What are your thoughts about E3 so far

[Zoltor]

This was an awesome showing for MS. Not only do we get Internet Explorer on the 360 (can I get a "Hell yeah!" up in here?) we get even more Kinect stuff. Who doesn't love having Kinect shoved down their throats? MS is demanding that it succeed.

Really though, I'm much more excited for the Wii-U, especially after they showed that Controller Pro and said that games aren't required to use the tablet. That means we can see normal, non-gimmicky games on the system. MS is going full retard with Kinect and Sony is just being Sony so far. It's nice to see Nintendo change direction towards the non-gimmicky, even if it is only a slight change.

Yea, I can't wait to see Nintendo, and what they have in store for the wiiU, I can't help thinking that Nintendo planned this E3 out, even suckering the competition to do what Nintendo wants(really, showing the screen controller off 2 years before release just screams bait), It's bound to be "some" show.

[WarmSignal]

This was Microsoft's "the 360 is not our future" last hurrah. Can't expect much. For some reason they don't want to talk about what's next.

[TheSonicRetard]

This was Microsoft's "the 360 is not our future" last hurrah. Can't expect much.

What's more baffling is Sony ignoring the Vita entirely. The Vita needed a strong E3 more than any other piece of hardware out there, and it got 4 games, 3 of which are ports from the PS3.

[gamevet]

smartglass is a companion app for all windows phone, android, and iOS devices.

I had a feeling it was, but MS needs to keep the Windows 8 devices hype out of the equation for it to succeed.

I never said their linup was good, It's the same forgettible 360 filler fare, but when you consider that the 2nd screen caters to the type of games the 360 mainly has, on top of which, the 360 "is not" a gaming console(It's a repackaged PC, that can be used to play games), the smartglass(god damn it, MS now, what is it with dumb names these days) is a big deal for the people who would find themselves wantins a 360.

The lineup is an important part of selling your console to gamers. Software wise, MS has had much better lineups at E3.

The 360 is still a gaming console first and a replacement for a media PC second.

The Smart Glass is Microsoft's answer to the Wii U's smart pad controller, much like Kinect was their answer to the Wii's motion controller. If anything, it's Microsoft's way of stealing Nintendo's thunder with any unique idea that can be had with the Wii U controller.

Also this may very well be the big step forward they needed, to get the Japanese to buy the 360.

Japan has been a handheld market for quite some time. The Smart Glass isn't going to convince that market to move over to an American console.

[Zoltor]

What's more baffling is Sony ignoring the Vita entirely. The Vita needed a strong E3 more than any other piece of hardware out there, and it got 4 games, 3 of which are ports from the PS3.

Yea like I said in the OP, the only thing they did for the vita, is an Assassin's Creed bundle(a system with pretty much no noteworthy games, getting a bundle with a "single" more then likely good game, is still not enough reason to buy one). If I didn't know Sony was run by morons that know nothing about the industry, I would've sworn they were trying to fail, their decisions/moves are that bad

As Joe Said, Sony is just being Sony(you know, the not knowing wtf they are doing), It's amazing they are actually still in the hardware development part of the industry.

To Gamevet: what in the history of MS in the gaming industry, would make you think they are a media PC 2nd, they have always been more gunho over this multi media/PC stuff, while basically not even caring about the game library issues(then add to the fact they actually discontinued "DLC" support for older game, which there was no legit reason to do that).

Needless to say, they never really thought of it as a gaming console first, they used gaming to just get themselves in the door of the new market, and then went gunho with all kinds of multi meadia/PC related features.

The 360 is a PC that takes up a 10th of the space of a traditional PC setup, so Japan will jump all over that, there's no doubt(once they realice It's not a console, but a media center, that just happens to play game as well, sales will explode in Japan).

[QuickSciFi]

I just watched the conferences for Microsoft and Sony. Is it just me, or does Ascend: New Gods sound too much like the new God of War game?

[kokujin]

Star Wars 1313 easily takes the show so far, finally proper PC grade graphics.This is all in game footage,the next gen is here today.

[TheSonicRetard]

I had a feeling it was, but MS needs to keep the Windows 8 devices hype out of the equation for it to succeed.

Given Windows 8's tablet focus, there will undoubtedly be a windows 8 version eventually. For the record, I am beyond hyped about x86 tablets finally arriving alongside windows 8. I had an old x86 tablet years ago, and it was miles better than these toy tablets they sell today. I can't wait to get a full fledged PC and operating system on an ipad or galaxy tab form factor.

The 360 is still a gaming console first and a replacement for a media PC second.

