Rockman X3 Genesis/Megadrive

[tazvag]

This is the well known port of Megaman X3 for the SNES. It is tested and working. I'm asking $90 for it shipped within the US.

Thanks for looking!

[sean]

Man I have been looking for the pirate but, I do not have the cash for it.

[Riffman81]

Man I have been looking for the pirate but, I do not have the cash for it.

I second that! I've searched the net many, many times for this! $90... seems a little steep for a 'pirate'. However, being the Mega Man fanatic that I am... I'd probably pick this one up if I had that much to spend on video games. (Although I'm sure this would just piss the 'ol' lady' off big time!!)

[tazvag]

I'm selling this going off what I've seen this and other elusive pirate carts sell for. But I don't consider the fact that it's a pirate relevant since it's a very rare game regardless.

[tazvag]

Take note I said I'm "asking" for $90. So If anyone has an offer that isn't too isn't lowballing it too much from that price then feel free to PM me!

[ShadowDancer]

I second that! I've searched the net many, many times for this! $90... seems a little steep for a 'pirate'. However, being the Mega Man fanatic that I am... I'd probably pick this one up if I had that much to spend on video games. (Although I'm sure this would just piss the 'ol' lady' off big time!!)

wow a fellow kentuckian!

[64k]

mmmmm chicken.

Regardless though tis still a pirate.

[Smii]

mmmmm chicken.

Regardless though tis still a pirate.

Yes, and expensive reproductions are still 'only' repros - and much easier to get hold of, too. I hadn't noticed any such negativity in those threads, so just curious as to what you think the difference is? :P

[64k]

Yes, and expensive reproductions are still 'only' repros - and much easier to get hold of, too. I hadn't noticed any such negativity in those threads, so just curious as to what you think the difference is? :P

*Sigh*

I wasn't after a debate, was stating how I feel a pirate cart is not worth $90, concidering it only was probably worth only £10 or so new as it just a pirate.

Repros don't usually have much resale value I feel, the one usually selling said repros had to create the cover, manual, doner cart, procure the items needed to burn the roms and the acquire the ROM chips also incuring a greater cost than what somebody holding onto a pirate cart would be.

so cost of holding onto a cart = origonal purchase price, and if you pay over the odds for a pirate cart yous a fool.

Cost of building a cart = £20 upwards depending on quality + time & effort and then making enough to cover price of flashing equipment, not to mention initial investment.

and hence no critical comments were made because he's open to offers and states as much, tis not a smite just an observational comment.


what say you?

[Smii]

I wasn't after a debate, was stating how I feel a pirate cart is not worth $90, concidering it only was probably worth only £10 or so new as it just a pirate.

You are aware that this game was never officially released on the MD, right? And it's pretty hard to find, for whatever reason - at least where I've been looking. I'd agree with you if this was just a tacky bootleg of a released game, but it's more interesting than that.

Cost of building a cart = £20 upwards depending on quality + time & effort and then making enough to cover price of flashing equipment, not to mention initial investment.

I know the cost and effort that goes into making them - I was just wondering why you'd comment on X3 being "just a pirate", since you don't have any problem with repros. Nicely produced or not, they're essentially the same thing.

Repros don't usually have much resale value I feel

Heh. Perhaps if you're honest, and price them fairly - but there are plenty of gits on evilbay who lie about the repros they have - pretend they're originals, or "Uber Rare Unreleased Games!!!!!" - and make lots of £££.

no critical comments were made because he's open to offers and states as much, tis not a smite just an observational comment.

I don't generally begrudge anyone their opinions (no matter how wrong they are ;P), but this is a sales thread. In some places your comment would be considered thread-crapping, and against the rules - and even if it's not here, it's still unnecessary and kind of rude. I didn't particularly want a debate either, your comment just irritated me a little (for reasons which are probably clear by now) and considering your other posts here, I wondered why you'd say it. Zatsall.

[64k]

Im nay crapping on said thread, I think anything above like $50 is way to much for a pirate cart. I agree it is an interesting cart I know its history I used to own it a moon or two ago, could say the same about Lion King II.

I don't have a problem with either Repros or Pirate carts, but if in the other threads Megaman 'WW' was going for $45 - $60. Had it been going for $90, id be all like "thats a lil' too high'

Besides, was a passing throw away comment, as I had concidered purchasing it but that had put me off, and would of been mentioned but I decided to leave in ambiguous and still allow for the BUMP without trashing all over the thread.

I think people need to think about selling something for $90 that clearly isn't worth it as someone without prior knowledge etc would be all like "Sweet Megaman for $90" and then be fuxed when they get it...regardless of hypertheticals, since it was offer based I left it as is.

If you have a problem with "thread crapping" argue with the dude that stated "its abit steep for a pirate"

as mine was nowhere near that bad, just because a "ive been looking for this" was tagged onto the beginning dosn't make it any better.


