New DSi?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[MrMatthews]

Nintendo did this on purpose, I think.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176647

[Metal_Sonic]

Damn, if it's true, that is one shitty thing to do.

[Baloo]

It's the same thing!

[Knuckle Duster]

Look at it this way:

At least they're not removing the cart slot with delusions of grandeur :rofl:

The games & screens have all been the same resolution thus far as well, so we'll see if the bigger screen makes it look worse this time around. ;)

[MrMatthews]

I'm alright with the bigger screen and I don't mind the added pixelation that goes with it. But why didn't they throw this in with the last upgrade? Besides money, I mean?

Well, this (http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/41263/excitebike-world-rally/videos/excitebikeannounce.html) looks pretty cool, at least.

[Knuckle Duster]

i needed to get a DSi. Now I'm even more "Fucked" with choosing current model, next year's new one, or the inevitable DS2 platform.

You know what that means:

It's all Sony's fault for some reason! :D

[Da_Shocker]

It seems like a DSI 1.5 i guess.

[Deo]

How many elderly people are actually going to buy this?

[Knuckle Duster]

How many elderly people are actually going to buy this?

Wii's rockin the old folks, I'm sure some quality time with a DSblind will have them old-timers rockin the Brian Age/CrossworDS/Professor Layton titles.

Might even bite a market share out of the Ebook market if nintendo partners with anybody. :nod:

[Joe Redifer]

Nintendo likes fuckin' with y'all, and y'all fall for it each and every time. Suckers.

[JDB]

The Redifer speaks the truth

[genocide-superstar]

I'll stick with my DS lite for the time being thank you very much. I have no need for an impractical, shitty camera...

[Knuckle Duster]

I would only want a DSi for the option of testing bootleg games out prior to purchase.

I would even prefer if Nintendo did the right thing, and used the Nintendo channel through Wii. To give away a "Download-Play" demo that essentially ran whatever checks necessary to the cart-slot to determine if it's a legit game.

Asian bootleggers are killing the aftermarket, & propping up resellers abroad.

It's disgusting.

[17daysolderthannes]

Nintendo likes fuckin' with y'all, and y'all fall for it each and every time. Suckers.

I say it and nobody listens. WHEN WILL THEY LEARN!?

http://www.blogcdn.com/nintendo.joystiq.com/media/2006/11/nintendo_wiki_1110.jpg

http://rlv.zcache.com/nintendo_sucks_sega_mousepad-p144611292134402595trak_400.jpg

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/6/2/a/62a136a376de6d66a58edf0d62bdcc09.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2006/01/DSPrintsMoney.jpg

http://jimfairthorne.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/nintendo-sucks.jpg

[sketch]

http://jimfairthorne.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/nintendo-sucks.jpg

That's perfect!

[Rusty Venture]

Nintendo did this on purpose, I think.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176647


If true, Nintendo strikes again.


Only suckers buy their handhelds.

[kool kitty89]

You know, I feel kind of dumb now, but I didn't realize until now that the DS photoshopped into the "it prints money" pic is WAY too small. :p

Anyway, the captions on the tower are pretty ammusing. :lol:

[Smii]

Meh. Unless it dies (or starts to show symptoms of progressive disease, like old fat DSes) I'll stick with my DS Lite and huge seven game library. Maybe I'll even add a couple more when they become cheap enough. :p

Btw - stupid "fun" photo editing options as seen on DSi ads weren't that "fun" on the Gameboy Camera, and they're still not. Humbug.

[Speedle]

DS lite FTW! and i wont be changing it no matter how many gimmicky models they bring out... Nintendo are gettng a bit cocky now since their recovery with the Wii and DS...

Sega stop f**king up and show em how its done! properly this time!

[Knuckle Duster]

I think the DSLite was the best Nintendo product since the SNES.
They go down to $99cdn brand new when on sale these days, & they play GBA games.

Throw in 60 bucks for a new CycloDS Evo, 40 bucks for a class6 microsdhc card, and you're in the ballpark of 200 bucks for 'everything' should you want it.

