Vertical lines in picture

[Shinobi69]

I finally got a genesis that works correctly, and the AV cables. Only problem is, the games have verticlal lines in the background. They aren't totally making the games unplayable, but just in the background (especially when certain colors are on the screen) you can see these vertical lines in the background. This is using the AV cables, with the video plug in the video jack. Has anyone experienced this?

[segagamer]

I have that problem as well, and I think it is because it was the early revision of model 1. The later model 1 with hardware lock-out/regional check program does not have the problem you and I have encountered.

[Shinobi69]

I have that problem as well, and I think it is because it was the early revision of model 1. The later model 1 with hardware lock-out/regional check program does not have the problem you and I have encountered.

my genesis is a model 2 though..

[Joe Redifer]

Slap a 32X on there with all of the proper cables and it will go away.

[Genesis Knight]

I think I'm having the same problems...my thread is in Tech Aid.

[Shinobi69]

Slap a 32X on there with all of the proper cables and it will go away.

From what i've read, isn't a bitch to install the 32X? is there a certain cable that has to be modded or something? does the 32X improve the picture quality of Genesis games at all?

[Obviously]

I don't know where you read that. Why would an official product require you to mod your system? Installing a 32X is as easy as inserting it like a game and hooking it up like any other system. Just make sure you get one with both cables (The power cable and the cable that connects to the Genesis) and the metal clips that help hold it in place on the Model 2.

[Shinobi69]

I don't know where you read that. Why would an official product require you to mod your system? Installing a 32X is as easy as inserting it like a game and hooking it up like any other system. Just make sure you get one with both cables (The power cable and the cable that connects to the Genesis) and the metal clips that help hold it in place on the Model 2.

Obviously: have you noticed that playing Genesis games throught the 32X gets rid of those vertical lines in the background of some Genesis games?

[Obviously]

I can't really answer that because I've never had the problem. Sorry.

[Joe Redifer]

I'm telling you that it does. Genesis games look sharper through the 32X because the 32X has a much better RGB-to-composite chip than the regular Genesis (at least the model 1).

[Joe Redifer]

OK this was the best I could do. Check out the two pics from the opening of Revenge of Shinobi below:


See the colored vertical lines? Are these what you are talking about?

No check out:


This is the same game and the same system, but running through a 32X. The 32X cleans up the composite video considerably.

[Shinobi69]

awesome job Joe Redifer, you're the kind of providing examples! looks like the 32x may be the easiest way to get rid of these lines. it gets rid of them for all games?

[Joe Redifer]

Yes. Basically what the 32X does is take the RGB output from the Genesis as its input. It then goes through a genlock and a whole bunch of other nonsense all in the RGB domain. The 32X composite video chip is much better than the one inside the Genesis 1, or maybe even the Genesis 2 (I've never seen a model 2 that wasn't burning in the trash). So the lines will always be gone with the 32X if you have it hooked up properly (all the patch cables and whatnot). I never take my 32X off of my Genesis unless I use the Power Base Converter to play Master System games.

[Obviously]

(I've never seen a model 2 that wasn't burning in the trash)

Oh now that's a low blow...

[Shinobi69]

Yes. Basically what the 32X does is take the RGB output from the Genesis as its input. It then goes through a genlock and a whole bunch of other nonsense all in the RGB domain. The 32X composite video chip is much better than the one inside the Genesis 1, or maybe even the Genesis 2 (I've never seen a model 2 that wasn't burning in the trash). So the lines will always be gone with the 32X if you have it hooked up properly (all the patch cables and whatnot). I never take my 32X off of my Genesis unless I use the Power Base Converter to play Master System games.

I recently got the AV cables (video jack, audio jacks) for the genesis 2, and i noticed that the picture is kinda noisy, almost more so than using the RF adapter. Will using a 32X help clean up video noise as well?