The best Sonic game in 10 years [Archive]

Diosoth

09-07-2009, 04:27 PM

Karakasa-Obake

09-07-2009, 04:42 PM

I have honestly never heard anybody use the word "lefter" at any pint in time. Why would a little kid need to learn that?
EDIT: Oh, it says letter.

Baloo

09-07-2009, 04:45 PM

I have honestly never heard anybody use the word "lefter" at any pint in time. Why would a little kid need to learn that?
EDIT: Oh, it says letter.

That's LeTter.

And do you guys know who actually manages the Leapfrog...?

Tom Kalinske of course.

David J.

09-07-2009, 04:49 PM

Street Fighter IV. Oh wait, that was the best game in the past ten years. According to Chris "Fatman" Whitney.

17daysolderthannes

09-07-2009, 04:50 PM

Bitch about Black Knight, but you're a hypocrite. When Legend of Zelda does the EXACT SAME GAME, you eat it up.

I fucking hate Zelda and always have.

Sonic Unleashed would've been great if they just left it to daytime. I want a proper 2.5 D Sonic game that plays just like the old ones, why is that so hard for Sega to understand?

17daysolderthannes

09-07-2009, 04:50 PM

Street Fighter IV. Oh wait, that was the best game in the past ten years. According to Chris "Fatman" Whitney.

pfffft, HD Remix was a better game than SF IV.

jerry coeurl

09-07-2009, 05:14 PM

I've called you an idiot before but... yeah. There's "not liking a game" and there's "fucking crying about it."

True, Sonic 360 tried to handle a plot bigger than it could take, had crappy load times for a modern gen game, and Silver was a horrible ripoff of the alien from Destroy All Humans, but when Sega hands you what you keep asking for- Sonic Advance, Sonic Rush- and you ignore it, why the hell should they listen to the "fans"?

Bitch about Black Knight, but you're a hypocrite. When Legend of Zelda does the EXACT SAME GAME, you eat it up. Sonic Unleashed was their best effort, but it wasn't good enough. And why should Sega care? They KNOW you people will never stop complaining so it's pointless to try and please you.

If I were Sega, I'd try even MORE new things just to piss off the "fans" even more. You wanna cry, I'd give you a reason to cry.

Sonic Chronicles is pure shit, but that blame lies with Bioware, as they can NOT make a good game. Just overhyped shit. Don't yell "Mass Effect" at me, Mass Effect is an interactive movie at best.

All of the games you listed are middling at best. There hasn't been a decent Sonic game since Adventure 2, really (which still wasn't great). There hasn't been a great Sonic game since S3&K.

Sonic Advance and Rush are so fucking dull, crappy colours and godawful level designs abound. Advance 3 is the first Sonic game that has ever put me to sleep. Seriously, these games are so mediocre they're not even worth mentioning. They retain none of the charm or fun factor that the original 2D titles had in spades.

Sonic 360 was a broken mess. The ideas behind Sonic Is A Swordsman and Sonic Is A Werewolf are so completely asinine that it's almost hard for me to believe that an actual group of human beings sat down and thought the concepts through to fruition. It doesn't help that these games are just as fundamentally flawed as any other 3D entry to the series.

Sonic fucking blows now dude. He is the last refuge of 12 year old retards and closeted furries. It's time to let go.

Knuckle Duster

09-07-2009, 05:51 PM

I've called you an idiot before but... yeah. There's "not liking a game" and there's "fucking crying about it."

True, Sonic 360 tried to handle a plot bigger than it could take, had crappy load times for a modern gen game, and Silver was a horrible ripoff of the alien from Destroy All Humans, but when Sega hands you what you keep asking for- Sonic Advance, Sonic Rush- and you ignore it, why the hell should they listen to the "fans"?

Bitch about Black Knight, but you're a hypocrite. When Legend of Zelda does the EXACT SAME GAME, you eat it up. Sonic Unleashed was their best effort, but it wasn't good enough. And why should Sega care? They KNOW you people will never stop complaining so it's pointless to try and please you.

If I were Sega, I'd try even MORE new things just to piss off the "fans" even more. You wanna cry, I'd give you a reason to cry.

Sonic Chronicles is pure shit, but that blame lies with Bioware, as they can NOT make a good game. Just overhyped shit. Don't yell "Mass Effect" at me, Mass Effect is an interactive movie at best.

