Which are the best Dreamcast-games out there?

[nissling]

Recently, I bought a PAL-Dreamcast with some other Dreamcast-related stuff and about 14 complete games. Some of the games were Sonic Adventure 1-2, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Sega rally, Chu Chu Rocket, Daytona Usa, Jet Grind Radio, Crazy Taxi 2, Ecco: The Dolphin and some more. It costed me around 660 SEK, which is about 85 dollars. It felt like an ok deal.

Now, don't give me wrong, for over a year ago, I had a Dreamcast but I thougt it sucked. The reason for that was probebly becuse I didn't have any good games at all. The only good games I had was Sonic Adventure (1) and Dead Or Alive 2. Most of the rest was just sports games. I was a bit unlucky so I sold it, but for some months ago, a friend told me that Dreamcast was the best Sega-console ever made. Then I just said to myself "Ok, I think that I was wrong about the Dreamcast".

But now, when I finally got my hands on one with some good games, which are the other games that are worth checking out? Both of the Shenmue-games seems to be good and it looks like Power Stone is something for me. There's got to be some games for the Dreamcast that are worth owning. Which are they?

[Elusive]

Mr Driller and the original Crazy Taxi are brilliant party games: IIRC the first has a splitscreen multiplayer mode, and for Crazy Taxi you pass the controller and score attack.

[gamevet]

I wouldn't call the Dreamcast Sega's best console, but it's still a pretty good machine.

What kind of games do you like to play Nissling?

[Black_Tiger]

PSO
PSO ver2
Grandia 2
Virtua Fighter 3
Soul Calibur
Marvel VS Capcom
Marvel VS Capcom 2
Street Fighter 3
Skies of Arcadia

Dave Halverson loved Super Magnetic Neo.

[nissling]

What kind of games do you like to play Nissling?

Some of my favorites:

Snatcher
Final Fight CD
Resident Evil (1 + 2)
Golden Axe
Stellar Assault
The Sonic-series
Mortal Kombat
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 7
Silpheed
Street Fighter 2
Puzzle games
Contra

And some more.

[gamevet]

Some of my favorites:


Might I suggest:

Snatcher = Alone in the Dark ? (DC)
Final Fight CD = Zombies Revenge (DC)
Resident Evil (1 + 2) = Resident Evil : CV or Dino Crisis (DC)
Golden Axe = Dynamite Cop (DC)
Stellar Assault = Red Dog or Wild Metal(DC)
The Sonic-series = Rayman 2 (DC)
Mortal Kombat = Mortal Kombat Gold (DC)
Metal Gear Solid = Head Hunter is a mediocre try at this style of game (DC)
Final Fantasy 7 = Grandia II ? (DC)
Silpheed= Mars Matrix or GigaWing II(DC)
Street Fighter 2 = Street Fighter III: Double Impact or 3rd Strike (DC)
Puzzle games = Chu Chu Rocket or Bomberman Online
Contra = Cannon Spike ? (DC)

[Knuckle Duster]

Skies of Arcadia
House of the Dead 2
Maken X
Grandia
Grand Theft Auto 2
Record of Lodoss War
Sonic Adventure
Chu Chu Rocket
SoulCalibur
Crazy Taxi
Soul Reaver
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2

[Youngie]

Shenmue 1 & 2 are amazing.
Grandia 2 if you like RPG's.
Resident Evil: Code Veronica

[Christuserloeser]

Games I'd recommend:
REZ
shmups (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/index.php/Main/Shmups) - All of them!
all SNK / Capcom 2D games (KOF: Dream Match 99, SSF2X, Vampire Chronicle, Puzzle Fighter, Twinkle Star Sprites, etc. pp.)
Virtua Tennis, Power Stone & Power Stone 2, Daytona USA 2001 (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/index.php/Main/DaytonaUSA2001), Sega Rally 2, Bomberman Online, Mr. Driller, Puyo Puyo Fever, Bust-A-Move 4, Worms World Party



If you got an HDTV with VGA port, you should consider buying a Dreamcast VGA cable/adapter: http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=vga+box+dreamcast

[Devil N]

Ikaruga FFS!

