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Genesis Knight
05-14-2018, 09:17 AM
https://twitter.com/gosokkyu/status/995825505197735937

Video inside. Pretty sweet.

"Remember when Hidecade said his MD Darius "port" was just a proof-of-concept programming exercise and he didn't intend to port the entire game? oops, he's pretty much ported the entire game."

netpredakonn
05-14-2018, 09:48 AM
https://twitter.com/gosokkyu/status/995825505197735937

Video inside. Pretty sweet.

"Remember when Hidecade said his MD Darius "port" was just a proof-of-concept programming exercise and he didn't intend to port the entire game? oops, he's pretty much ported the entire game."

Biggest POC ever, LOL

I really hope he releases this, it would be nothing short of great.

Chev Chelios
05-14-2018, 10:45 AM
Biggest POC ever, LOL

I really hope he releases this, it would be nothing short of great.

OMFG this is amazing, Darius, Shinobi, Papi, Tanglewood, Xeno Crisis. Great year.

Sik
05-14-2018, 11:03 AM
"Remember when Hidecade said his MD Darius "port" was just a proof-of-concept programming exercise and he didn't intend to port the entire game? oops, he's pretty much ported the entire game."
This is pretty much true for the Cave Story port too if I recall correctly.

EmperorIng
05-15-2018, 02:16 AM
Oh man, that's amazing! I wonder if he was using Super Darius on the PCE as a base for the programming (and for transplanting a single-screen variant of Darius). I am a huge Darius fanboy, so I am hoping for a release!! I am also impressed that the music almost sounds identical; I would have thought the 2612 couldn't handle all the exact same instruments as on a 2151 chip, which is what I think Darius uses.

zyrobs
05-15-2018, 10:13 AM
Oh man, I want to play this so much. The first Darius is still one of my favourite shmups. The music is so damn eerie, great to hear that it is almost identical.

Also it looks like playing in single screen actually helps the game in some regards, the boss fights in that video look much easier - or at least, Fatty Glutton and Green Coronatus definitely do look easier, those are the two bosses I just can't deal with no matter what.

Chev Chelios
06-09-2018, 09:39 AM
Good Morning

Today is a very special day, actually it was day 3, but we do not have so much news like this from Japan.
On June 3, Mr. Hidecade, 46, finished the Darius port for the Mega Drive, is a very special news for all of us, and a great victory for him that programs the game more than 3 years, a game that he played after school.

Thief
06-09-2018, 10:56 AM
Link?

Pyron
06-09-2018, 12:48 PM
Link?

https://ameblo.jp/arcade-cabinet/
http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/1806/08/news140.html

also you can go on his twitter account

smokemonster
06-09-2018, 09:25 PM
Extremely cool :cool:

vash999
06-11-2018, 11:25 PM
Is the beta of the game available for download?
Where could you download if it was like that?

chinitosoccer
06-12-2018, 10:45 PM
Is the beta of the game available for download?
Where could you download if it was like that?

I highly doubt that this will be ever get released, I have seen this happen many times, like with the Gradius and Parasol Stars ports for the SMS, also with many ports, hacks and never released prototypes for the MSX, which has a big dev scene in Japan until this day, it seems like its a common practice among japanese retro systems scene developers, they first tease people with something cool, share their progress for some time until they pretty much tell you to screw ys because you ain't gonna touch their work, their excuse is always that they do not want to violate any intellectual property laws, or something like that, I don't know if that's true, but I think it's very unlikely that a company like Sega would be interested in sueing people for launching a demo for a 20+ year old machine that is no longer making them any money.

Chev Chelios
06-13-2018, 02:55 AM
I highly doubt that this will be ever get released, I have seen this happen many times, like with the Gradius and Parasol Stars ports for the SMS, also with many ports, hacks and never released prototypes for the MSX, which has a big dev scene in Japan until this day, it seems like its a common practice among japanese retro systems scene developers, they first tease people with something cool, share their progress for some time until they pretty much tell you to screw ys because you ain't gonna touch their work, their excuse is always that they do not want to violate any intellectual property laws, or something like that, I don't know if that's true, but I think it's very unlikely that a company like Sega would be interested in sueing people for launching a demo for a 20+ year old machine that is no longer making them any money.

I have deep respect for all creators, never rushed into releases that I helped or donated.
This guy did a great job, but at the end of the day doing something like that, exposing the whole process and in terms of video games and not sharing, is kind of perverted.

netpredakonn
06-13-2018, 10:30 AM
I have deep respect for all creators, never rushed into releases that I helped or donated.
This guy did a great job, but at the end of the day doing something like that, exposing the whole process and in terms of video games and not sharing, is kind of perverted.

To me, it is quite clear that this is something that he was doing just for fun, with no intention of ever releasing it. I don't see any with that. It's not like this is a game that we can't already play on other platforms.

What would be nice of him to do, if he feels like, is to release the source without the graphic and music assets. It could be used as an engine for an original horizontal shmup on MD, which would be great.

Gryson
06-13-2018, 10:48 AM
I'm not sure we need two threads for this (original here: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?32606-Japanese-Homebrew-Games/), but as I said in the other thread...