Bioware knows how to make good games. You must have been too busy hugging teddy bears in your PJ's to have played Baldur's Gate when it was new. Knights of the Old Republic is the best Star Wars RPG ever, and stands toe-to-toe Chrono Trigger.

Mass Effect can be seen as them 'Trying something new with what they know', which you seem to praise Sega for while ostracizing legitimate concerns from the established fan base.
Also, I sense you don't consider anybody who hates the new sonic games, "Fans" with the way you've worded your post.

Just because you like the new dog-shit sega's been milking to stay alive, doesn't make you a "True Fan" or remove the valid complaints established by their releasing it.

The Rush and Advance praise only gos so far as well, since the main complaint was always the lack of "A Good 3D Sonic Title On A Console."

So I ask this:
What is it you have truly said here?

Aside from referencing your previous attempts at pissing on 17daysolderthannes, did you just feel 'compelled' to respond to his post with condescending rabble holding no meaningful point?

Here's what I see:

"RAWR! I Called You an Idiot!...SONIC RULZ, UR ALL STOOPID FOR NOT BUYING NEW CRAP AND BUYING ZELDA, YOU R NOT "FANS". SEE THAT? I USED QUOTATIONS! RAWR! WHY SHOULD SEGA CARE, BIOWARE SUCKS, MY OPINIONS ARE TRUTH!!! RAWR! NAP TIME!! zZZzzz"

kool kitty89

09-07-2009, 07:54 PM

I fucking hate Zelda and always have.

Sonic Unleashed would've been great if they just left it to daytime. I want a proper 2.5 D Sonic game that plays just like the old ones, why is that so hard for Sega to understand?

Yeah, I can underststand that, though my personal taste doesn't match that at all. I personally love adventure games and 3D platformers, Sonic 2006 is possibly the second worst sonic game ever made though, I think that barely playable basterdized GBA "Sonic Genesis" port is even worse though. (for ruining a classic if nothing else)

Still SA1+2 are the best 3D sonic games, Heros was bearable if you were good at ignoring annoying characters (Japanese voices were sometimes worse too so that's no help). Haven't played much of Secret Rings or Black Knight, but they seem OK, and are at least pretty nice looking for the Wii (and BK is not like Zelda at all IMO, more like a hack and slash 3D game combined with a 3D platformer).
I think Unleashed was actually more playable on the Wii, lower poly count and not HD, but it removed the annoying wandering overworld sections with simpler a fixed map screen instead. And the controlls were pretty good, Wiimote was so so, but GC controlller was great.

Still, if you're not a big 3D platformer fan, the flaws are probably too great to overcome.
I also immagien the "adventure" portion (overworld) of SA1 was rather boring/annoying for you as well, it was a plus for me personally though, as I like the wandering exploration of the adventure game style. (SA2 was much better at getting into the action though)

bla bla bla pointless agressive argument

You need to take a joke and take things in context of personal oppinion...

He obviously wasn't being completely serious, particularly considering the few good 2D sonic releases, especially homebrew. (megamix and a few PC games)

Elusive

09-07-2009, 08:08 PM

Threads like this are exactly the reason I hope nobody important at Sega ever, ever discovers the Internet.

I mean, if someone explained in excruciating detail, down to bullet-pointed lists, exactly in what way you have personally offended them in the past decade, you'd tell them where to get off (to put it politely). Precisely because the type of person who would reel off lists like that is the type I wouldn't want anything to do with.

What on Earth makes this particular videogame character/series serious business? Grow the fuck up, people!

[edit] But that particular game does look like a clever way of getting kids into edutainment, though. I smiled at the 'complete the word' segments :)

17daysolderthannes

09-07-2009, 08:10 PM

He obviously wasn't being completely serious, particularly considering the few good 2D sonic releases, especially homebrew. (megamix and a few PC games)

The emphasis was more on how good of a job they did turning classic Sonic action into an educational game that wasn't god awful to play. If I had a son, I would buy that shit in half a second. If you watch the videos on the website, you can even hookup the handheld game system to the computer and make your own customized spelling lists and stuff. So, if you were the age that you still take spelling tests, you could just put your list for the week into the Didj and play Sonic and make an A when the test came around. God I wish I had that, for me it was staring at a book going "GOD DAMMIT, I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAME GEAR!!!!"

gamegenie

09-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Sonic Adventure.

Elusive

09-07-2009, 08:30 PM

Sonic Adventure.

Hey, you can love chocolate, vanilla AND strawberry without choosing just the one favourite. Either way you get delicious ice cream! :)

17daysolderthannes

09-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Sonic Adventure.

