Soundchip Tribute

[kokujin]

Tons of awsome tunes in the other PC-8801 Etrian Odyssey games too . . . it's odd, but wiki makes no mention of those games on the Etrian Odyssey pages. (only the new DS games)

The DS versions aren't the actual PC-8801 tracks, but they're available on the CD's if you buy them.

[kool kitty89]

The DS versions aren't the actual PC-8801 tracks, but they're available on the CD's if you buy them.

No, I mean there's no mention of the series being originally for the PC-8801, unless that "OST" is actually a series of remixes. (sort of a misnomer for "OST")



On another note:
Awesome POKEY tune used in an actual classic game, albeit canceled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfo-tUHP7_o


Some really well optimized 4-bit PCM samples in there. (sounds like a pretty decent sample rate too)

[kokujin]

No, I mean there's no mention of the series being originally for the PC-8801, unless that "OST" is actually a series of remixes. (sort of a misnomer for "OST")

Koshiro made the soundtrack for the Etrian Odyssey games on an actual PC-8801 and made tweaks here and there to make it work on the DS.That's why the soundtracks are 2 discs, one with the ds version and one with the raw original PC-8801 tracks.The series was never on the PC-8801.

[roundwars]

Koshiro made the soundtrack for the Etrian Odyssey games on an actual PC-8801 and made tweaks here and there to make it work on the DS.That's why the soundtracks are 2 discs, one with the ds version and one with the raw original PC-8801 tracks.The series was never on the PC-8801.

Wow, that's really cool. I wish that sort of thing was more common.

[kokujin]

Wow, that's really cool. I wish that sort of thing was more common.

I would kill to make this standard, we would get a lot less movie scores and more video game music.

[kool kitty89]

Koshiro made the soundtrack for the Etrian Odyssey games on an actual PC-8801 and made tweaks here and there to make it work on the DS.That's why the soundtracks are 2 discs, one with the ds version and one with the raw original PC-8801 tracks.The series was never on the PC-8801.

Wow, you don't see that every day for commercial games.

I'm not sure if that would count under the original guidelines of this thread though. (but it does fit the "classic" game music side of things)

[Kamahl]

Well, the right thing to do would be to replace the song (since it's not a classic game on the system), but I'll leave it there for a while, if someone finds a good replacement, then I'll take care of it .

[kokujin]

Just as long as it's the PC-8801 versions, those were made on a real PC-8801.

[kool kitty89]

The not so great AY-3-8910:

This song is from Lethal Xcess, it seems to be a re-mastering of the ST version, not a problem since there's an STe version as well.
I'm really liking this one, I should give the AY-3-8912 (aka YM2149F in this case) a better chance.

I took another look at this, that's not a remix, it's just a high quality recoding from real hardware (maybe with some touch ups and bass boost or such -I didn't see specifics), but it's definitely the original music with the same quality samples. (definitely the best quality ST recordings on YT that I've seen)

I'm not really sure what the STe version of Lethal Xcess (or Wings of Death) actually does, the samples don't seem to be higher quality (maybe some of the speech), but the music seems to be the same. (the blitter is apparently used too, but the enhancements are subtle -smoother movement and animation, but not a massive difference -the ST versions seem pretty well optimized for the machine -it being a vertically scrolling game probably is a big part of that too)

That guy (renegadeplatinum) had a bunch of high quality "remastered" ST soundtrack recordings. (including Turrican II and Wings of Death)

Like these nice examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6mTfwnPj_k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFruMHh01_0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn1cbDSHpNc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jibTF5BpVUk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ow4Yd4ZXTA (I think this may be my favorite Turrican II chiptune on the ST)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ow4Yd4ZXTA (pretty damn good too)


These 2 aren't among the best in the game IMO, but very recognizable (given how they're from early levels), and again, I haven't heard them recorded in this quality before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr1gK4sZcfU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swc3mX7oxUg

[Kamahl]

I've played a bit of lethal excess on Steem, those remastered tracks are actualy worse IMO. They sound kinda "muffled".
I also listened to these guys:
http://www.creamhq.de/ymrockerz/
Damn they're good. They have tracks that sound much better than anything I've heard on the SID.