[cj iwakura]

-Maken X
-Jet Grind Radio
-Shenmue
-Sonic Adventure 1 & 2
-Space Channel 5
-Resident Evil Code Veronica
-Grandia 2
-Rival Schools: Project Justice
-Gunbird 2
-Last Blade 2: Heart of the Samurai
-Capcom VS SNK
-King of Fighters Dreammatch '99(really '98 I think)

It's got a little of everything.

[jerry coeurl]

Out of the games I own, I would recommend:

Demolition Racer - No Exit (AWESOME destruction derby/racing game hybrid, tons of unlockables, it will keep you busy for months)
Seaman (not really a game, but still I have to recommend it, there's literally nothing else like it)
Tennis 2K2 (sequel to Virtua Tennis, with more content and a create-a-player mode, this game is like crack and all your friends will love it, seriously)
The Typing of the Dead (this is a blast, basically just typing tutor, skinned with House of the Dead 2, but it's hilarious and really the only reason to own a DC keyboard these days)
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram (pretty unique, I still want to get the twin sticks if I can ever find them for a decent price...)

I would have recommended Sonic Adventure, Chu Chu Rocket and Jet Grind Radio too if you didn't already have 'em. The first Crazy Taxi can be had fairly cheaply, that might be looking into if you like the sequel enough.

Personally, I would recommend you NOT get Phantasy Star Online/ver. 2, they just are not that fun to play with by yourself. It's just basically an endless grind for better equipment, and this type of gameplay really falters imo when you go at it alone. You technically can get your DC online with private servers, but it's kind of more trouble than it's worth.

[j_factor]

I thought Headhunter was excellent, not mediocre. Grandia II is also excellent, and the only turn-based RPG on the system worth a damn. Bangai-O is one of my favorite games ever. I also recommend Shadow Man and Toy Commander, two very underrated games.

[jerry coeurl]

Oh yeah, Grandia II is the shit. I actually like that one more than Skies of Arcadia (which I have admittedly only played on GameCube, and have also never finished). Bangai-O is awesome from what I have played, and it's a Treasure game on a Sega console so that should be a no-brainer for anyone who frequents this site.

[nissling]

Thanks you all, it seems like the Dreamcast has alot of great games.

[Tanegashima]

Powerstone is the SHIT

Rayman 2 (excellent 3d platformer)

Mars Matrix

Code Veronica

Hydrothunder

star lancer

street fighters

Last Blade 2

Sonic Adventures

[nissling]

I have to ask now, is Incoming a good game or not? It looks decent.

[gamevet]

I have to ask now, is Incoming a good game or not? It looks decent.

It's complete crap. It's also one of the few games that was programmed using Windows CE.

I had a DC that was having issues with the texture maps and the end result was funky colors and extremely grainy textures. The one game that looked right was Incoming and I don't know if it had to do with the way CE uses the memory buffers, or that the game was using some other technique to draw the polygon textures. Either way, the worst game I had in my collection, was the only one that would work. :(

[Knuckle Duster]

It's complete crap. It's also one of the few games that was programmed using Windows CE.

I had a DC that was having issues with the texture maps and the end result was funky colors and extremely grainy textures. The one game that looked right was Incoming and I don't know if it had to do with the way CE uses the memory buffers, or that the game was using some other technique to draw the polygon textures. Either way, the worst game I had in my collection, was the only one that would work. :(

I got that game for free, bundled with an OEM PC running windows 98SE, in 1999.

I thought it was 'shareware level' entertainment, and had to laugh when I seen it ported to consoles.

[Devil N]

Incoming was one of those showcase games for 3D accelerators, which were relatively new at the time. It looked pretty stellar at the time, but the rest of the game is as shallow as a petri dish.

By the way, if you like Street Fighter II, then you can't miss up on the arcade perfect port of Super Street Fighter II X: Grand Master Challenge that was made for the DC. Japan only, but oh so worth the effort getting it.

[Baloo]

LOL, didn't I tell you over MSN to get a Dreamcast, only to be responded with "I don't like 3D games"?