Hey, you can love chocolate, vanilla AND strawberry without choosing just the one favourite. Either way you get delicious ice cream! :)

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED!?!?!??!?!

Knuckle Duster

09-07-2009, 08:45 PM

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED!?!?!??!?!

"Neopolitan The Walrus" just got his own SonicTeam title.

kool kitty89

09-07-2009, 10:19 PM

The emphasis was more on how good of a job they did turning classic Sonic action into an educational game that wasn't god awful to play. If I had a son, I would buy that shit in half a second. If you watch the videos on the website, you can even hookup the handheld game system to the computer and make your own customized spelling lists and stuff. So, if you were the age that you still take spelling tests, you could just put your list for the week into the Didj and play Sonic and make an A when the test came around. God I wish I had that, for me it was staring at a book going "GOD DAMMIT, I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAME GEAR!!!!"

Yeah, that does look like a pretty good conversion to edutainment (probably some of the best of that genre I've seen). The sound is a bit off, but actually seems better than the shitty GBA port.

Tanegashima

09-08-2009, 06:15 AM

I wonder where the notion of "hey, this game is fun, I'll continue to play it forever" went? Now its like "these games are awful, 'whine whine where did my childhood memories go?"

They're just video games...thankfully, I have the ability to ignore them and continue playing my sega genesis.

I might also add that this disappointment is nothing new: I submit into evidence a summarized letter to Electronic Gaming Monthly from January 1994:

"I'm really tired of this concept of ''beating'' video games, I really wish games would go back to where they were when I was a kid, just trying to get a high score not all this complicated mess. Video games simply aren't fun to me anymore."

Huh...that seems really familiar, somehow.

Flygon

09-08-2009, 06:27 AM

"Neopolitan The Walrus" just got his own SonicTeam title.
"Knuckle Duster" just earned a place in my signature.

Cornugon

09-08-2009, 08:27 AM

but that blame lies with Bioware, as they can NOT make a good game. Just overhyped shit. Don't yell "Mass Effect" at me, Mass Effect is an interactive movie at best.

Ehh Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights+addons? Some believe MDK2 was great (never played it though).
Even Shattered Steel was pretty decent aside from bugs.

But then again Jade Empire was poor so not all of their games are good no.

matteus

09-08-2009, 09:05 AM

What on Earth makes this particular videogame character/series serious business? Grow the fuck up, people!

You use a forum based on a games console that deceased many moons ago and start asking it’s members to grow up … I laugh in your general direction.

16-bit

09-08-2009, 01:10 PM

I'm actually really diggin' the new sprites they made for the Sonic 3 styled Sonic.

If I were ever to buy a Didj, this would be the reason I would, I mean I can have it teach me how to spell long and complicated words, that's a lot more than I can say about a lot of other games.

Karakasa-Obake

09-08-2009, 03:37 PM

Iron Lizard

09-08-2009, 04:03 PM

Its like Wiz'N'Liz on speed.

Rusty Venture

09-08-2009, 04:23 PM

I like the Sonic 3+K-ish sprites & shields in the Sonic 1+2 levels.

Melf

09-08-2009, 05:21 PM

True, Sonic 360 tried to handle a plot bigger than it could take, had crappy load times for a modern gen game, and Silver was a horrible ripoff of the alien from Destroy All Humans, but when Sega hands you what you keep asking for- Sonic Advance, Sonic Rush- and you ignore it, why the hell should they listen to the "fans"?

Sonic Advance sold so well that it got 2 sequels and a few spin offs, and Sonic Rush sold almost 3 million copies and spawned a sequel. Why? Because they were two good 2D Sonic games and not the 3D crap Sega churns out every year. And again, you just proved my theory about Sega releasing a good 2D Sonic right after it releases a shitty 3D one. It's a digital apology!

Sonic Unleashed was their best effort, but it wasn't good enough. And why should Sega care? Sonic Unleashed was good, until Sonic turned into a werehog. You know what made Sonic Adventure such a cool game? You played Sonic, and he ran and did platform stuff like he used to on the Genesis. Sega moved farther and farther away from that with each new game, and that's why Sonic sucks now.

