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    Quote Originally Posted by fr@ser View Post
    Excellent!
    One thing i'll mention about most of the sms repros ,is the majority use the wrong shade of blue for the sega font ,it's too light.It's closer to the light shade that sega used for the jpn mega drive "sega" font.But the sms used a deeper shade of blue, # 09215d in abobe photoshop .
    Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. Though I think the reason why the templates use a lighter blue is because when the covers are printed they always come out darker than how they look on screen, so you need to compensate a little with the colours. Either way, when I get a chance I'll try printing both and see how they look. Thanks for the info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yfrid View Post
    I did this some months ago and completely forgot about it then..





    i know that SMS cover's artwork is used to be letterboxed, but CoolSpot inspired me to do it this way
    http://www.emuparadise.me/fup/up/889...(Europe)-1.jpg
    Oh shit man, that is awesome! I was going to make one myself but couldn't find any cover artwork, but this totally saves me the trouble. Looks pretty sweet man, I'll definitely use this if I ever find someone that can make SMS repros.
    Ready to print game covers and cart labels: http://www.mediafire.com/?5gm45wyxr3xvv

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    I would love that Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble repro if it used the European cover artwork instead of the North American one.

    Sadly, the only good source image that there's around (which comes from Sonic the Hedgehog The Screen Saver) sticks with the North American artwork.

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    Maybe now we can have some nice SMS covers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjey View Post
    Today i bringt you a better scan from the german magazin "GAMERS 11/95". Is shows you the covers of the unreleased games "Mr Nutz 2" and "Putty Squad".
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    thanks.

    It is very sad, that Roms are still not available.
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    Hmm more Ocean games that didn't get released along with Lobo and Jelly Boy. I wonder how complete these were...
    Mr. Nutz 2 was fully completed and a working ROM is known to be in hands of Peter Thierolf, co-founder and main programmer of NEON Studios. He doesn't want to release it because of possible issues with Infogrames/Atari, current owners of the Mr. Nutz brand, no matter if they don't care a shit about the license any more. There's also some game source code that was leaked two years ago along with Amiga Turrican 3 source code (another NEON product), but it is incomplete and cannot be compiled onto a ROM.

    Putty Squad was supposed to be quite completed, since it was reviewed by several European magazines back in the day. The only known existing ROM of this one is indeed in the hands of famed proto collector drx, but his version seems to be pretty early compared with the review copies that were developed and sent to mags back in 1995. He also has an allegedly early ROM of Ocean's The Flintstones movie game, which was also unreleased aside from its short-lived presence in the North American Sega Channel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebbe View Post
    I wrote to the Putty Squad developers, they said there was never a Mega Drive version in development even, it was just a "rumour".
    Yeah, they definitely have a point there.





    Would like to see what they do have to say about these "rumour" reviews.

    This means that either they don't have a ROM of the game any longer and can't remember a thing about their own past developments, or they are just trying to mask the thing away from people interested in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesker View Post
    I would love that Sonic the Hedgehog Triple Trouble repro if it used the European cover artwork instead of the North American one.

    Sadly, the only good source image that there's around (which comes from Sonic the Hedgehog The Screen Saver) sticks with the North American artwork.
    Doesn't the European version use the same art as the North American one? Or am I mistaken?

    Ready to print game covers and cart labels: http://www.mediafire.com/?5gm45wyxr3xvv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesker View Post
    Mr. Nutz 2 was fully completed and a working ROM is known to be in hands of Peter Thierolf, co-founder and main programmer of NEON Studios. He doesn't want to release it because of possible issues with Infogrames/Atari, current owners of the Mr. Nutz brand, no matter if they don't care a shit about the license any more. There's also some game source code that was leaked two years ago along with Amiga Turrican 3 source code (another NEON product), but it is incomplete and cannot be compiled onto a ROM.
    Mr. Nutz 2 should be a great one. I just loved the first game...
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    There were better games on the CD-i than there were on the 3DO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olls View Post
    That is definitely true. SNES games are overall more well-balanced. The Mega Drive has many more (extremely) difficult games for no other reason than bad game balance and sometimes shitty controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djshok View Post
    Doesn't the European version use the same art as the North American one? Or am I mistaken?



    Take a closer look and you'll notice how both Sonic and Knuckles are better shaped in the European version, trying to make them closer to their Japanese designs. That's the only significant difference, since both Dr. Eggman ( ) and Fang look identical and the rest of the landscape is pretty much the same.

