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    No Golden Axe III in the top 100... major letdown
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    Beat Em Up- Streets of Rage 2
    Platformer- Sonic 3 and Knuckles
    Run and Gun- Gunstar Heroes
    Adventure- Story of Thor
    Action- Shinobi 3

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    I think it's really cool that most genres are well represented, not just shooters, platformers and sports games the console is known for, but also RPGs and strategy games. One exception is the fighters, but then again, the console doesn't have that many either.
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    Great to see both Micro Machines 2 and Mercs get in the top 100. They don't get half the praise they deserve.

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    Genesis got all the big fighting games of its day. SNES had the advantage of Nintendo completely skipping the 32 bit generation so it got ports SF Alpha 2 and Art of Fighting 2, though its slightly offset by Genesis having Virtua Fighter and Eternal Champions.

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    Interesting to see how certain opinions have shifted. A decade ago Herzog Zwei would have been a major contender, and a few years ago it was still a Top50 choice, yet this time it barely scratches the Top100. Also, no Dune 2 apparently, which a few years ago would have been a sure bet in many selections. Guess RTS games have fallen out of favor in general over the years...

    Still, great to see such a varied selection of games making the overall list. Good to see a few sports games in there as well, considering it's sports library was one of the major selling points of the Genesis, at least in the early days. They don't seem to be able to crack the Top50, but it is still nice to seem them, if only for variety.

    /Edit: Doesn't look like any Mortal Kombat game would be making the ranks as well. I can get behind that, but that would definitely not have been the case 25 years ago!
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    I just upload some pics here, that I need for post #2 (there's a limit of 5 attachments per post).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Drive Bowlsey View Post
    Mercs get in the top 100. They don't get half the praise they deserve.
    Agreed. Mercs is utterly fab on the Mega Drive. It also was my 1st ever Import game from Dream Machines 1/2, Dreamware (now Videogameimports.com) after my old import shop owner did a runner. Dream Machines 2 was best import shop going
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    Wow Sonic the Hedgehog booted from the top 10. Very interested to see the top 10 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RvR View Post
    Wow Sonic the Hedgehog booted from the top 10. Very interested to see the top 10 now.
    Well, what's your prediction for the Top 5 (or Top 10)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seingalt View Post
    Well, what's your prediction for the Top 5 (or Top 10)?
    Based on the 2010 list and the general impression I got from these lists I would say:

    1. sonic 2
    2. sor2
    3. s3&k
    4. revenge of shinobi
    5. Contra
    6. Gunstar
    7. Shinobi 3
    8. PSIV
    9. TF4
    10. Bloodlines

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    Quote Originally Posted by RvR View Post
    Based on the 2010 list and the general impression I got from these lists I would say:

    1. sonic 2
    2. sor2
    3. s3&k
    4. revenge of shinobi
    5. Contra
    6. Gunstar
    7. Shinobi 3
    8. PSIV
    9. TF4
    10. Bloodlines
    You got 3 positions right.

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    My guess:

    1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
    2. Streets of Rage II
    3. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    4. Gunstar Heroes
    5. Thunder Force IV
    6. Phantasy Star IV
    7. Shinobi III
    8. Revenge of Shinobi
    9. Contra: Hard Corps
    10. Castlevania Bloodlines
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    Default Alternative Top 100

    Here is the alternative Top 100 list that doesn’t implement the Reputation multiplier, but instead gives equal weight to every individual list.
    However Rep. Power is still used for the tie-breaking procedure.