OH well, it's good to see that you've actually gotten one. Some of my favorite games on the system I think I've told you, but I'll say them again:

Sonic Adventure
Marvel Vs. Capcom 1 and 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
Power Stone
Crazy Taxy
PenPen Trialcelon

Hope you have fun with your newly bought Dreamcast!

[The Coop]

AirForce Delta (Flying)
Alien Front Online (3D Action)
Bangai-O (Shmup)
Border Down (Shmup) *
Capcom vs SNK (Fighting)
Daytona USA (Racing)
Dead or Alive 2 (Fighting)
Draconus: Cult of the Wyrm (3D Hack 'N Slash)
Ecco the Dolphin (3D Action Puzzler)
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves (Fighting)
Giga Wing (Shmup)
Giga Wing 2 (Shmup)
Grandia II (RPG)
Gunbird 2 (Shmup)
Ikaruga (Shmup) *
Last Blade 2 (Fighting)
Last Hope (Shmup) *
Mars Matrix (Shmup)
Marvel vs Capcom (Fighting)
Marvel vs Capcom 2 (Fighting)
MDK 2 (3D Action)
Metropolis Street Racer (Racing)
Red Dog (3D Action)
Resident Evil 2 (Survival Horror)
Resident Evil 3 (Survival Horror)
Resident Evil: Code Veronica (Survival Horror)
Skies of Arcadia (RPG)
Soul Calibur (Fighting)
Street Fighter III: Double Impact (Fighting Compilation)
Street Fighter III: Third Strike (Fighting)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Fighting)
Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage (3D Hack 'N Slash)
Test Drive Le Mans (Racing)
Test Drive: V-Rally (Racing)
Under Defeat (Shmup) *
Wild Metal (3D Action)
Zero Gunner II (Shmup) *


*= Japanese import

[TheEdge]

Wasn't there just a thread on this?

[Youngie]

AirForce Delta (Flying)
Alien Front Online (3D Action)
Bangai-O (Shmup)
Border Down (Shmup) *
Capcom vs SNK (Fighting)
Daytona USA (Racing)
Dead or Alive 2 (Fighting)
Draconus: Cult of the Wyrm (3D Hack 'N Slash)
Ecco the Dolphin (3D Action Puzzler)
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves (Fighting)
Giga Wing (Shmup)
Giga Wing 2 (Shmup)
Grandia II (RPG)
Gunbird 2 (Shmup)
Ikaruga (Shmup) *
Last Blade 2 (Fighting)
Last Hope (Shmup) *
Mars Matrix (Shmup)
Marvel vs Capcom (Fighting)
Marvel vs Capcom 2 (Fighting)
MDK 2 (3D Action)
Metropolis Street Racer (Racing)
Red Dog (3D Action)
Resident Evil 2 (Survival Horror)
Resident Evil 3 (Survival Horror)
Resident Evil: Code Veronica (Survival Horror)
Skies of Arcadia (RPG)
Soul Calibur (Fighting)
Street Fighter III: Double Impact (Fighting Compilation)
Street Fighter III: Third Strike (Fighting)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Fighting)
Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage (3D Hack 'N Slash)
Test Drive Le Mans (Racing)
Test Drive: V-Rally (Racing)
Under Defeat (Shmup) *
Wild Metal (3D Action)
Zero Gunner II (Shmup) *


*= Japanese import

Nice list. Though you'd need to be a billionaire to own them all.

[TheEdge]

Under Defeat alone costs $100 and thats not even adding on shipping.

I want to buy red dog but its still $50

[The Coop]

Under Defeat alone costs $100 and thats not even adding on shipping.

I want to buy red dog but its still $50

Yeah, the import DC shmups aren't cheap anymore, but they're good.

And where are you finding Red Dog for $50? Try looking here...

http://video-games.shop.ebay.com/items/Games__Red-Dog?Platform=Sega%2520Dreamcast&_catref=1&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_fln=1&_sacat=139973&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282

[gamevet]

Yeah, Red Dog isn't one of the more expensive games on the DC.

