM
jesus.arnold- Actually, you can buy the Euro versions of Super Fantasy Zone and Zero Wing without any problems. They have the same shape as the US carts, and they play fine on US systems (no lock outs, no weird timing issues, etc.). It may not be an official US release, but it's a close as it can be to one.Early Mega Drive games never had region protection between any of the 3 countries, and for the most part they all run correctly in 60hz, Japanese cartridges are just a different shape, if you cut the Mega Drive so that they'd fit, the older ones would boot up fine

Wonder Boy Monster Lair, Micro Machines 96' and the cartridge version of Flink are the same way, no region protection, work fine on 60hz.

The Coop
05-21-2009, 01:45 PM
Early Mega Drive games never had region protection between any of the 3 countries, and for the most part they all run correctly in 60hz, Japanese cartridges are just a different shape, if you cut the Mega Drive so that they'd fit, the older ones would boot up fine

Oh, I know about all that. I've got import games that do and don't need to be "unlocked" with a Game Genie, and I've read up on which imports can be played on a US Genesis (I wish Xenon 2: Megablast was one of them). I was just bringing up games that I've got personal experience with the PAL versions, and commenting about how some of the ones you listed all but got a US release.

bohokii
05-21-2009, 03:44 PM
the imports i have bought work fine on my non region mod machine

psycho pinball and street racer

pinball has a special cart kind of like the ea way smaller than the slot

and the street racer has the genesis shell so i guess many others just come in the genesis shell

i check games to make sure they don't have a lockout before buying

like the freakin smurfs and golden axe 3

is there a list of games that were not released in "the states" and are unlockouted

jesus.arnold
05-21-2009, 04:30 PM
is there a list of games that were not released in "the states" and are unlockoutedWell, these are the best PAL games not released in the US.

Alien Soldier - Region Protected
Addams Family Values - No Region Protection
Donald in Maui Mallard - Region Protected
Megaman Wily Wars - Region Protected
Zero Wing - No Region Protection
Flink (Cartridge) - No Region Protection
Micro Machines 96' - No Region Protection
Micro Machines Military - No Region Protection
Cannon Fodder - No Region Protection
Mega SWIV - Region Protected
Wonder Boy: Dragon's Lair - No region Protection
Second Samurai - No Region Protection
Snake Rattle N' Roll - No Region Protection
Street Racer - No Region Protection
Super Fantasy Zone - No Region Protection
Mr Nutz - No Region Protection

AD2101
05-21-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm kinda pissed at what Sega did with the Sega Channel, we missed out on some really good games thanks to that service. They should've released everything on cartridge too so people had a choice instead of having it lost forever.

I don't see it as we missed out on some of these games because of Sega Channel, but I believe that Sega was never going to release these games stateside regardless, so I just appreciate that they gave ANYONE here a chance to play it at all.

I mean what would you rather have, a great game that absolutely no one can play unless you go through the hassle of importing it, or a great game you can only play if you have a certain service? It might not have been the most accessible option in '94 or '95, but something is better than nothing to me.

Rusty Venture
05-21-2009, 05:50 PM
I'd rather Sega not released it at all if they were just going to make it so limited in its release.

Wesker
05-21-2009, 08:42 PM
Flintstones - which is actually pretty good

Guardiana actually lists an American release of this one, published by Taito.

jesus.arnold
05-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Guardiana actually lists an American release of this one, published by Taito.Yeah, I was searching for more info on that myself (I took the list of games from somewhere else) If there was a US release then it must of been very small as I've seen very little on a US version and very few instances of it on Ebay (and the only two I've seen over the last few months have both been a little dodgy sounding, ie cartridge only and mentions of "very faded" covers) whereas Ebay.co.uk has loads of copies of it.

Wesker
05-21-2009, 10:51 PM
The European version of The Flintstones was published by Sega Europe, so that should explain why the game has so much units released in our region. It even received a Classic re-release sometime after.

17daysolderthannes
05-21-2009, 11:09 PM
I'd rather Sega not released it at all if they were just going to make it so limited in its release.

I know, its like "too bad, you missed it!"

I wish they would release all of the Sega Channel-only games for PS2 or something instead of ANOTHER Sonic collection we don't need.

Baloo
05-21-2009, 11:11 PM
I'd rather Sega not released it at all if they were just going to make it so limited in its release.

I'd rather Wily Wars actually be commonly gotten through a monthly service rather than a cart form that's virtually unattainable, like Final Fight: Guy.

Rusty Venture
05-22-2009, 12:54 AM
I'd rather play an actual version of "Final Fight" than that fucking hack job that is "Final Fight:Guy".

"We took out Cody, and put Guy in his place!"

Nothing like getting railed up the ass by Capcom.

sketch
05-23-2009, 03:12 AM
Eliminate Down, no contest. Since Kega came to the Mac, I've been playing all the rare and import games I know I'll never be able to afford, and that one by far tops my list. It's one of the best shooters I've played, and possibly the best for the Genesis (I have to put in some more play time to give a final judgement on that though).

No WAY am I ever paying what it goes for on eBay....

