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    Genesis A look at an Interesting type of Sega Genesis Model - 3 by Majesco, official?

    Oh no, I bought a phony clone! Yet not your not regular, cheap clone on a blob and possibly officially released by SEGA?



    There is really not much information I could find about this clone so I need your opinions on this please.
    So yeah, I got my hands on a boxed Sega Genesis model 3 that apparently was distributed in Latin America by Majesco? I thought it was an original and could have returned it but something about it made me decide to keep it, keep reading.

    So the first thing you'll notice is the stripes on the box are rather greenish if you will.




    It came with av cables (yellow & white only), the plug, 2x(6-button controllers) and the console, all nicely packaged.





    Now the system itself, it didn't originally come with the LED you see on it, that was me. :P
    It did however come with a switch below that I later learned it switches from NTSC to JAP.

    The console itself has a rather more slimmer/shiny style to it than the original.






    Based on the only information I could find for this,
    http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/...no-fake.13149/ (This was goes back to 2004)
    http://retrogaming.com.ar/forum/view...hp?f=4&t=11897 (His console doesn't match the one on the box)
    http://www.gooddealgames.com/article...20History.html



    So my only question at this point is, was this clone really officially licensed by SEGA and distributed by Majesco?

    Extra photos,
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psjwsye16v.jpg
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psgrvubxc6.jpg
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psjxv8ji5o.jpg
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psv07qsr6t.jpg
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...pshsqw0gkd.jpg
    http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psc81sqlbx.jpg


    Now last but not least, compatibility test!


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    This is an official Sega Genesis. My only gripe since I got it on day 1 was that it released Mono sound only. Which was a huge disappointment for me back in the day. On the other hand, the 6-button controller it came with became my single most favorite Genesis pad of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16 View Post
    I thought it was an original and could have returned it but something about it made me decide to keep it
    Uhm.. huh? It's a Genesis 3. It's original, unless I'm missing something. Are you saying you've never seen or heard of the Genesis 3??? And Majesco distributed them in the US (store I worked at had it in late 90's).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomaitheous View Post
    Uhm.. huh? It's a Genesis 3. It's original, unless I'm missing something. Are you saying you've never seen or heard of the Genesis 3??? And Majesco distributed them in the US (store I worked at had it in late 90's).
    Do "official" Majesco Gen 3's have that "16 bit console" written on the sticker on the underside of the system?

    The one's I'm aware of have "Genesis System Console" on that sticker.

    And his specifies "1.2A". All the Genesis 3 systems that I've come across are 0.3A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomaitheous View Post
    Uhm.. huh? It's a Genesis 3. It's original, unless I'm missing something. Are you saying you've never seen or heard of the Genesis 3??? And Majesco distributed them in the US (store I worked at had it in late 90's).
    I'd just thought the model 3s that were VA 1 and VA 2s were the only type off legit, official model 3s released by SEGA.
    I had no idea about these and first assumed it was just a generic, cheap, clone console on a single chip till I opened it up.
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    That Genesis 3 looks like a blatant fake:

    • The colors of the box are wrong (should be much bluer, think Sega CD games =P)
    • The controller lacks the normal/turbo/slow switch
    • The real thing doesn't have that LED thingy at the bottom
    • The real thing is 10V 0.3A (and the sticker is meant to be much smaller for starters)


    So huh yeah, fake.

    That said, when they go this far to try to look original by general rule you can expect a decent clone (・・ )

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    The top row of buttons on the controller have the same color tone like those for my knock off Model 2.



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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickSciFi View Post
    This is an official Sega Genesis. My only gripe since I got it on day 1 was that it released Mono sound only. Which was a huge disappointment for me back in the day. On the other hand, the 6-button controller it came with became my single most favorite Genesis pad of all time.
    Is it possible to sharpen the image on it's AV? Really doubt I can pull s-video out of this thing.
    What about the sound too, can it be improved on the board? It doesn't sound that bad, like only 1 sound channel sounds high pitch, here's a video I uploaded.



    Pic of the board


    Found this but I can't understand what exactly he's doing to his MD.
    http://sblive.narod.ru/SEGA/TCT6035NTSC/TCT6035NTSC.htm
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    Yeeeeeeeeep clone.

    Also that looks like a region switch mod to me. As for the sharpened pixels, those may very well already be like that: not the same chip but still same family, I had a TCT-6705 based clone and its composite output was indeed that absurdly sharp (provided you used a good enough TV - amusingly, we found such a TV, no idea what's the exact model sadly but it's a Philips one, and not a CRT). Sadly, NTSC's colorburst resolution is good for like about 170px at most (color was a low priority) so color bleeding still happened, but as far as luminance went, it was crystal clear.

    You'll have to check yourself what the chip is doing, the TCT-6705 clone I had left 49 of its pins unconncted O.O so there were probably some goodies there, but this one already looks to be using most of it.

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    @Thunderblaze16,

    The OP in that thread (beginning of the year) has one like yours with that switch. Pity he didn't take pics of the inside to compare.

    http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...-3-AC-adapters
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    Guys, this is an official Model 3. It is the same one I bought day 1 back in the day; picked from amongst a stack of them at Toys R Us. The box is official. How is it even a question?

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    Definitely a clone. The Tectoy chipset was made in the mid 2000s not in the 90s. Box and controllers also look cheap. The controllers are common for the late 2000s, they are still produced today.
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    Even if it's a clone, it's a clone with effort put in to it.

    It's shit like a single blob on a board that I personally can't stand but there are clones out there that have more to offer inside and those I tend to appreciate the work that was put on them.

    Look at this image, I wouldn't mine getting the middle and top one, just to see how they run and sound but wouldn't expect jack from the bottom one.
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    Box = Original
    Console = Official model 3
    Controller = Original 6-button; not the one that came with the system.

    Seriously, do I need to facepalm this thread?


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    My bad. The system looks diff from mine.
    The box looks the same, but with the exception of a sticker on the bottom right on the back denoting:
    Game Deck Assembled in Mexico
    Control Pad made in China
    AC Adapter made in Taiwan
    AV Cable Mase in China
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickSciFi View Post
    Guys, this is an official Model 3. It is the same one I bought day 1 back in the day; picked from amongst a stack of them at Toys R Us. The box is official. How is it even a question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by retrospiel View Post
    The controllers are common for the late 2000s, they are still produced today.
    We should start using controllers as currency, they're quite abundant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16 View Post
    Even if it's a clone, it's a clone with effort put in to it.

    It's shit like a single blob on a board that I personally can't stand but there are clones out there that have more to offer inside and those I tend to appreciate the work that was put on them.

    Look at this image, I wouldn't mine getting the middle and top one, just to see how they run and sound but wouldn't expect jack from the bottom one.
    http://sblive.narod.ru/ZX-Spectrum/Z...egradation.jpg
    I don't know, the Mega 3 (the clone I had) was pretty much like the one at the bottom being just a single chip (except unblobbed, it was a TCT-6705) and it could handle Overdrive just fine (even some supposedly "accurate" clones trip over the "your emulator suxx" message). Being a tiny board with a single chip doesn't necessarily mean it's awful.

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