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    Every Sega Master System game is compatible on the Genesis with a "Power Base Converter" except F-16 Fighting Falcon. Correct? But some games don't support the 3 button Genesis controller. You have to use the original SMS controller.

    Are these the only SMS games that don't work with the Genesis controller?

    Alien Syndrome
    Bomber Raid
    Great Volleyball
    Montezuma's Revenge
    Penguin Land
    Shanghai
    Tennis Ace
    Where in the World is Carmen San Diego
    Wonder Boy in Monster Land


    How well do the rest of the SMS games work with the 6-button controller?

    Also has anybody made any rom patches to fix the controller support for the above games?

    Now that I'm thinking about it I wonder if a generic patch or program could be made to patch all SMS games to support the Genesis "start" button as a pause button. That'd be nice, but since I don't know the first thing about rom hacking I don't know if that would even be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric83 View Post
    Every Sega Master System game is compatible on the Genesis with a "Power Base Converter" except F-16 Fighting Falcon. Correct? But some games don't support the 3 button Genesis controller. You have to use the original SMS controller.

    Are these the only SMS games that don't work with the Genesis controller?

    Alien Syndrome
    Bomber Raid
    Great Volleyball
    Montezuma's Revenge
    Penguin Land
    Shanghai
    Tennis Ace
    Where in the World is Carmen San Diego
    Wonder Boy in Monster Land


    How well do the rest of the SMS games work with the 6-button controller?

    Also has anybody made any rom patches to fix the controller support for the above games?

    Now that I'm thinking about it I wonder if a generic patch or program could be made to patch all SMS games to support the Genesis "start" button as a pause button. That'd be nice, but since I don't know the first thing about rom hacking I don't know if that would even be possible.
    Just Open up the controller clip the gray wire and those games you listed will work w/ a Genesis controller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse813 View Post
    Just Open up the controller clip the gray wire and those games you listed will work w/ a Genesis controller
    Really it's that simple? What does that do to the Genesis controller? Can I still use it with Genesis games?

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    I wouldn't use it for genesis games, and I'm guessing it doesn't work with them, but I've never tried my sacrificial 3 Button Pad w/ any genesis games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse813 View Post
    I wouldn't use it for genesis games, and I'm guessing it doesn't work with them, but I've never tried my sacrificial 3 Button Pad w/ any genesis games
    I'm guessing this only works with the 3 button not the 6 button? I have a spare semi-functional 6 button pad I'd be willing to sacrifice.

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    it should work also w/ the 6 button pad, i just chose to use a 3 button pad.

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    What you're cutting is the select line. Without it, the controller only ever returns S, A, and the dpad. All the other buttons are read by toggling the select line - in the case of a 6 button pad, a lot of toggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse813 View Post
    it should work also w/ the 6 button pad, i just chose to use a 3 button pad.
    Good, the next time I come across one of those games I'll sacrifice my controller and try it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    What you're cutting is the select line. Without it, the controller only ever returns S, A, and the dpad. All the other buttons are read by toggling the select line - in the case of a 6 button pad, a lot of toggling.

    Wait I thought with the Genesis controller

    B=SMS Button 1
    C=SMS Button 2

    So if I did this I'd have to use Start and A instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric83 View Post
    Wait I thought with the Genesis controller

    B=SMS Button 1
    C=SMS Button 2

    So if I did this I'd have to use Start and A instead?
    Oh, you're right. Sorry about that. It's C and B, not S and A. I get those mixed up unless I look at my pad reading routines.

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    I am fairly sure that Sports Pad Football and Great Ice Hockey won't work with a Genesis control pad no mater which lines you cut. I'm also kind of sure Light Phaser games won't work either with any control pad as well.

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    A though: you might considder adding a little switch rather than just cutting the line so you can still use it as a genesis controller as well as on SMS for the few problematic games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kool kitty89 View Post
    A though: you might considder adding a little switch rather than just cutting the line so you can still use it as a genesis controller as well as on SMS for the few problematic games.
    Good idea. I need to do that to one of my controllers.

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    I'm very motivated on working out something regarding pause button and controllers.........
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    if only those damn SMS controllers had pause buttons instead i have off to up during game to pause it
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Redifer View Post
    I am fairly sure that Sports Pad Football and Great Ice Hockey won't work with a Genesis control pad no mater which lines you cut. I'm also kind of sure Light Phaser games won't work either with any control pad as well.
    luckily i never plan on playing those games
    Last edited by Jesse813; 01-12-2010 at 02:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TmEE View Post
    I'm very motivated on working out something regarding pause button and controllers.........
    Some more or less random SMSPower links regarding the mod:


    http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewt...?p=29255#29255

    http://www.smspower.org/smscartpad/pausebtn.htm

    http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=50027

    http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=47153

    http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=44261
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