If I were Sega, I'd try even MORE new things just to piss off the "fans" even more. You wanna cry, I'd give you a reason to cry.I doubt it would really change things. Sonic games can't get any worse than they already are, and yet people STILL buy them!

http://www.skynet.ie/%7Echeese/GsocStuff/SonicCycle.jpg

Sonic Chronicles is pure shit, but that blame lies with Bioware, as they can NOT make a good game. Just overhyped shit. Don't yell "Mass Effect" at me, Mass Effect is an interactive movie at best.Mass Effect was AWESOME, and if Sega could do half as well with Sonic, it would be a complete rebirth of the franchise.

Elusive

09-08-2009, 07:08 PM

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED!?!?!??!?!

You know what I mean. Having more than one favourite - or even stranger, having an opinion on something beyond black-and-white - is where the win is at.

You use a forum based on a games console that deceased many moons ago and start asking it’s members to grow up … I laugh in your general direction.

Oh, you. We're all chums here.

http://www.skynet.ie/%7Echeese/GsocStuff/SonicCycle.jpg

Mass Effect was AWESOME, and if Sega could do half as well with Sonic, it would be a complete rebirth of the franchise.

Elusive's Sonic Cycle:
First info released - fans immediately question WHY it's not S3&K in 2.5D like their fanfiction. Series is widely condemned as dead.
More screens, trailer released - fans immediately seize on freeze-frames of pre-production gameplay to explain exactly HOW it's not S3&K in 2.5D. Moans and howls of "I WON'T BUY IT, SEGA IS FUCKING US AGAIN" heard across the blogosphere. Fan-artists begin cranking out 'ironic' Rule 34 dreck, spurred on by 'ironic' requests by 'ironic' fans with 'ironic' senses of humor. Series is still widely condemned as dead.
Game released - fans all proclaim "WE TOLD YOU SO", sit back smugly, buy the game anyway and complain how it's not S3&K in 2.5D. Series is still widely condemned as dead; the game ends up in the 6-7 range on Metacritic anyway. And so the cycle continues...

Mass Effect worked because it was a love letter to sci-fi fans. Having Humanity be the Ferengi of the galaxy instead of some kind of noble central-pillar species is kind of a refreshing idea.

bohokii

09-08-2009, 08:30 PM

my alphabits keep spelling OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

those are cheerios ya moron

maybe they could make a mickey mouse castle of illusions and have al the enemies letters like the one stage with the evil scarlet letters

Deo

09-08-2009, 10:46 PM

If I was 10 years younger and knew what the original Sonic games were, I would be begging my parents for one of those things.
I wonder if Sonic can spell adult words?

jerry coeurl

09-09-2009, 03:10 AM

Elusive's Sonic Cycle:
First info released - fans immediately question WHY it's not S3&K in 2.5D like their fanfiction. Series is widely condemned as dead.
More screens, trailer released - fans immediately seize on freeze-frames of pre-production gameplay to explain exactly HOW it's not S3&K in 2.5D. Moans and howls of "I WON'T BUY IT, SEGA IS FUCKING US AGAIN" heard across the blogosphere. Fan-artists begin cranking out 'ironic' Rule 34 dreck, spurred on by 'ironic' requests by 'ironic' fans with 'ironic' senses of humor. Series is still widely condemned as dead.
Game released - fans all proclaim "WE TOLD YOU SO", sit back smugly, buy the game anyway and complain how it's not S3&K in 2.5D. Series is still widely condemned as dead; the game ends up in the 6-7 range on Metacritic anyway. And so the cycle continues...

I've never heard anyone complain that a new Sonic game isn't S3&K in 2.5D. Usually they just complain because it's fundamentally broken and not any fun to play. I'm pretty sure that furries are the only ones left who actually purchase the games, and it's not like their standards could be any lower anyway.

17daysolderthannes

09-09-2009, 12:15 PM

I'm pretty sure that furries are the only ones left who actually purchase the games, and it's not like their standards could be any lower anyway.

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yep, pretty sure they couldn't.

Rusty Venture

09-09-2009, 02:32 PM

Furry + that "being a baby" fetish?

Hope for humanity truly is lost.

Baloo

09-09-2009, 02:35 PM

Furries are the lowest spot on the nerd chain, right down there with lolicos.

17daysolderthannes

09-12-2009, 08:32 PM

Furries are the lowest spot on the nerd chain, right down there with lolicos.

oh no, true furries (the ones that actually get off to it) are right there next to pathological serial killers that make suits out of human skin. The anime nerd furries are certainly just horrendous losers, however.

Karakasa-Obake

09-12-2009, 09:35 PM

How do all of these threads keep turning into furfag threads?