    Rank
    Title
    Points
    Tie-Breaking Notes
    Rep-weighted list
    1st
    Streets of Rage 2
    1140
    1st
    (no change)
    2nd
    Sonic 3 & Knuckles
    899
    2nd
    (no change)
    3rd
    Gunstar Heroes
    753
    3rd
    (no change)
    4th
    Sonic 2
    726
    4th
    (no change)
    5th
    Contra: Hard Corps
    645
    5th
    (no change)
    6th
    Shinobi III
    611
    6th
    (no change)
    7th
    Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force
    515
    7th
    (no change)
    8th
    Castlevania Bloodlines / Vampire Killer
    499
    10th
    (up 2)
    9th
    Phantasy Star IV
    468
    8th
    (down 1)
    10th
    Sonic the Hedgehog
    461
    11th
    (up 1)
    11th
    Revenge of Shinobi
    439
    9th
    (down 2)
    12th
    Shining Force II
    398
    14th
    (up 2)
    13th
    Rocket Knight Adventures
    383
    12th
    (down 1)
    14th
    Alien Soldier
    360
    15th
    (up 1)
    15th
    Landstalker
    332
    13th
    (down 2)
    16th
    Monster World IV
    307
    17th
    (up 1)
    17th
    Streets of Rage 3 / Bare Knuckle 3
    297
    21st
    (up 4)
    18th
    Aladdin
    285
    16th
    (down 2)
    19th
    Beyond Oasis / The Story of Thor
    255
    19th
    (no change)
    20th
    Quackshot
    240
    20th
    (no change)
    21st
    Flashback
    233
    18th
    (down 3)
    22nd
    Shadow Dancer
    231
    30th
    (up 8)
    23rd
    MUSHA / Musha Aleste
    223
    23rd
    (no change)
    24th
    Comix Zone
    212
    8 votes 28th
    (up 4)
    25th
    TMNT: The Hyperstone Heist
    212
    7 votes 33rd
    (up 8)
    26th
    Mega Turrican
    211
    22nd
    (down 4)
    27th
    Ristar
    207
    27th
    (no change)
    28th
    Earthworm Jim
    204
    26th
    (down 2)
    29th
    Road Rash II
    200
    25th
    (down 4)
    30th
    Ghouls 'n Ghosts
    199
    24th
    (down 6)
    31st
    ToeJam & Earl
    178
    29th
    (down 2)
    32nd
    Shining Force
    168
    31st
    (down 1)
    33rd
    Dynamite Headdy
    164
    32nd
    (down 1)
    34th
    Streets of Rage
    159
    34th
    (no change)
    35th
    Battle Mania Daiginjou
    157
    6 votes 35th
    (no change)
    36th
    Crusader of Centy / Soleil
    157
    5 votes 39th
    (up 3)
    37th
    Vectorman
    147
    38th
    (up 1)
    38th
    Xeno Crisis
    143
    44th
    (up 6)
    39th
    Yuuyuu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen / Yu Yu Hakusho: Sunset Fighters
    138
    37th
    (down 2)
    40th
    Wonderboy in Monster World
    132
    49th
    (up 9)
    41st
    Dragon's Fury / Devil Crash MD
    129
    52nd
    (up 11)
    42nd
    Golden Axe
    128
    41st
    (down 1)
    43rd
    Golden Axe II
    123
    57th
    (up 14)
    44th
    Ecco the Dolphin
    117
    55th
    (up 11)
    45th
    Adventures of Batman & Robin, The
    115
    4 votes; best rank: 2nd 60th
    (up 15)
    46th
    Castle of Illusion
    115
    4 votes; best rank: 7th 43rd
    (down 3)
    47th
    Light Crusader
    114
    36th
    (down 11)
    48th
    Langrisser II
    111
    4 votes 42nd
    (down 6)
    49th
    Gain Ground
    111
    3 votes 47th
    (down 2)
    50th
    Jungle Strike
    110
    51st
    (up 1)
    51st
    Eliminate Down
    109
    48th
    (down 3)
    52nd
    Super Street Figher II
    108
    45th
    (down 7)
    53rd
    Desert Strike
    104
    59th
    (up 6)
    54th
    Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition
    100
    4 votes; best rank: 6th 65th
    (up 11)
    55th
    World of Illusion
    100
    4 votes; best rank: 10th 46th
    (down 9)
    56th
    Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster's Hidden Treasure
    100
    4 votes; best rank: 11th 69th
    (up 13)
    57th
    Shining in the Darkness
    96
    3 votes; best rank: 4th 40th
    (down 17)
    58th
    Kid Chameleon
    96
    3 votes; best rank: 5th 72nd
    (up 14)
    59th
    Thunder Force III
    90
    56th
    (down 3)
    60th
    Panorama Cotton
    89
    3 votes; best rank: 2nd 62nd
    (up 2)
    61st
    Mega Man - The Wily Wars / Rockman Mega World
    89
    3 votes; best rank: 4th 61th
    (no change)
    62nd
    Ranger X
    88
    74th
    (up 12)
    63rd
    Micro Machines 2: Turbo Tournament
    86
    54th
    (down 9)
    64th
    Marble Madness (Japanese version by Tengen)
    85
    50th
    (down 14)
    65th
    Pulseman
    83
    67th
    (up 2)
    66th
    Sunset Riders
    76
    66th
    (no change)
    67th
    Starflight
    75
    3 votes; best rank: 7th 53rd
    (down 14)
    68th
    Mercs
    75
    3 votes; best rank: 12th 58th
    (down 10)
    69th
    Zombies Ate My Neighbors
    72
    75th
    (up 6)
    70th
    Super Hang-On
    71
    64th
    (down 6)
    71st
    General Chaos
    70
    63rd
    (down 8)
    72nd
    Micro Machines: Turbo Tournament '96
    67
    83rd
    (up 11)
    73rd
    Granada
    63
    70th
    (down 3)
    74th
    NHL 96 / Elitserien 96
    62
    79th
    (up 5)
    75th
    Mega Bomberman
    61
    86th
    (up 11)
    76th
    Fire Shark
    60
    2 votes; best rank: 4th 71st
    (down 5)
    77th
    NHL Hockey / EA Hockey
    60
    2 votes; best rank: 9th 76th
    (down 1)
    78th
    Puyo Puyo Tsuu
    59
    2 votes; best rank: 3rd new
    79th
    Shadowrun
    59
    2 votes; best rank: 5th 88th
    (up 9)
    80th
    Toy Story
    57
    2 votes; best rank: 9th new
    81st
    Sub-Terrania
    57
    2 votes; best rank: 11th 73rd
    (down 8)
    82nd
    PGA Tour Golf III
    56
    2 votes; best rank: 6th 91st
    (up 9)
    83rd
    John Madden Football '92
    56
    2 votes; best rank: 12th new
    84th
    Road Rash
    55
    2 votes; best rank: 5th 90th
    (up 6)
    85th
    NHL 94
    55
    2 votes; best rank: 6th 87th
    (up 2)
    86th
    Alisia Dragoon
    55
    2 votes; best rank: 8th; Rep. Power: 20 89th
    (up 3)
    87th
    Gleylancer
    55
    2 votes; best rank: 8th; Rep. Power: 9 81st
    (down 6)
    88th
    Strider
    54
    68th
    (down 20)
    89th
    Atomic Runner
    52
    2 votes; best rank: 10th (once); Rep. Power: 20 80th
    (down 9)
    90th
    Splatterhouse 3
    52
    2 votes; best rank: 10th (once); Rep. Power: 9 new
    91st
    Rock n' Roll Racing
    52
    2 votes; best rank: 12th 95th
    (up 4)
    92nd
    X-Men 2
    50
    2 votes 85th
    (down 7)
    93rd
    Ghostbusters
    50
    1 vote new
    94th
    Gauntlet IV
    47
    2 votes; best rank: 13th 78th
    (down 16)
    95th
    Herzog Zwei
    47
    2 votes; best rank: 15th 96th
    (up 1)
    96th
    Mortal Kombat II
    47
    2 votes; best rank: 16th new
    97th
    Gaiares
    45
    2 votes; best rank: 17th (once); Rep. Power: 41 84th
    (down 13)
    98th
    Twinkle Tale
    45
    2 votes; best rank: 17th (once); Rep. Power: 13 new
    99th
    Road Rash 3
    44
    77th
    (down 22)
    100th
    Brian Lara Cricket 96
    43
    2 votes; Virtua Racing also received 43 points but only 1 vote new


