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    Default AVGN on the 32X

    He reviews the 32X system

    http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...19558&type=wmv

    Granted he only has a few games, and usually only the worst ones. I do like his take on hooking up the system.

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    I'm glad to see someone else flip out on the cartridges not having labels on the sides, that always killed me.

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    lables on the sides? what are you talking about?

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    Maybe I should've said "labels on the edge" of the cartridge. Watch the video or look at a 32x game, it's quite obvious.

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    im not going to watch the stupid video.. what labels? Im looking at my 32X cart compared to two genny carts, i don't get it...

    do you mean the TOP? Because that's not a SIDE, or an EDGE...

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    The top could be considered an edge. You should watch the video. You won't be harmed (I promise), and there is a Quicktime version on the page if you prefer. I knew exactly what cap1010 was talking about right away since I had seen the video.

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    I didn't get to watch the whole thing because I'm at work but ...

    Really, I've never really understood why people have such a problem with hooking it up. Obviously, it's his job to make it look as bad as possible because that's his thing, but EVERYONE complains about hooking up the 32X. I never had a problem with it. I mean, the instructions were clear enough and even without them, it's not exactly hard. Just plug the wires in and be done with it.

    The AC adapter thing is the truth, though. That was just stupid stuff. I get around it by using the original Sega adapter on the Genesis and a Naki universal one with a large output plug (for the CD) and a small one (for the 32X). It's powerful enough to run both and I get to use only 2 adapters. Yay me.

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    There is no technical reason why the Sega CD and 32X couldn't have been designed to run on 1 adapter. The TG-16 CD-ROM does it.

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    well, i can atleast say the Genesis 1 (early model 1s), couldn't have shared their adapters.. they were maxed out..

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    A new AC Adapter would have been provided with the Sega CD, just like it was with the Turbo CD. The old one would not be used.

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    ..... but he set it on fire...... fucker.

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    to be honest, anyone who complains about hooking up the 32X, just is impatient.

    Customers wanted more colors. The 32X gave more colors.. How did customers think the new colors would get to the TV, black magic? The Genesis, in no way can push colors (in the thousands), like the 32X can. The VDP doesn't even have a palette to handle it, nor can you upgrade it's color count via more C-RAM. Video overlay is the only solution here, and that's exactly what the 32X does.

    Not to mention PC's did have a highly similar solution at around the same time, and no one complained then.. (3d accelerator cards)

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    The hook-up method of the 32X is the fault of the Genesis not being designed to accept RGB video input from an attached cart. If it could (like it can with sound), then it all could go out of the standard Genesis video jack. But they weren't thinking that when they originally designed the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
    The hook-up method of the 32X is the fault of the Genesis not being designed to accept RGB video input from an attached cart. If it could (like it can with sound), then it all could go out of the standard Genesis video jack. But they weren't thinking that when they originally designed the system.
    True, quite true. The Genesis would then have to have the overlay circuitry itself then.

    If I'm not mistaken, the Japanese Famicom had these inputs, and was taken advantage of too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by evildragon
    Not to mention PC's did have a highly similar solution at around the same time, and no one complained then.. (3d accelerator cards)
    Seriously. PCs back in the day used to be pretty ridiculous. Even before 3D accelerators, there were MPEG decoders (imagine a PC too slow to play back MPEG1 full-screen, yeah) that had passthroughs and later it got even more ridiculous when computers would have a DVD decoder and Voodoo2 cards in SLI. That's THREE passthrough cables. People didn't complain, though, that's just the way it was.

    But oh god, don't let Sega do it to try to improve the Genesis.

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