17daysolderthannes

09-12-2009, 10:33 PM

How do all of these threads keep turning into furfag threads?

AIDS?

GriskaGyoran

09-12-2009, 11:06 PM

I think some people have confessions to make <_< >_>.

Knuckle Duster

09-12-2009, 11:50 PM

Diosoth is the only true furball here, and sadly, it seems he has pulled his site down between his outbursts of nerd-rage. :(
Will we ever get the opportunity to revel in his glorious prose again?
Will we ever hear more succulent stories about a promiscuous Rogue The Bat & himself on the internet?
Why do you deny us your fan fiction Diosoth? Why do you hate us, so? :cry:

"WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Rusty Venture

09-13-2009, 02:11 AM

I think some people have confessions to make <_< >_>.

Metal_Sonic's dancing furry sig is confession enough.

Why-Disciple

09-13-2009, 01:07 PM

oh no, true furries (the ones that actually get off to it) are right there next to pathological serial killers that make suits out of human skin. The anime nerd furries are certainly just horrendous losers, however.
So anime nerd furries don't actually get off to it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was the definition of a furry.

Da_Shocker

09-13-2009, 01:35 PM

I think the reason Sega keeps churning these crappy Sonic games out is because there like the only ones that consistently sell a million units. Anything else and the masses simply ignore it. Sonic 2 which was the best selling Genesis game would come in at 5 under SF2 for the SNES. In fact Nintendo has never ever had this particular problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Top_20_console_games_of_all_ti me

They are the media darlings.

Rusty Venture

09-13-2009, 01:41 PM

SF2 = overrated

That game was overrated in 1992 and it still is 17 years later (because Capcom still makes the same game 17 years later).

sega fan

09-13-2009, 01:54 PM

SF2 = overrated

That game was overrated in 1992 and it still is 17 years later (because Capcom still makes the same game 17 years later).

Good to see I'm not the only person who noticed Street Fighter 4 was the SAME EXACT game as Street Fighter 2. I also love how some people who bitched about too many releases of SF 2 in the 90's bought SF 4 in a heartbeat. :shame:

Also that furry video made me feel depressed and even more like a loser just by watching it and while on the topic of that video; I want to buy an External Hard drive. Download that furry video to it. Then overhand-throw that hard drive into a river.

17daysolderthannes

09-13-2009, 03:53 PM

So anime nerd furries don't actually get off to it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was the definition of a furry.

nope, just weird people. Weird, culturally devoid people that try to supplement their lack of any belonging with estranged Japanese anime weirdness. Again, its the anime FANS that killed anime for me, not that I would've watched most of it to begin with. The only anime I can actually enjoy are the ones that could just as easily be live action (Initial D, Wangan Midnight, and actually, they both have live action movies, lol).

SF2 = overrated

That game was overrated in 1992 and it still is 17 years later (because Capcom still makes the same game 17 years later).

SF II Turbo is the only version I really loved, all the rest had glaring problems:

SF II was slow and clunky
SF II CE was blatantly unbalanced
SF II Turbo/SCE was just plain awesome
Super SF II/Turbo was again unbalanced and offered nothing new and only killed what was good
SF III was too technical and all of the playable characters were fucking stupid
SF IV cheesed out everything that SF II Turbo had going for it and ruined it as a result

Therefore, everyone should play Fatal Fury 3/Real Bout/Mark of the Wolves

Elusive

09-13-2009, 06:47 PM

I've never heard anyone complain that a new Sonic game isn't S3&K in 2.5D. Usually they just complain because it's fundamentally broken and not any fun to play. I'm pretty sure that furries are the only ones left who actually purchase the games, and it's not like their standards could be any lower anyway.

Eh. Opinions are opinions, I'll happily chew over a game's ups and downs. I just don't like people bashing something without giving it a fair chance, is all.

How do all of these threads keep turning into furfag threads?

Low hanging fruit, I suppose. See you in the next Sonic thread.

Rusty Venture

09-14-2009, 02:51 AM

Good to see I'm not the only person who noticed Street Fighter 4 was the SAME EXACT game as Street Fighter 2.

I know nothing about SF4, I just know Capcom. :mrgreen:

And in 2011 Capcom can release Super Street Fighter 4: Turbo Remix 20th Anniversary Edition with this caption:

"20 years of releasing the same shit."

