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Thread: So, Virtua Fighter 3 on Dreamcast was basically arcade perfect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silanda View Post
    To be honest, I'd like to see someone who's really familiar with the game (and preferably has an arcade board) document the differences, because best as I can tell there are no really good comparisons on the net. Personally, I'm inclined to think that the graphic emulation in current WIP builds of Supermodel is good enough to draw rough comparisons from, but running from a real board would eliminate any doubt. There's been too much said over the years that seems to be based on memories that could be called into question, or comparisons between the DC version and the Model 3 promo video (which looked better than the actual game), and it would be nice to finally put this debate to bed with irrefutable proof.
    This.

    But here's what I've noticed in these last years: most people don't play these old games thoroughly anymore.
    The thread I quoted is from 2007 and by now you'd think this debate would have been ended with a detailed comparison like you said; nah. People want to talk about things they don't know and make bold claims about games they don't play anymore.

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    Well there are these videos from real Model 3 hardware:




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    I've always thought that the knock on VF3 was that the changes they made to the fighting system weren't liked by a lot of the fans of the Virtua Fighter games. I avoided buying it, after hearing the rather ho hum reviews for the DC game.
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    BTW, what monitor do you need to play Model 3 board via supergun at home? I guess 15khz TVs won't work with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid87 View Post
    BTW, what monitor do you need to play Model 3 board via supergun at home? I guess 15khz TVs won't work with it?
    Also want to know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Well there are these videos from real Model 3 hardware:


    Yeah and that's the video I linked

    Now is there much difference between that and this, also running on real Hardware

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid87 View Post
    BTW, what monitor do you need to play Model 3 board via supergun at home? I guess 15khz TVs won't work with it?
    https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_d...?game_id=10331
    Code:
    Monitor:
    
    Orientation: Horizontal
    Type: Raster: Medium Resolution
    CRT: Color

    https://www.arcade-museum.com/monitor.html#M
    Code:
                        MEDIUM RESOLUTION
    
              HORIZONTAL                    VERTICAL
    Scan Frequency: 25.00 KHz    Scan Frequency: 60.0 Hz
       Scan Period: 40.0 ÁSec       Scan Period: 16.7 mSec
      Active Video: 32.0 ÁSec      Active Video: 15.4 mSec
       Video Delay:  7.2 ÁSec       Video Delay:  1.2 mSec
        Sync Pulse:  4.0 ÁSec        Sync Pulse:  0.2 mSec
         Scan Line: 640 Pixels           Screen: 416 Lines
        Resolution: 512 Pixels       Resolution: 384 Lines
        Clock Freq: 16.00 MHz

    Also: https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?t=16682

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barone View Post
    https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_d...?game_id=10331
    Code:
    Monitor:
    
    Orientation: Horizontal
    Type: Raster: Medium Resolution
    CRT: Color

    https://www.arcade-museum.com/monitor.html#M
    Code:
                        MEDIUM RESOLUTION
    
              HORIZONTAL                    VERTICAL
    Scan Frequency: 25.00 KHz    Scan Frequency: 60.0 Hz
       Scan Period: 40.0 ÁSec       Scan Period: 16.7 mSec
      Active Video: 32.0 ÁSec      Active Video: 15.4 mSec
       Video Delay:  7.2 ÁSec       Video Delay:  1.2 mSec
        Sync Pulse:  4.0 ÁSec        Sync Pulse:  0.2 mSec
         Scan Line: 640 Pixels           Screen: 416 Lines
        Resolution: 512 Pixels       Resolution: 384 Lines
        Clock Freq: 16.00 MHz

    Also: https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?t=16682
    I mean, out of more easily obtainable ones...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid87 View Post
    I mean, out of more easily obtainable ones...
    What I mean is: it seems that you need a 24 kHz monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    A detailed response telling me how wrong I was and maybe the odd video or picture to back it all up, which is usually what Baron likes to do;
    You want me to stop it?

    Why can't you just stop it yourself?

    You keep saying "insulting" over & over like it's going to change the outcome.

    Here's the thing I can just suggest which can make all of this just go away.



    Stop replying & talking to Barone. You two obviously do not like each other and yet you chose to say something to him in this thread with..

    That is simply not true and a complete load of tosh.
    You started this. Not him. You know how he is and he knows how you are.

    Why you chose to even talk to him knowing full damn well what kind of reply he would give you is beyond me. I can't help but think you want to prove something to him or earn his approval in some strange level of love/hate relationship.

    Either way, stop quoting him or replying to him or even talking to him. If you can do that, I'm pretty sure you'll both be happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonusKun View Post
    You want me to stop it?

    Why can't you just stop it yourself? .
    No, You are the MOD. You gave me a warning and threatened me with a ban for insulting a fellow member. So please, very kindly stop others from insulting fellow members, like you told me.

    You started this. Not him. You know how he is and he knows how you are.
    I know you dislike me, but instead of trying to seek and justify a personal insult and attack, just issue a warning and say it's not correct, After all You did it to me, and part of being a MOD is you have to be fair, impartial and also constant.
    Barno is always very dismissive of my comments (far more than just saying a load of old tosh) but I don't look to insult him on a personal level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    Barno is always very dismissive of my comments (far more than just saying a load of old tosh) but I don't look to insult him on a personal level.
    His name is Barone, why oh why won't you proof read what you post?

    He said you were a "blind fanboy" which is true since you always seem to act that way. You then started your usual attempt at shit stirring by bringing up old disagreements in order to disrupt and derail the thread.

    A better course of action would have been to have followed what BonusKun told you, which is not to reply in the 1st place with your "utter tosh" statement, which was a rude and dismissive comment for you to make.

    Stop playing the victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    No, You are the MOD.
    That's right a mod job is to stop this crap. And yet I'm giving you the option to stop it on your own. You're a grown adult and you can't just put Barone on Ignore?

    Is that so hard for you to do?

    Don't go off with the he insulted me crap when you insulted him with with that "utter tosh" comment first.


    P.S. I don't dislike you. I just dislike how you're acting right now.
    05/05/15

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu View Post

    He said you were a "blind fanboy" which is true since you always seem to act that way. tatement.
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    I don't play the victim. Just like some people defend and praise the Mega Drive, I do that for the Saturn and DC and if I told by a MOD that posting an insult to a fellow member is wrong and not to be tolerated; Then it should apply across the board and MOD needs to be impartial, fair and consistent. Yes its a pain being a MOD


    Let's look at what Barone has to say to people that dare even try to have a debate (not me btw, so I'm not the victim)

    Pretty much everything you said in this thread is either partially or completely wrong; or just plain made up bullshit.
    Bullshit.
    Charming and what a way to encourage a debate.

    So lets the bull and also this fanboy nonsense, because It is quite clear when to the MD its a different matter. Somehow then its ok for people defend the system, praise the games and rubbish people comments who dare to find faults or issues with the games or Hardware

    Now, What are the main differences between this



    And this




    I'm not seeing many at all, are you ?
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    So here's the main question.

    Why won't you put Barone on ignore?
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