    The following 8 games from the Rep-weighted list dropped out altogether:
    Greatest Heavyweights
    Super Monaco GP
    Warrior of Rome II
    Jewel Master
    Sensible Soccer: International Edition
    NBA Jam
    Truxton
    Gynoug
    Last edited by Seingalt; 03-08-2021 at 03:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebbe View Post
    My guess:

    1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
    2. Streets of Rage II
    3. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    4. Gunstar Heroes
    5. Thunder Force IV
    6. Phantasy Star IV
    7. Shinobi III
    8. Revenge of Shinobi
    9. Contra: Hard Corps
    10. Castlevania Bloodlines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantar View Post
    Interesting to see how certain opinions have shifted. A decade ago Herzog Zwei would have been a major contender, and a few years ago it was still a Top50 choice, yet this time it barely scratches the Top100. Also, no Dune 2 apparently, which a few years ago would have been a sure bet in many selections. Guess RTS games have fallen out of favor in general over the years...

    Still, great to see such a varied selection of games making the overall list. Good to see a few sports games in there as well, considering it's sports library was one of the major selling points of the Genesis, at least in the early days. They don't seem to be able to crack the Top50, but it is still nice to seem them, if only for variety.

    /Edit: Doesn't look like any Mortal Kombat game would be making the ranks as well. I can get behind that, but that would definitely not have been the case 25 years ago!
    Frankly, I think it is because some games have just aged horribly, Mortal Kombat being one of them. From a technical perspective, it is a terrible game and a terrible 2D fighter. Heck, I don't think Super Street Fighter II or Mega Many The Wily Wars should have made the Top 100 of Genesis games either, considering there are far better versions of both games to be played in 2021. I can't play a better version of Streets of Rage II, but I sure can play a better version of Street Fighter II or any of the first six Mega Man games, even if these two games are decent. I think that can safely apply to some other games on this list, but those were the two biggest examples I noticed. Also, I think RTS is better played on PC for a variety of reasons...who wants to play RTS with a controller in 2021?

    Then again, this is coming from the guy who singlehandedly put NBA Jam in the Top 100 Genesis games. It is unbelievably fun though. But the only game I think is probably missing from a Top 100 list for the pure meme value is Zero Wing.
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