Shocking Truths

[Guntz]

Basically, if you've never played a particular and very popular game, or anything similar to that, post it here. This is mine:

... I've never played an Outrun game...

Is there a decent port on home consoles? Or will I have to MAME it?

[MN12BIRD]

The Genesis version of Outrun isn't too bad. It doesn't have the nice scaling of the Arcade version but it's a decent port I guess.

[shinobimusashi]

i dont think you can go wrong with either the genny or master system ports(pretty solid 8 bit racer with a good multiplayer mode)

[Ecco]

Okay shocking truth:

I DISLIKE both Lunar games! I can't even play them. Why? The terrible, god-awful little-kid voices!!!

Thank goodness Phantasy Star IV is free of all voices!!!

[Joe Redifer]

Shocking truths:

I don't care much for the Sonic games. Don't get me wrong, I love Sonic 1, Sonic 2 is a decent follow up, but I got bored as hell by Sonic 3. I bought Sonic 1 on the day of its release and still have it (my box doesn't have that ugly "NOT FOR RESALE" banner on it). I borrowed Sonic 2 from a friend, I never got caught up in the "Sonic 2sday" hype. I resorted to renting Sonic 3 and later rented Sonic & Knuckles (without part 3). In my opinion the games just got worse and worse (and grainy looking!). The artwork style in part 3 is just plain ugly and Sonic & Knuckles looked even worse compared to the smooth graphics of parts 1 and 2. There wasn't too much to the original game to begin with and the sequels just felt tacked on. I still think Sonic 2 was an appropriate follow-up (minus Tails who has no right to exist), but I had just had enough.

[Karakasa-Obake]

I can barely get past the 2nd level of Contra Hard Corps. I've gotten past it before, only to die soon after. I really like the game, I just don't like losing over and over.
Also, I have never beaten Sonic 1, but I have beaten Kid Chameleon. Weird right? I beat Kid Chameleon on a sick day when I didn't even have the energy to get up and switch the cart.

[Iron Lizard]

Shocking truths:

I never really got into Toejam and Earl. I also whole heartily agree with Joe on the Sonic games.

[Allan]

I'm with Joe, though the opposite way round.

Can't stand Sonic 1/2, love 3/Knuckles.

[Nunzio]

I hate Streets of Rage 2. You can't time your punches cheaply like in the first one and Adam is not playable! They replace him with Skate for crying out loud!

Don't get me wrong, I love the scenery, especially the Aliens level... but the gameplay just loses it in favour of doing flashy combos.

[NavesRegge]

Shocking Truth

I absolutely can not play The Secret of Monkey Island on Sega CD. I'm not sure that this game is too popular, but the constant loading times and trying to use the D-Pad like a mouse is not something I like. I do like the humor of the game so I may try to get an emulator for it and play it without the horrible loading time and actually use a mouse.

[kool kitty89]

Shocking truths:

I don't care much for the Sonic games. Don't get me wrong, I love Sonic 1, Sonic 2 is a decent follow up, but I got bored as hell by Sonic 3. I bought Sonic 1 on the day of its release and still have it (my box doesn't have that ugly "NOT FOR RESALE" banner on it). I borrowed Sonic 2 from a friend, I never got caught up in the "Sonic 2sday" hype. I resorted to renting Sonic 3 and later rented Sonic & Knuckles (without part 3). In my opinion the games just got worse and worse (and grainy looking!). The artwork style in part 3 is just plain ugly and Sonic & Knuckles looked even worse compared to the smooth graphics of parts 1 and 2. There wasn't too much to the original game to begin with and the sequels just felt tacked on. I still think Sonic 2 was an appropriate follow-up (minus Tails who has no right to exist), but I had just had enough.

Opposite for me, of the 16-bit games, #&K is probably my favorite, 3 alone would still be my favorite otherwise, then 2, then 1 (CD is close) and Knuckles alone least.

Now I need to play the 8-bit games more, but so far, they're pretty awesome, I definitely like Sonic 2 for SMS. (having Green Hill 1/2 way through the game is a bit weird though)



My shocking truth: I don't like 2D platformer all that much, the 8/16-bit Sonic games, Yoshi's Island, and SMB1 are probably my favorites, but in general 3D platformers are more fun (probably why I like 3D blast more than most), that and SA1/2 are probably my favorite Sonic games because of that and that I like adventure games (almost all kinds) even more. (only flight sims more than that) And when I say all types, I mean 3D adventure/exploration games, Zelda type games, and graphic adventures to text based adventure games. (text probably my least favorite, but still enjoyable)

[Ecco]

I can agree w/ part of the Sonic discussion. I think Sonic 1 is great, 2 is the best, and S&K is really good. However I think Sonic 3 is mostly just awful. Ugly graphics, bad music, lame cut scenes, worst Sonic stage ever (Carnival Night), the disappointment that you can't fight Knuckles at the end... I've always found Sonic 3 altogether disappointing. And it came out after the terrible Sonic Spinball!!! Oh the disillusionment!!!