I've been putting off buying Red Dog and Sword of Berzerk for quite some time. I need to get on the ball.

[Dirt Ball Gamer]

Zero gunner 2 and under defeat are the best 2 off the top of my head.. Oh yeah and virtua tennis 1&2. There is just too many to list, like hundreds of good games 4 DC

[Kollision]

shmups (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/index.php/Main/Shmups) - All of them!

That's a great link, thanks for posting it! :)

And I agree. As far as shmups go, the Dreamcast is a powerhouse!

[TheEdge]

And where are you finding Red Dog for $50? Try looking here...

http://video-games.shop.ebay.com/items/Games__Red-Dog?Platform=Sega%2520Dreamcast&_catref=1&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_fln=1&_sacat=139973&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282

Wow, thanks. I think im going to put some money down on this when I get home.

[nissling]

I got my Dreamcast today. Theese are the games that I have yet.

18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker
Chu-Chu Rocket
Crazy Taxi 2
Daytona USA 2001
Ecco The Dolphin -Defender Of The Future-
Jet Set Radio
Looney Tunes : Space Race
Mortal Kombat Gold
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
Resident Evil Code : Veronica
Sega Rally 2
Snow Surfers
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Virtua Striker 2 Ver.2000.1

Not the best collection, but I will buy some more games of course. :)

[Knuckle Duster]

The worst part about collecting for the DC in my opinion, is the aftermarket is flooded with broken games that had their scratches removed like a standard CD. This KILLS DC games.

I bought a seemingly mint copy of Mortal Kombat Gold that's a glorified coaster from a used game store.

If you're ever doing the same, be sure to look at the actual disk closely, you might see a wavy pattern in the reflection, it wouldn't hurt to ask either.

[TheEdge]

I got my Dreamcast today. Theese are the games that I have yet.

18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker
Chu-Chu Rocket
Crazy Taxi 2
Daytona USA 2001
Ecco The Dolphin -Defender Of The Future-
Jet Set Radio
Looney Tunes : Space Race
Mortal Kombat Gold
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
Resident Evil Code : Veronica
Sega Rally 2
Snow Surfers
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Virtua Striker 2 Ver.2000.1

Not the best collection, but I will buy some more games of course. :)

Nice buddy, I'm always happy to see a new Dreamcast fan 10 years after its release.

Enjoy :!:

[nissling]

These games came today.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/nissling/IMG_0009.jpg
I played Shenmue in a hour or two, pretty good game. Soul Calibur was good too, even if I'm not the biggest fan of 3D-fighting games.

[Christuserloeser]

Soul Calibur was the first game where everyone agreed that it definitely looked better than the previous generation of video games.

If you're looking for a game that's really, really good but can be found for next to nothing it would be Virtua Tennis. ;)


Oh, and if you want to try some homebrew, check out http://dcevolution.net/ and http://dcemulation.org/

[TheEdge]

If you're looking for a game that's really, really good but can be found for next to nothing it would be Virtua Tennis.


Oh, and if you want to try some homebrew, check out http://dcevolution.net/ and http://dcemulation.org/

He's correct but instead of getting Virtua Tennis 1, I would suggest Virtua Tennis 2 (AKA Tennis 2k2).

This is an updated version of of the game, so you may as well get the superior sequel instead of the original.

Just a thought.

[David J.]

It's worth having both Tennis games. For some reason I prefer Virtua Tennis over 2K2.

Where there two variations of Tennis 2k2, with the spine being different?

[gamevet]

I know there is a black label version, like that of Sonic Adventure 2. I don't think they ever released an All-Star version though, like Virtua Tennis had.

[TheEdge]

I know there is a black label version, like that of Sonic Adventure 2. I don't think they ever released an All-Star version though, like Virtua Tennis had.

Tennis 2K2 has a black spine and manual. Since it was one of the last games for the DC it didn't get the chance to be put into the All-Star list.

I found my copy recently at a flea market for $20 Brand new factory sealed.

[gamevet]

That's a lot of money for Virtua Tennis 2K2. I probably paid about $10 for mine about 5 years ago.