    It's a little picky to point out such a small comestic difference (although for the better IMO) but since we are dealing with an European Master System cover repro, it should use the appropiate European artwork to be more accurate. Unfortunately, there's not a good source image for the European artwork unlike there is for the North American one.

    Quote Originally Posted by agostinhobaroners View Post
    Mr. Nutz 2 should be a great one. I just loved the first game...
    Add the fact that Mr. Nutz 2 (Mr. Nutz: Hoppin' Mad on the Amiga) is a much better game than the first one.
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    You just makes me crazy about this unreleased rom!

    I love the music in the first one on the Mega Drive. It was a Matt Furniss job.
    Do you know if he was in the second one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiespruce View Post
    There were better games on the CD-i than there were on the 3DO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olls View Post
    That is definitely true. SNES games are overall more well-balanced. The Mega Drive has many more (extremely) difficult games for no other reason than bad game balance and sometimes shitty controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agostinhobaroners View Post
    You just makes me crazy about this unreleased rom!

    I love the music in the first one on the Mega Drive. It was a Matt Furniss job.
    Do you know if he was in the second one?
    I'm not sure since that's something that has never been confirmed, but it's probably not.

    What Matt Furniss actually did in the Mega Drive version of Mr. Nutz was converting/rearranging the music originally composed by Raphaël Gesqua for the SNES version, which was done before the Mega Drive version. Matt did a pretty good conversion job still, but I guess he did it because the French based Ocean team that developed the first Mr. Nutz game, while still being able to port the game to the Mega Drive themselves (and sadly stripping a lot of fancy graphical effects in the process), couldn't do the music conversion in their own and Ocean hired Matt Furniss and the Krysalis music engine to handle it.

    The second Mr. Nutz game was done by different people altogether. This game was developed by German based NEON Studios first on the Amiga (as Mr. Nutz: Hoppin' Mad) and then they ported it themselves to the Mega Drive according to what Peter Thierolf has always said. It's unclear how the music was converted to the Mega Drive, but I tend to think that Rudolf Stember, the original Amiga version composer, actually did it himself by using the same Audios Wave Slave music engine that Chris Hülsbeck relied on, since the people at NEON and Factor 5 were so closely partened for all things development.

    Here's a couple of music tracks of Mr. Nutz: Hoppin' Mad (Mr. Nutz 2) on the Amiga.







    You'll notice how different this music is to the first Mr. Nutz game, more akin to the likes of computer based side scrollers like Turrican and Jazz Jackrabbit.
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    "I tend to think that Rudolf Stember, the original Amiga version composer, actually did it himself by using the same Audios Wave Slave music engine that Chris Hülsbeck relied on, since the people at NEON and Factor 5 were so closely partened for all development stuff."

    So I'm glad, 'cause Audios Wave Slave music engine is awesome.

    Great info, thanks! Rep given!
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    There were better games on the CD-i than there were on the 3DO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olls View Post
    That is definitely true. SNES games are overall more well-balanced. The Mega Drive has many more (extremely) difficult games for no other reason than bad game balance and sometimes shitty controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agostinhobaroners View Post
    Mr. Nutz 2 should be a great one. I just loved the first game...
    seconded!! mr nutz is 'cutesey' and annoying...but a dope game nonetheless!!

    aww man....id love a go on number 2!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesker View Post
    Would like to see what they do have to say about these "rumour" reviews.

    This means that either they don't have a ROM of the game any longer and can't remember a thing about their own past developments, or they are just trying to mask the thing away from people interested in the matter.
    Thanks for that research. I wrote to them again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by djshok View Post
    Oh shit man, that is awesome! I was going to make one myself but couldn't find any cover artwork, but this totally saves me the trouble. Looks pretty sweet man, I'll definitely use this if I ever find someone that can make SMS repros.
    Thanks!
    i did the cart label too, but i forgot(o rly?) to upload it yesterday

    I also prefer the European artwork more, but as Wesker said there's not a decent source for that to make a good repro out of it
    http://www.sega-16.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=27048&dateline=127929  0160

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    If GAMERS reviewed Putty Squad, the game was made. I have all issues of that mag, it was THE most relieable source for Sega games in Germany. If there is one magazine I have absolute trust in, it is GAMERS.

    If the devs say there was no MD version it was either made by an outside team, they forgot bbeause it was ages ago and only a port, or they lie.

    Nobody would be dumb enouh to pay for ad space for a game that is not even in development.

    The ad and the review together show that the game exists.
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