B - Mark
05-26-2009, 09:01 PM
My list:
- Sonic Eraser
- Phantasy Star II Text Adventures
- Sailor Moon
- Yu Yu Hakusho Makyo Toitsusen
- Kujaku Ou 2
- Hokuto no Ken: Shin Seikimatsu Kyuseishu Densetsu
- Gleylancer
- Bare Knuckle III
- Mega Man: The Wily Wars
- Alien Soldier
- Pulseman
- Super Fantasy Zone
- Langrisser
- Puyo Puyo
- Puyo Puyo Tsu

B - Mark
05-26-2009, 09:04 PM
I'd rather Wily Wars actually be commonly gotten through a monthly service rather than a cart form that's virtually unattainable, like Final Fight: Guy.

I agree with you.

Unfortunately mega Man The Wily Wars is very hard to find.

About Final Fight Guy USA i had a doubt:

I´m Brazilian and i heard about a story this game is avaliable only for rental.

It´s true?

Aarzak
05-26-2009, 09:32 PM
Yeah, FFG was a Blockbuster rental-exclusive back in 1994. On the outside, the box art and text was directly from the Japanese version, and they even added a "From Japan" sticker to make it seem foreign. On the inside however, it was a regular U.S SNES cart and the game's content was censored as was the case with the original release of SNES FF1.

Somehow, somebody got their hands on a SEALED, retail version of U.S FFG that nobody thought existed. I saw a pic of it on Digital Press.

vintagegamecrazy
05-03-2011, 08:24 PM
Yeah, FF Guy is crazy rare to find. Never seen it in person myself and I've owned a lot of games in my days. Ottifants is also region locked which is not listed above. Snake Rattle N Roll is vastly improved over it's NES original so give it a try.

Olls
05-03-2011, 11:28 PM
Lucky for me I have a Mega Drive.
What exclusives does the Genesis have anyway? Did you guys get any worthwhile exclusives at all?

Zebbe
05-04-2011, 12:30 AM
Some good stuff not released in Europe:

Exile
Ys III
Warsong
Joe & Mac
Vectorman 2 (released in Brazil though)
Midnight Resistance
Granada (released in Brazil though)
Thunder Force III

Waterfaller
05-04-2011, 01:13 AM
Probably a lot of the RPGs mentioned in these articles here (http://www.sega-16.com/feature_page.php?id=2&title=Left%20in%20Japan:%20Mega%20Drive%20&%20Mega%20CD%20RPGs.php), here (http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2009/08/sega-genesis-megadrive-rpgs.html), and here (http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/genesis/2009/08/sega-genesis-megadrive-rpg-library-page-2.html), including:

Dragon Slayer I and II
King Colossus
Maten no Soumetsu (no idea, but it sounds really interesting)
Monster World IV
Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water (a grrreat anime btw)
Sorcerian
Surging Aura
Yu Yu Hakusho Gaiden (another great anime)

Olls
05-04-2011, 01:36 AM
Some good stuff not released in Europe:

Exile
Ys III
Warsong
Joe & Mac
Vectorman 2 (released in Brazil though)
Midnight Resistance
Granada (released in Brazil though)
Thunder Force III

Hey, thanks.
What about Battletoads vs. Double Dragon? Is that a Gen exclusive?
I have seen several ads of the game in some old euro game mags, but the only ROM dump is the US version.

SegaMan89
05-04-2011, 12:37 PM
Yeah, I was searching for more info on that myself (I took the list of games from somewhere else) If there was a US release then it must of been very small as I've seen very little on a US version and very few instances of it on Ebay (and the only two I've seen over the last few months have both been a little dodgy sounding, ie cartridge only and mentions of "very faded" covers) whereas Ebay.co.uk has loads of copies of it.

I own a Genesis copy of The Flistones. The label is ripped badly and has tape on it but you can clearly see the Genesis logo on the cart. Wierd thing though I got it from Game Attic which rips people off HARD ($40 for Sonic 3 Cart Only REALLY!!!!!!) for only $14.95.

Zebbe
05-04-2011, 12:42 PM
Hey, thanks.
What about Battletoads vs. Double Dragon? Is that a Gen exclusive?
I have seen several ads of the game in some old euro game mags, but the only ROM dump is the US version.

Yes, but it was also released in Brazil. So America exclusive ;).

Mark Robert
05-05-2011, 10:33 AM
Was Flink ever released in the US? that's an awesome game.

I second that. It's a beautiful platformer with a very unique magic system for this genre.

Zebbe
05-05-2011, 11:42 AM
Only the CD version.

Christuserloeser
05-05-2011, 02:41 PM
Yeah, I heard the cartridge version's soundtrack is unbearable. I think it was Tiido who mentioned it.

Sega Genesis
05-05-2011, 03:42 PM
All of the shmups, puzzler's(mostly talking about the primitive style plattformers), and RPG's. Single notable games: Pulseman, Alien Soldier, Yu Yu Hakusho(both), and Duke Nukem 3D. For BK3, it would have been better if they left the game alone and just added some optional higher difficulty modes.

Zebbe
05-05-2011, 03:48 PM
For BK3, it would have been better if they left the game alone and just added some optional higher difficulty modes.

I'm not sure about that. What do you think, Christuserloeser? Isn't Streets of Rage 3 the best localization ever?