[JRedmond3]

Yup, Sonic 3 is definitely the weakest of the 16 bit games(barring Spinball). I'm really not a fan of Marble Garden, Carnival Night, or Launch Base Zone. Considering there are only 6-7 stages, that's like half the game.

"I hate Streets of Rage 2."

BLASPHEMER!!! I just reported you to be banned.

[kool kitty89]

I'll say sonic 2 has the best special stage of any of the 16-bit games. I really need to try the 8-bit games more too.

IDK, The only real plus to S3&K is the knuckles levels (with more access to added areas), otherwise the music is awesome (albeit they changed the cool bos battle theme from Sonic 3, I prefer S&K's knuckles' theme though). And th egraphics... I think Sonic 3 looks damn good, maybe a bit gritty, but in no way worse overall than Sonic 2 or Sonic 1. (although, in context, I'd have to say sonic 2 on SMS probably looks the best -in the context of the hardware limitations)

One other comment on the SA games... I hear complaints from reviewers about problematic camera control, but it's perfectly fine IMO, and a LOT better than SM64, especially SA2.

[nathanallan]

Shocking Truth: I have come to almost love NHL Hockey on Game Gear. I don't know why, but it's a really fun game for me.

[kool kitty89]

NHL Hocky on the Genesis is supposed to be one of the best sports titles for it, more apealing to *non sports games* than most, kind of like NBA Jam in that respect, I guess.

[TmEE]

I like Sonic 1 and 2 on SMS muuuuuch more than Sonic 1 and 2 on MD/Genny, MD Sonic 1 is ok, but Sonic 2 is tedium if anything more. Sonic3(&K) kicks ass of all.

[Zebbe]

I find Eliminate Down, an STG famous to rival the greatness of Thunder Force IV, to be mediocre. Synth instruments don't sound as good as in TFIV (the riff guitar sounds like a weird kazoo or something), the graphics don't have as much parallax or aren't as aestetically pleasing, the difficulty is very unbalanced and if die twice you loose all your weapons and it's near impossible to regain them if you've come a few stages into the game, because it's even harder with those peashooters you start with. Also, it cost me WAAAY too much, $180 or so, while my mom got me TFIV for free when I was a kid.

[Christuserloeser]

Shocking truths:

I never really got into Toejam and Earl. I also whole heartily agree with Joe on the Sonic games.

Ditto. I bought the second game when it came out. Played it a few times. Love the graphics style but I got tired when I got to stage 5 or 6 or whatever and never touched it again.

Never played the first one, although it's supposed to be so much better.




I find Eliminate Down, an STG famous to rival the greatness of Thunder Force IV, to be mediocre.

I agree about the music, but the graphics are sexy.




Shocking truths:

I don't care much for the Sonic games. [...] The artwork style in part 3 is just plain ugly and Sonic & Knuckles looked even worse compared to the smooth graphics of parts 1 and 2.

Very true: The graphics in Sonic 1 and 2 looked MUCH better than in Sonic 3. Sonic 3 looks somewhat 'American' (i.e. like a game that was developed by Sega of America) while STI was only involved with the music.

Sonic 3 however was the first cartridge based Sonic game that Rieko Kodama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Kodama) wasn't involved in, which perhaps does explain the different art style. She was working on Phantasy Star IV (http://info.sonicretro.org/Reiko_Kodama) at that time.

Jina Ishiwatari (http://info.sonicretro.org/Jina_Ishiwatari) was another Sonic 1 & 2 designer not involved with Sonic 3.

I think that Sonic & Knuckles does look a lot more like Sonic 1 & 2 than Sonic 3 btw. Seems to me that they noticed what went wrong with Sonic 3 and tried to get back to the modern 'hand drawn CG' art style of the previous games.

[NeoVamp]

Shocking Truth

I absolutely can not play The Secret of Monkey Island on Sega CD. I'm not sure that this game is too popular, but the constant loading times and trying to use the D-Pad like a mouse is not something I like. I do like the humor of the game so I may try to get an emulator for it and play it without the horrible loading time and actually use a mouse.

