Your "Stuck in a Bunker" Console

[Olls]

Gamecube, since any other disk-based system is more prone to defects and it has quite a few nice 4-player games.

I'd choose the Lynx. That way there are no multiplayer games so the three gorgeous young women sharing my bunker would have no source of entertainment but me.

What if the other people in your bunker are three hairy, obese, homosexual men?

[gamevet]

Gamecube, since any other disk-based system is more prone to defects and it has quite a few nice 4-player games.



What if the other people in your bunker are three hairy, obese, homosexual men?

You'd end up in a circle jerk, since you're all sitting so close together in a circle.

[The Coop]

Sega Genesis (the original model 1), two 6-button controllers, and these games...

Thunder Force IV
Thunder Force III
Gauntlet IV
Phantasy Star II-IV
Sonic 3 + Knuckles (that counts as one, right?)
Streets of Rage 2
Steel Empire
Battletech
Ristar
Herzog Zwei
Mega Turrican
Master of Monsters
Castlevania: Bloodlines
6-Pak (Sonic, Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Super Hang-On, Columns and Streets of Rage)
Dragon's Fury
Pier Solar
M.U.S.H.A.
Red Zone

[Zoltor]

Gamecube, since any other disk-based system is more prone to defects and it has quite a few nice 4-player games.



What if the other people in your bunker are three hairy, obese, homosexual men?

The wii is insanely durable as well(I must've knocked it over, over a dozen times now, and it still runs as if it were brand new), so It's probally the Nintendo disc systems in general. What I want to know is, what is it that Nintendo is doing so differently(contruction wise), that no other company is doing? Who ever figures that out should tell Sony, and MS right away(they definitely need help in that area).

[Knuckle Duster]

The wii is insanely durable as well(I must've knocked it over, over a dozen times now, and it still runs as if it were brand new), so It's probally the Nintendo disc systems in general. What I want to know is, what is it that Nintendo is doing so differently(contruction wise), that no other company is doing? Who ever figures that out should tell Sony, and MS right away(they definitely need help in that area).

You're implying an inferiority bias against Sony & Microsoft with anecdotal evidence, when it's the Wii that had the most optical drive problems.

Wii optical drives are off the shelf DVD components and prone to typical failures, so are Microsoft and Sony drives. Wii failures are the most prominent this generation, there are a large number of Wii's that fail after playing dual layer game discs, if they read at all to begin with. Wii is no more durable than the competitors, all use a small chassis prone to heat capture and lead free RoHS solder which needs to be heated enough to potentially damage component lifespan in the manufacturing process. Heat stresses exist more prominently in the other two consoles due to the more modern GPU they each use. Total hardware failure (Not the disc drive) was what caused the RROD/YLOD.


This generation of hardware are all easy to fail. More so the older Xbox 360 and PS3, less so the later ones & the slim versions. Wii's optical drive fails after a few years of wear, most people just opt to mod the system and run game ISOs from USB hard drives. Optical media sucks.

[Zoltor]

Um the wii is the most durable cosole this gen, so I don't know where you get your info from, wii failures are super rare to the extent that It's likely that the indivual wii systems that failed, were factory defects to beginwith(tries to count all the PS3, and 360 systems that have failed... Damn that's gonna take forever).

[eddiespruce]

I don't have any experience with the wii, but I know that the Gamecube is a well made machine. However, like all consoles, it can still fail. Mine is still working fine, but once you've put enough years into it, the potentiometer will have eventually turned too far, and will no longer read discs. Thankfully, you can open up your Gamecube and carefully turn that screw back a bit, but It'll eventually happen again, and a laser assembly replacement will probably be the easier way to go, and thankfully, it's cheap.

[Knuckle Duster]

Um the wii is the most durable cosole this gen, so I don't know where you get your info from, wii failures are super rare to the extent that It's likely that the indivual wii systems that failed, were factory defects to beginwith(tries to count all the PS3, and 360 systems that have failed... Damn that's gonna take forever).

I get my info from being around repair & mod services on all the platforms. The wii used a cheap, shitty optical drive. Most people don't care to call Nintendo, and mod their Wii to run other media and backups. I've explained the failures of the 360 and PS3, those are related to the motherboard and the shitty solder holding the GPU a lot more than the optical drives.

In other words:
Wii doesn't cook itself to death like Xbox/PS3, but their optical drives are shit and they fail more often than you think.

[Zoltor]

I haven't had the laser/eye die, and I've only heard a few instances of that happening to the wiis, where the 360s usually don't live long enough for there to be a drive problem anyway, and I've heard of many instances with the PS3(the PS3 has many issues, it fries its self, the OS is the worst OS in history, and the drive dies).

Hell in the PS3's case, even the times that the disc drive Isn't dead, it only works properly when it wants to(a ton of different times I had to eject the disc, and reput it in to get the drive to even try reading the disc).

Most people don't mod their wii lol, the people that do that is the group of people, that want to turn it into a master retro emulation machine(and there are huge drawbacks for doing such).

[gamevet]

Zolter, do you even think before you post this drivel?

My launch PS3 has had no issues, but it still doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of launch PS3s that don't work anymore. I've heard of people that still have their launch 360s and somehow were lucky enough to never get a RROD.

Yes, I've heard stories of the Wii's graphics chip dying, because people kept the console on when not playing it.

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/wii/wii-over...put-error.html

[Knuckle Duster]

Zoltor, Wii's get modded all the time. I know of at LEAST a hundred people who had done it because it made watching Divx movies from USB a cake-walk. These people wouldn't know what a retro game even is.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

[Olls]

Zoltor, (...)

You have no clue what you're talking about.

I nominate this for most used phrase in 2012.

[NeoZeedeater]

Since compilations are allowed that rules out older systems for me. I don't really care about focusing on multiplayer.

PS2 it is. This is what I'm leaning towards -

Compilations:

Activision Anthology
Atari Anthology
Capcom Classics Collection
Capcom Classics Collection 2
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Midway Arcade Treasures
Sega Ages: Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box
Sega Ages: Monster World Collection
Sega Genesis Collection
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology
Taito Legends
Taito Legends 2

Individual games:

Deus Ex: The Conspiracy - Since DX is my favourite game and PC gaming isn't allowed, I'll settle for this port.

Beyond Good & Evil - Again, not the best version but I'll take a visual downgrade given the PS2's other advantages for this topic.

Shadow of the Colossus
Way of the Samurai
Rock Band 2
OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
Fatal Frame II
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

[MrMatthews]

(tries to count all the PS3, and 360 systems that have failed... Damn that's gonna take forever).

Translation: "I don't know if what I'm claiming to be true has any basis in fact, and I don't know how I can prove it one way or the other. However, since the only people I take seriously on the internet are hardcore Nintendo fanboys, and all of them are saying that the Wii is more reliable than the Playstation 3 and XBox 360, I'm going to go ahead and accept their word as gospel. If anyone questions me, I'll just fall back on the 360's famed 'RROD.' Most people have heard of this, so they probably won't argue with me. And it only makes sense that the PS3 has the same problems, since it's not made by Nintendo and I don't really like Sony anyway."

[Olls]

Goddamnit, can't rep.