Still cheaper than the PSPGo, which is the true handheld for suckers.

[mrbigreddog]

If true, Nintendo strikes again.


Only suckers buy their handhelds.

And non-suckers steal them?

[mrbigreddog]

DS lite FTW! and i wont be changing it no matter how many gimmicky models they bring out... Nintendo are gettng a bit cocky now since their recovery with the Wii and DS...

Sega stop f**king up and show em how its done! properly this time!

Timing is the biggest problem for Sega... They always would jump the gun....

[jerry coeurl]

Nintendo likes fuckin' with y'all, and y'all fall for it each and every time. Suckers.

Word.

[Rusty Venture]

And non-suckers steal them?

Stealing non-suckers steal whatever nets them money.

[MitsuruX]

The only problem i see is.. how would current games look on the new "larger" screens.. would it automatically streach the image to fit... (Gross), or would it not use the extra realestate... will developers then create games specifically for the New version (probably not)..

The collector in me wants it regardless.. but my wallet is screaming NO NO NO

Who knows

[Deo]

The next DS will feature a function that automatically gives you carpal tunnel.

[Knuckle Duster]

The next DS will feature a function that automatically gives you carpal tunnel.

I hear the PSPGo is one step ahead of them, by not only offering a cramped up carpal tunnel experience, but also giving everybody who bought one 'blue balls' when they realize how much they've 'just been fucked.' :D

I'll buy a DSi when my DS Lite is neglected long enough to meet it's predestined demise at the hands of preschool tyrants. :nod:
I might as well, since it's the only platform I'm actively collecting games for these days.

[Rusty Venture]

The next DS will feature a function that automatically gives you carpal tunnel.

Sorry, GBA SP already does that.

[kool kitty89]

Meh. Unless it dies (or starts to show symptoms of progressive disease, like old fat DSes)

Huh, what happens to the original DS models? My brother's is kind of funky (mainly one of the speakers is flaky), but that's par for the course, almost all of his handhaleds are badly worn, original GB with gouged screen and broken battery door, GBC with bad speaker, GBA horribly scratched up (except screen) and broken battery door.


The only problem i see is.. how would current games look on the new "larger" screens.. would it automatically streach the image to fit... (Gross), or would it not use the extra realestate... will developers then create games specifically for the New version (probably not)..

From the discriptions, the resolution won't be any higher, just the screen size. So compare it to playing games on a 20" TV to a 27" TV.


Sorry, GBA SP already does that.

Isn't the Gameboy Pocket worse in that respect? (not to mention the micro)

[Deo]

Sorry, GBA SP already does that.

Damn small handed Japanese kids!

[InternalPrimate]

I saw this yesterday too. I think I'll just hang on to mine. Besides the increased screen size, there's no real advantage to swapping systems. Some might even view the smaller screens as its own advantage - more portable.

[Karakasa-Obake]

I don't really see why everybody is freaking out. It's not like it's a total re-haul or anything, it just has bigger screens. Which is a stupid choice, don't get me wrong, just not anything to commit suicide about.

[MrMatthews]

The "freak-out" is because Nintendo just released the DSi. And now they're on the cusp of releasing an "improved" model that I'm sure many adopters of the DSi would have waited for if they had known it was coming.

Also, this happens to be taking place right around when the internetz are rumbling about the DS's successor.

[Rusty Venture]

Damn small handed Japanese kids!

I thought it was designed for Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

[Knuckle Duster]

Could be worse, they could be making this bigger, better,'intelligent' etc. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Robotic_Operating_Buddy.jpg

[Rusty Venture]

He'd still only work with 2 games.

[JDB]

He'd still only work with 2 games.

it's not a he, it's an it

[Knuckle Duster]

it's not a he, it's an it

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2009/03/pennywise-the-clown.jpg

[Rusty Venture]

R.O.B.: Tim Curry Edition

[MrMatthews]

So it's true.

The new DSi model will offer larger screens, a bigger body, longer battery life, and cooler colors.