Just get the VGA version with mp3 music and play it on your pc with ScummVM,
the only reason anyone would want to play Sega CD Monkey Island would be so they could say that they played it on original hardware,
if you're gonna emulate you might as well play the superior VGA version.

[Flygon]

I don't really have many shocking truths.

At worst, it's that I prefer Sonic 1 SMS over Sonic 1 MD.

[Jesse813]

I also Prefer Sonic 1 on the SMS over the Genesis version, though I still like 2 better on the Genesis, and Sonic Chaos is a bit too easy since i can beat it w/ my eyes closed.

[GameUser-16-32-128]

Shocking truth: I like Heavy Nova and Sonic 3D Blast!

[Ultraman]

I know this is the Genesis section, but I couldn't think of anything.

However, I just plain don't like Nights for the Saturn. I know it's thought to be one of the premiere games for the system, but man, I really don't get it.

[TmEE]

Shocking truth: I like Heavy Nova and Sonic 3D Blast!

Totally agree, at least on the Heavy Nova part, and Kolission will approve the love for Heavy nova too :)


However, I just plain don't like Nights for the Saturn. I know it's thought to be one of the premiere games for the system, but man, I really don't get it.

I don't like Nights much either...

[Baloo]

Shocking truth:

I prefer the Sega Saturn to the Sega Genesis.

I think Burning Rangers and NiGHTS into Dreams are the two best games made by Sonic Team (and not any of the Sonic games). And I love NiGHTS and Burning Rangers.

I don't care for Sonic and Knuckles.

I've never played a SHMUP on the Genesis.

I like Sonic 3D Blast on the Saturn, but not so much on the Genesis.

I think Sonic R is a great game.

I like the 32x.

[Ecco]

I'll say sonic 2 has the best special stage of any of the 16-bit games.

Agreed. Though Sonic 1 has the most polished, dreamy, trippy special stages.


I really need to try the 8-bit games more too.

I've played some on Game Gear. I'd avoid the 8-bit Sonic 2, but Sonic 1 is great, and Sonic Chaos is real nice. There's a stage just like Emerald Hill from Genesis Sonic 2. Sonic has the spin dash PLUS the peel-out from Sonic CD, and you can play as Tails and fly too.


IDK, The only real plus to S3&K is the knuckles levels (with more access to added areas), otherwise the music is awesome (albeit they changed the cool bos battle theme from Sonic 3, I prefer S&K's knuckles' theme though). And th egraphics... I think Sonic 3 looks damn good, maybe a bit gritty, but in no way worse overall than Sonic 2 or Sonic 1. (although, in context, I'd have to say sonic 2 on SMS probably looks the best -in the context of the hardware limitations)

Oh man I thought Sonic 2 on GG was ugly as hell!


Shocking Truth: I have come to almost love NHL Hockey on Game Gear. I don't know why, but it's a really fun game for me.

Huh, maybe I'll pick that one up sometime. I always see it in piles at the local retro shops.

[deadpixels]

Okay shocking truth:

I DISLIKE both Lunar games! I can't even play them. Why? The terrible, god-awful little-kid voices!!!

Thank goodness Phantasy Star IV is free of all voices!!!

Voices aside, I consider both Lunar's to be absolutely phenomenal RPGs, and two of the finest games on the Sega CD. But yeah, the voices are pretty pathetic.


I hate Streets of Rage 2. You can't time your punches cheaply like in the first one and Adam is not playable! They replace him with Skate for crying out loud!

Don't get me wrong, I love the scenery, especially the Aliens level... but the gameplay just loses it in favour of doing flashy combos.

I can't really fault the game for not letting you exploit punch timing. I still consider SoR2 to be the finest beat 'em up ever developed exclusively for consoles. Hell, I'd rate it was one of my top 3 games of all time.

As for shocking truths, I don't really have any aside from maybe the fact that I enjoyed Richard Scary's Busy Town....well after I should have. I blame it on Sega Channel and my masochistic tendencies.

[Guntz]

Shocking Truth

I absolutely can not play The Secret of Monkey Island on Sega CD. I'm not sure that this game is too popular, but the constant loading times and trying to use the D-Pad like a mouse is not something I like. I do like the humor of the game so I may try to get an emulator for it and play it without the horrible loading time and actually use a mouse.

... You DO know it was originally a PC game, right? You could buy the Special Edition release on PC or Xbox LIVE and just keep it on classic mode... Or buy Monkey Madness on eBay (it's a compilation disc).

