High ass system prices.

[TheSonicRetard]

As long as people keep buying these consoles, there is no incentive for them to lower the price.
With the build quality of this garbage, I can imagine why. They just don't make them like they used to...

The PS3 - the fat, BC one at least - is a very quality build. I've been through 5 Xbox 360s - 4 of them were the normal models and all RRoD, while the 5th, my current Xbox, is a slim which hasn't given me trouble. My launch PS3 is still going strong. The PS3 might just be in my top 5 favorite consoles of all time. Regardless of what you think of the library, the build quality of the machine, especially a fully BC one, is excellent.

[Da_Shocker]

The PS3 - the fat, BC one at least - is a very quality build. I've been through 5 Xbox 360s - 4 of them were the normal models and all RRoD, while the 5th, my current Xbox, is a slim which hasn't given me trouble. My launch PS3 is still going strong. The PS3 might just be in my top 5 favorite consoles of all time. Regardless of what you think of the library, the build quality of the machine, especially a fully BC one, is excellent.

I agree with it being pretty sturdy at least compared to the 360 but gotdamn does that thing blow out a lot of hot air. Which is great during the winter time but awful for the summer.

[bultje112]

the old ps3's have big overheating issues. almost all I known have broken in the past 1 or 2 years. the newer ones don't seme to have these issues. 360 is a mess

[SF78]

The PS3 - the fat, BC one at least - is a very quality build. I've been through 5 Xbox 360s - 4 of them were the normal models and all RRoD, while the 5th, my current Xbox, is a slim which hasn't given me trouble. My launch PS3 is still going strong. The PS3 might just be in my top 5 favorite consoles of all time. Regardless of what you think of the library, the build quality of the machine, especially a fully BC one, is excellent.

I have to disagree on this one. The original PS2 compatible PS3 is a POS! It only uses one lens system unlike the newer ones with separate red/blue lenses. I bought my PS3 fat used and it had just few months prior been fitted with a new laser and already it was starting to fail. I bought a new laser and fixed it myself and after 10 hours that god damn thing was failing to read BD discs! Luckily it still somewhat worked when positioned upside down so I quickly sold it and never looked back. Probably the worst console or system I ever had the misfortune of owning! And don't get me started on the HW restrictions! I mean 256 Mb of RAM! Really?!

[Baloo]

As long as people keep buying these consoles, there is no incentive for them to lower the price.
With the build quality of this garbage, I can imagine why. They just don't make them like they used to...

I agree with you there. I have a 360 and Wii and they're both busted...the Wii won't turn on and the 360, which I JUST got last Christmas refurbished from Gamestop, the disc drive won't read discs now.

At the price they sell this shit at, I'm done with current-gen stuff. Not enough good games on these fucking systems to make the price worth my while.

[StarMist]

That sucks, man. With the 360 you could at least use it for online and downloads. Get the Bionic Commando Rearmed games, Limbo, some shmups.
Too bad about the Wii but when the WiiU comes out they should drop and there are definitely worthwhile games, plus those not by Nintendo are cheap, eg S&P Star Successor sells online brand new for $10. (I know you don't use Ebay but you give somebody who does the cash).
And if you do get either running consider buying a fan, just a regular general purpose kitchen fan or whatever, to run exhaust on all your machines. If you only use the Xbox just get a USB fan (if it has those, the PS3 does--I haven't seen one for the Wii).

[bultje112]

I agree with you there. I have a 360 and Wii and they're both busted...the Wii won't turn on and the 360, which I JUST got last Christmas refurbished from Gamestop, the disc drive won't read discs now.

At the price they sell this shit at, I'm done with current-gen stuff. Not enough good games on these fucking systems to make the price worth my while.

get a ps3. it's exclusives are awesome

[The Jackal]

360 is a mess

The old 360s, sure. But not the new Slimline model.

[ThunderForce]

Noting ever beats a 3DO.