Hidecade made this to both get other Japanese people interested in MD development and to learn SGDK with the hopes of one day releasing an original game.

Anybody who thinks they have some right to his work or that he is obligated to share it are, frankly, entitled, and that's the exact attitude which pushes creators away.

If you're interested in Hidecade's work, then voice your support so that he will use what he's learned to make an original game. Voicing your frustrations of entitlement will only push him away.

chinitosoccer
06-13-2018, 04:46 PM
If you're interested in Hidecade's work, then voice your support so that he will use what he's learned to make an original game

Then he would think that we have some right to his work or that he is obligated to share it, he could think that we think we are frankly entitled to his original game, and with that exact attitude, he will be then pushed away.


PS: nobody voiced sh1t.

Sik
06-13-2018, 05:12 PM
Yet for people who speak English we have absolutely no issue doing that here by begging for cartridge preorders from day one.

That said, I remember the argument being made that Japanese users making Mario hacks don't want the attention at all to the point that merely linking to some video they upload publicly was considered grounds for banning because what if they get scared and go away forever (probably because one person who got nagged to hell and had bad attitude for starters may have quit). In practice it turns out it's just language barrier as usual and that they simply don't know how to reach people who don't speak Japanese. It's not just homebrew, I'm seeing this with fandoms in general as well (people starting to resort to translators to reply to English posts).

That said, that the Pac-Man source code was released but with the assets changed makes me convinced that lack of ROM release is entirely for legal reasons and nothing else. And that's assuming he doesn't just change his mind.

Bottino
06-13-2018, 08:47 PM
Yet for people who speak English we have absolutely no issue doing that here by begging for cartridge preorders from day one.



I honestly cannot understand this obsession that people have with physical releases and all the package; and it's not just that, they need to proudly demonstrate the stuff they bought like it's an archeological discovery or something.


That said, that the Pac-Man source code was released but with the assets changed makes me convinced that lack of ROM release is entirely for legal reasons and nothing else. And that's assuming he doesn't just change his mind.

Copyright laws can be scary. I mean, the government needs to watch out for these huge companies, make sure that no one violates their rights.

Curiously, Japan doesn't seem to be afraid or concerned about child pornography, since up until 2014 possessing child pornography wasn't a crime there (http://time.com/2892728/japan-finally-bans-child-pornography/) ( and naturally, this doesn't apply to Hentai - japanese society would surely collapse if that was the case ) or having young men and women killing themselves or dying from overwork (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/death-from-overwork-japans-karoshi-culture-blamed-young-mans-heart-failure) at their companies.

Bottino
07-05-2018, 11:22 PM
http://gaming.moe/?p=2938

That interesting piece explains it all.


(...) It also emboldened other companies to go after fan works: A year later, Nintendo would have a Pokemon doujinshi artist arrested to essentially “make an example” out of them in a similar incident.

zyrobs
02-18-2019, 10:17 PM
So in the end, nothing was released of this at all? Even the relevant tweets and youtube videos have been since removed. I would've gladly bought a copy if they could have made a small print run of carts, or even put the rom up on steam or so. With Darius Burst having had a PC release a few years ago, maybe the rights owner would be interested too, after all they would not need to code anything, just do QA testing and publish it (and, well, ordering repro carts from china).

LinkueiBR
02-19-2019, 08:31 PM
So sad to see his hard and incredible work not released or preserved for all the Mega Drive fans... :\

chrisw80
06-04-2019, 07:48 PM
https://kotaku.com/the-genesis-mini-will-include-a-fan-made-game-1835243583

highlandcattle
06-05-2019, 03:46 PM
https://kotaku.com/the-genesis-mini-will-include-a-fan-made-game-1835243583

Holy smokes that is some good news! This port of Darius kinda forces me to buy the Mega Drive Mini!

Vludi
06-06-2019, 12:37 AM
Knew this guy would find a way to release it in one way or another, great news.

Tor Landeel
06-06-2019, 06:12 AM
Do anyone knows if he works now for M2? Because apparently, "the version of Darius on the Genesis Mini is a totally new version ported by the developer M2, and not based on the fan work."
That would be the only explanation..

Barone
06-06-2019, 09:47 AM
Because apparently, "the version of Darius on the Genesis Mini is a totally new version ported by the developer M2, and not based on the fan work."
That's PR bs from people that probably not even know what a "Darius" is.
Kotaku often has stupid articles and correct them after a few days; journalism is not their forte.

This what I think that happened:
- Hidecade developed the port.
- Hidecade even produced tabletop arcade units based on it, specialized JP magazines covered it.
- M2 took notice of this port while researching Darius-related stuff for their Darius Cozmic Collection.
- When SOJ approached them about the MD mini, they reached out Hidecade and made a deal with him.
- M2 had already built a relationship with Taito for the Cozmic Collection, so they just used it now to get Zuntata to review/approve the music and M2 probably tested/debugged it based on their arcade versions knowledge.

I doubt that M2 didn't put their own stuff in this new port though, since that's one of their usual moves. Maybe extra bosses and other options not initially planned by Hidecade.