Ds.ign.com

[Knuckle Duster]

Good.

I would hope they would upgrade the battery tech, considering that unless the games are forced to letterbox, the screens will undoubtedly stretch & "Ass" the graphics up a bit.

[jerry coeurl]

Let this be a lesson to you: never buy a new Nintendo handheld, as they're going to unveil a superior model in the next two weeks.

[InternalPrimate]

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/comp_1.jpg

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/k3nji8.png

[Deo]

Hooray for big handed people!

[InternalPrimate]

I remember playing this system!:

http://www.varologic.com/blog/Images/Nintendo_DS_LCD_Screen.jpg

Talk about a design nightmare. I don't know if Nintendo's ever rushed a console to market like they did the original DS.

[Deo]

The first model DS was horrible, it was heavy, had a tiny stylus, and the weird grooves really hurt after a while. The only good thing about it was the clicky buttons.

[InternalPrimate]

That's what happens when you think Sony is going to take all your business with their fancy new PSP :D

[Devil N]

Could be worse, they could be making this bigger, better,'intelligent' etc. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Robotic_Operating_Buddy.jpg
Wow, I now finally understand an obscure VG Cats reference.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=220

Yay me.

[zetastrike]

Would any sane person actually shell out the money for the same system they bought 2 months ago, but with bigger screens? Better question: wtf nintendo? I can't imagine they'll make a lot of money off of this. In Japan, maybe.

[InternalPrimate]

Would any sane person actually shell out the money for the same system they bought 2 months ago, but with bigger screens? Better question: wtf nintendo? I can't imagine they'll make a lot of money off of this. In Japan, maybe.

Summed up my thoughts almost exactly.

[sega fan]

I know its hardly news but Im pretty sure Nintendo knows that DS (and Wii) is their money maker and they're going to whore it out as much as possible. Much like Capcom with Street Fighter 2 and Mega Man, Sega With Sonic, and Harmonix with Guitar Hero. People are stupid enough to buy the same product, so the corporations keep cranking out the same damn product.

[InternalPrimate]

I see this move as very similar to what Amazon did recently with the Kindle. I know a lot of blogs are considering this an appeal on Nintendo's part for seniors. I really, still, don't see any advantage to purchasing an upgrade that only has to do with size of the hardware. No change in design, mind you, just size.

[17daysolderthannes]

I see this move as very similar to what Amazon did recently with the Kindle. I know a lot of blogs are considering this an appeal on Nintendo's part for seniors. I really, still, don't see any advantage to purchasing an upgrade that only has to do with size of the hardware. No change in design, mind you, just size.

I don't understand this "lets appeal to seniors" crap. Seniors are known for having sluggish reaction times, pretty much the core necessity of video games, and lack of interest in electronics (at least this generation, things will change when we get there), why the fuck are they trying to sell grandma a Wii instead of appease the kids/adults that spend half of their income on video games?

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again:

Nintendo, you're dead to me, DIAF.

[InternalPrimate]

I don't understand this "lets appeal to seniors" crap. Seniors are known for having sluggish reaction times, pretty much the core necessity of video games, and lack of interest in electronics (at least this generation, things will change when we get there), why the fuck are they trying to sell grandma a Wii instead of appease the kids/adults that spend half of their income on video games?

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again:

Nintendo, you're dead to me, DIAF.

Again, Nintendo isn't confirming that this new DSi is aimed towards seniors, it's just speculation from various outlets. In fact, Nintendo made a statement on the subject today:


