Did you ever stop following the gaming scene?

[Zoltor]

I do believe that this generation is a mixed bag for sure. I love the fact that my PS3 and 360 are great media players and are useful for much more than games, and that indie and downloadable titles have brought back and/or helped genres that otherwise would have had no place in this generation of consoles. As much as I love a franchise like Bomberman, if the ability to have a purely download-based medium did not exist the only Bomberman I'd be able to play would have been Act Zero, and I'd probably be in prison for some unspeakable acts if that were the case.

On the other hand the whole "Release it and then make sure its actually playable," followed by a series of patches B.S. is a real low point. Also we are starting to get away from actually "owning" video games and merely holding a license to play titles, and I don't think its really clear how all of this stuff will work once these consoles are no longer supported online.

I don't anticipate NOT being around for the next generation of consoles, but if Sony and Microsoft really drop the ball and make used sales verboten and put measures in place to limit the ability to play games I bought 5 or 10 years down the road I'll probably just punch out and drop a couple grand on a decent Saturn collection. Well that, a corn-cob pipe and a rocking chair so I can sit outside my house and tell all the young whipper-snappers how great gaming used to be.

Amen to that.

As far as I can tell, Nintendo has no plans of ever pulling such BS, so there's still some hope, but the future of the gaming industy as a whole looks very bleak indeed.

[Knuckle Duster]

Amen to that.

As far as I can tell, Nintendo has no plans of ever pulling such BS, so there's still some hope, but the future of the gaming industy as a whole looks very bleak indeed.

Nintendo just announced it is going digital distribution on full retail titles for Wii U & 3DS. So far their content is tied to hardware and not an account with the 3DS. They are stepping in the right direction but they are slow to adapt to the market.

Xbox Live, PSN, Steam, iTunes, Google... All of their content is portable and not completely locked to hardware.

Nintendo is a mess and they will need to streamline their digital strategy if they don't want to bleed money for the next few years. Not saying they will die like Sega, but they will get hammered hard if they don't modernize their networking and content distribution.... They just need to shit out a Pokemon MMO backed by a robust online service.... It could happen.

[Zoltor]

Nintendo just announced it is going digital distribution on full retail titles for Wii U & 3DS. So far their content is tied to hardware and not an account with the 3DS. They are stepping in the right direction but they are slow to adapt to the market.

Xbox Live, PSN, Steam, iTunes, Google... All of their content is portable and not completely locked to hardware.

Nintendo is a mess and they will need to streamline their digital strategy, if they don't want to bleed money for the next few years.

Where is this announcement huh. You are trying to claim Nintendo Isn't gonna make physical discs for games anymore? That is 100% unbelieveable.

OMG man we get it, you personally like all this digital only BS, and you would be perfectly fine with paying tons of money for something you don't own, and will very likely become unplayable at some time.

Nintendo Isn't a mess one bit, you must be completely hung over digital only, to have to think that Nintendo is a mess.

[Knuckle Duster]

Where is this announcement huh. You are trying to claim Nintendo Isn't gonna make physical discs for games anymore? That is 100% unbelieveable.

OMG man we get it, you personally like all this digital only BS, and you would be perfectly fine with paying tons of money for something you don't own, and will very likely become unplayable at some time.

Nintendo Isn't a mess one bit, you must be completely hung over digital only, to have to think that Nintendo is a mess.

No, dumbass. I'm claiming Nintendo is going same-day digital download & traditional retail with Wii U.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/122/1223941p1.html

Nintendo IS a mess with their online strategy. As I said, they force your games to be locked to 3DS. Your games aren't portable between more than one system. Sony lets you do it, Xbox lets you transfer content easily. Itunes & Google content is the same. Nintendo is behind everybody else, still using friend codes. The 3DS, DSi, Wii all use different points cards for funding, there's no unification there. It's a mess. They're a decade behind everybody and need to simplify it.

They can do it, or they can waste their time while investors get anxious, and Apple/Samsung/Sony eats into their mobile gaming market, and the Wii U fails to pull in the same phenomenal sales as the Wii.

