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    Default Paying burnt games?

    I was wonderind if downloading roms and burning the ISOs to a disc and playing them on my sega cd would damage it? since it seems it takes longer to load with them
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    Shouldn't do. Not sure what's up with the loading speed though, you could try burning at a different speed.

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    Im burning at 4x nero wont go any slower for some reason
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    are you testing the same game back-to-back with real vs. CD-R?

    some games take longer to load than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-scene View Post
    Im burning at 4x nero wont go any slower for some reason
    Try burning faster. High speed media and drives often do not like low burning speeds, and personally I find the merits of low speed burning to be rather overrated.

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    ^Agree'd

    I burn all my MegaCD games at 52x on Verbatim disks, never had any troubles....ever.

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    it could be your burner may be old, or maybe the software you are using to burn is no good.

    I never had issues with burning Sega CD games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silanda View Post
    Try burning faster. High speed media and drives often do not like low burning speeds, and personally I find the merits of low speed burning to be rather overrated.
    If you burn at a speed that uses zonal writing, the SCD will choke when it hits the zone boundary and fail to read. That's why the proper way to burn a disc is at the highest speed that doesn't use zonal writing. You can only know this through experience - watch discs burning at various speeds, and if you ever see the speed jump, it's no good. The speed should either stay the same, or very gradually and smoothly increase. The easiest way to "guarantee" that is to use the slowest speed the drive has, but it's not needed if you know the characteristics of your writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    If you burn at a speed that uses zonal writing, the SCD will choke when it hits the zone boundary and fail to read. That's why the proper way to burn a disc is at the highest speed that doesn't use zonal writing. You can only know this through experience - watch discs burning at various speeds, and if you ever see the speed jump, it's no good. The speed should either stay the same, or very gradually and smoothly increase. The easiest way to "guarantee" that is to use the slowest speed the drive has, but it's not needed if you know the characteristics of your writer.
    Selecting the "fastest" or "optimum" burning speed option (or similar) is almost always (if not always) zonal, right? (so definitely avoid that)
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    Dude it’s the bios that marries the 16 bit and the 8 bit that makes it 24 bit. If SNK released their double speed bios revision SNK would have had the world’s first 48 bit machine, IDK how you keep ignoring this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    Selecting the "fastest" or "optimum" burning speed option (or similar) is almost always (if not always) zonal, right? (so definitely avoid that)
    Fastest usually is zonal, yes. Not always, but very often.

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    It may not be damaging to the Sega CD, but it may be damaging to the CD-Rs. Many early CD Players laser are too powerful for reading CD-Rs. Adventually, The CD-R will become damaged and no longer readable, at point you will need to burn another one, but no big deal right?

    I know my 98 BMW is like this. If you play CD-Rs in it, it will adventually make the CD-Rs unreadable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamegenie View Post
    it could be your burner may be old, or maybe the software you are using to burn is no good.

    I never had issues with burning Sega CD games.
    Its a fairly new LG burner I got it maybe a month ago when I built the computer and I am using Nero Burning ROM 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silanda View Post
    Try burning faster. High speed media and drives often do not like low burning speeds, and personally I find the merits of low speed burning to be rather overrated.
    high speed media does not suffer from being burned slower. The max burn speed of a disc is based on the capabilities of dye in the disc as well as the balance to spin at that speed and burn accurately. At the same time, burners do usually have an optimal burn speed rather than slow=best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeniczone View Post
    It may not be damaging to the Sega CD, but it may be damaging to the CD-Rs. Many early CD Players laser are too powerful for reading CD-Rs. Adventually, The CD-R will become damaged and no longer readable, at point you will need to burn another one, but no big deal right?

    I know my 98 BMW is like this. If you play CD-Rs in it, it will adventually make the CD-Rs unreadable.
    ummm...no. If anything, older CD players have weaker lasers. The CD-R problem you're having is either leaving the CDs in direct sunlight (are you using one of those visor storage things?) or they are warping from getting too hot. Then again, I'm not even sure I buy that they are overheating as I have a 2002 car and I've had a CD-R in the drive for well over a year (maybe 1 1/2?) and it still boots up first try in the rare instances I use it (got an iPhone a year ago so I've been playing music from that).

    Quote Originally Posted by t-scene View Post
    Its a fairly new LG burner I got it maybe a month ago when I built the computer and I am using Nero Burning ROM 10
    as I asked and you didn't respond:

    are you testing games back to back with real and CD-R copies? every game is different when it comes to loading.

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    Also remember that the SCD is a 1X speed drive - load times are FREAKING LONG!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes View Post
    high speed media does not suffer from being burned slower. The max burn speed of a disc is based on the capabilities of dye in the disc as well as the balance to spin at that speed and burn accurately. At the same time, burners do usually have an optimal burn speed rather than slow=best.



    ummm...no. If anything, older CD players have weaker lasers. The CD-R problem you're having is either leaving the CDs in direct sunlight (are you using one of those visor storage things?) or they are warping from getting too hot. Then again, I'm not even sure I buy that they are overheating as I have a 2002 car and I've had a CD-R in the drive for well over a year (maybe 1 1/2?) and it still boots up first try in the rare instances I use it (got an iPhone a year ago so I've been playing music from that).



    as I asked and you didn't respond:

    are you testing games back to back with real and CD-R copies? every game is different when it comes to loading.
    I copyed Corpse Killer 32x CD and it wouldnt even load to the sega screen
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