32X Playing Virtua Racing

[Ace]

I think we're missing a pull-down resistor on DTACK at the very least. Take note of the way RES is setup.

Know the value of said pull-down resistor or have a rough estimate of what its value should be?

What better way to force fans to buy 'Virtua Racing Deluxe'? Imagine buying 'Virtua Racing' in February of '94 for ~$100, then buying a 32X in November/December for ~$160 and finding out you needed to buy VRD for ~$60 or else you'd be doomed to the inconvenience of changing out the 32X for VR. That's ~$320 just to play one game conveniently!

That's what I figured. A bunch of bullshit.

[Chilly Willy]

That's what I figured. A bunch of bullshit.

It's not bullshit. It's one of the only things to use the line, and said game was superfluous given a better version of the game was available for less money.

Anywho, wanna bet that connecting the /DTACK line also allows the 10MB game cart to work? Without a CD, of course - just the 32X.

[chessage]

Know the value of said pull-down resistor or have a rough estimate of what its value should be?

Try values in the 4.7K to 7.5K range.

... said game was superfluous given a better version of the game was available for less money.

If you pretend the 32X wasn't needed.

[Chilly Willy]

If you pretend the 32X wasn't needed.

No, it's simply acknowledging that people would have the 32X for whatever reason... maybe they got it specifically to play Star Wars Arcade... and now that they had the 32X, a better, cheaper VR was now available for them.

[Ace]

Take note of the way RES is setup.

Just to be sure: is RES the signal connected via that orange wire?

[Bones Justice]

I guess I don't understand the argument that some wiring forced me into buy Virtua Racing Deluxe. It didn't. Deluxe is an awesome game that I wanted even though I already had the Genesis version. It's not just better looking, it has extra cars and tracks, too.

[chessage]

No, it's simply acknowledging that people would have the 32X for whatever reason... maybe they got it specifically to play Star Wars Arcade... and now that they had the 32X...

... There was no escape.

Just to be sure: is RES the signal connected via that orange wire?

"Red/orange".

I guess I don't understand the argument that some wiring forced me into buy Virtua Racing Deluxe. It didn't. Deluxe is an awesome game that I wanted even though I already had the Genesis version. It's not just better looking, it has extra cars and tracks, too.

Best $320 you ever spent?

[Chilly Willy]

Best $320 you ever spent?

Try $50. I already had the 32X for other reasons, and VR was one of the $10 coupons SEGA included with the purchase of the 32X.

[chessage]

Try $50. I already had the 32X for other reasons, and VR was one of the $10 coupons SEGA included with the purchase of the 32X.

That doesn't matter. The cost of the 32X must be accounted for since it's an accessory that the game required in order to work.

Virtua Racing + SVP = ~$100
Virtua Racing Deluxe + 32X = ~$210 (after $10 coupon)

You'd need to buy about four ~$50 32X games before the combined cost would sink below $100 per game. Unfortunately, most 32X games were closer to $60 if not more.

[Drakon]

That doesn't matter. The cost of the 32X must be accounted for since it's an accessory that the game required in order to work.

Virtua Racing + SVP = ~$100
Virtua Racing Deluxe + 32X = ~$210 (after $10 coupon)

You'd need to buy about four ~$50 32X games before the combined cost would sink below $100 per game. Unfortunately, most 32X games were closer to $60 if not more.

Hence why I waited umpteen years for a genesis flash cart that conveniently also loads 32x roms and just bought myself a 32$ for around 40$ shipped....also thanks to tiido and other forum members the 32x turned out to be the ultimate way to get s-video from a genesis.

I really am curious how far the 32x would have gone if sega hadn't dropped support for it. I love my 32x but there's a reason why I waited forever to get one.....mostly lack of amazing games...

[Chilly Willy]

That doesn't matter. The cost of the 32X must be accounted for since it's an accessory that the game required in order to work.

Yes, it does matter.

Virtua Racing + SVP = ~$100
Virtua Racing Deluxe + 32X = ~$210 (after $10 coupon)

You'd need to buy about four ~$50 32X games before the combined cost would sink below $100 per game. Unfortunately, most 32X games were closer to $60 if not more.

And why are you including the price of VR-SVP? If you have that and like it, just remove the 32X when you want to play it - it's not like the 32X is permanently affixed. It's simplicity itself to pop it off, switch the cable, and you're good to go. It's like ten seconds work, if that much.

You're just blathering to hear your own voice. You're wrong - accept it and move on.

[chessage]

Yes, it does matter.

It would if you had proper evidence to back up your claim.

And why are you including the price of VR-SVP?

Because, that $100 cost goes towards both a Virtua Racing ROM and the SVP. They just happen to be included in one standalone package.

If you have that and like it, just remove the 32X when you want to play it - it's not like the 32X is permanently affixed. It's simplicity itself to pop it off, switch the cable, and you're good to go. It's like ten seconds work, if that much.

Or solder one wire in a few minutes and have one more reason to just leave it hooked up.

You're just blathering to hear your own voice. You're wrong - accept it and move on.

You've been covering your ears shouting "I'm right! I'm right! I'm right!", while I've both listened & presented evidence for my claim without attacking you personally. The least you could do is act with the same courtesy.

[Chilly Willy]

You've been covering your ears shouting "I'm right! I'm right! I'm right!", while I've both listened & presented evidence for my claim without attacking you personally. The least you could do is act with the same courtesy.

Sorry, you're clearly confusing yourself for me. YOU'RE the one ignoring common sense and evidence while yelling "I'm right!" Your whole post was you doing just that very thing.

[Drakon]

I've had maaaaany conversations with chilly willy over pm and I can vouch he is nothing but courteous and friendly.

[Chilly Willy]

Look - I'm just going to say sorry if I have offended anyone, including chessage. I'm just going to ignore this particular line of the thread at this point. It's detracting from the main point of the thread - you can play VR-SVP on the 32X now!!