*reads other posts, remembers more shocking truths*

I've never beaten Sonic 1, but I've beaten Sonic 2, CD, 3, Knuckles, 3&K and even Sonic 1 on Game Gear.

I like Sonic Spinball (but I can't finish the final level).

I've never played Toejam & Earl.

I can't stand Strider.

I like the 32X.

[old man]

I like shooters, but I don't understand what's so great about M.U.S.H.A. or Robo Aleste.

[Christuserloeser]

Considering the quality of most other MD shmups, I understand what you mean. But they're good games.

MUSHA was released in 1990 btw, and judging by its graphics and sound it could as well have been released in 1993 or even 1995 and would still have blown away 95% of all the games in other genres.

Hell, it took Technosoft two years to catch up with Thunder Force IV.

[Markss]

i hate landstalkers cannot stand the controls also never have cared much for sonic 3 and like golden axe 3

[NeoVamp]

Shocking Truths.. I have an extreme dislike for the Phantasy Star series,

PS1 was cool with it being on SMS and all,
but after that we got PS2 which looked almost exactly like the SMS version,
and we got PS3 which is just an abomination in itself,
and then we got PS4 which came late in the life of the Genesis but still looks like an 8bit game!
(and wtf is up with that PSO game? so its only about leveling up? just grinding and no story at all?)

Snes got Secret of Mana and Breath of Fire and Lufia and Chrono Trigger,
And the Sega got crap isometric rpg's!

RAGE!

I was very surprised at Barver Battle Saga to be honest, it showed that good looking RPG's were possible on the Genesis.

[maxxfarras]

Ultrashocking truth:

Even when I think of myself as a great sega genesis fan and I love too much sonic 1 and I love many classic games for the sega genesis, I was dissapointed when I saw sonic2. I was hoping for more. The colours and graphics dont look as good as sonic 1 and that also goes for the music. Even sonic 2 is a fun game it is not the "sonic 2" that I was waiting for.

For me, Sonic 3 was better than sonic 2 but no so great as sonic 1.

And I dont liked me landstalker also :daze:

[SirArthur]

i hate landstalkers cannot stand the controls

I missed playing Landstalker in 1993, & picked it up in 2000 & couldn't get into it at all.

**My shocking truth (can't believe I'm saying this on a Sega-16 site) is that I believe Gunstar Heroes is just a wee bit overrated.
It's a fun game especially 2 player, but it wouldn't even rank it in my top 20 Genesis games.
Again, it probably would have helped if I played it first when it came out and not in 2000 when I bought it.

[Guntz]

^That's another game I've barely played. Right now I don't really care to drop any sort of money on Gunstar Heroes. I have Gunstar Super Heroes on GBA with it's box and manual though. =/

[Christuserloeser]

Landstalker's controls are terrible (which is why I never got into playing it), Golden Axe 3 is awesome, Sonic 2 was exactly what I expected (although I was incredibly dissapointed that the beta stages didn't make it into the final game!!! :( ), and Phantasy Star IV has more class than any SNES RPG combined.

[Eric83]

My shocking truth. I've never played Phantasy Star II or the original Phantasy Star. By the time I got into RPGs they were no longer sold new in stores. In the early to late 90s I couldn't even find them used anywhere. I looked everywhere for them.

I was going to get the carts off Ebay but then I heard about the PS collection for the GBA. By the time I got a GBA they were going to remake them on the Playstation 2. So I decided to wait for the PS2 remakes, then those never got translated. :(



Voices aside, I consider both Lunar's to be absolutely phenomenal RPGs, and two of the finest games on the Sega CD. But yeah, the voices are pretty pathetic.

I like both the Lunar games but TBH Ghaleon, and Quark are the only voices I like from the first Lunar.

[tomaitheous]

Shocking truth.... I've actually finished Traysia from start to end. Yes, I know - it's one nasty looking of a game. But I did it and I'm not afraid to admit it :p

[Deo]

Basically, if you've never played a particular and very popular game, or anything similar to that, post it here. This is mine:

... I've never played an Outrun game...

Is there a decent port on home consoles? Or will I have to MAME it?

The Genesis has LOTS of slowdown when more than a couple cars are on screen and the SMS version has TONS of flicker. You'd be best off just playing it on MAME.