[TheEdge]

That's a lot of money for Virtua Tennis 2K2. I probably paid about $10 for mine about 5 years ago.

Was it brand new factory sealed? If it was it was probably because it was 5 years ago and they were just trying to get the DC games out of there. Now they are more of a collectors item. I've seen Brand New Tennis 2k2 copies for $40-60 dollars on Amazon and half.com.

[j_factor]

That's weird, I just ordered a sealed Tennis 2K2 for $6.

[jerry coeurl]

I got a sealed copy of Tennis 2K2 last year on eBay. $10 shipped. And there were multiple copies going for roughly that price, all sealed.

I think this is one of the few instances where I've heard of something going for more at a swap meet than on eBay.

[TheEdge]

Wow, Ya, EBAY and Half.com both have Tennis 2k2 both for $6+ dollars factory sealed. That's crazy.

Amazon though still has one new copy going for $40 dollars. I guess they didn't get the memo.

Now I'm thinking I should have talked him down. I guess seeing a Dreamcast game in the wild just made me pounce on it without thinking.

[Christuserloeser]

Yeah, it's not that Virtua Tennis 2 would be any worse than the first game or rare or super expansive or anything - I just really like the original Virtua Tennis. I think that it's slightly easier for the inexperienced to learn so it's more fun in multiplayer, and also it seems that they spent less work on the female player characters in VT2 than they did with the male players which they took from VT1. The female models just don't look as realistic so that makes the overall visual experience appear a bit unbalanced.

I know it's really minor nitpicks, and VT2 overall probably still is the better game, but that's why I'd recommend VT1.

[gamevet]

Was it brand new factory sealed? If it was it was probably because it was 5 years ago and they were just trying to get the DC games out of there. Now they are more of a collectors item. I've seen Brand New Tennis 2k2 copies for $40-60 dollars on Amazon and half.com.

Yeah, it was brand new. The Toys R Us in my neighborhood had it, and the other sports titles that weren't selling, sitting on a shelf for months. VT 2K2 was everywhere, years after the DC was gone.

[David J.]

I got it for like $10... two to three years ago. New too.

No, it is the reg release, but the spine is green in my copy, like a tennis court. will take pics this weekend.

[TheEdge]

Do you guys think we will ever see another solid console like the Dreamcast on the market? In terms of fun factor / pick up and play / multiplayer.

[Christuserloeser]

Do you guys think we will ever see another solid console like the Dreamcast on the market? In terms of fun factor / pick up and play / multiplayer.

I am not sure I understand the question.

[David J.]

I have like 90+ DC games now... I think it is time for me to retire from DC game collecting. All I want is some acessories, and I can get them locally except one which is pretty damn rare.

Well, I dont think they have a few of them in stock right now, but they get them in stock and have had them before.

[TheEdge]

I have like 90+ DC games now... I think it is time for me to retire from DC game collecting. All I want is some acessories, and I can get them locally except one which is pretty damn rare.

Well, I dont think they have a few of them in stock right now, but they get them in stock and have had them before.

I topped off my DC collection at 40 games and a butt load of burned ones. I think Last Hope: Punk Bullets is going to be my last DC game.

I'm pleased with my collection and I really don't have time to play anymore games then I already have.

Oh, and if anyone is still on the fence about buying DUX, its a great game. I just got it on friday. I think redspotgames.com actually has a bundle sale going so you can get both WIND & WATER and DUX in the same package for a cheap price.

[Genesis Knight]

I was disappointed with DUX. I guess I don't understand why they chose to imitate R-Type so closely when there's been so much development in the genre over the 20 (?) years since that game's release. Archaic source == archaic product. Or maybe it's because I've become too used to bullet hell vert shmups... I don't play too many horis anymore.

[InternalPrimate]

Do you guys think we will ever see another solid console like the Dreamcast on the market? In terms of fun factor / pick up and play / multiplayer.

I would argue that the 360 is this. Except for, you know, the shitty failure rate. No matter how much I love Microsoft for what they've done RIGHT this generation, I'll never forgive them for the four Red Rings I've had to endure.