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  1. Still not sure how Nintendo getting trounced by...

    Still not sure how Nintendo getting trounced by Sony shows that Nintendo was right. Nintendo releasing the N64 two years after the PlayStation allowed Sony to firmly establish itself in the market...
  2. The N64 should not be used as a model for...

    The N64 should not be used as a model for anything. Nintendo lost a lot of its market share there (basically most of Japan, which was unimaginable a few years before).

    But these threads are always...
  3. Well, that raises some questions: 1) I thought...

    Well, that raises some questions:

    1) I thought you reported 11 frames of lag, but now it's 8? Sorry to fuss over details, but that seems like something to get right the first time.

    2) What is...
  4. What leads you to say that? How do you account...

    What leads you to say that? How do you account for the clear differences in the videos that people are posting? Some have 10+ frames of audio lag, some have almost none.
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    I feel your pain. Everybody was going to get the...

    I feel your pain. Everybody was going to get the 6-button controller, but Sega of America/Sega of Europe apparently insisted on having the 3-button.
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    Yeah, it's reported to have about 6 or so frames...

    Yeah, it's reported to have about 6 or so frames (100ms) of input lag. Pretty standard for emulation. Most people probably won't notice at that level.
  7. Yes, it's already been mentioned. That's what...

    Yes, it's already been mentioned. That's what prompted this thread to be posted.

    The problem is that retail units may or may not match the lag that Game Sack and DF Retro showed in their review...
  8. You mean 4 frames, not ms. Again, what none...

    You mean 4 frames, not ms.

    Again, what none of these tests are considering is that there is variation among different units.

    Somebody seriously needs to get several Minis and compare them.
  9. Some do, some don't. Seems to be a crapshoot...

    Some do, some don't. Seems to be a crapshoot whether you get one that has lag or not.
  10. Good to hear. Where did you buy yours? And...

    Good to hear. Where did you buy yours?

    And I've noticed in videos so many people who are convinced that their Genesis Minis have audio lag, even though they often don't. In the video I used in...
  11. I wouldn't put much faith in what Sega says. I...

    I wouldn't put much faith in what Sega says. I imagine they want to avoid addressing this issue quite badly.

    Here is a further video comparing the Game Sack example with a no-audio-lag example...
  12. I was using Mega Man's shot sound, which is the...

    I was using Mega Man's shot sound, which is the one that DF demonstrated. I found at least three Genesis Minis on Youtube where it was fixed, and two where it wasn't.

    Honestly, the lag is so...
  13. Could you record some video? The only way to...

    Could you record some video? The only way to really know is to check it frame-by-frame.

    In the past day, I've been surprised by how many people are convinced that there is audio lag until you slow...
  14. Plenty of Genesis Minis are fixed. The worst...

    Plenty of Genesis Minis are fixed. The worst thing about it is that Sega knowingly shipped the units that were manufactured before the update. They deserve to be called out on it. People with units...
  15. It was from a live stream, and I've checked half...

    It was from a live stream, and I've checked half a dozen other videos and they're all without audio lag.

    But some other guy posted a video of Mega Man on Twitter and it clearly showed audio lag,...
  16. Here is slow-motion proof that the audio lag is...

    Here is slow-motion proof that the audio lag is no more:

    yd6CreL3FBc

    I asked Joe Redifer and John Linneman (DF Retro) on Twitter, and they said they're sticking with their initial reviews...
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    I think that game was already posted here (a few...

    I think that game was already posted here (a few hundred pages back?) and people freaked out because boobs.
  18. I just checked that video in Premiere and there...

    I just checked that video in Premiere and there are 0 frames of audio lag on Sonic for both the jump and the box hit. The video is only 30 fps, but yeah.

    Thread over. Move along.
  19. After all of this, the final release doesn't even...

    After all of this, the final release doesn't even have the audio lag?

    https://youtu.be/N_kYRwfCdHQ?t=1241

    I mean, can anybody hear any audio lag as Sonic hits the box here?...
  20. Here’s an updated, more thorough timeline of...

    Here’s an updated, more thorough timeline of events:


    1988 to 1991: Sony develops a CD-ROM add-on for the SNES, but the deal famously falls apart.
    Early to Mid-1992: Sega is in the early...
  21. But are you running stock Retroarch on your RPi...

    But are you running stock Retroarch on your RPi (Blast 16 is just a frontend for Retroarch)? Because that has quite bad input lag (8-9 frames IIRC). You have to turn on the lag reduction features,...
  22. "Professional" means they make a living doing it,...

    "Professional" means they make a living doing it, not that they're good at it.
  23. It was mentioned in I think three Youtube reviews...

    It was mentioned in I think three Youtube reviews from hardware purists (I don't use that in a negative way - I consider these reviews more informed).

    It was not mentioned in dozens of reviews...
  24. So would you pay $80 for the Genesis Mini if it...

    So would you pay $80 for the Genesis Mini if it did not have the audio lag and broken controller?

    The reason I ask is because you are a hardware purist. What does this Mini console offer you?
    ...
  25. I found the reference you're thinking of - it's...

    I found the reference you're thinking of - it's on p. 23 of MD Collected Works if you have it.

    Basically, people at SOA such as Al Nilsen were convinced that Sonic was great, but Kalinske wanted...
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