[kool kitty89]

I've played some on Game Gear. I'd avoid the 8-bit Sonic 2, but Sonic 1 is great, and Sonic Chaos is real nice. There's a stage just like Emerald Hill from Genesis Sonic 2. Sonic has the spin dash PLUS the peel-out from Sonic CD, and you can play as Tails and fly too.
But isn't sonic 3 (and knuckles?) the only one supporting P1 as tails?

Oh, yeah, chaos, I haven't played that at all yet, but maybe one to look for importing for the SMS. (once I get one)


Oh man I thought Sonic 2 on GG was ugly as hell!

Huh, maybe I'll pick that one up sometime. I always see it in piles at the local retro shops.
Hmm, I think it looks great on the SMS on youtube videos and in fusion, from what I've played I like it, but I know it's hit and miss. Sonic 1 looks a bit blander graphics wise IMO. No oppinion on Chaos yet though.

The GG versions crop a LOT of the screen though, from 256x224 to 160x144.

[Joe Redifer]

I don't remember much if any slowdown in Genesis Out Run. Play the Saturn version. It's better than the arcade... it has an option to run at 60fps whereas the arcade version (and therefore MAME) wimps out at 30fps. Why? Because they are super weak! :)


I've actually finished Traysia from start to end.
But HOW did you accomplish this? I couldn't quite figure out what was going on. The scrolling was so herky-jerky it hurt my eyes. I don't think I even managed to figure out how to get out of the first town. I do not understand why it would be so difficult for the programmers to implement smooth scrolling. Doesn't the Genesis scroll via hardware? If so, doesn't that mean they'd have to write a special routine just to make it scroll worse? I can understand the 3DO scrolling like ass in Gex, but the Genesis? C'mon, whoever made Traysia!

[Guntz]

I don't remember much if any slowdown in Genesis Out Run. Play the Saturn version. It's better than the arcade... it has an option to run at 60fps whereas the arcade version (and therefore MAME) wimps out at 30fps. Why? Because they are super weak! :)

I hope the Saturn version isn't another one of those imports...

*looks it up*

Damnit! :mad:

[The Coop]

Shocking Truth: Never played a Zelda game, never played a Kirby game, never played a Madden game, never played an NHL game, didn't play a Final Fantasy until XII (Fran got my attention ;)), not all that enamored with Star Craft, and I like the reboot trilogy of Spyro.

[Why-Disciple]

I hate RPGs, including Phantasy Star.

Legend of Zelda reminds me too much of RPGs, and therefore, I hate Zelda as well.

[JDB]

my truth: I truly don't understand the hype over Sonic 1.
It's good, but not great IMO.

...and I think S3&K is the best of the bunch

[TheCheezman]

Shocking Truth: My favorite Golden Axe game is Golden Axe 3. Also I fricken love sonic spinball. THE BUTTONS!!!

[Iron Lizard]

Shocking Truth...

I prefer Hydrox to Oreo!

[SirArthur]

I've never played Phantasy Star II or the original Phantasy Star. By the time I got into RPGs they were no longer sold new in stores. In the early to late 90s I couldn't even find them used anywhere. I looked everywhere for them.

I was going to get the carts off Ebay but then I heard about the PS collection for the GBA. By the time I got a GBA they were going to remake them on the Playstation 2. So I decided to wait for the PS2 remakes, then those never got translated. :(


Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection is your answer.
It has all the PS games (1st one is unlockable) & it's only $20 new for the 360 & PS3. It's also the greatest compilation game ever made.

[Rusty Venture]

Shocking truth:

I had "compilation games" that make you unlock other games.

Especially if that game is "Flicky"

The worst offender is whatever Sega compilation makes you play so many hours to unlock the ability to play S3+K. Seriously?

[Honey the Cat]

Shocking Truth:
I actually kinda like the music in Zero Tolerance.

[Ecco]

Shocking truth: Game Gear Columns rocks my world in a dark room, in the middle of the night!!!

[TmEE]

Shocking Truth:
I actually kinda like the music in Zero Tolerance.

now that's something one does not hear people saying every day ;)
Joe realllllly loves that music too (albeit when its completely silenced) :P

[Dunn]

Games most people don't seem to appreciate, but I do: Stronghold Crusader (PC), fuck.. it's the only game I cam come up with for now, oh well. I suppose that I stand out a bit for having seen any of the turd-twilight movies, and never will. .. ever!

[JackieBogard]

I find Final Fight CD to be boring as hell to play.

[Rusty Venture]

I don't care for *any* of the "Final Fight" games.

[kool kitty89]

I hope the Saturn version isn't another one of those imports...

