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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    No they donít. Iím telling you, Teraflops is marketing bullshit, just like PS2 can draw 100 million polygons was for Sony..


    Channels like JaysTwoCents, Hardware unboxed, Linus Media Group and Gamerís Nexus rarely mention TF, and when they do, they pretty much blow it off.

    HBís review of the 6800 only mentions ROPs, CUs and Cores in this GPU review, which I highly doubt youíll watch.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxrrrkkTjc
    Which system had the more powerful GPU.The One X or the PS 4 Pro?
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    You already know that answer and TF wasnít the real measuring stick if it was. It has nothing to do with the next gen. My old 9 TF GTX 1080 would be a hair slower than the PS5 GPU, which we all know it isnít, especially since itís using GDDR5X, which isnít part of the TF (bull shit) figure.
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    And comparing Nvidia flops to AMD is not the same.

    Life!? ... What console is that on?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaAMD View Post
    And both are making consoles for people to buy unlike SEGA now huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leynos View Post
    And comparing Nvidia flops to AMD is not the same.
    Itís a nonsense number; just like mips were in the 90s. Alright, itís not totally useless. The Series X Halo demoís graphics were aTeraflop with critics, despite the powerful GPU in the console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamevet View Post
    You already know that answer and TF wasnít the real measuring stick if it was. .
    No having a 6 Teraflop Vs 4 Teraflops GPU wasn't a measuring stick that most used? Facts are the Series X SOC is faster and bigger than the PS5 SOC, it's more powerful.
    Hopefully 6 months down the line MS will be able to show it off, but I have my doubts on that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Andromeda View Post
    No having a 6 Teraflop Vs 4 Teraflops GPU wasn't a measuring stick that most used? Facts are the Series X SOC is faster and bigger than the PS5 SOC, it's more powerful.
    Hopefully 6 months down the line MS will be able to show it off, but I have my doubts on that one

    Itís a measuring stick for dummies.

    The Series S has @ the same TF rating as the PS4 Pro, yet it canít/wonít do 4k.

    The RTX 3080 has over 14 Tera-Flops, but not all of it will be used for calculating Vectors. Itíll also be used for calculating integers.
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    DF faceoff Dirt 5 shows that the ps5 is more powerful regardless of the numbers say, the PS5 architecture is simply better

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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaAMD View Post
    DF faceoff Dirt 5 shows that the ps5 is more powerful regardless of the numbers say, the PS5 architecture is simply better
    You of all people have no real grounds to say what is better then what....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonusKun View Post
    You of all people have no real grounds to say what is better then what....
    Just because I am an absolute SEGA fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaAMD View Post
    Just because I am an absolute SEGA fan?
    You were calling PS5 the best console of all time even before it released.
    DC vs PS2 your nonstop Bias for PS2 better than DC.Xbox and GC on every technical level was also silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leynos View Post
    You were calling PS5 the best console of all time even before it released.
    DC vs PS2 your nonstop Bias for PS2 better than DC.Xbox and GC on every technical level was also silly.
    Honestly, I don't like Sony or Playstation, but I see the good work they are doing and I congratulate them on that. on the other hand I see that there are people who don't like Sony because of the PS1 having defeated the N64, I think this is bullst

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    I'm confused why flops is considered a bad metric on here. It's a very common way of measuring performance across machines, look at any list of the top supercomputers and it will be sorted by flops. Of course it's not the only thing but in general more flops = better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axel View Post
    I'm confused why flops is considered a bad metric on here. It's a very common way of measuring performance across machines, look at any list of the top supercomputers and it will be sorted by flops. Of course it's not the only thing but in general more flops = better.
    It's a metric of potential that doesn't factor in other parts of the console/PC it's on. If you have a slow ass storage drive, you'll be limited by storage bandwidth. If your memory bus is slower, it's going to affect how the GPU runs. This guy explains it a hell of a lot better than I can. It's pretty much like when everyone touted MIPS as a means to measure a CPUs capability, and man did the FX processor ever expose that stupid metric.

    Skip ahead to 11:30, if you just want to get to why he says TF isn't a realistic number.

    Last edited by gamevet; 11-21-2020 at 09:07 PM.
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