The next Xbox and Playstation likely won't be. Remember when it was said late last year that Sony planned to launch their own alternative to cable tv and it would offer ala carte channel selecting? That's absolutely still coming. And that's virtually what microsoft has with Xbox Live. You can get virtually any sports besides the NFL on your Xbox now, along with Netflix, Hulu, and HBO Go. You better believe that focus isn't going away. Neilsen studies have shown that people use their Xbox 360's more to watch media than play games today.

I absolutely welcome this. The current publishing model for television, music, and movies is so far outdated that it's mind boggling. Out methods of distributing media, the primary export of the united states, is rooted in 18th century practices. We absolutely need to start changing the way we interact with media, and the first step is in dethroning the current publishing status quo which have become nothing more than parasitic middle men, siphoning money in a system where their role as media providers is increasingly meaningless and unnecessary.

The Smart Glass is Microsoft's answer to the Wii U's smart pad controller, much like Kinect was their answer to the Wii's motion controller. If anything, it's Microsoft's way of stealing Nintendo's thunder with any unique idea that can be had with the Wii U controller.

I really, really don't think they're very similar at all. Microsoft's purpose for its tablet app is entirely different from Nintendo's vision of what the WiiU tablet will be. I don't expect smartglass to become a major part of playing games on the xbox, but I do see smartglass being a major way for Microsoft to extend their mediacenter hub beyond the living room. Remember microsoft's ultimate goal with the xbox project? It wasn't to become the best games maker, it was for microsoft to become the centerpiece to a media hub in your living room. They're getting closer to that vision every day, and I believe the next "xbox" will shed the image it has as a games-first device to get better mass market saturation. Basically, to get people who aren't interested in playing video games, interested in buying their new media box. The next logical step in their business would be to grow beyond the living room.

Nintendo, however, is forever a games first company. They don't share Sony, and Microsoft, and Apple, or even various PC manufacturer's goal of becoming the go-to media hub in your living room. They don't care about slicing into the cable tv pie, or forming their own music delivering system, or any of that. They want to make games. And I think the WiiU controller is primarily a way for them to continue making the kind of games they got good at on the DS, and also to keep up with gaming trends in the mobile sector. I don't think we're ever going to see another piece of nintendo hardware (WiiU Classic Controller obviously excluded) without a touch screen again.

Japan has been a handheld market for quite some time. The Smart Glass isn't going to convince that market to move over to an American console.

Again, I don't think smart glass has really anything to do with gaming. Or rather, very little to do with it.

[TheSonicRetard]

Star Wars 1313 easily takes the show so far, finally proper PC grade graphics.This is all in game footage,the next gen is here today.

Oh EASILY. The last time I seriously upgraded my PC, like from head to toe, was when Crysis first came out. I am going to build an entirely new top of the line PC for this baby right here. Fuck waiting for Microsoft and Sony, next gen is already here.

This is exactly what I had in mind when Valve was talking steambox spec a while back.

EDIT: Watchdogs on said resulting PC will be glorious, too.

[gamevet]

To Gamevet: what in the history of MS in the gaming industry, would make you think they are a media PC 2nd, they have always been more gunho over this multi media/PC stuff, while basically not even caring about the game library issues(then add to the fact they actually discontinued "DLC" support for older game, which there was no legit reason to do that).

The original Xbox was 95% gaming and not until the last couple of years has the focus shifted towards more media content. The 360 arcade wasn't exactly the kind of hardware you'd use to store media.

Needless to say, they never really thought of it as a gaming console first, they used gaming to just get themselves in the door of the new market, and then went gunho with all kinds of multi meadia/PC related features.

The 360 is a PC that takes up a 10th of the space of a traditional PC setup, so Japan will jump all over that, there's no doubt(once they realice It's not a console, but a media center, that just happens to play game as well, sales will explode in Japan).

Small media PCs have been around for years. Have you not heard of a Zbox?

[TheSonicRetard]

Welp it's over

All 3 sucked very much so

PC Gaming won E3 with Star Wars 1313 and Watchdog.

[sheath]

I tried to watch the Microsoft conference, most of it reminded me of those "If Quake/Doom Were Made Today" videos. It made me sad.

Watching Lara Croft brutally beaten, probably to death, by level design really wasn't fun at all.

[The Coop]

Dear Microsoft,

Where the fuck is my MechAssault 3?

Signed,

The Coop

[Pulstar]

I'm waiting to read Zoltor's defence of Ninty's abysmal Wii U reveal..

Wiiiiiii... come on it was always a silly name.

[Zoltor]

The original Xbox was 95% gaming and not until the last couple of years has the focus shifted towards more media content. The 360 arcade wasn't exactly the kind of hardware you'd use to store media.



Small media PCs have been around for years. Have you not heard of a Zbox?

The original Xbox was a complete failure, so they didn't have their foot in the door yet, but like I said, as soon as they got their foot in the door, they went gunho on the media PC stuff, and ignored gaming.