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    Funny how this went from a SoundChip appreciation thread to a Tim Follin appreciation thread.

    Even more funny is how that's not surprising at all
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    Awesome threads lately :-) The Commodore 64's SID chip is one that gets a lot of attention. I like it except for the trilly sound that's used so much to get around the limited voices (I guess). Have to admit, I can't stand the Giana Sisters' theme, though...gets under my skin for some reason.

    I don't have any good links off the top of my head...I bet there are some C64 fans here, though :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    Funny how this went from a SoundChip appreciation thread to a Tim Follin appreciation thread.

    Even more funny is how that's not surprising at all

    He's really good ,too bad he left the industry.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yoder View Post
    Awesome threads lately :-) The Commodore 64's SID chip is one that gets a lot of attention. I like it except for the trilly sound that's used so much to get around the limited voices (I guess). Have to admit, I can't stand the Giana Sisters' theme, though...gets under my skin for some reason.

    I don't have any good links off the top of my head...I bet there are some C64 fans here, though :-)
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    How about some emotional themes now:

    YM2612:


    SPC700(S-SMP):


    HuC6280(SoundBox):


    YM2151:


    Paula:


    Direct Sound A and B?:


    Need one for the YM2610 :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomaitheous View Post
    Are you giving tribute to the characteristic an classic sounds of the chips? Or how they can be pushed to the limits?

    For stock NES (no additional sound hardware), I thought this was one of the more impressive tunes on it:




    PCE's audio chip is just an upgraded version of that SCC chip. Suspiciously strange as neither are officially linked by any developers or such, that I know of. Even more strange, the hidden noise channel modes discovered later on for this chip (for both channel 5 and 6) and never officially described or used, are there exactly and officially on the PCE's version (channel 5 and 6). Both came out in the same year too. On that note, someone needs to come up with a name for the PCE's audio chip, instead of just 6280 (which is the cpu name). PCFX has the same chip, minus the cpu part, and labels it "SoundBox". /nitpick_on Wavetable is the wrong name for the description of the SCC chip. It's sample based synth. Or better put, since the waveforms are tiny: DDS (Direct Digital Synthesis) sans the PHA (uses period divide instead of phase accumulator, but that's just a matter of the method of precision and scaling the frequency). /nitpick_off
    I'd hit that tune like Charlie Brown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    Paula:
    According to the video description, that's a MIDI remake. The original, I think, is here:

    Erm... stuff?

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    Thanks Blammo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    How about some emotional themes now:

    Need one for the YM2610 :P
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    A little too... Happy. Very nice tune though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    A little too... Happy. Very nice tune though.
    Really, I find the song kind of sad, it's for the first level, where you fly over a destroyed city.


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    Where is the redbook audio tribute....ill post a lot in that thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curryman123 View Post
    Where is the redbook audio tribute....ill post a lot in that thread.
    Go ahead and make one.Redbook isn't made on the chip, in my opinion it's more impressive to make music on a chip, especially where programming is needed.

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    Here's another sound chip to add the list: the Yamaha YM3812.

    Song courtesy of Zero Wing(it was recorded off a SoundBlaster Pro 2.0 with a Yamaha YMF262, but the YMF262 is backwards-compatible with the YM3812, so the sound is the same regardless of which chip is used):



    And more from the YM2151 courtesy of Salamander and Life Force:

    Power of Anger:



    Poison of Snake:



    Destroy Them All:



    Thunderbolt:



    First two were ripped from Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus for the PlayStation and the last two were recorded using a modified version of MAME's emulated YM2151.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    This list features no shitty generic PSG chips like those found on the amstrad cpc or the Atari ST, screw them and their uninteresting music.
    Hmm...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3Cc5erCuE


    And if you're going to include a CPU driven PWM title demo tune on the beeper . . .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Uy69Jjk9M
    (YM2149 MOD Atari ST Turrican II intro )
    (plenty of other examples of that)

    There's even more demos after the fact and the 3 channel Spectrum sample tracker.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    Hehehe, not really, I'm not a big fan of POKEY.
    You know what's sad though? I like it more than the YM2149F used on the Atari-ST. If anyone knows of any game that uses the STE's extra pcm channels available on youtube please add it.
    You don't like the AY/YM or POKEY in games, or demos?

    POKEY didn't get a real chance due to the lack of supported as such in the long term. (ie no PCM, no PWM, etc in commercial games in spite of the nice built-in timers and 4-bit linear volume modulation )

    Adlib got lots of support, but was used poorly far too often, and soundblaster never (or almost never) used the PCM channel to supplement FM in music. (a few games pushed MOD without FM, but that's a bit of a waste)
    Few games pushed the OPL3 either, and none to its full potential, and that's what homebrew and demos are for.
    http://battleofthebits.org/barracks/Profile/madbrain/
    (there's a better profile on 8bc, but that's down it seems)

    And if you want to include homebrew game music, that's another story too, especially for POKEY.

    At least there's some pretty nice ST/Speccy/CPC tunes from European games. (Turrican II even pushed in-game PCM percussion in a few cases)

    Though I don't think any game pushed it like this:
    http://battleofthebits.org/arena/Entry/Polaracer/3617/
    (doesn't seem to be using any PWM effects either, though that's certainly something that far too few games took advantage of, or more so the envelope channel hack -and that's not CPU intensive either, unlike PCM or PWM)

    Turrican II has some pretty nice arrangements though, I'm not sure what the "best" example of classic AY/YM PSG music would be though. (but I'm sure it would kick the crap out of the best SN76489 stuff )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmI2XZ0PBzQ

    For the stock NES, Top Gun 2nd Mission is pretty awesome:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7tDV2pxRz8


    And with Codemasters you got a style rarely seen on the NES . . . makes it sound like a C64
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ruaLiGfkA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTSG6u0fmE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcY0G7Ha0Y (see the high score theme at 5:00)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahl View Post
    Hehehe, not really, I'm not a big fan of POKEY.
    You know what's sad though? I like it more than the YM2149F used on the Atari-ST. If anyone knows of any game that uses the STE's extra pcm channels available on youtube please add it.

    Classic sound in the sense that the music was used in games, no demo tunes or anything.
    Officially released homebrew games included or just "classic" games?


    Oh, and does the MT-32/LAPC-I count?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-XLZbvFEhI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm6spY_O9bM


    http://www.yvan256.net/soundcards/sa...r_-_LAPC-1.mp3
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilevoix View Post
    the PCE, that system has no extra silicone for music, how many resources are used to make music and it has less sprites than the MD on screen at once but a larger sprite area?

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    Not sure what the Gameboy chip is called, but it can pump out some awesome stuff.I used to listen to these when i first got my GBC.

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    Here's some stuff from his NES days, you can here some C64 influence there again.



    Here's a video some of his various works through the years


    He's very good, but I haven't heard anything from him in years.

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