[Crackdown]

I havn't seen any love for Mikey yet, for those who don't know Mikey is the sound chip from the Atari Lynx.

It is perhaps best known for pulling off almost unbelievably good speech samples but could also do some great tunes when used right. There dosn't actually seem to be any Lynx music posted on You Tube but here are some vids of games with good music.

First up: Shadow Of The Beast - Really melodic and fits the game perfectly



Next is Double Dragon - Really nice renditions of what has become one of my all time favourite video game soundtracks. It does sound slightly off in this video due to emulation.



Ninja Gaiden - As heard coming from real hardware!



Zarlor Mercenary - Unfortunately emulated again and he cuts off the game music part the way in which is a great shame as the tunes on this game are beautiful.



And of course the brilliant California Games - the music for the surfing is a massive favourite among us Lynx fans.

[Kamahl]

Thanks for adding another soundchip to the thread .

[zetastrike]

Some of my favorites-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Mp8uMammw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qH9F...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wWHZE14hP8

Why does everyone praise that stupid bramble song so much? I don't get it, it's slow and boring. I actually think DKC3 had the most interesting music of the series. It wasn't all slow ambient crap.

[kool kitty89]

I've played a bit of lethal excess on Steem, those remastered tracks are actualy worse IMO. They sound kinda "muffled".
I also listened to these guys:
http://www.creamhq.de/ymrockerz/
Damn they're good. They have tracks that sound much better than anything I've heard on the SID.

I think they may be filtered. (I think all the "remastering" may be is filtering effects added to the native ST output -seems to mainly aim at bass boost)
However, I haven't seen any other high quality recordings of those tracks on YT at all.

Heh, that's one of the issues that came up in my PC sound thread. (except it's normal "good" SB cards that have heavy filtering -like Ace's Pro 2.0 and Tiido's YMF71x- and DOSBox with the super clear unfiltered un-artifacted output -as mentioned over there, the SB AWE-64 sounds pretty close to DOSBox too -definitely less filtering than most others and pretty accurate sound, not sure if the OPL3 clone actually improves anything -modification of the DAC and digital filtering, etc)

Tiido prefers DOSBox for that reason (in spite of inaccuracies), Ace was complaining about unfiltered sound being "tinny" . . . in some cases (as with the MD) that's true, but always with advantages too. (in X-Wing's case, there's no detriment IMO, just much nicer, cleaner FM percussion and a stronger lead -the bass notes are still very heavy without filtering, but less overwhelming)

Why does everyone praise that stupid bramble song so much? I don't get it, it's slow and boring. I actually think DKC3 had the most interesting music of the series. It wasn't all slow ambient crap.

If this is some of that "slow ambient crap" of which you speak, then sign me up for more of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Is7-Om7Fs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDvKwSVuUGA

(I prefer life in the mines, but Aquatic Ambience is nice and very fitting for that level)

And for DKC 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3pL9A7Nk4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P82DWBr3ZkY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYFyJA_4jVo (neat YM2151 arrangement of that track)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGHQ5iBJkzA


I do agree about bramble though, it's pretty bland. (I like the ambient stuff with the "haunting" quality to it, but some is just plain boring)

Of course there's a lot of great tracks that aren't so "ambient" like so:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS7_tcwsj4E

(though it does have some cool slow spots where it starts to go ambient and then transition back to more energetic music)

I don't like the Ambient stuff that doesn't have a good lead melody to it . . . then again there's some non "ambeint" stuff that's also weaker because of that. (I like the melody Afterburner tracks much, much more than the non-melodic ones -enough that the PC-Engine version sounds better than the 32x version to me )



I don't recall many really notably good DKC3 tracks, what ones were you thinking of?

[Thenewguy]

Pfft, Stickerbrush Symphony "Bramble Blast" is easily one of the best tunes of the entire 16-bit generation.