17daysolderthannes

09-14-2009, 12:38 PM

I know nothing about SF4, I just know Capcom. :mrgreen:

And in 2011 Capcom can release Super Street Fighter 4: Turbo Remix 20th Anniversary Edition with this caption:

"20 years of releasing the same shit."

Capcom and Nintendo both. Seriously, Mario inside of Bowser, seriously. Mario games should just have their own section with a banner "games for people with no personality that lack the ability to think for themselves."

Elusive

09-14-2009, 02:10 PM

Capcom and Nintendo both. Seriously, Mario inside of Bowser, seriously. Mario games should just have their own section with a banner "games for people with no personality that lack the ability to think for themselves."

My, aren't we projecting our insecurities here. Tell me more about these 'inferior gamers'; how do they make you feel? *taps clipboard*

Rusty Venture

09-14-2009, 03:50 PM

17daysolderthannes

09-14-2009, 06:15 PM

I still think "Super Mario 3" rocks. :p

yes, it does, very much so, so what does that have to do with Tennis? Golf? the Olympics? exactly. Mario had some great games and aside from Galaxy, I don't think a good one has come along in almost 15 years.

Phantar

09-14-2009, 06:20 PM

What about "New Super Mario Bros."? or "Paper Mario"? (regarding the latter, oh right, you hate all RPGs...)

MrMatthews

09-14-2009, 07:02 PM

What about "New Super Mario Bros."? or "Paper Mario"? (regarding the latter, oh right, you hate all RPGs...)

...or Mario 64? Or Mario Kart DS (which is regarded by many as the best in the series)? Even Mario Sunshine was good. What about Mario vs Donkey Kong? And the Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi games sidestep most of the RPG elements that fellows like 17days hate.

Come to think of it, I haven't played a Mario title yet that I haven't enjoyed.

InternalPrimate

09-14-2009, 07:31 PM

...or Mario 64? Or Mario Kart DS (which is regarded by many as the best in the series)? Even Mario Sunshine was good. What about Mario vs Donkey Kong? And the Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi games sidestep most of the RPG elements that fellows like 17days hate.

Come to think of it, I haven't played a Mario title yet that I haven't enjoyed.

Well played. Wait, I can come up with a Mario game I didn't enjoy... nevermind, I couldn't.

kool kitty89

09-14-2009, 08:14 PM

What about "New Super Mario Bros."? or "Paper Mario"? (regarding the latter, oh right, you hate all RPGs...)

Weird that you mention that, as Super Paper Mario is the least RPG-ish, and the only one I didn't really care for. I found it rather annoying...

I didn't like Mario Kart DD that much either (it was OK), don't care for some of the mario party games (and all seem too time consuming for me), I liked Mario Tennis on N64, but newer ones haven't seem to improved, Mario Strikers on GC was OK, the Wii one isn't that much fun though.

I didn't love Galaxy either, my btother liked it a bit more, but it wasn't that engaging for me, 64 or Sunshine are my favorite 3D Mario games (a toss up), and Yoshi's Island for 2D hands down.

Rusty Venture

09-15-2009, 03:19 AM

yes, it does, very much so, so what does that have to do with Tennis? Golf? the Olympics? exactly.

It means that when Nintendo is wanting some extra moo-la, they shoehorn Mario's fat ass into some game and watch as fans with a boner for Mario eat it up.

That is also the only reason I can think of why Sega makes money on these newer Sonic games, some people love Sonic so goddamn much they gotta have him as a "werehog".

Phantar

09-15-2009, 04:03 AM

That is also the only reason I can think of why Sega makes money on these newer Sonic games, some people love Sonic so goddamn much they gotta have him as a "werehog".

Or kiss him (Re: "Sonic The Hedgehog" XBOX)...

17daysolderthannes

09-15-2009, 04:04 PM

It means that when Nintendo is wanting some extra moo-la, they shoehorn Mario's fat ass into some game and watch as fans with a boner for Mario eat it up.

That is also the only reason I can think of why Sega makes money on these newer Sonic games, some people love Sonic so goddamn much they gotta have him as a "werehog".

I know, that's what I just said: those games have not a goddamn thing to do with Mario and dumbasses need to stop buying them without evaluating them to see if they are steaming shitpile first. If people wouldn't buy them, they wouldn't make them, like I said in this and 242345324 other threads, the only way things will get better is if people stop buying the shitty games. The only way to do that is to make an attempt (however feeble) to educate these people before they put $60 in some asshole's pocket only to get home and go "aw man, this is terrible!"