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    Default Four different Populous revisions? What is different?

    So in my continuing quest to find all of the variations of Genesis games, I ran into something that I can't really find anything about. OK I know that cart labels are a niche thing and not everyone cares about those types of things. However, since I have found there are four different "versions" of Populous on Genesis (and likely some amount of cross-over to EU carts) I am wondering what is different between these?

    Does this indicate that there are different ROM versions? Or is the internal construction (PCB/chip) different inside?

    As variations go, in general, I can't find any difference in boxes. All of the boxes seem to be the same. Here is what I found:

    7016


    7016 (B) label


    7016 C printed on label


    7016 C white circle (label?) <--- this appears to be the most common on Ebay currently.


    7016 D printed? on label
    Not entirely cure about this. This is the only pic of a D version that didn't look like it had a label.


    7016 D label


    Now I need to figure out which of these I have myself.
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    My guess would be that it's related to a ROM revision to make the game TMSS-compliant.

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    Pretty neat find! Unfortunately I don't have an answer as to differences.

    I track all the variants I can verify, but I have a CIB focus, so I haven't gotten down to this level of variance when the differences aren't noticeable at a CIB level:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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    Nearly all carts on ebay UK are the D variants (printed & label)

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    ROM sites are a good place to tell if a game has multiple versions. I checked my favorite ROM site and it shows that Populous has USA, European, and Japanese versions, but no revisions for each of those.

    There is some detailed info here: https://segaretro.org/Populous

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    It turns out I have the regular 7016 cart. I will have to keep a lookout for the other carts if I happen upon them. I'm not sure how I can determine what ROM is on my cart, is this something the Retron 5 can show?
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    This may be a stupid suggestion, but could the different letters just denote different manufacturing batches? I know it probably isn't just a batch designation because other EA titles weren't labelled A, B, C etc, but it is a possibility.

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    It is one of the earliest Genesis titles, so it is possible that EA had smaller production runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Moham View Post
    This may be a stupid suggestion, but could the different letters just denote different manufacturing batches? I know it probably isn't just a batch designation because other EA titles weren't labelled A, B, C etc, but it is a possibility.
    I thought of it also. Many other EA titles have A revs, and so far the only one I know for sure to have a different ROM is PGA Tour Golf II.
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    Budokan has multiple letters like this also. As it appears on SegaRetro, it implies there are different ROMs for US vs EU
    https://segaretro.org/Budokan:_The_M...OM_dump_status

    A quick look on Ebay shows the breakdown like this (I only looked at loose cart listings)
    US
    - no letter
    - C in circle (printed)
    - white C label
    EU
    - D in circle (Printed)
    - D in circle (label)

    Also I wanted to note that there are different cart labels. Not sure if I noticed that with Populous or not. At least for Budokan, the cart number is in a different place when the letter is added after it, vs put on there below it.

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    Zany Golf has different cart labels, and a revision letter between the US and EU releases.

    All US carts seem to have letter C printed on the label
    All EU carts seem to have letter D printed on the label

    I was not able to find any sans-letter, A or B labels, but I didn't dig too deep into it.
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