Best way to burn games?

[ThugsRook]

This thread is murky and confusing as hell. lol

What exactly was bad? Are you saying the audio / index was changed in the interest of emulation? (I don't emulate so I don't really know about it, but people seem to be saying that such changes are made to facilitate emulation, right?) I also don't know anything about Darkwater or Redump.

the audio track(s) and/or audio index is bad/corrupted in some way.

I'm the only person i know of that "fixes" SEGA CD images for proper emulation, and i dont distribute my files.

I download ISO's from EMUPARADISE and they have all seemed fine AFAIK...
So you're saying that the only way to verify it, is if you already know exactly what it is supposed to be in the 1st place?
So that means there is no practical way to verify it???

some are bad, but that doesnt mean they wont play.

yup.

exactly, there is NO WAY to verify CD dumps.

[Lastcallhall]

FWIW, I've used the "Genuine & Tested" images from underground-gamer.com and they all play fine on original hardware.

[AlecRob]

FWIW, I've used the "Genuine & Tested" images from underground-gamer.com and they all play fine on original hardware.

Too bad underground gamer wont let me register because their user limit is maxed out...

[APE]

Old school Plextor+Verbatims+4-8x.

Works for me and I don't give a damn about what anyone else thinks as it is apparent that this is the same sort of craziness audiophiles jump through hoops with.

Too bad underground gamer wont let me register because their user limit is maxed out...

Even if you were sent an invite? I believe I have a full satchel worth.

[Chilly Willy]

agostinhobaroners pointed out to me (correctly) that I was a bit of a dick in my last post (he more more polite about it than that), so I'd like to apologize. He's correct in that one person's experience doesn't not mean it's ALWAYS so. There are other factors at work. Perhaps the difference in the drive guts means one person has more success with one type of disc than another, or low speed vs high speed. For example - maybe at some point, they ran out of the original drive guts for fixing SCDs, so they switched to a newer drive gut. I could see such a drive handling high-speed CDRs just fine.

So if one way doesn't work, try the other. Maybe that WILL work better.

[Ecco]

the audio track(s) and/or audio index is bad/corrupted in some way.

I'm the only person i know of that "fixes" SEGA CD images for proper emulation, and i dont distribute my files.



some are bad, but that doesnt mean they wont play.

yup.

exactly, there is NO WAY to verify CD dumps.

OK so what is the solution then? I certainly don't want lame, damaged / corrupted Sega CD's. lol

Also, what kind of damage is present, in concrete terms? Would most Sega CD's (burned from ISO downloads) have messed up soundtracks, and how so? For example, would the music have poor quality, or have static added to it, or something like that?

[Barone]

agostinhobaroners pointed out to me (correctly) that I was a bit of a dick in my last post (he more more polite about it than that), so I'd like to apologize. He's correct in that one person's experience doesn't not mean it's ALWAYS so. There are other factors at work. Perhaps the difference in the drive guts means one person has more success with one type of disc than another, or low speed vs high speed. For example - maybe at some point, they ran out of the original drive guts for fixing SCDs, so they switched to a newer drive gut. I could see such a drive handling high-speed CDRs just fine.

So if one way doesn't work, try the other. Maybe that WILL work better.

Yep, and I was a bit snarky. Sorry.

Well, the KSS210A (my Mega CD 2's laser assembly) seems to be used in a plethora of other devices, so it can be a more "general purpose" drive than the other models used in Mega CD model 1 and some Mega CD model 2.
It's pure speculation though...

[ThugsRook]

OK so what is the solution then? I certainly don't want lame, damaged / corrupted Sega CD's. lol

Also, what kind of damage is present, in concrete terms? Would most Sega CD's (burned from ISO downloads) have messed up soundtracks, and how so? For example, would the music have poor quality, or have static added to it, or something like that?

in BIN+CUE format, damage would consist of various minor issues...

noise (quips & quirks)
incorrect indexing (start and/or stop of track is wrong)
static
broken tracks
blank tracks
no tracks
excessive blank space between tracks
out-of-sync tracks
etc.

the solution: download somewhat guarenteed dumps, or learn how to check and verify dumps and cue sheets yourself manually.

[Ecco]

OK so what "somewhat guaranteed dumps" can you recommend? People mentioned one website that doesn't accept new members except by invitation, apparently. At least EMUPARADISE lets anyone use it and download anything, but it's not a recommended site, is it?

Using ISO's I downloaded from there, I haven't noticed any of those described problems... Doesn't mean they're not there, but I haven't noticed anything like that (without fully knowing the commercial releases, to compare them to).

[Barone]

edgeemu is better than emuparadise IMO.

[ThugsRook]

edgeemu is better than emuparadise IMO.

edgeemu and emuparadise have the same dumps. (the 12-24-96 dumps)

[Barone]

edgeemu and emuparadise have the same dumps. (the 12-24-96 dumps)

What's "12-24-96"?
Edgeemu has several JP dumps that are missing on the emuparadise. It's far better for PCE CD dumps too.
I don't remember having problems with any of edge's dumps on my Mega CD.

[Cholkavich]

I use IMGBurn with no problems. I use bin/cue files only though.

[TMP]

If memory serves me right, when I used Nero to burn the japanese only games that were never released in the US with a converted bios file, the slowest speed it could go was 4x, which I set it to when I burned them, but I'm still worried the system can get damaged from playing CD-R discs, and haven't been playing them that much. I also have a copy of Battle Frenzy which I bought from Good Deal Games which is also obviously a CD-R I can tell, but I don't know what speed they burned it at when I ordered it.

[KnightWarrior]

Why doesn't Lunar: TSS don't go past the Title Screen?? I tried 2 CD-R's..