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chinitosoccer
06-10-2009, 03:00 AM
what sound card do i need in order to play Doom with this sound quality for Midi music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEECC3xoCVU&feature=PlayList&p=EF4D143C3DCFCD6C&index=0
I miss my old Roland SCC-1, i want it back!:cry:
Yamaha YMF71x based card under Win9x or 3.1 with original Yamaha drivers, that's what I use and there's no going anywhere else for me ;)
Silanda
06-10-2009, 06:41 AM
Yamaha YMF71x based card under Win9x or 3.1 with original Yamaha drivers, that's what I use and there's no going anywhere else for me ;)
Do those have wavetable MIDI?
stalepie
06-10-2009, 07:15 AM
You may want to try Chocolate Doom (http://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Chocolate_Doom). I remember good sound in that.
Do those have wavetable MIDI?
Most cards have hardware wavetable omitted, but with Yamaha's original drivers, it is emulated in software (extremely great sounding, and ultr@ lightweight). I'll do some recordings when I get home.
chinitosoccer
06-10-2009, 03:12 PM
I'll do some recordings when I get home.
Could you please make some recordings from doom? and how those Yamaha YMF71x cards compares to the Sound Blaster Live platinum 5.1?
Could you please make some recordings from doom? and how those Yamaha YMF71x cards compares to the Sound Blaster Live platinum 5.1?
I can get recordings done on saturn (I won't get home any earlier).
As for SB comparsion, the sound quality of the Yamaha is highly superior, but since that card is well over 10 years old, its not as featured with gimmicks, and its an ISA card so you will not be able to put it into any too new PC.
chinitosoccer
06-12-2009, 12:04 AM
What about this one here, its pci though..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-100-Yamaha-XG-Sound-Card-YMF744B-PCI-AW744_W0QQitemZ320382901742QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4a984f1dee&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
it will work, but the MIDI synth is quite different (and some sounds aren't as good IMO :P). You will still need Win9x for it and original Yamaha drivers, XP and 2K drivers disable all of the cards functionality. Only thing remaining would be sound quality... and that's actually card dependant as well since Yamaha only made the chips, they did not make the sound cards themselves... tomorrow is recordings time :)
djtwok
06-12-2009, 07:36 AM
Shoudnt it work with dosbox and gm emu enabled ?
The MIDI synth, OPL3 chip and other fun in that card will still remain disabled....
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/4/21/1876835/YMF71x.rar
here's some oooold recordings from various games. all noise comes from a SB16 line-in....
chinitosoccer
06-15-2009, 02:12 PM
Definitely sounds a lot better than my sound card, but still the Roland MT-32 from the video on my first post sounds better, thats the sound im looking for...
kool kitty89
06-16-2009, 05:09 AM
Definitely sounds a lot better than my sound card, but still the Roland MT-32 from the video on my first post sounds better, thats the sound im looking for...
Huh, I didn't know Doom supported the MT-32, my DOS shareware version lists several soundcards as well as general midi (which will sound different depending on your hardware), but no roland.
what sound card do i need in order to play Doom with this sound quality for Midi music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEECC3xoCVU&feature=PlayList&p=EF4D143C3DCFCD6C&index=0
I miss my old Roland SCC-1, i want it back!:cry:
The midi from my PC's onboard audio is rather poor by comparison, or jus bland, though perfectly acceptable, very similar to the version included in the Xbox version of Doom 3. (though I actully like the sound from the old FM synth Soundblaster rendition)
This one, however, sounds better IMO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
And the 360 port is awful sounding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRzyvLHuplg
On my PC it sounds a lot like the XBOX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofdtXKNdZd4
chinitosoccer
06-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Huh, I didn't know Doom supported the MT-32, my DOS shareware version lists several soundcards as well as general midi (which will sound different depending on your hardware), but no roland.
the Roland is not listed in Doom sound options, but is actually suported if you choose another card from the list, whatever that comes out from the midi port on the pc will sound good through the MT-32.
The midi from my PC's onboard audio is rather poor by comparison, or jus bland, though perfectly acceptable, very similar to the version included in the Xbox version of Doom 3. (though I actully like the sound from the old FM synth Soundblaster rendition)
This one, however, sounds better IMO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
And the 360 port is awful sounding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRzyvLHuplg
On my PC it sounds a lot like the XBOX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofdtXKNdZd4
The xbox sounds worst than my W98/Dos PC but still there's place for improvement, i.e. Tmee's sound card has better sound
kool kitty89
06-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Mine's just onboard sound as I mentioned. (NVIDIA nForce Audio) ANd it sounds a lot like the Xbox's.
I wonder what some of the other, originally intended cards sound like. (like the AWE32 and Gravis Ultrasound)
Is there any way to configure Doom (in Dosbox) to use a Roland emulator?
chinitosoccer
06-16-2009, 09:12 PM
Mine's just onboard sound as I mentioned. (NVIDIA nForce Audio) ANd it sounds a lot like the Xbox's.
I wonder what some of the other, originally intended cards sound like. (like the AWE32 and Gravis Ultrasound)
Is there any way to configure Doom (in Dosbox) to use a Roland emulator?
yes there is an "ilegal" emulator, but the roms from the MT-32 being property of Roland aren't emulated, (the refused to free their rights over the roms included in the MT-32 or something like that) the emulator just try to mimic the MT-32 sounds, but the final result is not the same IMO.
kool kitty89
06-19-2009, 05:23 AM
Dosbox natively makes a rough approximation through general midi when Roland is selected. But there's also an actual emulator for the MT-32/100 that's mentioned here: http://sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7531
Of course it requires other files to be added seperately, including sample data wich would technically be illegal as you mention.
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