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Greg2600
11-08-2019, 02:09 AM
https://twitter.com/Ced2911/status/1192201049198739458

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First prototype for the saturn disc emulator (Fenrir). Games load fine. Need more testing but the end IS near :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIuMhWfWkAEx9Kd?format=jpg

This is a French developer, who seems to be quite far along with this. This is a disc drive replacement I assume.

Greg2600
02-01-2020, 11:31 PM
https://www.retrorgb.com/fenrir-sega-saturn-ode-updates.html

First batch is shipping. Next run will be 50 units. Cost is around 80 EUR, very cool. Uses SD card, supports both CCD/IMG and CUE/ISO disc images. Only 20 pin Saturn's are supported currently.

Installation: https://www.fenrir-ode.fr/installation/

https://twitter.com/Ced2911/status/1223619644440924160

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPsrkZtWoAEkL82?format=jpg&name=900x900

Leynos
02-02-2020, 02:33 AM
I love the idea of these but I'm a fucking retard who has never done a mod or knows how to Sauder. I have never messed with ROMs or emus. Like I said I'm retarded. I have a Spare US Saturn where the disc drive is dead. A Spare DC that has yellowed over time and would love to convert them but no idea where to go from here. I feel like if I found someone to do it. They would either overcharge taking advantage and/or fill the damn thing with hot glue.

Gryson
02-02-2020, 08:53 PM
I love the idea of these but I'm a fucking retard who has never done a mod or knows how to Sauder. I have never messed with ROMs or emus. Like I said I'm retarded. I have a Spare US Saturn where the disc drive is dead. A Spare DC that has yellowed over time and would love to convert them but no idea where to go from here. I feel like if I found someone to do it. They would either overcharge taking advantage and/or fill the damn thing with hot glue.

You only live once! Give it a try and if you mess up - oh well, you're just out some money. But if you succeed then you have learned a new skill and all that comes with it.

Raijin Z
02-02-2020, 09:35 PM
Soldering is easy. There are plenty of videos on Youtube to teach you how not to do it like a thumb-fisted mong. I regret paying thousands of dollars for my electronic engineering degree.

Greg2600
02-02-2020, 10:04 PM
Hang on, the Fenrir is PLUG N PLAY, there's no soldering. The installation is incredibly easy. The device hasn't been thoroughly tested in terms of game compatibility.

zyrobs
02-03-2020, 04:16 AM
https://www.retrorgb.com/fenrir-sega-saturn-ode-updates.html


Rhea/Phoebe updates are almost unheard of, and setup is unnecessarily difficult and convoluted. I actually sold my own Rhea out of disappointment and decided to wait for better options. Fenrir is shaping up to be that option so far, for me at least.

hahahaha what

that's the stupidest thing I've read in a long while.

gamevet
02-07-2020, 11:57 AM
Soldering is easy. There are plenty of videos on Youtube to teach you how not to do it like a thumb-fisted mong. I regret paying thousands of dollars for my electronic engineering degree.

Yeah, I ended up in the network communications line of work. My degree in the applied science of electronics isnít getting much use, other than being able to troubleshoot issues very easily.

CrossBow
02-07-2020, 12:10 PM
hahahaha what

that's the stupidest thing I've read in a long while.

Yeah...what? I've got a Rhea in my saturn. It is literally just a ribbon cable and another small plug for the power. No soldering required either. Just pull out the original drive and place the Rhea in its place and plug it in. Installing a modchip board into the Saturn is more difficult and that is also a dead easy task with very little soldering required.

zyrobs
02-07-2020, 06:29 PM
Yeah...what? I've got a Rhea in my saturn. It is literally just a ribbon cable and another small plug for the power. No soldering required either. Just pull out the original drive and place the Rhea in its place and plug it in. Installing a modchip board into the Saturn is more difficult and that is also a dead easy task with very little soldering required.

The post I quoted says that the process you described is "unnecessarily difficult and convoluted", and that Fenrir looks like a "better option", despite that installation will most likely be the exact same process as with the Rhea (since it is also a drive replacement).

Joe Redifer
02-07-2020, 07:17 PM
Only 20 pin Saturn's are supported currently.


Soooo.... is that model 1 or model 2? Everyone can discern model 1 or 2 at a glance, even SegataS (kidding). But they have to be opened up to discern the number of pins. There are different revisions of the model 2, right?

CrossBow
02-07-2020, 07:41 PM
20 pin are model 1 units. 21 pin started with the model 2....

Leynos
02-07-2020, 07:45 PM
Both my working Grey Japanese Saturn and my non-working US Saturn are model 1.

zyrobs
02-07-2020, 10:23 PM
20 pin are model 1 units. 21 pin started with the model 2....

Plenty of model 1s have 21pin drives.
Unlike other consoles, model 1/2 is mainly just an aesthetic difference for the Saturn. The only hardware tweak was removing the access led and the memory erase button, the motherboards stayed the same.

Leynos
02-08-2020, 01:18 AM
In that case, could it be identified by a few digits of a serial number? Or a after or before a certain manufacure date listed on the console?

zyrobs
02-08-2020, 10:18 AM
Yeah, the motherboard type is in the serial (assuming no one swapped the internals). VA0 and VA1 boards have 20 pin drives.

Joe Redifer
02-13-2020, 05:42 AM
So what are the advantages of the 21 pin models? That's a whole extra pin! They wouldn't just go and add an entire pin if it didn't reap some mega-sweet benefits. Like, is there an extra line of resolution in some games? Or can the 21 pin models put an extra sprite on screen maybe? Or perhaps loading 2MB of data now only takes 3.868858 seconds instead of 3.868859 seconds? That would be pretty bad-ass! I can see why they added the extra pin.

Sega is awesome.

gamevet
02-13-2020, 10:54 PM
It's the parity pin for awesome!