[Zoltor]

No, dumbass. I'm claiming Nintendo is going same-day digital download & traditional retail with Wii U.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/122/1223941p1.html

Nintendo IS a mess with their online strategy. As I said, they force your games to be locked to 3DS. Your games aren't portable between more than one system. Sony lets you do it, Xbox lets you transfer content easily. Itunes & Google content is the same. Nintendo is behind everybody else, still using friend codes. The 3DS, DSi, Wii all use different points cards for funding, there's no unification there. It's a mess. They're a decade behind everybody and need to simplify it.

They can do it, or they can waste their time while investors get anxious, and Apple/Samsung/Sony eats into their mobile gaming market, and the Wii U fails to pull in the same phenomenal sales as the Wii.

Lol you fail, it clearly says nintendo plans to release all their games in Physical "and" digital form.

They aren't going digital only.

Also the whole locked in system is not a big deal, stop making it out to be a company destroying mistake, who gives a crap. If you're home, you can play either library, if you're not home, I'm sure you won't die, if you don't have access to every single game on both systems, you can live with playing what a handheld has to offer.

[Knuckle Duster]

Lol you fail, it clearly says nintendo plans to release all their games in Physical "and" digital form.

They aren't going digital only.

That's what I said. Twice.

You are an idiot.

Also the whole locked in system is not a big deal, stop making it out to be a company destroying mistake, who gives a crap.

Everybody who wants to buy a game and share it between their consoles? Everybody who opposes completely restrictive DRM? People with more than one 3DS or WiiU?

If you're home, you can play either library, if you're not home, I'm sure you won't die, if you don't have access to every single game on both systems, you can live with playing what a handheld has to offer.

The valiant crusader against Digital distribution, the hardcore and relentless anti-new-things RPG nerd, the almighty force of hatred and disgust for all things that aren't sacred dice rolling simulators with Nintendo branded packaging, the one, the only, Zoltor... thinks it's no big deal if you can't transfer the games you bought between your own hardware.


Hey everybody, is this legitimately unoffensive stupidity and not elaborate trolling? I can't tell anymore.

[Olls]

You two are like Yin and Yang.

[Zoltor]

That's what I said. Twice.

You are an idiot.


Everybody who wants to buy a game and share it between their consoles? Everybody who opposes completely restrictive DRM? People with more than one 3DS or WiiU?



The valiant crusader against Digital distribution, the hardcore and relentless anti-new-things RPG nerd, the almighty force of hatred and disgust for all things that aren't sacred dice rolling simulators with Nintendo branded packaging, the one, the only, Zoltor... thinks it's no big deal if you can't transfer the games you bought between your own hardware.


Hey everybody, is this legitimately unoffensive stupidity and not elaborate trolling? I can't tell anymore.

No you didn't, when I said as far as I can tell, atleast Nintendo Isn't pulling that BS(in referance to digital only), you replied by saying Nintendo just announced that they are doing that to all their games.

You meant DRM by locked, no you didn't, but nice try. You clearly meant not being able to move the console game, to the handheld in your statement.

[Knuckle Duster]

You meant DRM by locked, no you didn't, but nice try. You clearly meant not being able to move the console game, to the handheld in your statement.

Ummm... No.

Nobody would assume to have a console game become portable or accessible on one. Are you fucking kidding me? Where is the pretext for that implementation set anywhere in this discussion? It's at best a pipe-dream concept feature for the Vita which doesn't work yet. I'm describing how by owning 2 or more 3DS consoles, or Wii U consoles, you won't be able to transfer between them to play your games, when all the competition is addressing this issue.

There's no cloud backups, there's no cross platform account.

No you didn't, when I said as far as I can tell, atleast Nintendo Isn't pulling that BS(in referance to digital only), you replied by saying Nintendo just announced that they are doing that to all their games.

Really?!

Nintendo just announced it is going digital distribution on full retail titles for Wii U & 3DS.

No, I didn't. Fool.

[FoxHound]

I dropped out from videos games during gba and gamecube days. My ps2 collected dust after finishing metal gear...i was focused on modding my car and chasing girls. my collections just sat boxed up then my girl friend got me a gamecube for a bday gift and Mario Kart double dash sparked my interest again playing together with her. I was content with GC and PS2 for a long time. Then 360 came and the collecting bug got me again for new and retro.