*edit*

Sorry I didn't see the evil bay comment, yes I agree I completely hate people with a convincing repro and sell it on for a mass profit. I too am very much against this. I think if someones selling something was above board they should be told as much! after all your only helping you fellow buddys/forum members? I shopped someone for selling a 'genesis' rockman wily wars on ebay as authentic..those my friend are the bastards an I agree.

But I digress, I think he needs to evaluate what this cart is really worth.

[tazvag]

I get where you're coming from 64k. I feel the same when I see people sell pirates sometimes. It's just different when you actually acquire something yourself and know that its something elusive. I'm pretty sure if this game has ever sold on this forum in the past my initial asking price here isn't too far off from what it sold at those times. Of course it's cheaper brand new in the country it came from. But outside that country it's much rarer thus worth more. Same for many Japanese games overseas. $50 or above for a pirate cart may sound like a lot, but it still has a certain franchise and level of rarity associated with it that gives each pirate game it's own value. I would say it's no different than crappy old unlicensed games for the NES people pay top dollar for(Action 52 comes to mind).

[Bramsworth]

Yeah, people need to stop labeling these things as "pirates", since that's a term better fit for unofficial copies of licensed games i.e a pirate cart of Sonic 3. Rockman X3 is just an unofficial port, but not what I'd consider a pirate. It's a shame, people go as far as to call things such as Barver Battle Saga a pirate, which is just misinformed. It's unlicensed, just as much as Spiritual Warfare on NES is not a pirate but also unlicensed.

Repros on the other hand ARE pirates, and there's no other way of looking at it. I guess since it's a more tightly knit community thing rather than an illegal copy of something you run into on the streets gives it a different image to some, but it's still bootlegging/pirating. You can make the argument that the people making repros are trying to recouperate costs of the equipment and materials needed and such, but for how long can that hold before they've made enough money selling the stuff? Eventually they'd have made back what the equipment cost. Face it, I see people that sell repros not only doing this cuz they need to get it off their hands, but because they see a profit in repeatedly producing these repros aka pirates. If they weren't seeking profit then different games wouldn't have different prices. See my point? Pirates or not, the game itself and the name attached to it, that's ultimately deciding if it's gonna cost a lot or not.

All that said, going by my personal view of a lot of Taiwanese games(since it's what I mainly collect and I'm familiar with them), I'd price this game around $40 or so. Do you see it often for sale? No, I doubt it. So I wouldn't think anyone else can claim they know what it's worth, just because it's a "pirate." Most of these games are sold for like $5 or something in Taiwan, there's no denying it. I've sold stuff a few times for much more than I bought it for. Everyone does, because the item is rare over here. That's how it's worked for everything, including Japanese imports.

Or I guess that doesn't apply to Taiwanese "pirates" just because they're...pirates? I'm not seeing how that's fair, but to each their own. Meanwhile repros of lots of games made the same way are being sold yet have price differences, and no one complains. That's less of a problem I guess?

[Smii]

Im nay crapping on said thread, I think anything above like $50 is way to much for a pirate cart. I agree it is an interesting cart I know its history I used to own it a moon or two ago, could say the same about Lion King II.

It's just a matter of opinion.
But what does "it's a pirate cart" have to do with anything, anyway? That doesn't change the fact that it's still a hard to find Megadrive game.

I don't have a problem with either Repros or Pirate carts, but if in the other threads Megaman 'WW' was going for $45 - $60. Had it been going for $90, id be all like "thats a lil' too high'

Fair enough, then. But.

I think people need to think about selling something for $90 that clearly isn't worth it as someone without prior knowledge etc would be all like "Sweet Megaman for $90" and then be fuxed when they get it...regardless of hypertheticals, since it was offer based I left it as is...

I think he needs to evaluate what this cart is really worth.

Yeah, but that was kind of the point - "it's too much" is your opinion, but not everyone would think the same. Surely it's up to the OP what to sell his property for, and it's up to others to decide for themselves whether to pay it or not? I know it wasn't just you btw, everyone who commented up thar did the same thing - potentially "helpful" or not, it might still be called thread-crapping.

At the risk of ramble-ranting: repros and "pirate" carts are both "worthless" in theory, and acquired for similar reasons (translations/unreleased ROMS aside, I guess) - so how can the same person point at a tatty old bootleg cart and go "uurgh, worthless peg-legged sea-thief!" but be completely fine with handing over X amount of money for more professional looking repros? Aesthetics aside, they are still basically the same thing - and it's wrong to pretend otherwise.
Fwiw, I'm not dead set against repros - I know they require effort to make, look nice, etc - one of the reasons I signed up here was for an English-language Bratwurst repro of MWIV, and even now I'd consider picking up repros of a couple of unreleased games. (This was also to do with why I posted here at all, just wanted to finish venting :/)

Sorry I didn't see the evil bay comment, yes I agree I completely hate people with a convincing repro and sell it on for a mass profit.

Right now, this pisses me off. But it also has nothing to do with Megaman etc -- so I'll leave it at that and go away now.

Edit:
Didn't see Bramsworth's post saying similar stuff! Oh well, everyone likes waffles.

[JRedmond3]

I saw a boxed copy of this the other day, guess I shoulda bought it.