Turbo EverDrive

[Thunderblaze16]

I want a Neo Geo AES ever-drive cart.

Fuck that $250 overpriced mvs to aes converter.

[EclecticGroove]

I'd say it lowers the barrier for entry to enjoy a system. You can locate and buy the hardware, and play the games with this device for as long as you desire. Then it's up to you to start collecting any/all of the real games if you wish.

I always found it puzzling to see people who don't own a console (and never did) get excited over flash cartridges or copiers.

At the risk of sounding like a dick; what's to be excited over? If you never owned the original hardware (thus aren't used to the original controllers) and you don't plan on buying any "real" games for it, what's to get excited over? Why not just stay with emulation? It's not like you can say "Well, the real hardware experience is better" because you never had that.

[Lan Di]

I always found it puzzling to see people who don't own a console (and never did) get excited over flash cartridges or copiers.

At the risk of sounding like a dick; what's to be excited over? If you never owned the original hardware (thus aren't used to the original controllers) and you don't plan on buying any "real" games for it, what's to get excited over? Why not just stay with emulation? It's not like you can say "Well, the real hardware experience is better" because you never had that.

Casual gamers don't buy flash carts. You have to truly appreciate using the actual hardware. Only the truly hardcore classic gaming enthusiast will spend money on a flash cart. Its like comparing eating a choice cut t-bone steak to a hamburger patty. Both are beef, but only one is really a worth savoring and enjoying. Never owning the hardware is irrelevant. Emulation simply is not the same. I guess you're not much of an enthusiast to understand. You'd be happy eating a hamburger patty. I hope you're not a vegetarian, lol.

[Guntz]

I want a Neo Geo AES ever-drive cart.

Fuck that $250 overpriced mvs to aes converter.

In that case, you may not want to look at DavidG's Daedalus MVS converter featuring perfect compatibility... It's only $400.

Seriously though, Lan Di already mentioned the easy solution. Get a 161-in-1 multicart or something to that effect. It's not quite a flash cart, but they usually have enough legit games to keep the average person happy. Thing is though, none of those multicarts contain every legitimate Neo Geo release, the ratio tends to be roughly 50% legit games and 50% hacks/bootlegs.

[Lastcallhall]

In that case, you may not want to look at DavidG's Daedalus MVS converter featuring perfect compatibility... It's only $400.

Seriously though, Lan Di already mentioned the easy solution. Get a 161-in-1 multicart or something to that effect. It's not quite a flash cart, but they usually have enough legit games to keep the average person happy. Thing is though, none of those multicarts contain every legitimate Neo Geo release, the ratio tends to be roughly 50% legit games and 50% hacks/bootlegs.

Not to mention Krikzz has gone on record and stated he would never make a Neo Geo Everdrive. It's too bad, as I'd gladly donate my hardware along with a copy of Baseball Stars for testing, provided I get the Neo back, of course.

[Black_Tiger]

Casual gamers don't buy flash carts. You have to truly appreciate using the actual hardware. Only the truly hardcore classic gaming enthusiast will spend money on a flash cart. Its like comparing eating a choice cut t-bone steak to a hamburger patty. Both are beef, but only one is really a worth savoring and enjoying. Never owning the hardware is irrelevant. Emulation simply is not the same. I guess you're not much of an enthusiast to understand. You'd be happy eating a hamburger patty. I hope you're not a vegetarian, lol.

I think that is what he was getting at. If someone couldn't be bothered to pick up the hardware by now, then they're likely not the kind of hardcore player who cares enough for such an authentic experience. In the case of the TG-16/PCE, the CD format was the main media that developers targeted and other than a few exceptions, only small sized games were put onto HuCards. Most people interested in a good flashcart for TG-16/PCE should already have hardware and games, but are interested in playing the TG-16 version of Magical Chase, translated HuCards and homebrew roms. Otherwise, this is kind of like a flash cart for Genesis that only supports 32X games or a flashcart for SMS/Mark III that only supports Sega My Card games.

I could see casual players who have never owned the hardware getting excited if they are unfamiliar with the library and don't realize that most of the best stuff is on CD and that they can be downloaded for free.

Seriously though, Lan Di already mentioned the easy solution. Get a 161-in-1 multicart or something to that effect. It's not quite a flash cart, but they usually have enough legit games to keep the average person happy. Thing is though, none of those multicarts contain every legitimate Neo Geo release, the ratio tends to be roughly 50% legit games and 50% hacks/bootlegs.

So many MVS games are super cheap anyway. I bought a 100+ -in- 1 MVS cart which covers pretty much all of the expensive games that I wouldn't consider paying collector prices for without playing the game enough first to make that decision. The games I already know I must have I either bought or plan to buy as separate carts. Again, if it's not worth spending hundreds of dollars to play a single game on real hardware, then a hack of it on real hardware at a cheap price should be more than good enough if you aren't a hardcore collector. The only slightly disappointing part of some of the hacks for me is when they add in a subtitle indicating the new version. Otherwise, I'm not familiar enough with every game to be able to tell the difference and they're still fun and impressive games.