[Zoltor]

"Nintendo just announced it is going digital distribution on full retail titles for Wii U & 3DS."

Exactly, but you replied to a post that said Nintentdo Isn't gonna pull that BS, which was a reply to another poster talking about digital only.

[Knuckle Duster]

"Nintendo just announced it is going digital distribution on full retail titles for Wii U & 3DS."

Exactly, but you replied to a post that said Nintentdo Isn't gonna pull that BS, which was a reply to another poster talking about digital only.

You're an idiot without reading comprehension skills.

I replied to your speculation that Nintendo wouldn't (Pull BS/go digital only/Betray your wholesome and safe retarded honor code), by saying they just announced a strategy to put full retail games on digital distribution which is pretty fucking relevant to the context, while stating reasons they are poor at implementing and unifying their online platform compared to competition, and reasons they're the most restrictive with DRM.

You assumed I said digital only. Even when I corrected you with a second response, you're still too ignorant and argumentative to realize and admit you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

[kokujin]

Limbo, Braid, Super Meat Boy, N+, Cave Story, Shadow Complex, Megaman 10, Rocket Knight, Hardcorps Uprising... Some indie, some not. All kick ass.

Super Streetfighter IV is absolutely, a piece of shit... but KoF XIII & VF5FS will justify owning 360/PS3 if for nothing else.

I'll only address the non indies games and old IPs.Rocket Knight is short and a far cry from the Genesis title, Megaman 10 isn't bad, but they could have added sliding, but they took the easy way out.Hardcorps Uprising is the worst offender, they said leading up to its release it would be a spiritual successor to Contra HC, which the best Contra game ever made.I don't know what copy of HC they had, but it wasn't the one I played, one of the biggest disappointments this gen.Kof XIII is easily the best 2D fighting game since Third Strike, it's simply incredible and VF5 FS will be the best 3D fighting this gen easily.

[Zoltor]

You're an idiot without reading comprehension skills.

I replied to your speculation that Nintendo wouldn't (Pull BS/go digital only/Betray your wholesome and safe retarded honor code), by saying they just announced a strategy to put full retail games on digital distribution which is pretty fucking relevant to the context, while stating reasons they are poor at implementing and unifying their online platform compared to competition, and reasons they're the most restrictive with DRM.

You assumed I said digital only. Even when I corrected you with a second response, you're still too ignorant and argumentative to realize and admit you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

It is not digital only(the thing I called BS), so no it Isn't relevent, not in any way, shape or form. As long as there's a physical release, there's nothing wrong with it.

You replied to my post about calling digital only BS, and how Nintendo won't do that.

You replied yea they are, and gave me a link that proved you wrong lol.

Telling me I'm wrong when I said Nintendo Isn't gonna pull that BS, is the same as saying they are gonna pull that BS, so you did infact say Nintendo is going digital only.

[Knuckle Duster]

It is not digital only(the thing I called BS), so no it Isn't relevent, not in any way, shape or form. As long as there's a physical release, there's nothing wrong with it.

Of course it's relevant.

Zoltor, our entire conversation can be simplified like this:

You: "Nintendo will never go digital only!"
Me: "Well, they just went digital, at least!"
You: "WAHH! THAT'S NOT TRUE! YOU LIE! BULLSHIT!"
Me: "Here's a link, fool"
You: "You said they went digital only!"
Me: "No, I didn't"
You: "YES YOU DID!"
Me: "No, here's what I said."
You: "You meant something else! YOU CAN'T FOOL ME!"

You replied to my post about calling digital only BS, and how Nintendo won't do that.

You replied yea they are, and gave me a link that proved you wrong lol.

No, I stated they are going digital for full releases now. They just announced it. You brought up Nintendo's future, and I commented on it.

Telling me I'm wrong when I said Nintendo Isn't gonna pull that BS, is the same as saying they are gonna pull that BS, so you did infact say Nintendo is going digital only.

Where did I say you were wrong in that post? Nowhere, you fucking stupid train wreck.