*looks it up*

Damnit! :mad:

Hey, isn't it included in the PS2 Sega AGES compilation?

[kool kitty89]

Shocking Truth:
I actually kinda like the music in Zero Tolerance.
now that's something one does not hear people saying every day ;)
Joe realllllly loves that music too (albeit when its completely silenced) :P

I "kinda like" the music as well, it's not great, but it's OK, more bland than anything and that's mostly becuse of GEMS. (very adlib-y) Is there a reason GEMS' stock instrument set sounds a lot like simple 2-op FM stuff? (are soem actually only use 2-operators?)

[TmEE]

any quickly slapped together instruments sound crap of FM... and they're all 4op, you cnaot do 2op on MD without wasting stuff and GEMS idea was not to waste anything... the idea was great, but execution not really...

[Defolto]

Shcking Truth: I like F-Zero on the Super Nintendo better than any racing game on the Sega Genesis

[Kollision]

Shocking truth: I like Heavy Nova and Sonic 3D Blast!
Totally agree, at least on the Heavy Nova part, and Kolission will approve the love for Heavy nova too :)
Amen, my friends, amen :)


Shcking Truth: I like F-Zero on the Super Nintendo better than any racing game on the Sega Genesis
I also agree with this.

and I don't remember any shocking truth I could share right now....

[SketchTurner94]

Shocking Truth: I have never played a Phantasy Star game.

[Baloo]

Shcking Truth: I like F-Zero on the Super Nintendo better than any racing game on the Sega Genesis

That's because there really aren't any definitive racing games on Genesis. The only good racing game I can think of that is on a 2D Sega system is Sonic Drift 2.

[havok666]

That's because there really aren't any definitive racing games on Genesis. The only good racing game I can think of that is on a 2D Sega system is Sonic Drift 2.

. . . Outrun, Road Rash, Top Gear, Super Monaco GP, Super Hang On, Test Drive II, Race Drivin'?

[Guntz]

^Super Hang-On is awesome. Even if it pales in comparison to the Arcade version. :)

[JackieBogard]

^Super Hang-On is awesome. Even if it pales in comparison to the Arcade version. :)

I agree here. the game is fun!

[shinobimusashi]

didnt they port outrun to the 32x arcade perfect?

shocking truths: never played castlevania bloodlines and i just played gunstar heroes for the first time the other day and absolutely did not understand what was so great about it. its definitely got charm but ive got to pull the overrated card!

[Smii]

. . . Outrun, Road Rash, Top Gear, Super Monaco GP, Super Hang On, Test Drive II, Race Drivin'?

Add the Micro Machines series to that list. MM96 = one of the best ever multiplayer games, and easily one of the best MD titles, too. Denying this is heresy ;)

Shocking truths:

I don't enjoy Toejam & Earl either (no, I never owned it in the 90s, and I can't understand what all the fuss is about now, and don't find the co-op enjoyable). The sequel is just... ok. I did used to enjoy Ready, Aim, Tomatoes though :D

Still don't like Ristar. Yes, it's all very pretty. And yes, I know the fact that he headbutts everything to death should probably endear the character to me a little. But Ristar is still essentially just a reject Sega-mascot, and I've never found him or his game interesting enough to bother playing it all the way through. It makes me yawn.

I find Thunder Force IV overrated, too - not sure why, I just find it boring, and always switch it off & play better shmups instead. :| On the back of that, I've not bothered to play TFII / III much either.

I do quite like the 32x though. (Are these admissions shocking truths, or guilty pleasures? :p)

[Dunn]

Shocking Truth: I have never played a Phantasy Star game.

You've missed something!

[SegaMan89]

I never finished Sonic 1 until I got my Japanese copy in November.

[acdc]

shocking truth

i find shining force 1 and 2 boring never played them out

i hate the sonic games on the mega drive but i really like 1 and 2 on the mastersystem and those are great

i hate street of rage 3

i never played any kind of sports games on the megadrive or other console s

i hate the wii fucking controls never will buy one

i played phantasy star one on the master sytem played it out
2 3 and 4 i never played them out couldn t hold my attention on it

and for toejam and earl masters of what that shit is called execute those 2 i really don t like those 2

finalley got it out of my throath

[Christuserloeser]

shocking truth

i hate street of rage 3

Try Bare Knuckle III (http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6445) - I am pretty sure you'll love it. :)

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[Rusty Venture]

Not so shocking: I don't like the Game Gear

Shocking truth: The final boss in BK3 is easier than the 1st boss (if you know the final boss' pattern).