[grimm]

In that case, you may not want to look at DavidG's Daedalus MVS converter featuring perfect compatibility... It's only $400.

Seriously though, Lan Di already mentioned the easy solution. Get a 161-in-1 multicart or something to that effect. It's not quite a flash cart, but they usually have enough legit games to keep the average person happy. Thing is though, none of those multicarts contain every legitimate Neo Geo release, the ratio tends to be roughly 50% legit games and 50% hacks/bootlegs.

Id say there usually is a bit more legit games than only half.. From a quick look it seems more like 70% legit games on many of the multi-carts.. But yes, alot of them are hacks, and none so far has all the legit games on the same cartridge.

[Thunderblaze16]

Casual gamers don't buy flash carts. You have to truly appreciate using the actual hardware. Only the truly hardcore classic gaming enthusiast will spend money on a flash cart. Its like comparing eating a choice cut t-bone steak to a hamburger patty. Both are beef, but only one is really a worth savoring and enjoying. Never owning the hardware is irrelevant. Emulation simply is not the same. I guess you're not much of an enthusiast to understand. You'd be happy eating a hamburger patty. I hope you're not a vegetarian, lol.

I buy actual games for my snes and mega drive. I rather play them in actual hardware than fake hardware or emulators........but that doesn't mean I feel the same for other systems.

[Lan Di]

I buy actual games for my snes and mega drive. I rather play them in actual hardware than fake hardware or emulators........but that doesn't mean I feel the same for other systems.

It's all good dude.

[TheSonicRetard]

there are already easily gained neo geo multi carts, that have like 100 games included. if you look around you can find them, and for pretty cheap, too, because neo geo collectors see no value in such carts.

[Barone]

There's no moral advantage to buying the real games any more. The developers and publishers won't get anything. It makes no difference whatsoever. Does it hurt the eBay market? Who cares?

Truth. Most of people still prefer to ignore it though...

[TheSonicRetard]

I don't think people collect out of moral outrage. There is a difference between pirating a game that is 23 years old, and pirating a game that came out last week. I choose to buy the real-deal for my own enjoyment. It's no different than buying a deluxe edition of a game, or a first print of a book, or any other meaningless, fluffy merchandise that came packaged with a particular medium. There is pleasure in that fluff. In many case, I'm fully aware that I'm pretty much paying 3 to 4 times as much for the plastic case and manual than the game itself.

Some people are fine with that. Some are not. I think where you fall in that spectrum revolves heavily in how much you collect, and how much disposable income you have.

That said, I think when you aren't paying any money for games, you tend to not play them as much. There is a phenomenon I note when I download huge rom packs, which others have pointed out as well, where you tend to give games only one chance, comprised of only a few minutes of game play, before moving on to the next game in a seemingly endless ocean of other free games. I've seen many people download a complete NES rom pack, and play a game up until their first death, and then move on to the next. I feel as though if I spend a couple hundred dollars on a game, I'm going to sit down and play it for a good, long period of time to get my money's worth out of it.

[Joe Redifer]

Why has Kirikzz said that he'd never make a Neo Geo Everdrive? Did he receive death threats from the Neo Geo community? That honestly would not surprise me.

The problem with multicarts is that they are MVS and not AES. I have an AES. The one MVS I played in my home was very finicky and did not run at exactly 59.94Hz like the AES does and that means it tore the shit up out of the image when I tried to record some gameplay footage. The picture quality was far below my AES as well. So to me, an MVS is worthless.

[Guntz]

He probably already knows how expensive it'd be to make a Neo Geo flash cart. GohanX would have to do more than lend a home system and Baseball Stars to get the ball rolling... A lot more...

DavidG did a small run of AES multicarts not too long ago. I've seen one person sell their copy, perhaps one of you guys could snag a used one.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showth...ight=multi+aes

Also, Redifier, if your MVS outputs bad video, get a better video encoder.

[TheSonicRetard]

Why has Kirikzz said that he'd never make a Neo Geo Everdrive? Did he receive death threats from the Neo Geo community? That honestly would not surprise me.

The problem with multicarts is that they are MVS and not AES. I have an AES. The one MVS I played in my home was very finicky and did not run at exactly 59.94Hz like the AES does and that means it tore the shit up out of the image when I tried to record some gameplay footage. The picture quality was far below my AES as well. So to me, an MVS is worthless.

The quality of your MVS depends on how you're playing the MVS. I have a MAS Supernova that I use with a 1-slot MVS, and my MVS quality is outstanding and just on par with my AES.