[bultje112]

[Chris]

The prices of consoles today are actually quite reasonable.
I bought my Sega Genesis in 1989 for $289 and my Turbo Express in 1990 for $388.
Factor in inflation and you would think game systems today would be more than they are.

I forget what the average wage was in 1989, but you could buy a nice house in my neighborhood for around $100,000, now a tear down sells for around 1 million.

[bultje112]

exactly that. videogaming has only gotten cheaper with the years. remember old cartridges that cost 70$ back in early 90s? now games costs like 50-60$ and with inflation that means nearly half the price of what games used to be. everything gets more expensive except gaming

[gamevet]

The PS3 - the fat, BC one at least - is a very quality build. I've been through 5 Xbox 360s - 4 of them were the normal models and all RRoD, while the 5th, my current Xbox, is a slim which hasn't given me trouble. My launch PS3 is still going strong. The PS3 might just be in my top 5 favorite consoles of all time. Regardless of what you think of the library, the build quality of the machine, especially a fully BC one, is excellent.

I've never had any problems with my 60gig PS3 either. I like fact that it had the option to upgrade my HDD with whatever laptop drive I wanted to use. It was much cheaper than ungrading the HDD of the 360. The PS3 also runs Netflix better than my 360, or the Blu-Ray player we have in the bedroom and having one of the best Blu-Ray players on the market doesn't hurt either.

Yeah, I pretty much have the entire Playstation library available on one console. I'd say that puts the 60gig in my top 3 consoles of all-time list.

I have to disagree on this one. The original PS2 compatible PS3 is a POS! It only uses one lens system unlike the newer ones with separate red/blue lenses. I bought my PS3 fat used and it had just few months prior been fitted with a new laser and already it was starting to fail. I bought a new laser and fixed it myself and after 10 hours that god damn thing was failing to read BD discs! Luckily it still somewhat worked when positioned upside down so I quickly sold it and never looked back. Probably the worst console or system I ever had the misfortune of owning! And don't get me started on the HW restrictions! I mean 256 Mb of RAM! Really?!

The 256 MB of RAM in the PS3 is twice as fast as that of the 360. It was designed around the idea of streaming data directly from the Blu-Ray drive. That's why games like Uncharted look so great, because they were designed to take advantage of the PS3.

[SF78]

I bought my Sega Genesis in 1989 for $289 and my Turbo Express in 1990 for $388.

And I bet they still work. Let's see about PS3 and 360 in 20 years and then talk about value for money.

The 256 MB of RAM in the PS3 is twice as fast as that of the 360. It was designed around the idea of streaming data directly from the Blu-Ray drive. That's why games like Uncharted look so great, because they were designed to take advantage of the PS3.

Granted, PS3 has those certain games that appear good, but there are many cross-platformers that struggle.

[xelement5x]

I bought a 360 Elite back in 2008 and treated it great, plenty of space around it to breath and dusted frequently to keep the vents clean. What I got for my wonderful treatment of the console was that it died on me 2 months after the "extended" 3 year warranty and and had to buy a new console. The new 360 slim works great, but we'll see for how long.

I have the MGS bundle PS3 with backwards compatibility and just like the 360 it's been well cared for. It's been pretty solid the entire time, but the fans on it are getting really loud and I have a feeling it's going die any day soon(my friend has the same bundle and his died a couple months ago). I'm looking forward to a price drop so I can pick up a slim and not worry about the thermal paste on this continuing to dry out and overheat, sub $200 and I'll probably bite.

I bought a PS2 near launch and it's lasted a long time, but I've also had to do disc read error fixes on it at least 3 times over the last 10+ years. My original PS1 had to be placed sideways to work near the end of it's life, I bought a PSOne (redesign) and it's been doing an admiral job when I use it.

Now, for my SNES and Genesis systems, the biggest problem I've ever had with them is a bad power plug, or possibly the cracked solder joint for the connector on the board.


You tell me which of these listed I'll still be able to play games for on the original hardware in 30 years, I'm pretty sure I know which ones they'll be.