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    So I have a copy of Hyper Duel here and I received it in near mint condition but I've noticed over the years these white "spots/specks" appearing.(Notice the 2 spots about 1/2 inch from inner circle due north). Now I don't know if they were already on the disc because you need to look at it from a certain angle to notice it. The game runs perfectly fine. I do store it in a plastic case and the overall room temperature stays the same: around 23~ degrees celsius.

    edit: there seems to be a white "film" around the edges as well

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    https://i.imgur.com/RHoVSUw.jpg

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    The spots don't wipe off?

    Disc rot usually shows up as pinholes when held up to light.

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    Could just be a production error, I had a music cd by Venom that had similar weird spots. bought it brand new in the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades View Post
    The spots don't wipe off?

    Disc rot usually shows up as pinholes when held up to light.
    Not always though. There are cases where disc rot can manifest as clouding. I think they're pretty rare but they can happen.

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    Forget what I said earlier, I misspoke from poor memory. The pinholes aren't disc rot at all, they're mishandling/manufacturing errors. True disc rot only occurred on a few discs where the seal was manufactured improperly (mostly in the U.K.) and broke soon after. By now, all of those discs are long gone, nor do they look like the OP's image.

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    I found out last year, that most of my HD DVD discs made by Warner are starting to get disc rot, because of the poor glue they used to bond the layers. I haven't confirmed if it has happened to mine, but the general consensus is that it happens to pretty much all of them.
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    I've seen Saturn games with disc rot as pinholes, and I know certain manufactured Laserdiscs are prone to it as well, and many Warner HD DVDs.
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    I recall having a few game discs in a similar state, but I don't fully remember if they had begun to fail to load properly. Definitely motivation to purchase and install a Rhea or similar device, though I have ODEs for PlayStation, Dreamcast, and Gamecube, and have yet to install any of them.
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    Trying to determine if it really is disc rot or not as I'm currently trying to sell it.
    From what I gather it's possibly not disc rot. It's just the result of a weird manufacturing thing. ( I would hope )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades View Post
    The spots don't wipe off?

    Disc rot usually shows up as pinholes when held up to light.
    Even then pinholes aren't really disc rot but top level damage. And that can be caused by numerous things over the years from mishandling and abuse. From what I'm seeing in the pictures it looks like water marks or something on the plastic.

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    Here's a good shot:

    https://i.imgur.com/bQUfCEM.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118 View Post
    Even then pinholes aren't really disc rot but top level damage. And that can be caused by numerous things over the years from mishandling and abuse. From what I'm seeing in the pictures it looks like water marks or something on the plastic.
    Exactly right.

    OP, your photos show a mostly pristine copy of Hyper Duel. You can run an analysis on the disc surface with Nero DiscSpeed if you have a compatible optical drive.

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    It's always really difficult to tell, but it does look like something's either on the plastic or something's happened to the plastic at those points. The marks look to be above the metal layer as they seem to be reflected below the bottom surface of the disc.

    AFAIK certain chemical contaminants can cause polycarbonate to go cloudy, so I wonder if spots of something have got in contact with the disc surface at some point.

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    Why do people frequently assume this to be read-surface damage? If it were, people would be able to buff it away without an issue.
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