When we compare the LCD screen size, Nintendo DSi LL has a screen 93% larger than that of Nintendo DS Lite and 67% larger than that of Nintendo DSi. When you only hear about this feature, you may wonder if the bigger screens are the only difference or whether Nintendo is launching a Nintendo DS for seniors only. Nintendo does not offer new product for such limited purposes only. Nintendo DSi LL features not only bigger monitor screens, but an improved view angle on the screens to make it the first portable system that can be enjoyed with people surrounding the gamer. Many people see portable video game device as the device that can be played by yourself wherever you are. In fact, portable video game systems so far have been developed by prioritizing the portable nature and single-player modes. Due to cost restraints, monitor screens had to be small, and LCD could not provide a beautiful view from an angle, so portable video game machines were structurally confined to game plays by a single player. So far, when people play with portable video games with their friends, they generally need to have a corresponding number of portable game systems and connect them wirelessly. Of course, we will further promote such a play style that has been widely spread by Nintendo DS, but Nintendo DSi LL is going to offer a new play style where those who are surrounding the game player can also join in one way or the other to the game play. - Satoru Iwata

I think this is just another option, different from their usual upgrade. Again, just like the Kindle - one version isn't better than the other, just different. They coexist.

[Knuckle Duster]

"WAAAHHHHH! MY TOY'S NOT THE SHINIEST ONE ANYMORE EVEN THOUGH IT STILL DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO!!! WAAAAAAHHHH! NINTENDO BETRAYED US! THEY OWE US SOMETHING, THEY DIDN'T EVEN GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO BRAG ABOUT IT!"

Nintendo can afford too drop this oddity on the market.
Who cares why? It's obvious they want to see if they can snag another market & consume more entertainment dollars like any successful business.

Long term: It's probably just a consumer feedback "test run" of the DS successor's planned form factor, regarding size.

[MrMatthews]

I'm all about the larger screens and the longer battery life.

But making a "portable" system larger? Excuse me while I claw the logic center out of my brain.

I'm not going to say I won't buy one eventually, but this is one of those occassions where I'll have to see it in action first-hand.

[Rusty Venture]

I predict the next DSi will have 14in rims with spinners and flames painted on the side.

5 months later, it will have 16in rims with spinners and flames.

[Jesse813]

All of this talk about old people and Nintendo is reminding me about how my friend that works at Gamestop told me that some kids grandpa bought him a DSi and Wii for getting his 1st haircut, damn spoiled kids, though If given the option when i was that age years ago i most likely wouldve asked for an NES or Genesis.

[MrMatthews]

Jesse, if you were given that option years ago you'd better choose the Wii and/or DSi.

Just think: you'd be the only one in the entire world with one of those systems. Think of the fame and glory, man!

And the tail? Fuhgeddibowdit!

[Jesse813]

The Wii is good, i like the DS, but the DSi just seems like cheap gimmicky upgrade, I'd rather have GBA compatibility than a couple shitty cameras.

[17daysolderthannes]

actually, I think this larger screen thing might be kind of cool. It may actually make a DS worth owning if the price is right. Ah, who am I kidding? there's nothing worth playing on the DS!

[Knuckle Duster]

actually, I think this larger screen thing might be kind of cool. It may actually make a DS worth owning if the price is right. Ah, who am I kidding? there's nothing worth playing on the DS!

You think iPhone is the best handheld gaming platform, & write off DS as having 'Nothing worth playing'. :roll:

Ever the constant whiny bitch for the sake of popular rebellion.
Keep at er, Billy Idol. :lol:

[MrMatthews]

Ah, who am I kidding? there's nothing worth playing on the DS!

That statement is so ridiculous and groundless that it's impossible to be offended by it. The DS has one of the best all-around libraries in the past three console generations.

But you knew that already; you were just hoping to get a rise out of some people. ;)

[Chilly Willy]

Seriously, there's a reason to own EVERY console or handheld when you get down to it. The only thing that keeps people from owning every one is bias or financial reasons. As I have disposable income now that I didn't have then, and fewer biases, I pick up many of those consoles I couldn't or didn't get back when they came out. It helps that many are rather cheap to pick up these days. :)

[Deo]

It will be dubbed the DSi LL in Japan where it goes on sale on November 21 for 20,000 yen (about $220). In Europe, the unit will be known as the DSi XL when it appears on store shelves in the first quarter of 2010. Nintendo did not provide details on a possible North American launch.

$220!? I think I'll stick with my Lite and deal with uncomfortable hands.

