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Thread: Saturn Shinobi Soundtracks - NTSC vs PAL

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    Default Saturn Shinobi Soundtracks - NTSC vs PAL

    Sonic CD's regional soundtrack variation still gets talked about but Shinobi Legions/Shinobi X's not so much.

    Which do you prefer?

    Shin Shinobi Den and Shinobi Legions (NTSC regions)
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...l5d1FYLjTmUMUG

    Shinobi X (PAL regions)
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...PNWk0-NV7ayKjl

    I love both soundtracks but overall I give the edge to the PAL version despite having experienced the NTSC one many years earlier. I still prefer stage 7-1 harbour music in Legions, though.

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    NTSC for me,I like the PAL soundtrack also though.

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    Wasn't even aware that the NTSC versions had a different soundtrack

    Kind of sounds like the NTSC version is YMF292 based ( while the PAL version uses Redbook Audio )? Can anyone confirm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Wasn't even aware that the NTSC versions had a different soundtrack

    Kind of sounds like the NTSC version is YMF292 based ( while the PAL version uses Redbook Audio )? Can anyone confirm?
    No, both of them are YMF292 based, except for the title screen and credit music tracks which are the only ones to rely on Redbook audio. But this happens in all versions, no matter the soundtrack differences.

    And I think the European soundtrack is way superior and closer to the series trademark music than the original soundtrack which seems clearly sentai style inspired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesker View Post
    No, both of them are YMF292 based, except for the title screen and credit music tracks which are the only ones to rely on Redbook audio.
    Alright, that makes the PAL version even more impressive ( imo )

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Alright, that makes the PAL version even more impressive ( imo )
    If you think that was impressive, take at look at both the memory constraints and tight schedule he had to deal with.

    G: What was the first game that you composed on the Saturn?
    R: Shinobi X on the Saturn. What happened was that they had done the Japanese version and the producer in Sega Europe said that he didn't like the music and he wanted to change it. So he played it for me and said 'Can you redo the music for this?', the only difficult thing was it was all done on the sound chip instead of CD. And I only had 2 weeks to do the whole game that consisted of about 20 tunes. I only had about 200K of memory to play with as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesker View Post
    No, both of them are YMF292 based, except for the title screen and credit music tracks which are the only ones to rely on Redbook audio. But this happens in all versions, no matter the soundtrack differences.

    And I think the European soundtrack is way superior and closer to the series trademark music than the original soundtrack which seems clearly sentai style inspired.
    This.
    The European version has far better instrumentation. The original version has several mediocre tracks IMO.

    Also, god damn the shitty digitized graphics. Could have been much better with proper pixel art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barone View Post
    This.

    Also,the shitty digitized graphics. Could have been much better with proper pixel art.
    Completely agree,shame that wasn't to be.

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    I liked the Japanse version, simply becasue it was the 1st version I played and got used to the music. Lovely game badly letdown with crap graphics and not the best sound. Yuzo should have done the music and it should have been a showcase for Saturn 2D.
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    PAL hands down. The other sounds anemic.



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    I really like Shinobi X. It's not up there with Revenge or Shinobi III on the Mega Drive of course (or even close) but it's a solid game in it's own right and boasts a great soundtrack. As a Saturn title it could have been a lot better of course, but it could also have been a helluva lot worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Drive Bowlsey View Post
    I really like Shinobi X. It's not up there with Revenge or Shinobi III on the Mega Drive of course (or even close) but it's a solid game in it's own right and boasts a great soundtrack. As a Saturn title it could have been a lot better of course, but it could also have been a helluva lot worse!
    Well said, its nowhere near as bad as some love to make out. The game plays nice, but it letdown with rubbish gfx and not the best soundtrack. The early Beta version of the game also looked way better than the final build
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    Should I vote NTSC because it's what I have?

    Legions is a top favorite Saturn game for me for the gameplay. The live action videos in between stages are amusing too.

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    i really like shinobi x, both soundtracks sound fine to me. i just wish it didn't have that darn mine cart level.

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    PAL for me, but that the first version I played. So when I played the NTSC version it felled strange. Both soundtracks have there gems.
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