[Collision Cat]

Rawr! I bought a DSi pretty much as soon as it came out, and already it's being succeeded? I heard you can't even transfer your downloaded games to a new device! Nintendo are playing silly buggers, I think they're milking the fact they're dominating the handheld market. :shame:

[Knuckle Duster]

Rawr! I bought a DSi pretty much as soon as it came out, and already it's being succeeded? I heard you can't even transfer your downloaded games to a new device! Nintendo are playing silly buggers, I think they're milking the fact they're dominating the handheld market. :shame:

You were still in diapers when the Gameboy pocket/light/color landed. That was a good 7 years into it's lifespan.

"Milking" is an understatement. :lol:

[Rusty Venture]

All I can say is that the GBA screen spoiled me. The original GB screen is three scoops of excrement in comparison.

I miss being able to adjust the shade, but I don't miss the blurring and ghosting.

[kool kitty89]

All I can say is that the GBA screen spoiled me. The original GB screen is three scoops of excrement in comparison.

I miss being able to adjust the shade, but I don't miss the blurring and ghosting.

The pocket was OK in that regard though, but not as comfortable. (a big plus of the GB classic over others -for me at least- is the greater cumfort of the larger size and larger d-pad and buttons -long battery life is nice too)

[Rusty Venture]

The original "Brick" is nicer to hold, way better than the GBA, but that screen...

Too bad Nintendo was too lazy/cheap to put a proper light in the GBA, if it did I'd be in retro GB game heaven.

[Collision Cat]

Too bad Nintendo was too lazy/cheap to put a proper light in the GBA, if it did I'd be in retro GB game heaven.
Get a model AGS-101 GBASP! It's got a screen similar to the Micro and DS, unlike the frontlit screen of the earlier model GBASP. It suffers from some pretty nasty ghosting though.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tQjxcO-7ajw/SHEhkRBswVI/AAAAAAAAARU/d5ENuy7A2gg/s400/GBASP.jpg

[Rusty Venture]

I would if I could hold the thing comfortably or stop laughing at the fact I have to buy an adapter to plug in my headphones.

What a fucking asshole move, take out the headphone jack. :?

[17daysolderthannes]

I would if I could hold the thing comfortably or stop laughing at the fact I have to buy an adapter to plug in my headphones.

What a fucking asshole move, take out the headphone jack. :?

You have to buy an adapter to plug in headphones!?

For Christ's sake, if Nintendo was a person I would kick them square in the balls. So glad I abandoned them after the N64 (well, I own a Wii, but really all it is now is a way to watch youtube on my TV).

[Rusty Venture]

For the SP you had/have to buy a small adapter so you could plug in headphones. It converted the data port/whatever into a standard headphone jack.

That's right, you had to buy a $10 adapter to get functionality that every Gameboy before that had built in.

[Collision Cat]

Yeah, that was pretty stupid of them. I bought an adaptor and while Game Boy games sound fine, Advance games are far too quiet even on max volume! :p

[Deo]

While sorta on the topic of GBA games, why do most of them have hissing/dull sound?

[Collision Cat]

While sorta on the topic of GBA games, why do most of them have hissing/dull sound?
Either the speaker on your GBA is buggered (not unusual, that happens to mine sometimes, it usually sorts itself out after a while) or you just have to get used to the GBA's somewhat weak sound chip. :p

[kool kitty89]

GBA sound chip is the same as GB/GBC plus 10-bit PWM DACs for digital playback (iirc very similar to 32x's, but maybe set up as 2 channels rather than paired as stereo), anyway PWM results in pretty poor quality output, a good bit of artifacting present, perhaps that's the "hissing" being heard.

[Rusty Venture]

I kinda miss the original Gameboy's "hum" when it was on.

[lostSUNDAY]

I kinda miss the original Gameboy's "hum" when it was on.

Hehe, yea. Like a tiny tiny Vectrex.

[nomad83]

the one major problem with the original dsi is that they got rid of the backwards compatible with the gameboy advance.

[FoxHound]

I want a DS, but I dont know which one to pick DS-lite or DSi